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Low Tech Podcast, No. 69 - 07 Apr 2023
Tartarian Buildings?
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The idea of the Tartarian Empire is a conspiracy theory, but it gives us something to say about building longevity.
“Inside the ‘Tartarian Empire,’ the QAnon of Architecture,” Bloomberg article by Zach Mortice (@zachmortice).
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Bau am Kölner Dom, 1855 (Construction of Cologne Cathedral) by Johannes Franciscus Michiels (pub. dom.).

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@helios4u2
@helios4u2 9 месяцев назад
MY DEAR FRIEND, YOU SEEM TO BE SATISFIED WITH THE SIMPLEST EXPLANATIONS FOR COMPLICATED FACTS, SOMETIMES COMPLEX AND MYSTERIOUS. IT'S YOUR RIGHT, BUT PLEASE DON'T DISCOURAGE THOSE WHOSE MORE DEVELOPED CRITICAL MINDS CANNOT BE SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWERS ADULTS MAKE TO CURIOUS CHILDREN.
@careymxsmith-thomas8134
@careymxsmith-thomas8134 11 месяцев назад
This is clickbait. And the fact that RU-vid pushes channels like this to the forefront of searches tells me everything.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
You are correct. Let me tell you a secret I discovered about yt. I'm a retired nurse so on lots of medical videos. They hit those the hardest. When your intuition tells you, click on that avatar next to their name. Next screen click on View Channel down on right bottom. Next screen will say This channel has no content. Either a paid troll or shill or AI. Either way, a liar.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
Oh yeah. It's like when you look something up on Google and are bombarded with fact checkers. That should tell you to trust the opposite of what govt owned fact liars are claiming.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
Wait until you are put in timeout for 24 hours. Or Quora deletes your comment because you said all of the history we were taught is a lie.
@NOMOone
@NOMOone 5 месяцев назад
Yup.
@Roughneck8
@Roughneck8 4 месяца назад
@@VickiTakacs. That's on a mobile, on a PC you can just click the name or pic, I think people forget this is a website before an app. For the rest of it, I mean, that's literally you, I click on your stuff and you have 100+ subs but no content.
@raftaylor1376
@raftaylor1376 11 месяцев назад
This guy is cia
@therespectedlex9794
@therespectedlex9794 2 месяца назад
There are many sketchy employees in the media. Many of them don't even call themselves employees, in spite of working on You Tube or internet videos etc, TV or radio.
@user-ch7cv9gk3d
@user-ch7cv9gk3d 9 месяцев назад
Funny how RU-vid automatically presents me this debunk video after watching Robert Boerman's amazing 52 min 'Cymatic Tartaria' video.
@oneluv4us74
@oneluv4us74 9 месяцев назад
The same way they do with flat earth, free energy or any other anti truth they want to spout
@josiahemrick
@josiahemrick 8 месяцев назад
yup just learned about tartaria a few days ago. i cant believe ive never heard of it before as i am constantly looking at different conspiracies and new information and have been doing this since 2010. just looked up “tartaria buildings” and this is the first one. this happens ALL the time with the theories on conspiratorial topics. it wasnt always this way. ever since google bought youtube, you cant find this kind of stuff easy. it gets buried.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 8 месяцев назад
That is how you know you've found a truth. RU-vid IS GOVT. On Google you will get hit with fact checker after fact checker.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 8 месяцев назад
Look up video of Sky train in Germany. Still operating today. See moving sidewalk from then also. Lights back then from free, atmosphere and GLOWED. SEE fairs.
@Cutdiamond
@Cutdiamond 8 месяцев назад
Me too....this guy's a farkwit :D
@noahravenna7818
@noahravenna7818 Год назад
No evidence of Tartaria except all the old maps of the world showing a huge area of earth called Tartaria.
@theonekeanu8920
@theonekeanu8920 Год назад
😂😂
@michaelwills1926
@michaelwills1926 Год назад
No doubt
@Ninjasnail1926
@Ninjasnail1926 Год назад
Tartaria could be a old language that means, “fill in later” 😂 or “redraw I screwed it up” 😂 might be why it’s written all over the map 😂might me “redo” lol or “need proper spelling of country name” 😂 tartaria could be a cuss word for i screwed up again... amd their conspiracy theory is a map makers rant about a screw up or inability to spell uskanstamdan. I feel him cause I can’t even get close enough to spell the country for u to figure out what country I’m trying to spell after 15 minutes of struggling without google for u to figure out what country im talking about just like the people back then wouldn’t have google 😂😂😂 so I think Tartaria means “ I can’t spell it $@!?!” 😂 good luck figuring out the country I tried to spell 😂 TARTARIA!!! Ugh!! 😂
@ar_xiv
@ar_xiv Год назад
You could understand why this might have been the case but you won't
@FraudulentEarth68
@FraudulentEarth68 Год назад
guy's clearly fast asleep
@Nathan-w5h
@Nathan-w5h 8 месяцев назад
😂 this is so funny I’ve been a master bricklayer for 35 years and from word go I asked my teachers how they built the Houses of Parliament and St. Paul cathedral Westminster Abbey and so on they like me had no idea but please people put that to one side for a minute and ask yourself how they excavated the London Underground underneath at the time we are told it was done the biggest city anywhere through the solid bedrock and if anyone has travelled through them north south east and west London and been under the River Thames or down the escalator in Camden town or many others and still think that it was done in Victorian times I’m tired of the lies and the deceit god bless you all
@maggot5693
@maggot5693 7 месяцев назад
I've been a master brick layer for 36 years
@meinkek7896
@meinkek7896 Месяц назад
Those buildings aren't made by us. Those buildings are self healing. They dont crack. I wonder how the previous civilizations build it
@ancientartrevived
@ancientartrevived Год назад
Hilarious all you folks calling those doubting history, ‘worst than flat earthers’. When you have Nietzsche writing a whole book on how history is regularly re-written (many other great minds). So thinking that parts of history are lies makes one ignorant does it?? Lol a cat calls another cat a dog.
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
The official history is the cover story, and it makes No sense and has no consistency. I'm glad we're not settling on "experts are baffled" - we're not.
