Targeted by the Stasi: revisiting the past | DW Documentary 

I was in 1989 in East Berlin and it even scared me as a westerner to see how tight security was. I was glad when I was back in the West later that day.

That elevator is terrifying.

The Stasi was much smarter than the Gestapo! Early on the East German authorities looked at the Gestapo, and realized that the Gestapo were way too violent to be effective in the long-term. The East German government realized that if the Stasi was excessively violent like the Gestapo, then eventually people will rise up against you for being excessively violent. So in truth the Stasi rarely resorted to outright physical violence, especially compared to the Gestapo. The Stasi realized that psychological warfare against “enemies of the state” was often much more effective than physical aggression. So the Stasi often psychologically threatened enemies of the state by threatening to ruin their life, and ruin the lives of their friends and family for insubordination to the state. Psychological warfare was extremely effective in bringing about obedience to the state in East Germany!

Very brave and inspiring ladies, thank you for sharing your story.

I love the way DW makes its documentaries. This is my most favorite RU-vid channel followed by Mark Felton.

Two incredibly brave and handsome people. Their resilience in the face of such oppression and cruelty is truly inspiring. Bless them both.

Guy gets called in to the NKVD office in Leningrad. In the interview he's confident all is Ok since he's not political and tells the officer he can't be considered a problem. He's informed that the mere fact he's sitting there means he's guilty and the officer points to the people outside walking on the sidewalks and says "They are the ones under suspicion". We're not that far away from that.

Stasi lives in our phones now

The Stasi were truly the Gestapo Mk II.

It's incredible how these women have no specific memories but they're bodies remember and reacts so intensely.

Reminds me of the movie "The Lives of Others," one of my all-time favorite movies.

I have a piece of the Berlin wall. My uncle was there when it got torn down and he brought back 2 large chunks (about the size of a dinner plate) one for me and one for my cousin.

The report does not say when they left. I assume they left through the Friedrichstrasse train station in East Berlin. The guards there were considered exceptionally rude and unpleasant. A followup report would be nice about their experiences in the station and their first impressions of the West.

1973, 1976 When I was 19, I visited E. Berlin two times in 1973/1974, and then again in 1976. I was only on the other side of the wall for a few hours on those occasions. It was a real "wake-up call" for me to see what it is like to have your freedom taken from you. Life in E. Berlin looked so bland and lifeless when I was there. It is sickening to see the evil that people and governments can do to innocent people. I lived and worked in W. Germany in 1973/74, and learned a lot about the German people - the good and the bad. It is easy to look at a country and its people and say, how could they do those things - the Nazi era, the Stasi era. The sad reality is that many countries and their people have done and continue to do the same or similar evils. John - northern California.

In 2011, shortly after the outburst of rioting in London, I was sitting with some friends outside a Starbucks in Hampstead discussing the behaviour of the police. An elderly German man joined in our conversation ... he identified himself as having been a senior officer in the Stasi (who had retired sometime prior to the collapse of the Communist East German Government). The theme of his conversation was that, in many ways, the British police (and the police of other Western countries) had been given powers somewhat similar to those he had when he was a serving officer in the Stasi. Like the Stasi the British police now have the power to arrest people "on suspicion", handcuff them, take them to a police station and lock them in a cell for hours before they are questioned. Present-day journalists, when they refer to serious crimes (like murders) committed in the UK before the police had these powers often claim that the police had "arrested" numerous people (in one case well over a hundred) but were unable to bring anyone to trial. The police didn't "arrest" anyone ... they questioned many people ...invited a small number of them to come to the police station to "help with enquiries" ... those the police suspected had the right to refuse. Back in the 60s British people were warned about the Spanish police in Franco's time ... who had the power to arrest people "on suspicion" . In the event of somebody being arrested by the UK police ... but later released after the police established their innocence and before they'd been taken before a magistrate.. they then had the right to demand to go before a magistrate and be publically declared to be innocent. Some people might think its OK for our police to have these powers ...because it helps them to catch criminals ... until they find themselves locked in a cell for hours suspected of a crime they know little or nothing about. Even elderly people not infrequently find themselves in such situations ... as a 75 year old friend of mine did when a neighbour accused her a trivial offence she knew nothing about. The police locked her up in a cell for 6 hours ... the reason the police acted this way was because she had a "mental health problem" (depression).

