@Ad Lockhorst Different style. Floor alone is already different styles. Did you listen her project album Northward ? It's almost as if it was another singer...
There friendship is genuinely so cute. Them smiling at eachother, floor pointing at tarja wanting to crowd to cheer for her, them whispering to eachother onstage overall you can tell how much fun they’re having and how much they support eachother it’s so wholesome
For those who wonder... Both are friends since the After Forever days, when Floor was invited to be part of Nightwish, the first thing she done was call Tarja and tell everything about it, because Floor wanted to know how would she feel about it, Tarja only said that it has been such a long time since her departure and everything was ok, that Floor should accept and follow her heart to never let the music industry change her. This rivalry is a fanfic from Tuomas Fanboy's. This was told by Tarja herself during an interview by the way.
They quite often talk to each other . Since floor had her daughter, taraja has been sharing her experiences of touring with a child..... this is so cool...
Thanks, I was just wondering if Floor asked her before making any decisions! They look so close and this was so soon after Floor hopping aboard Nightwish :)
Well, I'm a Toumas fanboy and never even heard about such rivalry. Though it's true that I'm not really active in the community, I just enjoy the music and avoid the drama. But finding out they are friends warms my heart.
Personally I love all of the lead singers from Nightwish. For me it is simply a matter of flavors. These 2 singing together on the same stage is like getting 2 of my favorite ice cream flavors on the same cone.
The Elven Queen and the Amazonian Warrior have found harmony, and it's so beautiful I'm in tears. Real queens adjust each others crowns (and microphones)
As someone who's worked sound, I love the fight in the start where Floor is asking for her Mic to get turned down, and Tarja is asking for Floor's mic to get turned up. It's so classy, and I feel like this song almost serves as a passing of the torch from Tarja to Floor. Yes, Floor has a different style than Tarja, but the to of them are amazing vocalists who are both amazingly skilled.
well they have been friends for a very long time and I love that Floor is liek a big sister to her in here , I have even heard taht when Floor was given a choice to replayce Anette in the NW then she called Tarja to ask id its oaky....that alone shows how good friends they mustbe, and their chemistry on stage is also amazing
@@MrKeserian I think it shows more about respect, friendship. They both can be appreciated for their very different qualities instead of the rivalry created by NW fans, they're so different, no reason to be arguing about who is better. I only wich fans would follow the example.
@@reapin469 Nothing wrong with that mate. Floor is a fantastic vocalist but music is a very subjective thing so even though I recognize Floor's vocal talents her version of the band just doesn't resonate with me as much as Anette's era. I didn't like the last album very much so maybe that's got something to do with it as well.
Gotta love how happy Tarja looks during this performance. You can tell she couldn't care less about past bullshit with Nightwish anymore, or that Floor is with them now. She is there having fun and singing her heart out with her old friend. How can you not love these two.
^THIS!!!! You can't pull a video of nightwish up on RU-vid that the comments section has dissolved into a who's better slugfest. It's really pointless because it's obvious to anyone who cares to pay attention that the two people currently at the center of that bs aren't holding grudges or in competition with one another. Floor and Tarja are friends. They have been friends for a very long time and are STILL friends. And if you care to pay any attention at all you'd know that Tarja and Annette have said very complementary things about one another in the last couple of years. It's idiot fans who keep fanning the flames of a fight that never even existed. -. -
+Nerdanel Ea I am not fighting between the two I am just sad that nightwish didn't stick with a style that I happened to like more. Certainly I hope they don't hate each other.
A note to those who are talking about how they point to their mics. Doing so is not to indicate they want their voice down in the house sound. It's to indicate their voice is too loud in the monitor mix. If that happens, they can't hear the instruments and won't be on key (or, can't hear the other singers if they want to harmonize). It's a typical signal. When Tarja points to her mic and then Floor, she's saying, "I can't hear Floor well enough in the monitor mix to harmonize, turn her up." It has nothing to do with them being humble towards each other and instead, everything to do with the craft of singing. (That they are friends and are thoroughly enjoying singing with each other is evident from the very beginning, but this isn't that).
@Jack Actually, both have in ear monitors which you can see around 6:10 - however, they have singer specific mix to their in-ears (singers hear totally different mix than the audience) and the hand signals are used to request changes to the mix. Some lesser singers may even have tricks where the stage mixer listens to audio and even modifies the sound that the singer hears about herself to help her to tune a bit lower or higher if keeping correct pitch is hard. Of course, both Tarja and Floor are skilled enough not to require such hacks but they still need to hear each other with suitable volume to be able to sing well together.