@Unitedfruitco
@Unitedfruitco 11 месяцев назад
Cats and dogs, huh?
@dergutehut3961
@dergutehut3961 11 месяцев назад
As one of the people that do call them "worse than flat earthers" I should explain why I think that. Its not about "doubting history" its about ignoring it (the same way Flatties ignore physics). If someone bases his view on history on false dilemmas, ignores the obvious or well proven answer to questions, and make up new ones that are not based in reality and disproven by most of the available evidence...than that is not just doubting. Ironically the people in the mudflood community are the WORST when it comes to critizise their own sources or just put them in context. They are the ones who look at a map and assume: This empire must be real because its on a map...which is hilarious if you know who draw those maps and why and how and what they actually knew about the region. Thats like watching a Mc.Donalds spot and assume that must be healthy food because this "documentary" said so. Historians on the other hand take what Nietzsche said always into account. Thats why they use the critical method...of asking a source serious questions..about every source and doesn't see things confirmed unless they can cross reference them with different sources. ALL sources lie to some degree or exaggerate or leave out or are blatantly uniformed...but its the historians job to squeeze out the bit of reliable information every source can give us...which has to be done with careful consideration and knowledge of the time the sources talk about and their relation to others. Thats why we don't get a chronic of a king read it and be like: "Oh..seems that guy was a flawless hero who kicked ass in every battle and ruled just and super succesful". A lot of sources basically read like campaign adds. But we CAN extract information and gather our own. For example we know the battle of Kadesh mostly from Egyptian sources..and yet we con't think the Egyptians won a glorious victory...as Ramses told everyone. We know that the city wasn't taken by them and we know a bit about the losses of both armies, as well as the negotiation that follows, plus we have examined the battlefield etc.etc...and so historians rather call it a tie. History is not a lie. We have a pretty good idea on what happened...(at least since the medieval times, and in some time periods with lots of documents like the roman period)...but history is mostly about the questions what caused what, or what was responsible for that or what had an effect on what or wether or not something was justified and what factors lead to something, what was a person about, what was the significance of an event..and THATS where historians all disagree and have different theories and ideas and preferences..and of course a lot of perspectives of historians are heavily biased. That doesn'T make them liars or the stories they tell unreliable..but they have to be taken with a grain of salt...if it comes to those questions. And of course history is a science where we constantly get new data so often we have to re-date something or assume that an event didn'T happened or happened differently or had a different outcome or cause.
@thewatcher720
@thewatcher720 9 месяцев назад
A better video from a better channel: TARTARIA Explained ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBxA9BJFlqk.html
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
@@dergutehut3961 You need to do a lot more research. Very brainwashed and programmed. Explain why we can see so much farther than they say is possible. That is not physics. You believe a ridiculous lie. Back in 1900 according to books, real books, everyone knew the earth was FLAT just like everyone knew shots were poison. All they tell you and taught you WAS LIES. All.
@highdiscoveror3080
@highdiscoveror3080 9 месяцев назад
Can you please sir, build a pyramid with your sand
@thetastelesschef7463
@thetastelesschef7463 Год назад
Then what about all of the electrical antenna found on the extremely old homes? Along with the the antenna that still "works" in one of the Asian countries??? (Seriously asking)
@JessiQT17
@JessiQT17 Год назад
Used to access free energy which everybody can have and use yet we pay for it
@ar_xiv
@ar_xiv Год назад
they are either 1. lightning rods 2. decoration 3. decorative lightning rods 4. not that old
@thetastelesschef7463
@thetastelesschef7463 Год назад
@@ar_xiv do you really believe that? Have you looked into any of the overwhelming evidence? Tartaria, old Asia, before ww1 or 2? All the bells hitler took to "melt down" the CIA papers about Russia.... That's just on the face with no theory's of conspiracy....
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
If wasn't even thought twice about that these things created energy. It wasn't considered something technical. Yet it eludes our entire civilization.
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
@rycka88 Resonator made of gold. Copper wires leading to mercury. Toroidal field generated by resonator and then fed into mercury to create electrical energy used to connect from the roof to th fireplace device which heats up the backplate of those ornate fireplaces. A bit like the pyramid in terms of being a massive circuit.
@CaidenJones-gk6sm
@CaidenJones-gk6sm 8 месяцев назад
You literally did not even address all of what you started off with, you were more on the lines of trying to sound smart or that you know it all.
@RegnaSaturna
@RegnaSaturna 11 месяцев назад
You're right. But still, soo many anomalies. It would be equally foolish to just dismiss them. We need a serious debate. Not another us vs.them.
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
It would be foolish and ignorant to claim our civilization built a single old word building.
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
We never have 'debate'. It's aways 'follow the science' and be shamed if you don't comply unthinkingly isn't it ? It's never been a society that debated things before they were imposed. Never.
@josiahemrick
@josiahemrick 8 месяцев назад
@@seanp8220you said it bro
@kated9853
@kated9853 6 месяцев назад
Well said about a debate!
@BE74297
@BE74297 5 месяцев назад
don't talk to him or any of the Nerd Woke Order nerds.
@bennyskim
@bennyskim Год назад
San Francisco has been built on top of older structures over the years, they say the entire town has been replaced numerous times. I've seen as I'm sure many others have, the older red brick buildings under Financial District whenever they do construction. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that a Hurricane Katrina level event, or greater, could bury coastal cities. Tartarians or not, the world around 1890-1910 did seem to be a time of humanity at its best. Beautiful architecture, technology, clothing, etiquette - everything seems to be in decline since that time.
@PP-mz4hv
@PP-mz4hv 10 месяцев назад
Humanity at its best for whom? Lynchings (public) were prevalant.
@rodeo7clown
@rodeo7clown 9 месяцев назад
Only China Basin, by the ball park. They scuttled a lot of ships there in the gold rush and made an artificial reef, then eventually started putting some earth on it and eventually built. Not crazy.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 8 месяцев назад
It is ALL cities not just San Francisco. All was mudfloods and tons still buried. You can see windows and doors buried, top heavy buildings. All over the world. It was Seattle and so many other cities here. You need to look at old photos.
