luvz2spoon Hey, as far as the cops know, the robber came in with two guns. Robber came in waving the 380 and store owner just happened to disarm and shoot him
When you realize “Oh shit, I just shot some robber with my illegal gun”, it’s always a good sign when the only witness says calmly “Did you get him?”, and as you leave starts beating the body with a metal bar.
Its nice that legitimate people take care of each other. The Puerto Rican store owner acknowleges Travis' will to negate a threat, and Travis relies on him not to make a "complete" police report. Wonder if those crowbar wounds obliterated the gunshot wound?
@@shanefelkel9966 The point of the crowbar was to cover his story. He attacked the robber with a crowbar and was able to disarm the robber and shoot him with his own gun. Easy, simple.
Yeah but when you were using them, you were doing it unhealthily by the sound of it, social media is an extremely helpful tool if you use it as just that
That article said absolutely nothing of value, the person you're taking your information from was fired over cocaine charges before the website was even 0.01% of what it is today, additionally, he wasn't even saying anything conclusive, all of his accusations had "probably" in them indicating that he doesn't have any real idea at all. I understand what you're trying to say, if you get sucked in then you will lose interactivity in the real world due to time being taken up by social media, but these EXACT predictions were being made with the introduction of the Radio, and then again with the Television, and it probably even happened when Video Games were becoming a big hit. It's happened with exploitative music throughout every decade. People who have no idea needlessly fearmonger these products / movements because they are scared of what the future might bring if it doesn't go way. Get ahead of the curve and figure out what you're talking about and then maybe your irrational fear/hatred will subside.
I actually don't spend egregious amounts of time on social media at all, I just find it really funny how you disregarded everything I said because you know you have no retort to it.
The score thus far: Me - 45. Charles Ferdinand - 1 (assuming, of course, that Charles Ferdinand DIDN'T vote for himself, which is highly unlikely.) Sorry, Charlie--better luck next time!
Could Charles be a bigger film snob cliche? Don't compliment the movie, or else you'll be cut down for doing so, worse than someone who knows nothing about it. Hm, that makes sense.
@Seedless I would too. I'm a vet. I totally get it. It's unfortunate that states have so much control over gun laws that it's more trouble for the gun owner than a thug robbing a place that would kill you in a heartbeat.
@@TealKuruma I suppose it looks good when viewing through a screen but I also think it would be different if your life was at risk just being in the area
Yeah I remember my grandpa telling me that during the 50's, 60's, when people were moving from Chicago, NY, etc. to the West coast, when they arrived it was like going to a different country, much better quality of life everybody had their own house with a big yard and wide streets, not the claustrophobic poverty of the east coast urban centers. Things have changed ofc, the 50's and 60's were the pinnacle of US society tbh When my family came from Scotland in the late 1800's there was a lot of poverty too, and NY or Chicago actually look a lot like the UK cities of that era, also with poverty
The Instructor in my CPL and defense pistol course showed this scene and other realistic movie clips to use to give small points to the class. He wanted the people to know that in reality if you ever found yourself in this type of frightening situation and actually used your weapon, this is what would more then likely happen. You would not get into a “John Wick” shootout, but unromantically catch a criminal off guard or pulled your weapon without them knowing and put them down if it unfortunate enough to happen to you. He wanted the class to understand that learning to defend ourselves was brutal violence that needed to be realized, admitted and trained for, not an action movie to fantasize about.
You can't break a man the way you do a dog or a horse, the harder you beat a man, the taller he stands. To break a man's will, to break his spirit, you have to break his mind. Men have this idea that we can fight with dignity, that there's a proper way to kill someone. It's absurd, its aesthetic, we need it to endure the bloody horror of murder. You must destroy that idea, show them what a messy horrible thing it is to kill a man, and then show them that you relish in it. Shoot the wound, and then execute the wounded, burn them, take them in close combat. Destroy their preconceptions of what a man is and become their personal monster. When they fear you, you become stronger, you become better. But let's never forget, it's a display, it's a posture, like a lions roar, or a gorilla thumping at his chest. If you lose yourself in the display, if you succumb to the horror, then you become the monster. You become reduced, not more than a man, but less. And it could be fatal
GOOD scene! Haha my favorite part is how the shopkeeper is so grateful for Travis, that he is just like "just get out of here, I'll handle the police." Especially since Travis was carrying guns that were technically illegal since he didn't have a permit... If this was real life and not a movie, this would be the start of a long lasting and close friendship between Travis and the clerk!