Organized Stalking

Excellent documentary

Great video, im very thankful. All the best for those two beautiful and brave women!

The stasi officers should be tracked down and asked how they feel about what they did. Any remorse?

STASI was the most successful intel service ever existed they literally had full case for every one in the country and that was before the social media and cameras.

7:17 that's the longest tram I've ever seen.

Pity the names of these Stasi agents were made public. I imagine they never faced court for what they did.

yes i know how they feel, strange thing is i live in modern day UK

In the end these two beautiful women can smile freely and enjoy a serene life while each and every Stasi member and the toxic people like them painfully decompose both emotionally and spiritually. Maybe the one's who CAN live with themselves aren't human to begin with.

The elevators in the museum are too dangerous.

Who's here after hearing that EA hired a former member of Stasi?

During the Iron Curtain there was KGB, Stasi, CIA, FBI, NSG etc. Now it is people themselves sharing via Facebook, Instagram and other social media. Reminds me of Captain America Winter Soldier dialogue of Dr Arnim Zola - “HYDRA was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom. What we did not realize was that if you tried to take that freedom, they resist. The war taught us much. Humanity needed to surrender its freedom willingly.”

And in 2020 - here we are again!

read the aclu paper EVEN BIGGER, EVEN WEAKER: THE EMERGING SURVEILLANCE SOCIETY: WHERE ARE WE NOW? Pray you dont become a target of surveillance in the USSA.

It is important to have a secret garden.

Thanks

This is nothing compared to today's mobile and internet surveillance.

Nothing change just name it's different

it happens all the time. I live in Warsaw and I am also observed 24h. A lot like in gangstalking program described by Bryan Tew. Street theatre, conversational scenarios etc.

Not even Nazi Germany was like this.

Did the Stasi have access to any Gestapo files ? Just curious ....

This still goes on like before, in the " free" West also. We found out because of Edward Snowdon.

Did IBM help them too?

Ja doch. Get a feeling what it is like for Americans living under Google in America today. Google hires former Stasi as advisers. 😒

As always they they they left so many documents as to their crimes

Husbands and wife's and niebour would spy on each other

The Stasi only got smarter than the Gestapo in the 1960s. Then they realized that psychlogical terror against opponents and everyone who showed any signs of independent thinking was more effective than mere physical terror. In the 1970s and 1980s they also had to take into account that they urgently needed the West German and generally Western currencies so they tried not to arouse too much criticism for their physical methods of suppression that had been leaked out to the West. In the 1950s and the beginning of the 1960s the Stasi often used brutal physical methods of suppression and terror against opponents in the GDR. Then they also often kidnapped critics of the SED regime living in West Germany to East Germany..

no difference today but now it is digital via mobiles and computers and monitoring systems. 5g will be expanded

It is incomprehensible for people who haven't lived in that! The East Germans had a West Berlin to find refuge in but the rest of the Soviet Bloc countries didn't - Europe didn't any of us so they only escape was the US, 3000 miles away and the great unknown! The Stasi or any other country's fear was if you spoke about escaping - nobody but the fat pigs in the govt/Communist Party had passports and without them no country would let anyone in. State security was about making sure you understood you couldn't get out to especially speak out against the govt - if people were lalowed they would have to figure out which country would accept them and their native country would remain empty (figuratively). My family fled when I was 16 and I never had to earn my living there but I remember my dad losing his job because his sister decided to defect through Vienna and he was a ship captain - what does someone with such a job do? Angela Merkel was a political govt official in the old East Germany, and that's what she wants to have again. We were told to make friends in the US we'd have to use drugs! So they didn't leave...what a shame, all they went through!