@mrzelo8788
@mrzelo8788 7 месяцев назад
If you'd only knew why...
@EricSepulveda
@EricSepulveda 7 месяцев назад
​@@VickiTakacs.Idk man probably just SF
@stephanieramirez2947
@stephanieramirez2947 6 месяцев назад
Do you have any videos going into detail about how exactly they built these buildings ? What about all the timelines stating they were built in a matter of years here in the USa for example most city halls - pasadena ca. Look everywhere they say construction started in 1923 and completed in 1927. Austin state capital 1882 completed 1887. With horses and wagons as primary mode of transporation? It takes us many many years to complete buildings now with all the "advancments" we now have. Elijiah Meyers is the alleged architect who did texas state capital, Michigan and Colorado all within the same decade? So this dude had three massvive projects done in 1800s ! Wow!! This is a recuurring theme . Thoughts on this??
@gregoriousChowanoac
@gregoriousChowanoac 11 месяцев назад
This is themost ridiculous so called debunk ever
@blazonbyrd5996
@blazonbyrd5996 6 месяцев назад
Yep - I hope he was paid well.
@artmosley3337
@artmosley3337 3 месяца назад
Iv been in these buildings.. you are not thinking… it’s impossible to just make the bricks… the walls are 5 feet thick of solid bricks.. huge stone foundations…
@ancientartrevived
@ancientartrevived Год назад
To the video maker… are you really saying the established opinion is that they built structures dug into the ground (meaning they excavated tons upon tons of earth, made a sub surface structure which is incredibly hard to keep damp out and lessens the longevity of the structure, increases maintenance of the building, had to contend with drainage issues during the construction sub ground level etc) just so they can put windows at ground level to light the basement??? Really?? Well I come from a family of architects and I can certainly tell you it’s a lot easier to build the structure bigger for the extra space the basement would provide, or not allowing this, to build another level higher. If you doubt this, ask your builder for a quote to build a 20m2 single story extension with basement vs a 20m2 two story extension. It being clear building higher was no issue (see multiple-storied old buildings for proof), this explanation seems fundamentally lacking. Jeez and to see the amount of people in this comment section condemning ‘lack of critical thinking skills’ I do believe not many of you are critically thinking about this.
@an0therdimensi0n99
@an0therdimensi0n99 Год назад
think of deniers as the brush we need to start a raging fire.
@josiahemrick
@josiahemrick 8 месяцев назад
youre on point
@maggot5693
@maggot5693 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant
@EricSepulveda
@EricSepulveda 7 месяцев назад
Wtf are you going on about stfu
@MiddlePath007
@MiddlePath007 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, but, it's not crazy to think it was done. Especially if someone wanted more room and didn't have space on either side to use. At least some structures may have had a someone say "oh the smith's have a basement and the smythes and the smittys! I want a basement!
@jamesburke4358
@jamesburke4358 11 месяцев назад
This guy is too hyper-sure of himself. All ego. The Tartaria bros don't have the answer, but raise good questions. We're allowed to be curious. Anyone should be fascinated by how many masterpiece buildings were "founded" and completed in 1 year according to 1800s narrative, many times by architects who allegedly made only 1 building. Try explaining that. You can't. Nobody can. Where I think the research waters muddy is the heavy reliance on "tartaria" and "mudflood" branding, which is silly and derails the topic. It's glaringly evident we have been conditioned to accept dumb history with the worst plot holes. Slavemasters have to keep their slaves either ignorant, or worse, fooling them into thinking they are highly educated to keep them under control.
@tiffanyrain456
@tiffanyrain456 8 месяцев назад
why cant we build anything like these now??? it is definitely a question ...
@jaywalkercrew4446
@jaywalkercrew4446 2 месяца назад
They used slave labour
@wormbo2
@wormbo2 Год назад
This narrator: explains that he's an archaeologist, who are KNOWN and RENOWNED for their flexible and adaptive thinking, and ability to change their minds with new evidence. Also: German heritage, so literally a descendant of the 2nd world war faction that was responsible for the destruction and damage of the archaeological building systems DESCRIBED IN THIS VIDEO! If this isn't some sort of Psy-Op propaganda distraction video, then I'm a spaghetti noodle!
@LowTechInstitute
@LowTechInstitute Год назад
Just speaking German doesn't make someone German... And yeah, read an archaeological textbook from 1900 and you'll see that ideas haven't changed at all... Minds are changed with evidence and generational shifts. Thanks for watching.
@bennyskim
@bennyskim Год назад
Who bombed Dresden
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
@@LowTechInstitute total horse pucks.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
@@bennyskim Allies. US, Britain.
@SimonHunt-vl1kc
@SimonHunt-vl1kc Год назад
"Archaeologists are well known for their open minded interpretations and their eagerness to embrace the evolution of knowledge." This is sarcasm. Did you not notice? I think you have a really useful channel but your argument here is misleading and pathetic.
@s.a.j.johnson
@s.a.j.johnson Год назад
Why engage sarcasm directly? Bring facts. That will convince people, not snide remarks and ad hominem attacks.
@SalsaSippin_
@SalsaSippin_ Год назад
Muh dinosaurs
@Ninjasnail1926
@Ninjasnail1926 Год назад
It is pretty far fetched. It’s a long long run around to link this one together… doesn’t make sense. Their facts are smashed together.. hard.. then smashed again. Then saying, see it fits!who thought this up?
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
There is one who is pathetic ...
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
@@Ninjasnail1926 far fetched is our reality. You live in a Sci Fi movie where microchips made out of sand control computers/robots etc. You also come from a fantasy movie.
@Sean420-h9k
@Sean420-h9k 6 месяцев назад
You're right. Released CIA documents talking about the systematic eraser of TaTaria. Now the mud flood and old world buildings i don't know about. But, TaTaria was a real Nation with a government, language, currency, military, and authors/painters. Not only that. But, there is documentation stating the leaders from China, and Russia went to TaTaria. To bring gifts to the leader of TaTaria. It's all online to see.