But the shopkeeper is misinterpreting the Scripture regarding how to respond when someone (eg., the robber) wrongs him. When the storekeeper is to turn the "other" cheek, it means HIS OWN cheek, not the robber's.
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For all those wondering why he is beating a dead man: he is making it look like he fought back by breaking his ribs. Based on all of the replies I will explain it in depth. Travis gun is probably hot(like all of easy Andy’s merchandise). If the owner had a gun or permit why didn’t he ever pull it. The store owner is going to tell police Travis’s gun belonged to the robber. The store owner will hide the robbers actual weapon(that was never used) and dispose of it later. When the police show up they have 1 gun and 1 body on the scene. Store owner will claim he disarmed the man and then managed to get the robbers gun and use it against him.
No, although I think this was a pretty cool analysis and believed it until I saw the movie again. Here’s why, at the end of the scene he takes Travis’s gun, so he plans to tell the cops he used the firearm in self defense and unlike Travis being a store owner he likely already has a permit. The beating is pure anger and frustration, he says “That’s the third guy this month, maricon!” No bs though I think it was a cool analysis and I enjoy when folks try and answer these questions in movies.
@@AgrippaMaxentius would that fly, though? Because after Travis shot him, the robber flew back and knocked all kinds of shit off the counter. Which obviously wouldn't happen if the robber was shot by the guy behind the counter.
It's unbelievable how Scorsese creates so much tension in just 20-30 secs, without ANY sort of editing or camera angles. The atmosphere is created only using the voices of the actors off-screen, and De Niro's body language. The entire thing is unbroken right from when Travis enters the store to when he finally decides to pull out the gun....just incredible. If this were directed by Nolan or Snyder, we'd have tons of close-ups, internal monologues, unnecessary slowmo and dumb expositional dialogue from everyone. This movie is almost 50yrs old and still feels so fresh each time you watch it.
Thank God I’m not the only one turned off by Snyder’s whiney bs. Like yes I need 4 hours of my life taken because you need to have a thousand snow mod, close ups and emo dialogue LMAO
Joe L That is definitely a factor, true, but in context of the movie, you feel that Travis had been itching for a way to let go of his hatred. And he got it. But he had no idea what to do afterwards.
I think that’s actually pretty smart, so if the gun misfire while the robber dies, it won’t hit the store owner which is a risk if Travis shot him in the back
Part of the reason I loved this movie was the attention to detail and ordinary life. Don't know whose idea it was (DeNiro....the director.....in the script) but what caught my eye in the beginning was Travis feeling the cartons of milk to see which one was coldest. I've done that many times in a convenience store with a refrigeration set-up like that. You have to find one that has been around for a long time as the chain stores now all have the ones with doors that you open but back then that's how they did it and things will not all equally cold.
I remember how shocking to my senses the violence in this scene was for me the first time I saw it (I was probably about 15). The actor really looked like a ragdoll of a corpse; no frills or even stylistic blood spatter. Scorsese's direction of violence is part of the reason I was really drawn to his cinema verite style. I feel like he is obsessed with the horror of reality and he wouldn't ever want to censor it.
Cookie K nah horror movies over exaggerate everything to the point to where we’re reminded that it’s fake, but this scene just seemed more casual like it would be in real life. That’s why it just feels more shocking
@@cookiek7567 back then movies and stuff didnt have a lot of violence and gore shown. Today we are de-sensitized to it but back then i'd imagine it woulda been a shocker to see
The actor did a great job. He even slumps over when the store owner tries to lift him up, totally limp. Doesn't look like a very comfortable position either, so he was committed.
tell me, friend, u think is right to kill someone just for robbing a store? i assume that yes, ok, did u saw the same movie that i saw? because u missed the point by far
@@seandelaney4421 I say that in all the comment section it's plenty of people who are just saying that Travis acted right here and thinking this is justice. I just think that that's fucking sick. Sorry about my english I'm from Spain
A gorgeously shot film about the dirty, dark gritty heart of old New York and the limits to which the human mind can be pushed to. I watched this as a disgruntled teenager and fell in love with the way Robert de Niro completely transforms into all the characters he portrays. I just got finished rewatching Casino which is very enjoyable, but for me Taxi Driver is the OG film and reminds me always why I love the Scorsese/de Niro partnership so much in the first place
Reason I love Scorsese’s films is cause the violence is way too realistic in most his films. The guy got shot but there’s not a big pool of blood. That’s how a lot of shootings go. Then when the cashier gave those blows it sounded brutal as hell. Scorsese definitely shows the ugly side of humanity perfectly without making it too revolting.
