It’s always fun to have more channel doing those gear talks; Talking how you use the pieces in your workflow, not just the feature list… keep em coming!
Not only could you record all your inputs via an audio interface, you have the option of recording to your DAW via this exact mixer. It’s pretty wild how flexible this thing is.
@@nedogled one advantage I think of recording multitrack on device vs to a DAW, is I don’t think you can write any EQ/Compressor changes to the DAW, the way you can choose pre/post onboard. I’m in the same boat as you, the possibilities are pretty endless.
@@robertgarvansnyder4665I have ran into this issue using my MPC to the Model 12, to Ableton. Beautiful mixer just bought it. However, the faders, panning and EQ do absolutely nothing when I record to Ableton. Is there any workaround on this? If so, then this mixer is absolutely 10/10. I JUST need to figure this one thing out lol. Highly disappointed if not
@@GoldynChyld unfortunately, you cannot record EQ/compressor movements to Ableton. I believe you CAN record them to SD card on the mixer, so a workaround could be to record internally, and then bounce the stems to Ableton. I believe Tascam added the functionality you want to the new flagship Model 2400, but I haven’t looked into it in detail.
@@GoldynChyld actually, I just watched another video mentioning that the EQ/Compression on multitrack USB channels is “borrowed from the Model 12”, so you may be in luck!! There’s probably a setting to activate/bypass it though. My Model 16 doesn’t have this, so I’m no help.
Glad you like them! It does require a bit of $, but so does any hoby. Once people get passed the "laptop phase" of making music, they'll discover a magical new world outside the DAW :)
I agree with you on the screen. I bought a Model 12 to try Dawless and the tiny screen and obscure error messages put me off. I might try the DP-24SD next.
Thanks for your excellent videos. I've watched this one and the one on your dawless setup several times. Having the Model 12, which I'm slowly learning to use, set up in the angle you have it immediately inspired me to do the same on my studiio desk, and happily I got it to fit. I've been plugging in gear during the last few days, with a few more coming. I don't have the gear yet attached with MIDI cables; not done that before, but just got a MIDI thru box (also per your suggestion) and it's waiting for inputs. I agree that the tiny screen is probably gonna be less useful. I have low vision, and it's just really hard to see without looking up close with magnification....not good, ergonomically. That said, looking forward to digging in more. Appreciate the knowledge shared!
Thanks, man! It's great to hear you found my videos useful, I hope they assist you in making a ton of fun music :) Let me know if you have any other specific questions that I may not have covered in my videos. Enjoy!
@@nedogled Thanks much! My journey is just getting started. I do have one question: a friend of mine shared with me a video of a device called a multi clock. I guess that some people have problems trying to record straight to a DAW due to sync issues among different instruments. I take it that you have little trouble with sync issues when recording to the Model 12's card before moving the stems to a DAW? I have not tried it out yet and I just got a cheap MIDI thru box a few days ago. What say you?
Hmm never actually heard of a multiclock. I guess if you were recording to a DAW, you would send the MIDI to the audio interface, but it's been a long time since I've gone down that road. But yeah, no issues recording multitracks to the Model 12 and transferring them later to the DAW. It's always possible to make micro adjustments to the BPM in the DAW, but I've never had to do that. Haven't really had to think about sync since I got the MIDI thru box several years ago :) As long as there's a master instrument that's sending the clock to other insturments, everyone will be on the same page.
@@nedogled All of that is good to know! I have a newer audio interface, the RME UCX II, that has MIDI IN/OUT and a "word clock,' but it's so new that it'll take me a bit to wrap my head around it. Of course, the Model 12 also has the same. I am learning to use the Digitaltakt, and thinking that it might be the master for my MIDI gear to stay in time while the data records to the Model 12. I think as far as raw data recording, maybe doing the Model 12, transferring the stems to a DAW, and making sure they line up, might be the most efflicent for now. One other question: you mentioned that you used the Harrison 32 as a DAW. Do you have a video on that, or otherwise, curious as to what you find useful over the other usual suspects. Thanks again!