@bobdobbs7795
@bobdobbs7795 5 месяцев назад
CIA document reveals truth of Tartarian Empire ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ka0XRIj5OB0.html
@mg5352
@mg5352 Год назад
Yes there was nephelim
@lumenlyhty
@lumenlyhty 11 месяцев назад
You are strawmaning too much in this video, tell me when you've grown up a little more that you can actually tackle the arguments people make.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
Look at the epitaph on Wherner Von Braun's tombstone. He is telling you globe earth is a lie. Look up where globe earth uses 666.
@lilgregsharkbar504
@lilgregsharkbar504 10 месяцев назад
They have found that layer of mud in the book "the Bible as history" the archeological dig of the ancient city of UR which is modern Iraq
@dominotruth
@dominotruth Год назад
You do know that Tatar (also spelled Tartar) is still spoken language, right? It’s been a spoken language since the 5th Century.
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
Tartaria and Tartary are two different countries/lands
@tv-oe2gk
@tv-oe2gk 9 месяцев назад
You're wrong.
@maggot5693
@maggot5693 7 месяцев назад
The picture of the cologne cathedral,,,, the part on the left looks really old for a new construction.... looks like a reno
@johnsmith974
@johnsmith974 6 месяцев назад
I am from germany The dome of cologone was constructed and advanced over centuries. In our days they have to refurbish regulary part of the building. They have experts for contruction materials trying 2 get closest to how they originaly made it. So part of the dome regulary reconstructed.
@pexeq
@pexeq Год назад
3:31 why not call it a theroy? Why must it be a "conspiracy theory"?
@darrylhenry5839
@darrylhenry5839 Год назад
For something to be a viable theory, there must be some credible evidence to back it up. There is none with the Tartaria/mudflood myth
@LowTechInstitute
@LowTechInstitute Год назад
In addition to @darrylhenry5839 's point, it is thought that there is a conspiracy of the governments and mainstream society to suppress this idea. That's the conspiracy part of the "theory." Thanks for watching.
@geniussnake497
@geniussnake497 Год назад
I think it is all just semantics. In truth, both are simply "theories", but a "conspiracy" theory is a sub-type, which implies a hidden hand pulling the strings in a given scenario.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 10 месяцев назад
I have a typology that helps explain this. A scientific theory is a validly-formed hypothesis that is not refuted by available scientific evidence. The heart of a successful criminal conspiracy prosecution is a conspiracy hypothesis borne out by legal evidence. The conspiracy hypotheses such as the mudflood, nebulous NWO, Bush doing 9/11, etc. are, at best, not borne out by any kind of evidence, not legal and not scientific. (NSA spying on us was a conspiracy hypothesis, and one that attracted crackpots, until it got leaked and became a proven theory - but rational explanations of it didn't make you sound crazy because governments do those things.) What most call conspiracy theories are, at best, conspiracy hypotheses, and at worst, not even hypotheses (just thinly veiled excuses). One part of sorting these things is a concept of asking "so what is gained by this, and by who?" Often you find that these things don't even have a beneficiary, so it's irrelevant (for the purpose of conspiracy studies, where the hypothesis is supposed to be one of a combination for nefarious purposes) if they're true or false.
@happierabroad
@happierabroad 11 месяцев назад
What about Howdie Mickoski? He makes a lot of strong points in his interviews and podcasts that no one can explain. What about Coral Castle in Florida built by a small frail man who quarried and cut and build stone megaliths that are 100 tons all by himself? No one can explain that. Why do you atheists always claim that there are no genuine mysteries when they are everywhere? Also Howdie talked to architects in Norway and they said the World's Fairs would have taken them 15 years to build, not 2.
@dergutehut3961
@dergutehut3961 11 месяцев назад
I don't know about that guy who built palaces by himself..but it is far easier to lift heavy loads than one could think if you understand the bases of mechanical physics...a thing most of our forefathers did. Some had cranes or pulleys, or ramps or used water ways, or even hydraulic helpers. We might not know exactly how each building was constructed but we have no reason to believe the people needed the help of supernatural beings or highly advanced technology.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
@@dergutehut3961 You are not really SEEING Anything.
@truthtalker911
@truthtalker911 11 месяцев назад
its more than that bro, they have practically cities underground that aren't explained but hidden going many levels down and ive even lived in a place with windows they'll say were for sunlight which can make sense however right nearby they had big metal fence surrounding that same style architecture, so WTF
@Randomjackass135
@Randomjackass135 11 месяцев назад
Explain what that has to do with anything
@marcobelli6856
@marcobelli6856 9 месяцев назад
Bro it’s easy trough Time we always Go up in Levels of dirt Building always on top of other thing. That’s why ancient Roman thing we find is always when Doing excavation. Also if you didn’t live in America but Europe you would See were this Kind of building come from. They are not impressive at all
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
London Blitz also a lie. Fakenukes bitchute. Old photos.
@aljawisa
@aljawisa Год назад
First you had a mud flood now you have someone to muddy the waters.
@bobdobbs7795
@bobdobbs7795 5 месяцев назад
This channel is in serious denial.
@angr3819
@angr3819 Год назад
Here in England, my 1920 born father was told in school that Tartaria had become too huge and was always warring, so had to be broken up. That makes sense as no large empire ever grew without wars and much cruelty, and slavery. The empire is also mentioned in antiquarian encyclopedias. As for the intracies of the buildings, a lot of people who romanticise Tartaria and more don't seem to realise that none of the buildings were completed overnight. Many took untold years, even decades, often being enlarged over generations. Much blood, sweat and tears as well as permanent injuries and deaths. No social security or compensation. No social security if they were out of work, either. They worked if they possibly could, or became homeless and starved along with their families. That said, it was known for the nobility and royals as well as other overly rich, far too powerful people to not pay for the materials and work done so workmen wouldn't always be paid for their long periods of hard, dangerous work. Not to mention the grand buildings which failed during construction. The skills involved didn't just happen. Such skills took generations of learning including new methods, and knowing what didn't work.