*They should consider themselves lucky they weren't around like the other women during the fall of Berlin.*

I made this channel to show that this is still going on

God bless those tireless Stasi officers for standing up to these evil subversive citizens

so the two women lived together? oh I see.. so that's how it was...

The big difference between the Stasi and todays LEO's(🐷) is that stasi didnt have computers with near infinite storage capacity. Social media makes the pigs jobs easier.

the lady wanted out but the she was folded into the church to keep her stuck anyway... never join the church

“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes.” - Mark Twain The U.S. COINTELPRO gets its tactics from the East German Stassi.

Infragard, cointelpro 2.0

Their still at it today 🫣🫡

Google, Stasi, difference?

There're so many governments that watch their citizens closely. North Korea and China come to mind. China is one of the most surveilled countries in the world, I believe they have over 200 million cameras watching everything you do. In the West is not the government the one spying on you, but private businesses through your apps. They know where you are at all times, where you go, what you eat, what you shop, what you're thinking of buying, etc... if it was the government doing that we would be outraged.

Same stuff is going on in the United States. Present day.

Both were very pretty when they were young ladies.

A Bernie sticker on a door in a GDR-friendly socialist newspaper.

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A lot about present gangstalking is on the account GodIsOurProtector. I have a lot of these things happening to me every day

They're so sweet.

Read g Stasiland atm

Thank god for gobachev otherwise the wall might still be there

These people were living in a society where they were subjected to psychological terror.

And now a new STASI is being establish in Germany. I wonder who they were.....

I thought these two ladies were married until the last 2 minutes!

Visit Nepal 2020. "Lets experience heaven " . Someone will amaze with my comment but When you visit Nepal you know why this the case.

Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck The Lives of Others.

Damn....Democrats were known by so many names....Stasi...Gestapo...

Did you ever think of adding subtitles instead of dubbing? and if you dub, can you AT LEAST dub what they actually say and then remove the official voices. this is unwatchable, unfortunately, because the topic is very interesting.

we were born in The STaTe of AusTria which donT belong To Germany we have no such poliTic system

STASI made the GESTAPO and the KGB look like a bunch of pikers.

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Why these documentaries never mention the Russians?

If you were on top of society you would realize that these steps are vital for maintaining your power and the stability of your ideas. Parents do it all the time in the name of everything

You are still being spied on ..

THE STASI I KNEW WERE A GREAT BUNCH GUYS AND GALS.

I do hope these women, on principle, oppose the tyrannical jab mandates.

Stasi appeared to be a truly evil organisation.

Now the EU and the western World Like DDR

a TV narrator with a speech impediment ( lisp).. great

You had good jobs. Treated well, but because you weren’t allowed to travel, only to approved places, so you apply to leave and are denied then you decide to write a letter to the General Secretary who is the head of state that you don’t approve of his policies…and afterwards what? What did you expect was gonna happen? Today, if you were to write a letter to the US president, saying you think his policies are unacceptable…you don’t think you would be put on a Secret Service list of people who might be considered a security risk? If you don’t think you would be I have a bridge for sale that I’d like to sell you.

I watched thinking I cannot feel empathy for those two as Germans did far worse to others during WWII. And although these two were certainly innocent of crimes of their ancestors Nazi victims also were innocent people. I grew up in Poland and studied its history and I’m younger than these two but to me German means mortal enemy never to be trusted. I know German people and I always wonder were their grandfathers in SS ? Did they kill Poles. I always think about that. I don’t hate them but to me that’s all they are -not to be trusted.

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AOC is making a 'list' too...

Surveillance is very vital if you are organizing a society . Surveillance is necessary. You must know and be able to anticipate things ahead of time and to keep society stable we need control over the population

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The narrator has a speech-impediment, i think.

American college professors would tell these two they were living in paradise. Democrat party can't wait for the workers paradise.

The stasi are alive and unwell all around you.