The mixing part in Harrison Mixbus can be very chaotic and/or boring to an outside observer, but it's definitely a video I'd like to make! Just need to figure out a good way to present it in a useful way, so I'll be doing that for the music I'm currently making :)
I got a model 24 and to me all there boards could do with a screen jack output....where u could also plug a lead in to a computer ...where you then can see it all easier....and it have extra stuff... no what i mean
Just picked one up last week and I'm finding that it has all the right features for my creative workflow. MIDI sync is a key feature for me. I can sync all my gear in a MIDI loop, record myself jamming, go back and redo a track if needed, such as refining a performance on the TR-6S and then use the VAMP feature to find short loops that are worthy of keeping in a final mix. I'm just learning about the VAMP feature, but I would really like if I could jump between the vamp sections as opposed to letting the track continue until the next vamp (because the vamps are the "good" parts of the jam"). At first I had an problem with the board not having an actual FX loop, but now I'm seeing that using a channel for FX return allows you to record the effect return as a separate stereo track which is actually pretty useful. A typical FX return might not have the routing ability to record on the fly without ultimately sending it to a stereo channel. Also, I tend to think I need more tracks than I really do. 8 tracks for instruments and 2 for effects is actually enough for most songs I work on.
I haven't tried adding MIDI to my Model 12, but I bet it opens up a whole new world of possibilities! Indeed the VAMP feature is a great addition, plagued by a subpar interface IMO
Elo. Where u mentioned about not yet figuring out a way of sequencing your guitar, I can offer a suggestion. I recently got an RC 202. It’s ideal as it has MIDI in & out so you can sync your guitar loops perfectly. I have clock sent from Maschine via MIDI to a thru box, then from thru box to tr8s, 2 x boutiques (ju06a & sh01a) td3 and rc202. With the rc202 my bass or guitar can be perfectly synced to everything else. It would be a good option for you for sure. Also, if u put any effects after the RC202, you can manipulate the guitar loop live after laying the riff down (ideal for a filter or something) The rc505 is the beast mode version but I myself have only used the 202. I have it on my desktop aside everything else, and a fs6 foot switch to start and stop my bass recording. ;)
Now that's a great idea! Thanks for the detailed rundown :) I'm looking to get the SP-404 mk2 and accomplish something very similar to what you're describing here.
It would have been nice if these Tascam Model mixers had a HDMI out for sending that small screen to a full sized monitor. I’m sure some electronic guy already made an out for it already !
A bit of a newbie question. When using the effects, can you record the track with the effect on? Or are the effects relegated to all tracks and not actually on the track but only for a final mix? Not sure if I am wording this correctly - if I wanted a delay on a vocal and just a reverb on a guitar can that be done?
The effects are only sent to the master output and recorded on the stereo mixdown. When you record individual tracks, they will be recorded dry, even if effects were applied to it. You can't have different effects per track, either. You select an effect that will be song-wide and then decide how much of it to apply to each track. Here's the full list of effects: 1. HALL1 (default), 2. HALL2, 3. ROOM1, 4. ROOM2, 5. PLATE, 6. STUDIO, 7. LIVE, 8. DELAY1, 9. DELAY2, 10. PING PONG, 11. CHORUS, 12. FLANGER, 13. DELAY+HALL1, 14. DELAY+HALL2, 15. CHORUS+HALL1, 16. CHORUS+HALL2 I don't ever use the effects on it, I think they're there just to sort of simulate what your final mix might sound like, or to do some minimal tweaking when playing live.
@@pabloarellano7359 It looks like the Livetrak does have EQ, you just need to select the channel and mess with the shared EQ, but the settings are saved per channel
@@nedogled thanks for the explanation... Im searching for a multitrack for myself and I think the Tascam Model12 worth those extra $$$... at least for my workflow... nice videos btw and keep doing it!!!
@@pabloarellano7359 Thanks! My overall conclusion is that the Livetrak is more suited for recording a live band (it also had a couple of headphone outs), while the Tascam Model series is better suited for synth-based setups and one-person projects.
Yes, you've got the multiracks recorded to an SD card and you can either record over some or all of the tracks, and you can even set 'punch in' points, or simply record after the initial recording and keep adding to that at the end.
I'm not sure, as I've never recorded to a DAW, I just record to the SD card and I don't use the effects. Check page 41 of the manual, you might find some answers there.
Hmm are you hearing the effects during the playback? I've never actually used the effects on the Model 12, as I'm using effects on the individual instruments I'm recording.
i think you just use the fx once the tracks are in the daw. the only other way is to send the M12 master (tracks 11 & 12) to the daw which will print any effects you have on tracks 1 through 10. the individual tracks 1 - 10 will record dry to the daw to process after in the daw but the stereo master out (11 & 12) will print out any fx you use on the tracks 1 - 10 in the model 12, hope that helps