Taxonomy in Pikmin 

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I'd love to see Pikmin get the After Man treatment

If people could make a documentary about bokoblins from the perspective of a Hyrulean in BoTW, a Pikmin documentary should definitely be made

Someone wants to help? We can make this real!

I mean that is basically what the first Pikmin commercial was

Pikmin's director Shigefumi Hino said that he got inspired by its photograph of wildlife

I tried to taxonomy subnautica

perhaps blowhogs split off very, very far back down the line and just havent changed much, or else maybe the floating ones have hollow bones like birds?

@@haymyellow1880 Not hollow bones, but close to none at all, since the aim is to be as buoyant as possible in air. Maybe there's one really simple structure like tarantulas have. Splitting a long time ago makes sense though, yeah.

Perhaps it's convergent evolution and they aren't that closely related at all, just both have developed a blow-snout

@@smileyp4535 Yeah this is a really good answer, idk why I wrote it off. We have to consider that Olimar isn't actually a biologist as well, his claims really could be little more than pure conjecture.

I'd assume that the floating blowhog variants simply have very thin and light skeletons, so they can use their flippers to hover but can be weighed down by pikmin.

Not to burst your bubble but "BAT" is in the name

@@bigcoffinhunter5500 what is a Mountain Chicken?

@@Burgorton Leptodactylus fallax

@@bigcoffinhunter5500 ok so is that a chicken?

@Burgorton that's a really bad argument because its alternative name is "the Giant Ditch Frog". The entire reason it's named the mountain chicken is because locals report it tasting like chicken. Frogs also don't have tails. Tadpoles have tails, but the premature phosbats do not have tails. The phosbat also has two sets of teeth. Amphibians only have one set of teeth on the roof of their mouths.

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Phosbats also don't reproduce like normal mammals. They're weird. They lay "egg pods" for lack of a better name. The pods just seem to spit out offspring periodically, which is weird from a realistic perspective.

@@lasercraft32 amphibians do stuff, kinda like that with their egg sacks, with their offspring, springing out when danger is awry. It would also make sense with how different their wings are compared to bats.

I think they complex eyes is just impossible for evolution of snails to replicate, octopus have eyes, but they’re nowhere as complex as a grub dogs, where they basically have the same anatomy as a mammal for there eyes, the crushblats just appeared to be more on land amphibians, as they’re shown around water and they resemble frogs. Lastly, it is never stated the emperor is an actual normal grub dog, it is only called “bulblax” because that’s just the monicker for a strong grub dog, the Empress is a strong, grub dog, and is so given the nickname “bulblax” so the emperor is its own species, and the Empress and larva are the same as the standard bulborb. One interesting thing to note is that every juvenile grub dog looks practically the same in the second and first moult. (Moults basically make it things way more complicated as snails don’t even moult and nor do mammals) so I’m willing to assume they’re their own family that branched off of mammals. As a reason for them having complex structures like eyes and hair. Just wanted to clear some stuff up.

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I believe the bulbmin are real young bulborbs, even if they are under the control of the parasitic pikmin

In Pikmin 2 during one of the Empress Bulblax fights it constantly gives birth to larval Bulborbs, which would be juvenile Bulborbs. But if you mean juveniles that actually walk then I have good news, because in one of the trailers for Pikmin 4 we can see what looks like a larval Bulborb standing on two legs, so in Pikmin 4 we'll probably see more juvenile Bulborbs. And speaking of Bulbmin, because we see small Bulbmin that are clearly the offspring of the big Bulbmin, I think I have a theory on the lifestyle of your average Bulborb. Okay so Bulborbs are birthed by the Empress Bulblax, they're at this moment in their larval stage, where they just crawl around and eat whatever they can find, and probably also their siblings. Then after a while they go trough a metamorphosis where they grow legs, like a frog, but they haven't developped their classic spotty look, so let's call this the juvenile phase, they can now go to the surface but only at night, we'll get back to that later. Then after some time passes they get their spotty look, at which they've entered the adolescent phase, and they now can somewhat safely go to the surface, again we'll come back to that. Finally once they're the big guys we know them as they're in the adult phase, where they sleep through the day and eat at night. Allright so now that whole night and surface thing. When Bulborbs are born they're really pale and larvea, so being in the sun would probably burn them to death, and because they can't run they'll be easy pickings for all the other creatures. Once they grow legs they can probably safely go onto the surface because now they can run away from danger, but still have to go underground to be safe from the sun, since they haven't developped the protective spotty hide. Once that hide comes in they can be safe on the surface during the day, but they aren't completely safe because they're still small, and if we go off the fact that all the tiny Bulborbs and Bulbears die if you throw a singular Pikmin on them, then it could be argued that the same thing would happen to these adolescent Bulborbs. So they either stay close to an adult Bulborb like we see with Bulbmin, or they only come out at night when it's safer for them. Only when they're big enough to not get squashed by a singular Pikmin is when they stay on the surface full time. Now onto Bulbmin. My theory is that Bulborbs work in a similar was a Clownfish do, as in once the dominant female dies the dominant male next in line will turn into a female, so when an Empress Bulblax dies the next male Bulborb will transform into an Empress Bulblax. Because these are fictional alien creatures we can say that Bulborbs have both working male and female reproduction organs, and that the female organs go into overdrive once an Empress Bulblax dies and needs to be replaced. So the parasitic Pikmin inside the Bulbmin probably activate those organs to create Bulbmin offspring, but not to the extent that the host turns into an Empress Bulblax because that would make them an giant defenseless target, I mean why else are Empress Bulblaxes fought in giant empty rooms? Because there's nothing there to pose a threat to the Empress Bulblax. Anyways, because those organs don't go into overdrive the Bulbmin is only able to create 10 or so offspring instead of the endless horde the Empress Bulblax makes. So because it isn't endless the adult Bulbmin makes sure that the juvenile Bulbmin keep following the adult, because that way it can then keep the little ones safe and make it to adulthood.