@ar_xiv
@ar_xiv Год назад
everything you're saying is like normal believable stuff except the fact that there was no "tartarian empire." There were *other* empires that really did exist like that Austrian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, etc that were broken up... if the tartarian empire was "mentioned" in old encyclopedias but never documented, is it not so hard to believe that maybe it was a misnomer all along? but you're probably a flat earther or something anyway so I don't know why I even waste my time
@usheilan8713
@usheilan8713 11 месяцев назад
@@ar_xiv 2 things: 1) There are old maps naming/showing Tartaria. 2) this video shows a CIA document mentioning it and its history being rewritten. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3rHbr4i5ZHE.html
@AngelsofAnarchy
@AngelsofAnarchy 10 месяцев назад
funny how anyone could j scroll to c this but so many choose to deny n trust our evil gov instead.
@rigavitch
@rigavitch 9 месяцев назад
Yes I have a Tartar neighbour. Scoffs at all this BS about it. There's docs and lots of info about The Tartarian people. Nothing mysterious after a year of research...
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
No, just no. Your father was given partial truths. You must look at other things they've lied about like the sculptor Bernini or even Da Vinci.
@KristinkaAranova
@KristinkaAranova 9 месяцев назад
Most medieval cathedrals weren’t even completed till the 1800s
@jkirch523
@jkirch523 Год назад
Wow This video wasnt convincing the slightest. ill stick to the historical documents and never forget to go anywhere without a true Barbarian to protect me, COUGH COUGH I MEAN Barber or was it Tartar ahhh HUH.....???? Hahaha
@michaelwills1926
@michaelwills1926 Год назад
The world was clearly populated by crafty craftsmen on every continent who knew the same way of building stuff in an age before telecommunications. Happens all the time apparently
@dergutehut3961
@dergutehut3961 Год назад
Yes..that happens if crartsmen from one country go to another country...unless they suffer Amnesia on the way over they usually can still built like they did in their home-country. So if one continent...lets call it Europe...gains territory in almost all the other continents we can expect that the building style of that particular continent can be found everywhere and that it got influences from everyhwere. So...what do we see...oh..yeah..exactly that. Also...its a bit sad that you can't imagine people being in contact without telecommunication. Maybe you ask your grandparents about a thing they call: "letters" or your parents about a thing they call "books"...if you have those you can communicate knowledge all over the world. Even in Roman times you could order a book written by a guy in Alexandria in London and you could have it in 2 weeks...so don't underestimate how connected the world was in the 18-20th century.
@ar_xiv
@ar_xiv Год назад
Is it that hard to believe that building techniques spread across europe and the new world? you people don't understand anything I stg
@dysay
@dysay Год назад
Entheogens
@Randomjackass135
@Randomjackass135 11 месяцев назад
Yes. Like when you give a child blocks to play with.
@EricSepulveda
@EricSepulveda 7 месяцев назад
A recent unclassified CIA document acknowledges Tartaria and its existence. It talks about how Tartaria was intentionally removed from history. Its not very far-fetched. Especially in a society where the vast majority believe everything the TV tells them. Also,those old-world buildings claim to have been built in 1 or 2 years. Some are made entirelt of solid marble..Philidelphia town hall has walls something like 20 feet thick! Im not saying Tartarians built all that, but we sure didn't. I appreciate your efforts in making this video. Its done very well and is thorough. You should do more research on these 'conspiract theories' (cia coined term to guide the sheeple away from opposing ideas). You dont seem to understand the insane architecture these inherated buildings have. Theyre not retrofitted. Philidelphia wanted to tear down their city hall but they calculated they would be in so much debt theyd have to go bankrupt paying for the labor and the the job wouldnt even be 50% done yet
@garymunro7561
@garymunro7561 Год назад
Archeologists are well known for their open minded interpretations and their eagerness to embrace the evolution of knowledge.
@LowTechInstitute
@LowTechInstitute Год назад
They are. Archaeology has had major revolutions of understanding since it started. Many times. Every time, though, new and persuasive hard evidence was needed. It isn't the archaeologists' job to disprove Tartaria, but rather the job of the Tartarian proponents to show hard evidence that this happened. What writing system did Tartaria use, for example? Show texts that talk about this empire contemporaneously both within and outside the empire. Demonstrate geological evidence for the mud flood as well as documentary evidence of the same. If that happened, it would be in the social memory as well as documents. Use a comparative architectural study to show that the building methods of structures across this "empire" were in fact from a unified system (i.e., similar construction methods, components, tropes, etc. that cannot be attributed to cherry picking; it must be systemic). Comparisons of pictures alone is not hard evidence. If it exists, bring the new, tangible evidence, not novel interpretations of old evidence.
@wormbo2
@wormbo2 Год назад
Graham Hancock begs to differ...
@michaelwills1926
@michaelwills1926 Год назад
I sense a strong sarcasm here
@angr3819
@angr3819 Год назад
@@LowTechInstitute Tartaria overpowered many other countries and regions. Various people of different languages. Same as empires during the past few hundred years, most would have kept their own languages.
@ancientartrevived
@ancientartrevived Год назад
@LowTechInstitute ok if you’d be kind, show how open minded you are by responding professionally as an archaeologist, to my comment re building a basement being much harder than building up or out for the required extra space. You imply this is the archaeological fact. Is it not the case that archaeologists often disagree with one another? Please correct me if in fact they are all in perfect harmony and come to agreement about every historical idea relating to the dig. Look I’m simply searching for truth and it’s professional especially in the field of archaeology to question these things and seek better understanding.
@karencontestabile6064
@karencontestabile6064 Год назад
You don't know the half of it...
@NOMOone
@NOMOone 7 месяцев назад
Dude, who is paying you? You sound out of your mind. You fail to logistically prove anything was possible by these war like religious simpletons.
@brucegoodall3794
@brucegoodall3794 8 месяцев назад
I don't support politicians, police, or ignorant RU-vid channels. You are either an ignorant liar or a purposeful liar. Either way, you're part of the problem.
@joegrind5865
@joegrind5865 7 месяцев назад
I’m not impressed with the video, yo can rebuild these buildings. Tartaria is still making sense to me
@Overstand100
@Overstand100 8 месяцев назад
What's her story, because HIStory has too many holes.