Too revolving? Have you seen Goodfellas and casino😅 it's like a horror movie. Pops the guys eye out...the baseball bat beating... Batts beat down then stabbed 5 times then shot. Marty over does the gore and violence in his mob movies...it's disgusting and unnecessary. Sometimes he does it right like in this scene.
@@ProfessorKenneth Except that most of those scenes were based off of real mafia/mafia-related murders, so no it's really not over the top. If anything, the real murders were more graphic and disturbing.
I don't know what would scare me more.. The dude trying to rob the store, or the store owner seemingly knowing exactly what to do as if he's capped people trying to rob him before in the past
I like how in this scene where he says “hey...hey” and shoots the guy, to me it really fits with his whole cowboy demeanour in the way of saying a good man never shoots another in the back
It took me a minute to work this out, but it's not a bad plan - 1. The robber gets shot in the face by Travis. 2. The clerk takes Travis' gun. "I'll take care of it." 3. According to the police report, the clerk attacks him with a crowbar in a last-ditch self defense effort. 4. According to the police report, the clerk grabs the gun the robber was wielding as he's lying on the floor (Travis' gun). 5. The robber pulls out a "second gun" when the clerk turns his back for a second. 6. "Yeah, man, he pulled another gun on me, I had no choice." 7. According to the police report, the clerk shot him in the face. 8. The bullet matches.
But the gun is illegally owned and the iron wounds are unnecessary. I think he just got rid of the body no police report and kept the gun Incase and because Travis put him in this situation.
that shopkeeper was cool,he was probably pissed off after being held up many times before so he was glad to see the robber shot and then beats his corpse,New york seems appealingly sleazy in this movie.
You guys keep DeBlasio in power for another term, it'll start looking like this again by his 6th or 7th year. It took a long time for Guiliani to clean up NY, but it didn't take long for his predecessors to turn it into a shit hole.
These grungy 60s and 70s movies that depict the chaotic anger that the world was in always seemed like it must have been some unique circumstance i will never understand being born in the 80s. Now i see why they called these "dark times" people can collectivley just become this weird over time. You see a lot of weird hate and crime going on these days. It was dark times. And were back in them. Bizarre.
it's incredible how accurate this scene is when most movies, even nowadays, show the whole over dramatic falling down or the person that got shot still able to talk and all. Just 1 shot and done. Most gun fights are over with just 2-3 shots and when people get shot, they just fall down like a rag doll like the one here.
There are two sides at this. Usually shots in the head can instantly kill you or knock you out from the vibration. But in the torso it's a different story. There are people who have survived like 17 bullets to the torso.
I gotta say it’s really nice to see the community helping each other. The store owner clearly knows Travis and appreciates his help. Putting aside cameras and DNA, how many local store owners have that loyal of a customer base?
Travis barely even seems phased that he might get caught with an illegal weapon after killing a man. He’s like “oh crap I forgot I had an illegal gun. 😐”
I just watched this movie yesterday. It made me realize that nothing in humanity has changed except our technology and even that is just an easier to use version of what we already have.
One of my favorite scenes of the movie; just one of those 'feel good scenes'... I can watch it over...and over...and over again...and never tire of it...
This is a very realistic scene. It all happened so fast. Perp was shot in the face and bullet probably went into his brain stem which is insta death. Usually people die much more slower from gunshots than movies depict, but looking at the wound on the guys face, they wouldn’t be the case here.
You know how in most movies in a situation like this, the protagonist would walk up behind the robber, maybe dissarm him like a badass action hero, then have some shitty quip about it? Not here. Just immediately gets put down like a dog.
"Today's video, friends, comes from NYC, we're going to learn important lessons about situational awareness, acting as a bystander in a third-party encounter, about staging a counter-ambush, and very importantly, on marksmanship.. We see this young man entering this convenience store, minding his own business, buying his milk or something like that, everything's perfectly normal up to this point..."
If anyone questions the weird act by the clerk. He wanted to make it look like he beat the robber and was able to get the gun away from him and shoot him with his own gun. He also took Travis gun because it was the one that was used and can say it was just him and the robber, keeping Travis name out of the whole situation.
