TANK TRACKS AS ADD-ON ARMOUR | SU-85 vs Tiger II Turret+Tracks Armour Penetration Simulation

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In WWII it was common to use spare tracks as add-on armour for a tank, but how effective could they really be?
The simulation presents the 85mm BR-365K projectile impacting the Tiger II's side turret with tracks hung from it, from 250m, with the vehicle turned to the side slightly. In a previous video, the same scenario, but without the tracks, resulted in a penetration: • SU-85 vs TIGER II | 85...
The tracks modelled are an approximate geometry of late pattern Kgs 73/800/152 single-link tracks. While massive, the material thickness of most of the links is not particularly high, due to the recesses in the underside. The track material has been modelled as ~180BHN steel, with a relatively high elongation, to represent tough manganese steel commonly used in tank tracks.
Most of the track geometry was based on information from: panzerplace.eu
Amazing thumbnail artwork from: Panaristi www.turbosquid.com/de/3d-mode...

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@SYsimulations Год назад

Here's the same scenario but without the tracks: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r7se7ORRiAU.html&ab_channel=SYSimulations and just to be clear, the tracks only offered this much protection due to them being impacted at their thickest, most solid part (~100mm of non armoured steel). Most of the time they wont offer MUCH protection, but if you have to carry spare links, you might as well put them somewhere useful.

@MaxRavenclaw Год назад

You mean tracks don't offer consistent 20 mm RHAe protection?! Nonsense, WarThunder doesn't lie!

@ColinPaddock Год назад

In this case, it’s the difference between a complete penetration and a non-penetration(though likely with damaging spall). If the Soviet projectile was of a hardness more in line with other combatants, I’d guess the effect would be a lot less pronounced. The round seemed significantly disrupted before it even reached the armor face. In the future, it might be useful to make track links with more tungsten alloy…

@TJ_Low Год назад

Is it possible to simulate how sandbags work as add-on armor? Or concrete?

@Tom_Quixote Год назад

Would be interesting with a third simulation showing what happens if the shell didn't hit the absolutely strongest part of the track, but an "average" spot.

@AdamSmith-kq6ys Год назад

Would the track also have any utility in de-capping APC ammo? As I recall the de-capping plates on USN battleships aren't useful for much more than stripping the cap ... but that is important for the later layers.

@weaponizedautism6589 Год назад

This was a really close call. Probably still an injured commander and gunner from the schrapnel. but thats better then what would have happened if shell made it through the armor like what we saw in the other vid without the added tracks.

@farrel2114 Год назад

Keep in mind this range is at 250 m. It's very hard for T-34 to get into this range without being spotted by the KT first.

@gian.4388 Год назад

@@farrel2114 SU-85* so even harder, unless it was camouflaged perfectly in some forested area

@mmmbrunommm3 Год назад

If you read about the Battle of Ogledow, the T-34s managed to ambush and destroy at least 7 Tiger IIs and captured 4 more. No sane commander would engage them at distance, which doesn't mean they couldn't be taken out. In this encouter, the engagements happened at about 400 meters.

@hjorturerlend Год назад

@@farrel2114 In an open field or desert yes, but engagement distances in real terrain trend towards within 800m.

@WotansCry Год назад

always this wrong opinion about a mere crack sending shrapnel through the hole tank/turret. You people ned to understand finaly that the inside of a tank is cramped because alot of stuff is put on everyx free place. There is not a lot percentage left where you could even see the armor metal from behind. There are radios, Switches, cables, hydraulic hoses, small arms ammo boxes.. All that stuff would eat up the most of the shrapnel ..

@kajetus0688 Год назад

"hit" +20SL +6RP

@ZIONOMANIA Год назад

"The Target hasn't taken any Damage!"

@sushanthkrishna7711 Год назад

"It seems we have missed!"

@Zombine45 Год назад

It should be noted that many tanks like the german tiger 2 had their spare track links stowed in that position from the factory and not as a field modification.

@bornonthebattlefront4883 Год назад

To be fair, at this point in the war, the factories were in the field, so technically it could be considered a field modification anyways, as the entire tank was a field modification

@youlaughyouphill842 11 месяцев назад

@@bornonthebattlefront4883no

@kubanskiloewe 11 месяцев назад

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 lol, you are a fieldmodification 🤣😂

@myvideosetc.8271 10 месяцев назад

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 You simply can't build something as complex and technically advanced as a tiger 2 on the field.

