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@robyngwendolynshiloh5277
@robyngwendolynshiloh5277 8 месяцев назад
Can Tayam still win? Yes. Can Tayams owner win the game? No
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 8 месяцев назад
Hippity hoppity, your wincon is now my property.
@TripsAhoy
@TripsAhoy 8 месяцев назад
Hahaha nice!
@kevinsimmons5343
@kevinsimmons5343 8 месяцев назад
The perfect comment doesn’t exis……..
@connorl0204
@connorl0204 8 месяцев назад
I was expecting that to be a reference to the praetors grasp. Lol
@TheGrifcannon22
@TheGrifcannon22 8 месяцев назад
Dang, maybe Kinnan should try running Hexdrinker and Tayam.
@lucashoward-smith9537
@lucashoward-smith9537 8 месяцев назад
As a tayam player I want to know why Nabeel didn’t tutor for Skyclave Apparition in response to the guilded drake trigger, (with the vamp tutor they played) as then Mike wouldn’t have stolen their commander. The only reason I can think of is that they had it in their hand, but could have instead gotten lions eye diamond to discard it. UNLESS THEY HAD THAT IN THEIR HAND TOO WHICH I WOULD FIND INCREDIBLY INFURIATING.
@koanos2448
@koanos2448 8 месяцев назад
"I want Tayam to win!" A counter has been removed from Wishclaw Talisman...
@mikeb9583532
@mikeb9583532 8 месяцев назад
Why did Tayam tutor for hexdrinker instead of something to protect Tayam?
@YhanNogueira
@YhanNogueira 8 месяцев назад
When i saw he casting vamp tutor, i thought "he goes for Sylvan Safekeeper here".
@markscruggs8346
@markscruggs8346 8 месяцев назад
Yeah that made no sense to me either
@TNDNBTG
@TNDNBTG 8 месяцев назад
Dudes brain damaged.
@aidangray7087
@aidangray7087 8 месяцев назад
One of Tayam's strengths is the difficulty of interacting with its combos, which makes it particularly strong vs blue/control decks.
@Bennyjackson1
@Bennyjackson1 8 месяцев назад
I don't understand the Tayam player not getting sylvan safekeeping and protecting his tayam
@AlexMartinez-lr9yy
@AlexMartinez-lr9yy 8 месяцев назад
Was looking for this, even has the top deck tutor to find the protection
@djlyko6990
@djlyko6990 8 месяцев назад
Their*
@Putrefax
@Putrefax 8 месяцев назад
Because there was a Yasharn, so you couldn't activate Safekeeper anyway. But Hexdrinker still a bad call.
@mikeb9583532
@mikeb9583532 8 месяцев назад
@@Putrefax yasharn does not stop safekeeper
@Ivantheterrible666
@Ivantheterrible666 7 месяцев назад
Watching this game was like watching a 15 year old wreck their own vehicle on a driver's license exam.
@nathanburke5756
@nathanburke5756 8 месяцев назад
With Tayam that is a god hand starting out, was it a new pilot? I play Tayam cedh and it wins with a hand like that
@heroic_gamer2108
@heroic_gamer2108 8 месяцев назад
Kinnan is such a powerhouse!
@VzDeath
@VzDeath 8 месяцев назад
I feel like Zack should have recast Collector Ouphe and Nebeal also should've vamp tutored it to the top just so Mike would have to work for that win a bit more. Like they knew Mike was able to get Basalt off tezzeret next turn so why?
@TripsAhoy
@TripsAhoy 8 месяцев назад
And we're back! Nice! ❤❤❤
@andreaslion5877
@andreaslion5877 8 месяцев назад
why didn't nabeel search for sylvan safekeeper in response to the gilded drake, tayam absolutely needs his commander to function
@jamesmorris5151
@jamesmorris5151 7 месяцев назад
The way this played out makes it feel like Game Nights and how scripted their games are, almost as if he knew what card to get but was told "hey get this so this play happens and Kinnan does this and wins"
@xiaolongmartin9366
@xiaolongmartin9366 8 месяцев назад
it seems to me that everyone always forgets to exlie elderitch evolution after it resolves.