@howiedoodie
@howiedoodie 8 месяцев назад
Haha. Hilarious. Look at the Minnesota State Capitol just for one of thousands of 15:49 examples. Your logic is absurd
@CaidenJones-gk6sm
@CaidenJones-gk6sm 8 месяцев назад
Looks about like KY state capitol!
@enevoldmusic
@enevoldmusic 11 месяцев назад
Just stop.... that was weak sauce
@DaUnforgiven1
@DaUnforgiven1 Год назад
The similarity in architecture across the world is easy to explain. Noah’s flood reduced human population to Noah and his sons and their families. This is also the same civilization group that built the Tower of Babel. The Bible says God confused their tongues so they would scatter and repopulate the earth like they were told to do instead of staying in one location. These tribes scattered across the earth but they all came from the group that built the Tower of Babel. So advanced architecture was already well known to them. And since all ethnic groups can be traced back to one of Noah’s 3 sons. Then it’s easy to see how every culture and civilization has similar ancient ruins
@dionharris8928
@dionharris8928 Год назад
Thank you.
@BizarreAndrogynous
@BizarreAndrogynous Год назад
Not trying to be snarky here but genuinely how can we all come from one of three ancestoral trees? If that is the case then where do people of different races come from? Like was there not a black, white, and Asian version of Adam and Eve?
@dionharris8928
@dionharris8928 Год назад
​@@BizarreAndrogynous ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZD1FfD8d3Jg.htmlsi=9Vgg7NSmVUp_QrLS
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
The flood was caused by frequency based technology. most likely all biblical stories were based on technology
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 10 месяцев назад
utterly irrelevant
@collinsomerille7604
@collinsomerille7604 Год назад
I wonder if anyone has found some kind of large battery system in these old buildings? Or some sort of generator?
@urbanmagik
@urbanmagik Год назад
Look at atmospheric or Corona motors. They can be powered by high voltage which is naturally occurring in our atmosphere ie tall buildings with spikes
@collinsomerille7604
@collinsomerille7604 Год назад
@@urbanmagik Thank you for the information. This is great! I'm looking forward to researching this.
@jonanderson4474
@jonanderson4474 10 месяцев назад
Also they re figured out how to utilize bricks as batteries.
@gadaffiskid
@gadaffiskid 10 месяцев назад
Wow, you really did no research on this first did you 😅
@Overstand100
@Overstand100 10 месяцев назад
If there's 1 lie about 1 building you have to take pause
@CoercedJab
@CoercedJab Год назад
“No it didn’t” 😂 🤡 🌍 Dat straw man tho
@lahcenebelbachir7929
@lahcenebelbachir7929 Год назад
I was about to listen to the whole thing, but the overconfident way he said "No, it didn't" made me immediately reconsider, lmao. 😅
@kimchiwasabee
@kimchiwasabee Год назад
First pic is the Cologne cathedral.
@LowTechInstitute
@LowTechInstitute Год назад
Correct. In the process of being built... by mere nontartarian mortals in the mid- to late 1800s. Thanks for watching.
@MathewTitus
@MathewTitus Год назад
I mean - clearly you've watched about two or three Jon Levi videos before coming up with this anti-hypothesis.
@devriestown
@devriestown 11 месяцев назад
Ok. So you don't believe the great flood happened?
@1992-g2k
@1992-g2k День назад
"Lol trust me I'm an archeologist"..... lol I trust engineers for a living.. We spend countless days wasted getting stuff reapproved because the big dollar engineer is an idiot....
@Just.a.girl.doing.her.dharma
@Just.a.girl.doing.her.dharma Месяц назад
Guy you been taught (Told ) how to do your research. You need to go back to nature and get taught. A friend of mine has a globe from a little metal pencil shapers his mom collected ((made in Hong Kong) one comes with a globe, has Tartaria on it. This was from the 70s. His mother has passed away many years ago. But she was also a painter. In a dream she had, came forth a painting that would speak volumes to mudflood. And city that looks to be under mud and then a new city built on top. His mother im seeing (Bc many years ago I did not know what I did not know) was gifted.
@NOMOone
@NOMOone 5 месяцев назад
There’s this word called LOGISTICS. You should learn it. You should also learn that the leftovers of Britain’s prison system did not have a cultural system in place to nurture the bumper crop of the thousands of artisans you magically believe in. You should talk to some artist, then some architects, then some structural engineers and sit them down, show a picture of the Chicago’s world fair in 1893, then tell them it’s 650 acres and they built it in 2 years with no power tools, or heavy earth movers. Your argument is failing miserably. Also, I lied, they only had 18 months, Illinois has this thing called HARSH winter where nada is being built. Keep studying, your arguments are easily defeated by logistics.
@maggot5693
@maggot5693 7 месяцев назад
Kids still sing ,,,ring around the Rosie... where's that bro, we're you live......is that part of your evidence What's the function of below grade,,,, the next generations spending their life savings on damp course I worked with geo,s. On exploration drill rigs,,, some days they wouldn't turn up an i was hung over,,,,who knows what went in them sample bag's
@blox4513
@blox4513 7 месяцев назад
If a great cataclysm didn´t destroy civilizations, then explain the layer of black/dark sediments found all around the world. Where does Terra Prata come from - do you really believe the Amazonas was created by humans?!
@petrospetromixos6962
@petrospetromixos6962 4 месяца назад
So what\? A bunch of Russians start building Greek architectur buildings all over the place? Why?Doesnt make sence more like Greek masons build them
@marybowers6090
@marybowers6090 5 месяцев назад
RU-vid is heavily censored. If you want to make a pie come to RU-vid, if you want real knowledge you will have to get that from a non censored platform such as odyssey, patrion or maybe rumble . I don’t go here for knowledge, too much paid propaganda
@428dragpak
@428dragpak 5 месяцев назад
Lol 1893 Chicago world fair 200 buildings built in 2yrs with no excavators electricity or intelligent work force in Chicago weather
@ixib00giemanixi
@ixib00giemanixi 4 месяца назад
I just think it's odd that the creator of the video admits to being conditioned to not build sustainably i.e. structures not utilizing the environment or being as durable but... thousands of years ago we were?... even as recent as hundreds of years ago?... so then I ask why? I mean to me it makes sense with the way we think about being environmentally friendly that it would have always been the goal to build sustainably unless you had another reason?... oh wait thats right the real estate game amd the money there amd zoning laws and the money there uhp and lets not forget taxes.... but you're so right i should read more i have no idea what im talking about afterall im just a clown right?