@timofy2641 6 месяцев назад

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 where did you get that from? tanks are always produced in factories and not on the frontlines. You cant just make a tank in the middle of no infrastructure.

@llamallama1509 Год назад

A comparison without the tracks would be nice

@tutel7 Год назад

there is one

@davidi6976 Год назад

There's one already, link in the description

@Hydrazine1000 Год назад

@@davidi6976 @tutel True, but a proper side-by-side replay would be more informative than viewing the two videos separately.

@Salamandra40k Год назад

Theres already one, thats why he made this, lol. New mfs not knowing this channel, swear

@Hydrazine1000 Год назад

@@Salamandra40k But, as I already mentioned, it's a missed opportunity to present those simulations _side-by-side_ rather than having to watch separate videos. Side-by-side is much more informative.

@Stripedbottom Год назад

I have heard it said that during firing tests conducted already during WW2, it was found that track links, sandbags, tools etc. were almost inconsequential in reducing the effectiveness of AP rounds. But, the track links had to be carried somewhere on the tank, so why not put them in a place where they might, just might, make the difference between life and death in some very special case. Logs on the other hand were never meant for this purpose. They might reduce the effectiveness of an anti-tank rifle round somewhat, if even that. They were simply carried on the sides of the tank or SPG because that was usually the most convenient place without being in the way of anything needing attention or maintenance.

@LordEladan 4 месяца назад

The movie Fury showed me that logs are even better than rha, imagine one side of the conflict has used the da vinci tank made of wood, they would be unbeatable D:

@KY-qx9ip Год назад

This reminds me of those APCs which has wooden door and even cardboard stacks hanging on the side in Siege of Marawi. Is it possible to simulate such scenario?

@elliotsmith102 Год назад

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@shouhanyun8203 Год назад

@@elliotsmith102 A fellow tamnk player

@GodofWeird Год назад

Might be, but making the material properties of the wood realistic would probably be difficult.

@dulguunjargal1199 Год назад

@@shouhanyun8203it's Cursed tank simulator right or is there another game?

@panzer.kampfwagen Год назад

@@dulguunjargal1199 it used to be called tanmk (pre alpha i think) and the name stuck around

@Your_Average_American Год назад

I love these videos

@dademack3544 Год назад

The hangers were placed strategically to cover the ammo racks. After a few were cooked off, they went back and added these to give some additional penetration protection.

@Noobixm-GGD 4 месяца назад

Bro the ringing vibrations inside the tank must’ve been crazy after that one 💀

@yoonseongdo3303 Год назад

not to mention it looks COOL

@MaskHysteria Год назад

If possible a side-by-side of with tracks vs/ without tracks would be fantastic. It'd be great to see the difference tracks make.

@user-zr3if3fx5o 10 месяцев назад

this video a bullshit

@HandFromCoffin 4 месяца назад

YES thanks for posting the without the track video with it. I've played WarThunder for years and tracks as armor are part of the game. With the built in simulation it's hard to get this detailed, in WT. I've always wanted to see this simulated, especially on a Tiger 2. Can't believe I just found this as I've watched a bunch of simulated impact videos. is there any way we can make simulations like this at home? Could we share simulation files? That would be interesting.

@afzalsodikin9250 Год назад

Awesome

@MrCantStopTheRobot Год назад

Amazing difference!

@peasant8246 Год назад

From what I've seen, the effectiveness of track links hung on the main armour against following threats is as follows: HESH > HEAT(rotating) > APDS/HVAP > AP/APC > HEAT(non-rotating) > APFSDS.

@SYsimulations Год назад

Would you mind elaborating on the positions of HEAT (rotating) and HEAT (non rotating)? :)

@peasant8246 Год назад

@@SYsimulations Centrifugal forces acting on a rotating jet make it bifurcate/spread faster, ergo, loosing penetration with standoff distance quicker than a non-rotating one. Both HEAT and APFSDS rods penetrate the target in hydrodynamic regime, so they should both be influenced similarly by given properties of the target.

@SYsimulations Год назад

Very fair conclusions then, didn't think about the fact that a spinning one would be affected more by spaced armour but you're right

@azisandwich Год назад

Nice

@tierfuehrer2 Год назад

How do the track links influence the flight path? I remember reading a text, that addon armor from track links leads to normalizaion of the shell. Because the shell tends to turn into the obstacle, like normalisation. This means the softer non armor steel track link helps the shell to get a better penetration angle. Can you test that out with and without track links with an overview of the shell angle with a middle line? For comparision and ... science.