The engineer obviously over did it when Flor asked to be turned up the first time since she had to ask twice for it to go down. I would to run sound for either of them.
Very true, especially because if you're singing yourself, on a stage no less, you don't really have that good of a picture of how loud your mic is compared to the rest of the band (as in what the fans actually hear)
They show so big friendship here. Along with what already was said about how happy they look together, I noticed something else - both of them are trying make the other appearance better. First Floor gestured two times to lower her mic volume down, later Tarja asked the staff to bring the sound of Floor's mic up. This is called ethic and collegiality. They are just great!
That's just for their monitoring, performers can't hear what's going on offstage. That's why there's usually a front of house engineer and a monitor engineer.
LOL they can’t decide the volumes of what the crowd will listen to. They are asking the stage mixer guy to bring the monitor volume for their mic up or down, which is something that singers do sometimes, since for certain songs the monitor needs to be adjusted.
My first time seeing Tarja and Floor together. I thought there was a rivalry, but I didn't know they were good friends. This changes everything. She was probably happy to see Floor pick up her mantle in Nightwish. Awesome and them some.
Sha Mart Tarja is former Queen of Nightwish... I'm sorry, but the reign of Tarja has ended a long time ago. And, it's very shameful that she lost it to Anette. Ha5x...
Greg S.B. Yes and no. I must say I think DPP and Imaginaerum are Nightwish's best albums so far, including the vocal work by Anette. But that's the albums. That's a lot of production work. When you watch Anette live though, it's a complete failure. Tarja had the vocal power to reproduce the quality of her album vocals on stage, but Anette doesn't even come close to what she sounds like on the albums.
ArumesYT Yes it is... That's Anette weakness... Maybe, because many Tarjaholics always bullying her on the stage from the first time, she didn't have any confident at the time singing in stage, and of course it ruined her performance... Anyway, this Anette era have already gone and now Nightwish have an experienced versatile singer that can sing in any styles, have a great performance in the stage. And from her works outside NW we knew that her vocal quality in the stage is as good as in the albums...
1:40 Floor, out of respect for Tarja, demands that her microphone volume be lowered. 2:48 Tarja notices this and asks Floor's microphone to be turned on. Here are the best artists in the world. you both are great. 🤩
Yes. When they look to the side,point to themselves or the other person, then indicate up or down, it's for the monitor engineer. Rarely ever worked in a venue big enough for a separate monitor console. Most of the time I ran monitors from FOH.
This is just the best thing ever. They sound phenomenal together --- and Floor is the best Comedy Straight Man for Tarja's Drunken Elk Dancing. I just want them to tour together!
nice to meet you too Katharina!! hehe sorry is that i dont meet other gotics as me and i feel so lonely sometimes haha i want have friends gotic and thanks for talk to me and sorry my english because i am from spain haha and where are you from?
Great performance, but them just singing together and being so happy and friendly is what makes me happy. Not that I ever thought they hated each other or anything, but I never thought they would be like this together either.
Floor tiene mucho talento. El concierto de Wacken 2013 te encantará. A mí me ocurrió al revés. Conocí a Nightwish a través de Floor, y aprecio mucho el estilo inconfundible de Tarja.
Both of them are awesome vocalists and are equally respected professionally. Why hate any of them when they have both contributed successfully to their band, Nightwish! Just enjoy.
I UNDERSTAND YOU BRO!!!! HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIIIIIT!! E eu não sei o motivo de eu estar falando em inglês quando você é aparentemente brasileiro uhaeuahuae
It is funny how Floor asks the tech to lower her mic volume, so her's is not louder than Tarja's. But then Tarja asks the tech to rise Floor's mic volume at the 2nd chorus (2:46). Such wonderful ladies!!! thumbs up for them!
Luis Alfredo Valencia the performers do not decide volumes of what the crowd is listening to, they are just asking to the stage mixer guy to adjust the monitor volume...
"Nooooooo! You can't just have two Nightwish singers cooperating to put on a great show instead of feeding into my competition fantasy!" "Haha, awesome vocals go brrr"
Now, this will obviously never happen, but imagine if Tuomas and the rest sat down and composed a masterpiece meant to be performed by all three NW ladies, both drummers, and the rest of the current band. At the same time.
@@StergiosMekras Marko returns to Nightwish after his several month hiatus and at his first concert, Tuomas announces that they had to do something special to celebrate this return by "celebrating Nightwish in all its forms most beautiful": Cue the former band members joining them on stage to perform a newly written song...