@@JamesBond77 Travis baited him out to do that with the soft "hey, hey". Of course he's gonna turn around. Could've said dont move or I shoot, like cops do. This scene is showing Travis's moral downfall. He's been urging to shoot a black guy the whole movie.
Those weren't cartons, those were glass bottles with Styrofoam labels. Back then, Pepsi came in all glass bottles. The top two shelves shown here were 16oz glass and 12 oz can singles, also looks like a few 8 oz random bottles which came out of six packs (weren't supposed to sell them individually, but everyone did.) The third shelf is empty, but that's usually where they put the shorty 10 oz glass bottles. The fourth shelf is 1 liter bottles, the bottom shelf is 40oz bottles. Stores like this typically didn't have 2 liter bottles, you had to get those at the supermarket. Pepsi bottles were better than Coke bottles because of the Styrofoam labels, which gave them a little bit of cushion in case they were dropped. They also acted sort of like an insulator, keeping the bottle cold and giving you a better grip than wet glass. I started stocking shelves the year this was filmed, and I much preferred putting up the Pepsi over Coke products. Over time the Styrofoam labels got thinner and thinner until they were as thin as paper, but by then everything pretty much went to plastic. Biggest problem wasn't people dropping glass bottles, it was bottles randomly exploding. If somebody set the bottle down too hard, the pressure would build up for hours until it just blew up, coating everything in a mist of sticky soda. One woman was walking by the Shasta/RC section one night when one went off and got a faceful of glass, and had to go to the hospital. That's why I think little grocery/convenience stores like this didn't carry 2 liters, as those were the only ones blowing up. Something to do with the size I think. If anyone remembers the earliest plastic 2 liter bottles, they all had black rings of plastic at the bottom with little holes, in case you dropped it or set it down too hard. Instead of exploding, the pressure would shoot through those vent holes, away from your face toward the floor. I guess modern plastic is stronger and they don't need that anymore.
What stands out for me is De Niro's truthful behavior when he goes to the cooler--it is indicative of really good acting: he selects a drink only after feeling the containers for the coldest one.
@Benny Alv Yeah, I suppose. You know, sometimes I think it's a shame guns were outlawed in my country (Britain), because you have thuggish pieces of shit raiding shops and depriving honest hard working people of their livelihoods
Man In Water...The ONLY crime that there is, is the crime of THEFT. All crime is a form of THEFT. When you murder a man you steal their life. You steal a husband from a wife, a son from a mother, and a father from his children. When a thief steals or damages a man's property, he takes a piece of that man's LIFE...The time and the sweat it took him to earn that property is a piece of his LIFE. The second amendment permits men to DEFEND THEIR LIVES from being taken by THIEVES.
0532MOET so someone sticks a gun in your face to rob you.... and you wouldn't want them to be murdered? ok I guess ill believe that... but lets say it wasn't your snowflake ass this time and it was maybe your mother would you want the person shot then?
Why do some people hate robbers more than rapists and murderers? Is this a yank thing because they love money so much or just a really really stupid person thing?
0532MOET I dunno, your gonna have to ask those people since no one here is comparing armed robbers to rapists and murderers. Do you honestly believe you hold moral highground because you (hypothetically) wouldn't be ok with killing someone who's robbing you/a family member/a friend at gunpoint? It's pretty obvious you've never been in a fight or flight situation before. I seriously hope you find yourself in this situation someday so you can either grow a pair of balls and realize your talking out of your ass or so you can get yourself filtered out of the gene pool.
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc From what I've read, it did shock people. Just not for him killing a black dude. It shocked people more because of the over the top violence in general.
In the original script, the gang of pimps that Travis kills at the end were all black as well. Scorcese thought it was a bit too much so he changed it.
Yes I understand that many people who commit crime are victims of socioeconomiclly deprived backgrounds but that doesn't justify anyone preying on others. Everyone is still accountable for their actions.
Jcurvs99 never said it was illegal. the 911 operater also told that low life to stop following the kid. if someone was following you around with a gun i wonder what your reaction would be.
First of all the gun was concealed by the time Trayvon knew he had a gun he was singing kumbaya with Jesus. Secondly where I live everyone knows you don't go walking into neighborhoods you don't live in unless you're looking for a problem. Thirdly why the fuck was he even in this upscale neighborhood that was not even near his home or on the way to his home. I thought he just went to get some "skittles" why was he doing a marathon walk.