@jonaslavicka2411 Год назад

remember your telescopic APFSDS idea, it would be interesting how it does against ERA, especialy in comparison to normal APFSDS

@aqui1ifer 11 месяцев назад

This also shows one of the minor downsides of track armor: the softer metal changes the angle at which the shell would impact on the proper armor, even if very slightly. You can see the change at 0:29 and the shell “normalizes” before it hits the armor proper. A higher velocity shell like from a 90mm T15 might be aided by the tracks in this case

@anteshell 11 месяцев назад

The shell barely twitches. Certainly does not "normalize", assuming you mean by that that the shell direction turns towards the geometric normal of the armor. You make one fatal error in your comment. You completely ignore inertia. The direction of the kinetic energy from the shell does not change when the shell turn. If the faster shell "normalizes" towards the armor, it would suffer even bigger loss of energy, because it would then be moving sideways instead of axially, enlarging the area of impact, making it less likely to penetrate.

@showdown66 Год назад

Amazing sim, how long to run?

@DarkestVampire92 Год назад

At least in the modern day, the practice of carrying extra track links on the hull itself is more of a measure of trying to be up and running more quickly than actual armor. APFSDS and ATGMs dont really care about a couple centimetres of magnesium alloy, but it can be the difference between thirty minutes of labor to break track and put a new link on, or waiting three hours for a recovery vehicle.

@AlphaBravoCheeseCake Год назад

Sandbags next please as used in Vietnam etc

@ZigaZagu Год назад

You have to know that many of us must be dying for a 1-1 comparison w/ and w/o the tracks

@fen3311 Год назад

I believe the video posted just before this is exactly that.

@vsyokhoroshoy Год назад

Pieces of armor:hi Gunner:halo,you making me turning red

@nightshade4873 Год назад

Could you possibly do a side-ish angle shot on a Churchill Heavy Infantry tank? Any model would Around 20-30 degrees aither left or right from the front, shot hitting just behind of the front return wheel. now if this is possible, could you simulate an APFSDS round from a T-72 hitting on the roof of a building with angled roof, if you've seen that footage of a T-72 tank engaging a camera man in the current conflict, that would be what i mean, i'm kind baffled as to how a large dart was able to bounce like that.

@Joshua_N-A Год назад

Does this also simulate the steel quality they used back then to build the Konigstiger?

@mcbhomis Год назад

Can you do the exact same setup but without the tracks and compare?

@hungryhedgehog4201 Год назад

tbf I doubt the Leopard 2 carries the tracks there because of additional protection and more because it's really convenient to have the tracks easily accessable and the the flat armor is a good spot to put them.

@IceGuadian Год назад

how would multiple 37mm shells from all different angles fare against something heavily armoured? like something like a tiger 2 or patton tank or something more modern i wonder personally

@mostwelcometv7912 Год назад

Good

@aidensheibany203 Год назад

what is the name of the sim you use? can i buy/download it?

@Snailman3516 Год назад

I would imagine it could also act as spaced armor against shaped charges.

@MaxRavenclaw Год назад

Spaced armour and shaped charges don't really work like that. This is a common misconception. The sideskirts on most German vehicles, for example, were meant to stop anti-tank rifle shots, not SC. Increasing the stand off distance like that can even help increase penetration rather than decrease it. Refer to the links in my RU-vid profile/about, I've been in enough discussions on this topic on RU-vid to add one just for this.

@Starfleet8555 Год назад

@@MaxRavenclaw If I remember correctly the Panther's Armored skirts was for the purpose of defending against AT-rifle shots too, right?

@MaxRavenclaw Год назад

@@Starfleet8555 Yes. And its efficiency is why they dropped the Panther II

@kidamogus123 Год назад

Cool

@damarwirawan1348 Год назад

Wow... A su 85 with a 76mm. Thats a good save

@Treblaine Год назад

The only problem is "hmm, this track is in pretty bad shape, better replace it" "And give up our add-on armour??! Not worth the risk" Sometimes its best for things to be only used for their intended use to prevent their supplementary use becoming their overriding use.

@pastabreaker4385 Год назад

I think this is more a case of "I need to carry this anyway, may as well put it somewhere potentially useful". A tank commander knows being mobile is going to keep the crew alive more than a bit of extra track. You also still have the old track you're replacing. No reason it couldn't go back on the turret.