@@brem- I ain’t reading all that lmao I just meant like young grub dogs.

@@lilorangefella TL;DR Pikmin 2: larval Bulborbs Pikmin 4: maybe young Bulborb without spotty hide

Actual juveniles seem to be almost entirely subterranean, likely reaching the surface nearly fully grown, or at least mature very quickly. The adult bulborbs seem to essentially pay the breadbug mimics no mind, like they’re nearly invisible to them.

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I think it’s most likely that there are just different types of empresses for different species, since the whip tongue basically confirm that every second molt looks the same (besides the bulbear but they’re have more parental instinct than any other grub dog)

@빨간 피크민 I was joking

Big problem is that they moult, which basically shatters the mammal and snail idea basically. so I believe that they are descended from mammals, but they’re their own family just descended from mammals as why they have complex eyes and hair.

I think it’s most likely on why all the wildlife is small, they have all become small to survive the radiation, or the radiation has affected the oxygen levels so much that the 3 foot tall Mireclops moves like an elephant despite being relatively small compare to a deer.

I doubt it, there are many animals that only have four or two legs. There’s some birds that actually completely lost their wings and are just straight up two legged. Grub dogs, not needing arms for scavenging or eating, and they could stand up using their legs probably just made them slowly overtime lose their arms.

@@Manny4Life948 IRL almost all tetrapods (basically, non-fish vertebrates) have 4 total limbs, including us. the exceptions are snakes, burrowing lizards that are functionally snakes, and cetaceans. short list, that. almost all tetrapods have at least a vestigial tail, too. losing limbs completely basically NEVER happens, other than when a creature changes the medium through which it moves, to one where the additional limbs are actively detrimental. you aren't getting a land tetrapod with only two limbs except by a permanently airborne or aquatic tetrapod that lost them prior, coming back to land.

@@dualinfinities5549 that actually sparked the idea in my head, water dumples came first before the rest of the family?

That’s his custom goo pikmin. (Tell me if the joke flew over my head and I corrected you because I thought you didn’t know what it was)

Phosbat to me, at least seem to be a amphibians, due to their egg sacks, releasing their babies on their own, and the slimy skin (plus the wings not resembling anything like a bat) Grub dogs moult, so they can’t be mammals or snails, unless you’re saying mammals adapted to molt, which at that point means that’s a new type of family. So I say grub dogs are in their own family, descended for mammals (on why they have hair and complex eyes) but also being their own thing. Sort of like birds and dinosaurs.

"Sus" is a scientific name meaning" pig".

@@meli-melo9759 I am aware, but it is also an internet funni

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I said this numerous times on other comments, they molt (snails, which is the closest example to a grub dog can’t moult) and they have complex eyes, and they have hair. basically, it’s most likely they’re just descendants of mammals due to all those traits.

I’m guessing why the classifications were so bad were because how the game was rushed because Miyamoto wanted to quickly follow the Pikmin craze.

The issue is that they moult, snails nor mammals actually moult, and because they’re very complex eyes that only mammals have plus hair. I think it’s most likely that they’re descended from mammals, but are in their own family, the eye stocks was probably an evolution for greater visual range with their eyes.

I doubt, mostly just coincidence due to no way they’re related to how many legs it has. I think it’s a mammal due to the eyes and mouth, so I doubt it’s closer related to the amphibian crushBlat.

Possibly, although I feel like it’s convergent evolution with how their wings work.