@Just.a.girl.doing.her.dharma
@Just.a.girl.doing.her.dharma Месяц назад
You need to look up the world fairs 1800s and beginning 1900s Very interesting!
@marklavoine8502
@marklavoine8502 Месяц назад
Why would you not have natural gas in 50 years? More gas in 50 years? More gas has been discovered in the last 50 years than was used, there is not less gas oil there is more than enough for the next 49
@Dragoncannon4
@Dragoncannon4 7 месяцев назад
Tartarians Empire... is Moorish Empire...you are lying through teeth....its Moorish African
@ashtarstar1248
@ashtarstar1248 7 месяцев назад
No wonder you only have 4.36k subscribers. There is more information about the tartarians. Its not a conspiracy.
@francoquinaz1003
@francoquinaz1003 3 дня назад
I'm what you call God and i built those buildings.
@SterlinNelson_VTXBuilders
@SterlinNelson_VTXBuilders 2 месяца назад
I'm a builder and learning about tartaria I see the major difference. Cheap labor does not build magnificent it builds the modern house
@colinroberts-li6ob
@colinroberts-li6ob 4 месяца назад
Ok then so who built these magnificent structures because there there we are lookin at em they didn't just build themselves I know that no one with horse n buggy built em impossible by how ever way you look at it
@aydrianindigo7015
@aydrianindigo7015 4 месяца назад
I agree the 'Tararians' are a foil for a no doubt advanced global race . Whatever you wanna call them there was definitely a people more advanced than us before us .
@kyleconger2109
@kyleconger2109 7 месяцев назад
This guy lost all credibility when he said he's an archeologists. Bro, we weren't educated in college. You were indoctrinated.
@littlebits3750
@littlebits3750 5 месяцев назад
You got one bit wrong, they knock down older smaller homes to build larger buildings full of tiny shoe box homes
@J1Nflo
@J1Nflo Год назад
Great video, my only question is how you mentioned the windows in the basement were to help get more natural light in - this makes sense for sure - but a lot of these supposed "mud flood" photos seem to show these windows/archways being "dug out" right? So how was natural light getting in of it was all underground anyway? If there was no ground level changing to begin with and no mud flood then yes these windows would be above ground correct? So then why are there photos of any submerged "basement levels"? Or any type of digging out to begin with? I agree with you on the functional purpose for natural light but with these alleged photos showing a change in ground level, what's that all about then?
@LowTechInstitute
@LowTechInstitute Год назад
Cities grow up over time as people bring in and deposit soil, pavement, and other debris. I don't know exactly what videos or photos you're mentioning, so I can't comment specifically, but check out this Wikipedia entry on tells to see how cities grow vertically over time: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_(archaeology) Thanks for watching.
@jelsner5077
@jelsner5077 Год назад
@J1Nflo Pick up a book on Palladio, the Italian Renaissance architect. Read it. Learn.
@ned_frankly
@ned_frankly 10 месяцев назад
​@@LowTechInstituteevery city shows this. Every single one. Half or entirely buried stories. You really want to believe what the "authorities" tell you, don't you. Your in your 20's, I'd say. You have no idea whats been hidden just in the decades prior to your arrival. Have some skepticism. Some of us have been looking at this for a long time.
@steveski3199
@steveski3199 9 месяцев назад
That question can be easily answered these hubris pieces of garbage not so humbly believe they know everything about everything.
@steveski3199
@steveski3199 9 месяцев назад
And then he mentions wikipedia? As if everything they say can be taken to the bank I mean really
@malcolmadams2105
@malcolmadams2105 5 месяцев назад
You don’t believe in the flood? @ 6:12 or 666 no less lol coincidence?!” Or.. just blind?!
@blazonbyrd5996
@blazonbyrd5996 6 месяцев назад
Sooo... this is what "Bought & Paid For" sounds like. Interesting.
@Alvah-t5s
@Alvah-t5s 10 месяцев назад
Sir I don't know a lot about the subject but I do know what I've heard in your contradicting a lot of evidence, you said there's been no mudslide yet all over the world they can find whole forests where the trees are still standing in the strata layers... Your channel seems to be all about dismiss dismiss dismiss rather than Explorer Explorer Explorer
@paulchannel8868
@paulchannel8868 8 месяцев назад
This guy is just regurgitating the false history that we were all taught, he is still in darkness. SAD.
@Dominic-tq6dw
@Dominic-tq6dw 8 месяцев назад
These constructions were Not built by humanbeings. Simply
@ceecee4685
@ceecee4685 3 месяца назад
Awww.... yup ...He's definitely a paid informant!
@jeffreyfaudi4999
@jeffreyfaudi4999 16 дней назад
Does he mention mud Volcanos No cause he dont know squat
@slymv9158
@slymv9158 10 месяцев назад
Underground with window explain that?
@omggnome1
@omggnome1 8 месяцев назад
About the Great Pyramid of Giza, how did they carve those big blocks of stones from the mountains?
@aydrianindigo7015
@aydrianindigo7015 4 месяца назад
I do remember a Tartary flag in school in an old smelly textbook
@nancymejia7126
@nancymejia7126 9 месяцев назад
What caused the mud flood? Is this separate from Noah's flood ?
@Nathan-w5h
@Nathan-w5h 8 месяцев назад
Sorry I know this is about tartarian buildings but it all goes hand in hand
@Nathan-w5h
@Nathan-w5h 8 месяцев назад
Sorry I know this is about tartarian buildings but it all goes hand in hand
@TouchingGrass406
@TouchingGrass406 9 дней назад
But what about the underground cities
@artmosley3337
@artmosley3337 3 месяца назад
I Am Arthur.. the Hidden King of Tartaria ..