@pan2aja Год назад

Well.. you could replace the spare track link with the broken track links back on the rack instead of just throwing it away

@Kyrenics Год назад

Solution: replace your in-bad-shape track link with your add-on armour track link and just use the in-bad-shape track link as your new add-on armour

@nks406 Год назад

PT-76 AP/APCR rounds against sherman hull? I read that as an expeditionary tank the PT-76 was expected to face WW2 medium tanks.

@Sargewashere Год назад

Most tanks tracks where just morale support, hanging from the side. Next you should try sandbags

@dannygo500 Год назад

What software do you use?

@rhystaylor851 Год назад

It'd be cool to see the add-on concrete armor seen on some Shermans performed

@Gaehhn Год назад

Dejmian XYZ Simulations did that a while ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a4UGc0DQBik.html

@abercrombieblovs2042 Год назад

According to this channel, I think, concrete actually normalizes (forces the shell more perpendicular to the armor) a shell instead of deflecting it. Due to armor being more effective when angled, this meant that concrete usually wasn't a good idea against bigger guns (which the germans had in spades). I suppose against a 37mm it would work just fine, but not against an 88.

@otaviocamanho1135 Год назад

WOuld be cool to see side by side with and without the add on on a situation that it does makes the difference

@joenuts5167 Год назад

Check last video

@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 Год назад

The guy on the opposite side of turret from the hit, and the driver would have probably survived (the former because either his crew mates or gun breech would have absorbed the spall, the latter because the following...) The full penetration without the track link may have resulted in an internal ammo explosion killing all. Ultimately, the added protection from the track is of some significance.

@user-jw9ty5fr5d Год назад

It so effective!

@CJNo-mj9hw 6 месяцев назад

What is the simulator that you use?

@Gxaps Год назад

Can you do APFSDS darts versus balloons?

@dj1NM3 Год назад

I guess the tracks *could* have damaged the tip of the AP shot *just* enough so it fails to penetrate, but it it looks like a very minor/marginal effect. My guess is that the three in the turret were just sprayed with red-hot spalling, perhaps not a "highly emotional event", but certainly an "emotional" one.

@-ragingpotato-937 Год назад

SY put a pinned comment with a video of the exact same shot without the track. It made a world of difference. But as he says, that's the most these tracks were ever going to help.

@dj1NM3 Год назад

@@-ragingpotato-937 The difference between "having a bad day, but being able to kvetch about it later" and being hosed out of the tank by a recovery crew.

@Bojan_Kavedzic Год назад

Soviets tests found out that vulnerability of T-34 front hull to 7.5cm PaK 40 (using PzGr.39 APCBC) was reduced from 900 to 700m when tracks were mounted on front hull armor. Which is why T-34-85 carried spare tracks on the front hull, instead on the sides or rear as previously.

@peasant8246 Год назад

Bojan? Are you the same guy from Tanknet forums? Lol, nice to meet you here of all places.

@Bojan_Kavedzic Год назад

@@peasant8246 Yep :)

@hughzaccharyvelasco1319 Год назад

Hmmmmm the asmr of the tankers

@Crispy_Crisp Год назад

war thunder devs: nah thats a pen and sends 9000 bits of spall into the ammo

@SwissAdmiral Год назад

Can you do the panther vs the M4A3E2 Jumbo's front plate? Ive always wondered if it was very accurate in WT

@Sir_Donn Год назад

same

@generalseal6948 Год назад

Had no clue they put tracks on the sides as armor I always thought of it as a easy access for spare tracks to make maintenance and repairs go by faster

@alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289 Год назад

Probably a bit of both.

@andrehashimoto8056 10 месяцев назад

Tbh given what amount of shit the Tank would be loaded before going into combat, space was a premium, and so was convenience, especially for shit like a Tiger II spare segment of Tracks (Heavy as fuck most likely, no one would want to try getting those fuckers from within the CC of the KT itself, for a field repair). So it's mostly for Practical concerns to the Crew, that it ended becoming such useful life saver at times was a welcome extra.

@su-57stealthfighter73 Год назад

Can you do 18.1' inch gun of Yamato vs belt armor of Iowa ..