My favorite Nightwish song sung by not one but two of their singers, both of whom are insanely talented. This is so much fun to watch & listen to. Cheers ! !
Tarja Turunen é profissional demais! Ela entra e sai em qualquer lugar Vários músicos e artistas querem gravar com ela Vários artistas deixam ela gravar cover de suas músicas A mulher é respeitada demais! ❤️
Floor Jansen realmente tocou em e com muitas grandes bandas líderes mundiais, em metal sinfônico: After Forever, Ayreon, Star One, Nightwish, Epica, Avantasia, Northwards, Ever Grey, Sabaton, etc. etc.
The fronladies (or better say the ex-frontladies) of two of the most influential bands in symphometal - Nightwish and After Forever sang this song for you... So, please stop argue who is better. Both deserve massive respect.
You are totally right! They are both beautiful and talented singers and they both rock! I love them both! At first it took me a few to accept Floor because I was used to Tarja when I discovered this band and I felt weird but after watching Floor perform it worked for me and I loved it. Just another chapter in the band but I still appreciate them both and love the band regardless. Glad to see these two pretty ladies on the same stage. : ))
The Founder and the Defender, the tip of the sword that carved the passion for symphonic metal into our hearts and the torch that keeps the mark lit and aching for more. What an AMAZING scene to behold
I don't give a crap about Tarja's outfit or the fact that it was or not a spontaneous duet or the fact that they are or not friends or the fact that their voices matched completely or not... I'M JUST FUCKING HAPPY THAT ELDEST AND NEWEST NW SINGERS ARE SINGING TOGETHER...
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Tarja doesn't care about Nightwish anymore and has a very successful solo career. Why don't we get over that. Floor is now Nightwish's singer and she's a good choice. Get over it finally.
Yup it's very obvious. Those two women don't have the slightest Problem with each other. Unfortunately it's Tuomas who is very bad in communicating with his members. He's a musical mastermind but lacks communication skills.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Well, that's your choice and Tarja will never return to Nightwish. Sure, Floor is different but I like her and her voice. Annette never really fitted in the band. She had a beautiful voice but she's simply no "badass" like Tarja or Floor.
I think it's good that they're friends and not rivals because Floor is now the singer of Tarja's old band. Music is all about bringing people together and you can see that very good with this performance! :)
I love how they're both stiff metal goddesses on stage when alone, but when they're together, they're dancing and bouncing all over the place like besties xD I love 'em both lol
Floor is a worthy fsuccessor of Tarja, no one can replace her because she shaped Nightwish and stands for this typical Nightwish-sound, but Floor is impressive, funny and a good singer, I really like that she's with Nightwish now =) At least they again have someone who can sing and rocks =) And I love this, seeing them together... Even though Tarja looks tiny, despite those heels :D
Mme.Tenebrae I agree, this is amazing, the two sound great, together, alone, always. I loved how Floor asked her voice sound to be lower and Tarja asked for Floor's voice to get higher as it was before, when she noticed it. min 6.28 to 6.42 - this is so important
+Mme.Tenebrae Everyone looks tiny next to Floor :) She's Nightwish's Amazon goddess now :) This is epic, and I would love to see them do stuff together again. They're having a blast here. That being said, Floor isn't trying to replace Tarja. She brings in her own style and sings the songs her way. She doesn't just sound like someone covering them. She's their singer now, and Tuomas is blessed he has such an amazing toolkit to work with now.
fullstack2 she did OK, but she has no power at all. Listening to floor sing songs from Imaginareum, it really shows how much the music overpowered Anette
Agreed Floor is amazing. She is perfect for NW. From what I heard Anette was rushed into some big shoes to fill and was not ready for toll of touring and hitting those notes.
I like that there is genuine friendship and respect between the two. Under a minute in, Floor tells the tech to turn her mic down so that Tarja would be louder. Half a minute later, Tarja tells the tech to raise Floor's mic so they're equal. Just a nuance that I noticed.
If you checked the comments before posting, you would've seen several posts like yours being corrected. They don't control the sound for the audience. They asking the engineers to adjust the volume/mix on their in-ear monitor.
creo que estan toidos un poquito fanatisados y eso es totalmente comprensible las dos son soprano y tienen tecnica una es un poco mas tecnica y la otra es un poco mas viceral pero no puede haber dudas de que las dos son EXELENTES hay que ser agradecido con las dos por brindarnos grabaciones y shows en vivo impresionantes que perduraran en nuestra memoria hasta el dia que nos vallamos de este mundo.