@jonathanfisher202
@jonathanfisher202 Год назад
I just can't figure out how they think these huge, ornate buildings, some over a hundred feet high, were coveted by mud and dug out for modern use, with no documentation whatsoever in all the time those areas were inhabited. Where do they think enough mud came from, and why is there no reference in books, newspapers, or maps of the time. Why has no one ever found a letter saying, "Do you remember that huge hill in the middle of Chicago that we used to sled down as children? Well, that is the site of the World's Fair that everyone has been discussing. "
@dominotruth
@dominotruth Год назад
So I guess you believe that these huge ornate buildings were constructed in a year or two, correct? Because if you really look into them, almost all were said to be constructed within these crazy time frames. Only phony architect names are given, never ever the name of the Construction Companies or any of the builders. Not many construction photos either, so documentation was apparently never their strong suit.
@ar_xiv
@ar_xiv Год назад
@@dominotruth it's called the industrial revolution pal, we figured out a lot of stuff pretty quick
@dominotruth
@dominotruth Год назад
@@ar_xiv really? With dirt roads, horse & buggies, and no power tools? It’s taken 18 months for my neighbors simple siding house to get built, and over a year for most simple brick rectangular apartment complexes. And the above mentioned structures are not complicated. They don’t require complex materials and the supplies and labor are way easier to come by, yet they take so long. The 1st Industrial Revolution was between 1760-1840. In 1867 Wilhelm Emil Fein opened a workshop in Germany for precision mechanics and electrical engineering, and Rober Bosch did the same in 1886. But it wasn’t until 1895 that the first power tool wasn’t created by Wilhelm Emil Fein (and that doesn’t mean it was immediately available for folks in American to buy and use). In 1895 Fein invented the world’s first portable electric hand drill and in 1908 he developed the motorized hand sander for woodworking. If the building were built during the 1st Industrial Revolution, that means they were all supposedly done with hand tools in a year or two? All these uneducated folks just happened to ALL be master craftsmen? They were probably simple builders and farmers who could suddenly build masterpieces in such short time frames? Have you ever looked up the population sizes of these cities at the time these great building were supposedly built? Things just don’t add up. Also, why would such small populations with simple people need such lavish structures?
@ar_xiv
@ar_xiv Год назад
@@dominotruth maybe instead of coming to really stupid conclusions from ignorance you can actually try to learn something about the world
@dominotruth
@dominotruth Год назад
@@ar_xiv you’re the one writing one sentence comments. You obviously haven’t researched anything yourself, because if you had, you wouldn’t have just thrown out an answer like the Industrial Revolution. You using the Industrial Revolution as your example shows you know nothing about history and what really happened in that time period. So who is really an ignorant fool? That would be you.
@illunominatomc4295
@illunominatomc4295 9 месяцев назад
Does someone know where the media showing the advanced technology come from? I've Seen them around youtube but didn't see any sources that would be a great help to understand more
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
John Levi, Mind Unveiled, Martin Liedtke.
@ernestorizo1238
@ernestorizo1238 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂 but we have dinosaurs bones and how they lived.
@Yellowfever123
@Yellowfever123 9 месяцев назад
Well i think it safe to say they were dark skinned... 🤔
@sweetpeach3649
@sweetpeach3649 Год назад
People give flat earthers a hard time, but this "theory" is vastly more detached from reality imo. Just absolute tomfoolery.
@bennyskim
@bennyskim Год назад
So the idea that the earth is literally flat and not spherical like the visible moon is more detached from reality than the idea that a culture existed when we have evidence of their flag (it's yellow with a gryphon on it), they had their own spoken language, and famous figures throughout history identified as them? You lose all credibility with a statement like this
@ar_xiv
@ar_xiv Год назад
@@bennyskim what historical figures? everything you're saying comes from a long line of misunderstandings apparently amplified to this day.
@dmanwainright2132
@dmanwainright2132 8 месяцев назад
The only thing flat-earthers fear is sphere itself... Don't groan
@antongusev1929
@antongusev1929 4 месяца назад
you explained absolutely nothing
@voyager8611
@voyager8611 Год назад
Переводчик, читается Татария, а не Тартария. По правилам английского языка буквосочетание "ar" в закрытом типе слога - произносится как "а" то есть без "р".
@catherinegrimes2308
@catherinegrimes2308 Год назад
Я знаю.
@voyager8611
@voyager8611 Год назад
@@catherinegrimes2308 А если знаете, то зачем самое Глобальное государство за всю историю человечества - Татарию, затартарили ?
@mg5352
@mg5352 Год назад
There was not that many people in the world back then to do this massive projects.
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 11 месяцев назад
Evidently there was.
@KristinkaAranova
@KristinkaAranova 9 месяцев назад
All you need is a few hundred people day in and day out to build large structures
@Eyeamsamsameyeam
@Eyeamsamsameyeam Год назад
It’s the ego for me.
@Cindylogan480
@Cindylogan480 3 месяца назад
LIES LIES! We know the truth.
@pablodc8317
@pablodc8317 8 месяцев назад
From conspiracy fanatics to sceptic debunkers. The craziest thing is that both currents have evidence to support their own claims. That is why I observe and question the official narrative the most. An interesting video called VANILLA SKIES made by a RU-vidr left me thinking. Manual photoshop to conceal structures on pics from the 1850s. Perhaps it's not related.... IDK
@dergutehut3961
@dergutehut3961 Год назад
History isn't wrong..but your expectations about what you need for building impressive buildings is wrong. Thats like asking: How coudl people find a mate without dating apps? Or how could people reserve food without a fridge? Or how could people keep a multinational company going without computers? The simple answer is that you don't NEED modern things to achieve something. So..ther was defnitely no hidden empire all over the world..the marvelous buildings we see are mostly from cultures that are alive today...and the simple reason why we (mostly) don't built like that is that the art philsophy has chnanged fundamentally in the 20th century.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
History = His Story. Think.
@VickiTakacs.
@VickiTakacs. 9 месяцев назад
Bernini - Martin Liedtke.
@AkeemEllis-ez6sq
@AkeemEllis-ez6sq 3 месяца назад
Use me as the dislike button
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