@CZ350tuner Год назад

British WW2 range tests proved that track links, placed on top of armour, caused shots impacting at oblique angles approaching the Wallis 72 degree "skate" limit, to dig in and normalise, instead of being deflected. Also 50mm. of Manganese steel track link = +/- 10mm. of RHA

@juannixs1524 Год назад

Can you do A39 Tortoise vs Maus Shell? Come on man

@CheifDG Год назад

Suggestion:Can you make a video about just tracks , like have a 8.8 cm hit a fully modeled track maybe 🤔

@Eric-kn4yn 4 месяца назад

Porsche turret was a steeper angle thats why TCs coupla stuck out meaning thicker and harder to penertrate

@Orinslayer Год назад

I think the real benefit of tracks is that they have all sorts of different thicknesses of armour, thus forcing the shell into a different, less useful trajectory. Of course, they still barely do anything the normal armor doesn't do way better.

@hotlanta35 Год назад

Tracks are legit add in for armor as well as dozer blades

@sapphyrus Год назад

I mean if you're already carrying it and it adds to weight and you don't need to work right after getting hit like optics, why not put it where you'll get hit? Especially at a time where it could make more difference than today.

@Kiwihobbylab2218 5 месяцев назад

The reality is mostly that the tracks acted like shot traps that would often cause the shell to penetrate better

@ricardohumildebrabo Год назад

Would the HE filler "push" that piece of metal in?

@ciuyr2510 Год назад

Confirmed Tracks mega armor. I suggest a tank bristling with tracks every inch, quad-layered.

@SYsimulations Год назад

Go and see some of the shermans the Americans put out during the war... Almost completely clad in tracks

@CossacKING Год назад

Can you simulate a hollow point tank round? Something like a 105mm vs a panther or something of your choice. Have one with and without a ballistics cap for aerodynamics.

@jintsuubest9331 Год назад

Only effect ballistic cap has is changing the velocity at any given distance. You can simply scale the impact velocity using a firing table.

@CossacKING Год назад

@@jintsuubest9331 Makes sense, but I've also realized they help with steep armor angles. So I was hoping to see the results of that

@melvinshydroponics Год назад

What simulator is this?

@ace_x3440 Год назад

"We didn't even scratch them."

@thezig2078 Год назад

Churchill/Sherman with and without spare tracks vs Panzerfaust, i wonder how would it compare against HEAT

@destroyerarmor2846 Год назад

Destroyed. Heat has no respect for metal armor

@kenbb99 Год назад

Excellent content. Patreon ...?

@SYsimulations Год назад

Thanks! No patreon unfortunately but theres a "thanks" button under the video if you wanted to donate :)

@WallyWaldo87 Год назад

i remember when some dude in the comments on another video was like "err tracks do nothing to help" ha, hahaha. Oh how the irony of the mighty have fallen. Would be nice if everyone stopped being know it alls and just watched the damm simulation.

@Rom3_29 Год назад

I’ve seen only Japanese tank using inside asbestos blanket, that prevents shrapnel spread and protects tank crew.

@pavelslama5543 Год назад

Its not face hardened, but its not made out of paper, so its still somehow effective.

@WelcomeToDERPLAND Год назад

Huh, I guess add on tracks actually do help, even if a little- I was always told that add on tracks and other such things usually decreased protection because it helped normalize the shell to be more perpendicular to the armor.

@peasant8246 Год назад

Maybe at higher angles? This is only 40°. It might be that a thin plate at >70° might work better without tracks hanging from it.

@SYsimulations Год назад

I think its far more complex than a simple it will or wont help, seen as the geometry of a track is non uniform. There's a US DTIC report on spaced armour which, iirc, determines that spaced plates can be beneficial as well as detrimental, depending on how large the gap is between them relative to the shells length (a large gap is bad because the shell will be able to normalise when exiting the first). However some tracks lie closer to the armour than others, and hitting the top of a pin/tread (like this video) would have a different effect than hitting the bottom (where it would likely normalise slightly)

@jintsuubest9331 Год назад

@@SYsimulations Isn't the gap size effect by also the nature of the projectile? Or I'm just imagining stuff? For something that break up when exiting the front plate, wouldn't a bigger gap be beneficial as material are now spread across a larger surface, while for something that stay intact it would be worse? Think AP vs APC?

@Rudeljaeger Год назад

@@SYsimulations There is also a difference between shells and shaped charges. Germans discovered that Panzerfaust plasma streams worked better when Americans put sandbacks on their armor. The sandbacks guided the charge at a lesser angle towards the armor. With traditonal tank shells this "guiding effect" was minimal.

@JeffBilkins Год назад

Would be fun to do the same simulation without the track and see the difference.