I would LOVE to see Nightwish performing live with Tarja AND Floor on the same stage. Both are so awesome in their own way and together they absolutely rock! Two so powerful voices with the powerful Nightwish sound and in addition Marcos genius voice!
What I love about this is there are no issues between them. I'm sure they are aware of the "who's better" comparisons but that's everyone else's issue, not theirs. Two fantastic singers!
Almost 10 years ago Tarja left and while pseudo-Nightwish fans keep complaining about it and criticising everyone (even Floor), both they have fun singing together. Please, just get over it!
I love Tarja. She is in a beautiful moment of her career. She is Floor's friend, they're beautiful togheter. We all have to stop critising everyone and love them. Both are great and beautiful singers. And the most important of all, they're friends. "We have to keep the love going". I love both of them♥
I like Anettes voice a lot, she is not as strong a vocalist as Floor and Tarja are but she is by no means bad. And Dark Passion Play and Imaginaerum are two amazing album. I think Nightwish is better off with Floor as their vocalist but I don't understand all the hate directed at Anette.
I love Tarja, I love Floor & I most certainly love Anette xxx Wonderful to see the first lady of Nightwish & the present lady of Nightwish, singing together as one :)
Two very different ladies, in both background, vocal use and everything close to that. But they're so beautiful together in both their singing and personalities! I'd love to see Tarja up close now, since I've met Floor a short while ago. I hope to see any epic duets like they did in the future!
This is probably the best video out there. My favorite one from Nightwish (well, not really from them, but you get it). There is so much respect and friendship and professionalism in these 7 minutes, that I cannot express into simple words! These ladies are amazing! True Goddesses! Lovely souls! I absolutely love this!!!
I wonder why nobody has recorded yet an album featuring Tarja, Floor, Simone, Sharon, Liv, Vibeke. It would be a milestone in the female-fronted metal history.
You know what I'd love? If the members of Nightwish were able to come to an understanding with Tarja and do a tour with her as a being duet vocals with Floor! I know there's a lot of bad blood there, so this is probably the closest we'll get, but could you imagine The Greatest Show on Earth with them both??
From what I read in a recent interview, Tuomas and Tarja are back in touch, even though only through email right now. He said that, when his father passed away several months ago, Tarja sent him a very kind and heartfelt email expressing her condolences and having a bit of a catch up. He also said that he sincerely apologized to her for how her departure from Nightwish was handled and he should have acted much differently, but it was ultimately the best decision for everyone. Tarja herself has said that, while she forgave Tuomas long ago, he hurt her deeply enough that they can never recover the friendship they had.
Tarja has said that she would be in for a reunion concert, but only if the then members did a public apology for the open letter firing. Considering only two of the members from once are part of the band now(jukka is on indefinite hiatus for health reasons and marco pretty much retired from everything), this is unlikely to happen. At least she is in good terms with Tuomas.
I think someone got an earful after this. Floor had to ask them to turn her mic up a little when she was solo singing, then had to ask them to turn her mic down twice, then Tarja asked for Floor's mic to be turned back up. Near the end Tarja shot a ima kill you look offstage for a moment. For those that don't understand the reason why it could turn into a big problem. Both of them have earphones in so they can hear the rest of the band and themselves. If they can't hear themselves they can get off pitch, if they can't hear anything else but themselves they can get ahead of the rest of the band. Esp a problem when using backtracking or doing duets
+Sabiths Pain I am by no means an expert on this subject, but couldn't they wear two earpieces, with only their own voice coming through one, and only the rest of the band in the other. I'd imagine it would be a lot easier to separate the two in your head if you're hearing them through different ears.
La era de Tarja es insuperable. Impuso un estilo vocal que hasta ahora sigue y que gracias a esto han surgido muchas bandas con mujeres al frente de ellas.
Tarja dio más para formar bandas floor ni la superó ahora sin marco vamos a ver la verdad si es para seguir a no yo sigo escuchando a tarja nunca pero nunca no a floor y la otra flaca que estaba antes
This is the closest we'll ever get to a special concert with the three Nightwish singers :( still glad to see floor and Tarja together tho, they look so happy they're amazing
Lets just say nightwish is one of the luckiest bands as they have and had some of the worlds best singers and leave it at that, comparing the level of talent between them is pointless, im completly in love with floor and i have no problem with acknowledging tarja and anette are just as amazing.
