Note: the drogue got caught up behind our rudder in the middle of the storm.... Alan had to step on the back (20 cm) of our boat and pull the line with his bare hands to get it loose and connect it again.
I’m amazed the weight of your gigantic balls didn’t drag you to the bottom here Cheers to you for maintaining your calm and pressing onward (even if that’s the only thing to do) I haven’t sailed in those conditions yet and I intend to avoid them at as best I can but I hope I do the right things if I am in it
Great footage, must have been a worrisome moment! Letting the drogue further out would have allowed a softer ride, all good experience even from behind a desk!
Thanks for posting the video...never had to use our drogue... wondering about how often you had the "oh oh" moment with what appears to be a breaker hitting you from your starboard quarter ?
Well I guess we had those 'oh oh' moments every 5 - 10 minutes for 2 hours. Some not bad at all and some quite rough. But the drogue could handle it and we weren't scared to role over. Even though we had gales up to 56 knots. The drogue went around our last rudder once... That was our biggest challenge.
@@JannekeBrouwer87do you have any idea how that happened.. was there some spring back from the JSD that allowed enough slack to go under the rudder.. Also.. how did you free it, or did it free itself?
Me too ,in big seas strong winds abow 50 knts a parachute does wonders at sea,but set up is not easy ,a drogue it was more likely used of the stern to slow down the ship in running seas ,but your idea set up ,yup why untill the wawes reach a certain high!when those roller coaster freak wawes hit you side ways your boat is in danger ,to be rolled over!
There are several important reasons why it is off the stern, not the bow. - Safer to deploy. Conditions will be very rough to consider deploying JSD. The Bow is less safe to deploy from - Most yacht bows are fine and narrow with less buoyant volume than the stern. The Bow would tend to be dragged in to the wave, where the stern will tend to ride over it. - the JSD acts like a big shock absorber, so a boat will tend to start surfing momentarily on a steep or breaking wave then the progressive force of the JSD will stop it gently like a big Bungy Cord and allow the wave to pass by. If you had deployed from the Bow, the boat will start to surf backwards on the wave. Rudders are NOT designed to surf backwards, and will be violently forced to hard lock, making the boat veer sideways on a wave.. and possibly snap the rudder stock if violent enough. - The Bridal Y type attachment to port and starboard sides of transom is better at keeping the boat aligned with the wind & waves,
In big seas Parachute Anchors have been known to pull out of the face of a wave when the wave frequency or period matches the rode length. That is dangerous and the JSD won't do that
@andrewwilson1835 thanks for that with your explanation it makes a lot more sense I just assumed that boats were designed to face the waves and that is why you set a sea anchor accordingly
@@JannekeBrouwer87 have you tried to put a thin line atached to the begining of the droge line? Then you pull this litle line in, so the droge does not take water as you are pulling in onboard. I never tried it, but sounds like it could work.
@@marianoschaller9066 I wouldn't do that. Getting it in was just half an hour work with a winch. Another thin line connecting to the jsd would be tangled and make the drogue loose its strength / the chances to failure would be bigger. I would never connect another line to the drogue.
@@marianoschaller9066the only issue I've heard of with trip lines or recovery lines is the risk of entanglement and the Drogue not working as designed.. I would rather suffer the 1/2hr recovery than risk the entanglement issues.
Well we were 'unlucky' to end up in this storm, and I would never try to find a storm like this. But I would definitely try to go around Cape horn again or sail any other oceans if I would get the chance. Unfortunately I can't afford my own boat yet. If someone needs a crewmember... Send me an email at brouwerjanneke@live.com. :)
@@stevejackson2694 sounds great! I wish you all the best with preparing and finding the right boat :) and don't hesitate to contact me if you like help or advice
I have to say I like storms since I was a small girl and I would rather die because of a storm like this than bacause of sitting at the couch at home. At least I had a life in which I did what I love. To go around cape Horn will probably always get you into 2 or 3 storms and this will get more and stronger (because the ocean gets warmer). I'll advise you to try asap.
Given that you say 20% of Parachutes were ripped, do you think there is a better material for this, or the mini chutes needed better hemming, stitching, or webbing attachment to central rode?
The early advice was to make them out of ripstop nylon without a hem but a lot of users reported frayed/damaged cones. Latest advice is to make them out of dacron with a taped hem on both the leading and trailing edges of the cones and apparently this solves the durability issue. Also some are using dyneema rope which obviously has big advantages in weight and storage, but getting a dyneema JSD back into the boat needs to be thought through
not from the look of it no, it seems to be deployed correctly on a bridle. What it looks like may be happening is that it the length of scope is occasionally falling out of sync with the sea state, not an entirely preventable occurrence in those conditions, especially seeing that there is at least a mild cross set to the seas. which would make them fairly unpredictable in height, period, and direction. The line doesn't appear to be coming dangerously tight in the surges either which is also good... well for a given value of good anyway.
Is was sloop Taya. She's at the bottom of the ocean now. We lost 2 rudders (aluminum boat, in the salt water for 7 years) and we're saved by a freighter. Read stories at www.dejongebrouwer.com
I've never encountered more than 6bft on the North sea. The waves were impressive. On video, they look like nothing. Waves don't impress much on video. Image how this waves looked in real life.... oh boy.
Alan Cresswell added the full chain that they delivered with the drogue. We put it out the evening before the storm came and removed the drogue the next morning. 20%of the small parachutes needed to be replaced
A drogue anchor is used when anchoring a ship in deep water and prevents the ship from capsizing to port or starboard due to strong winds and large waves.