@rippervtol9516 Год назад

Was done last week, SU-85 vs TIGER II | 85mm BR-365K vs Tiger II Side Turret | Armour Piercing Simulation

@VIONICK08 Год назад

facepalm

@yasseralwash7127 Год назад

The guy who invented this method rn: they called me a mad man

@nuclearfrog306 Год назад

even if the crew survived, they are not having a good day. a perforation like that can kill, incapacitate, or at the very least stun the whole crew

@95keat Год назад

I remember when I recommended this the main conclusion at the time was it wouldn't make a difference because it's not armor hardened steel.

@SYsimulations Год назад

Yeah it only made this much of a difference because it's hitting the thickest part with ~100mm unarmoured steel

@user-ry7qo4gx2d Год назад

Whta would happen if we made an APFSDS spin like AP rounds ? And in a game every 7،62 machinegun can go through 13mm only . Is that true ?

@peasant8246 Год назад

Unfortunately, yes. People have been trying for long to create a 7,62mm MG that can go through 12 or even 11mm of armour, but no luck so far. :D

@SYsimulations Год назад

Most Apfsds rounds do spin slowly but if they spun at the speed of normal AP rounds then they would decelerate faster, with no benefits to stabilisation. (Spin stabilisation only works below a L/D ratio of ~7)

@ThreeEyedFish Год назад

I've heard this myth that have softer "add on armor" (tracks, sandbags, etc) could actually normalize the projectile into a better angle. Is there any validity to this?

@Rudeljaeger Год назад

Yes, but not shells. However it helped shaped charges from Panzerfaust to project their plasma streams at a better angle.

@AsthmaQueen Год назад

Do you think you could test tracks on a angled surface that acpr doesn't penetrate/bounces off? I've wondered if it actually would help the apcr not ricochet.

@r3drumg33k3 Год назад

I wonder how used work hardend tracks would fair vs new "softer" ones. Would probably be non noticable.

@dancing_odie Год назад

That plug is just trying so hard to get in

@notazombie...notatall8577 4 месяца назад

Commanders: don't use tracks as armor! Tank crews 🤫

@jmq1984 Год назад

Can you simulate AA fire against combat drones or for example an A-10?

@alanhelton Год назад

Really should have presented both track armor and non to see the difference.

@gun_master1 Год назад

Tiger II H (Sla.16) mains know this one simple trick! 💀

@Ima184mm 11 месяцев назад

Actually Track and Wheel is very good Armour especially VS HEAT

@Teedo_ Год назад

Wow really cool that those tracks make the difference. I'm telling ya those germans were onto something.

@SYsimulations Год назад

Most nations did this to some degree, especially the British and Americans on shermans and Churchill's

@TinyBlitz8 Год назад

Like chainmail attached to a plate mail.

@bighobo7745 Год назад

Hear me out here.. what if we used TWO layers of track? That will surely make the difference!

@PalestineHomunculi Год назад

Bolting random shit on can't hurt, can it?

@skdKitsune Год назад

Dayum, 250m, that's extreme close quarters even for WW2. Would love to see a shot from the King Tiger against the SU85 UFP with tracks at 1500m :)

@mahjonglover3614 Год назад

It's not gonna survive that

@MrSolPow Год назад

And without? Oh. I see.

@rogercude1459 Год назад

If you believe those tracks were put there for Protection then you should be asking yourself why didn't they use more an cover the turret sides! The Answer is they weren't used for protection..

@Blue_Machine Год назад

Buff: Armor +5%

@johjoh978 Год назад

works well enough, but god help the poor people standing on the engine deck

@justinkedgetor5949 Год назад

Better than nothing. Even if it did nothing, it helped crew morale so they could perform better

@mnguy98 Год назад

Yeah sure, the tracks might've stopped the shell from punching through... but if I were the Tiger crewman, I would still be wanting a fresh pair of pants if I saw that bulge in the armor

@jfrorn Год назад

I bet it would pen if it didn't hit the pin... Im sure the spall would be nasty nevertheless

@AevisPrime Год назад

What about a 20mm ball bearing hitting the front plate of an abrams at Mach 3

@iforgor-xf1wd Год назад

+25 light armor

@taylorbrain8023 Год назад

The reality is less additional armor and more a way to reasonable store extra track links. Some people don’t understand just how important having those extra track links around can be to keep your vehicle functional. And there’s only so many places to store those links. So in the case of tiger ausf e and tiger ausf b those tracks being on the side of the turret are simply because there’s nowhere else to store spare tracks links and any additional armor they may provide is an added bonus. This doesn’t go for all tanks but this one specifically.