@AgelessObsession
@AgelessObsession 8 месяцев назад
Just want to say that Ashani's playmat this game is incredible and I love it.
@giantgrowth4204
@giantgrowth4204 7 месяцев назад
Tonight I won with kinnan. Thras and tezzeret cannot be left alone in this deck . It comes out of no where then bam you get get walking ballista and it’s game. Hold on your counters for your wincon do not interact with other players unless you have to. Either they have the nuts or they don’t.
@dreadgray78
@dreadgray78 8 месяцев назад
Yeah rule of law kinda hands the game to Kinnan if you can’t pair it with other stax pieces
@TheZombieGrunt
@TheZombieGrunt 8 месяцев назад
Welcome back Ryan! 🎉
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 8 месяцев назад
Thank you! I've had a rough run of it this last month!
@TheZombieGrunt
@TheZombieGrunt 8 месяцев назад
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Wishing the best to you and yours.
@marioquezada4036
@marioquezada4036 7 месяцев назад
Beautiful win execution
@jkevinAH
@jkevinAH 8 месяцев назад
that ending was awesome haha
@emarmy00
@emarmy00 8 месяцев назад
very cool!!
@damo9961
@damo9961 8 месяцев назад
Kinnan is good when there are 2 stax decks at the table.
@eliorbilow8797
@eliorbilow8797 8 месяцев назад
Why didn't the Tayam player play Devoted Druid the same turn as they played Wall of Roots? If they had, they would've been infinite with Tayam the next turn. What might have been in their hand that they wanted to keep two mana open for?
@marCHILLL
@marCHILLL 8 месяцев назад
Because of Ethersworn My question is, why is there no Homeward Path in his list, when he has only one form of removal to get Tayam back?
@Qwerty-tk5xr
@Qwerty-tk5xr 8 месяцев назад
@@marCHILLLcommand beacon is usually played over h path since it goes through Drannith, the double utility is useful
@UnuUO
@UnuUO 8 месяцев назад
@@Qwerty-tk5xrim assuming you mean beacon
@djlyko6990
@djlyko6990 8 месяцев назад
​@@marCHILLLthey*
@mikeb9583532
@mikeb9583532 8 месяцев назад
How would they have gone infinite the next turn? They didn’t even have Tayam out yet
@friedpinnapple
@friedpinnapple 8 месяцев назад
Oh my god i am dying from that ending
@SkellyBobRoss
@SkellyBobRoss 8 месяцев назад
As an Avid Tayam player. I am excited.
@Ivantheterrible666
@Ivantheterrible666 7 месяцев назад
How disappointed were you when you watched this and realized the pilot had no clue how to operate the deck?
@tristanbuchheim9856
@tristanbuchheim9856 4 месяца назад
The Tayam player was either a total beginner or really confused. Instead of Hexdrinker he should have gotten Sylvan Safekeeper and given Tayam shroud. It also lets you loop cradle, which he had on board. But his sequencing was already off earlier.
@Just7155
@Just7155 8 месяцев назад
Ok so Tayam had a wincon in hand with Vamp tutor and Devoted Druid. I'm certain this is a new pilot to the deck because there are a lot of mistakes here. Manadrinker is not a good tutor. Wall of Roots is pointless if you have a wincon in hand. Getting Tyvar out would have won the game. All they had to do was play Devoted Druid and a land and they have infinite activations of Tayam. A lot of mistakes but I hope Tayam shows up here again. I love this deck. It's very hard to play so I can see why they don't show it much.
@anthonyi8484
@anthonyi8484 8 месяцев назад
How is that infinite activations? Can’t you only activate wall of roots once a turn?
@carterlarson5647
@carterlarson5647 8 месяцев назад
They are talking about using devoted druid + haste from Tyvar
@mikeb9583532
@mikeb9583532 8 месяцев назад
How is devoted druid + tyvar + a land infinite activations of tayam?
@aR0ttenBANANA
@aR0ttenBANANA 7 месяцев назад
@@mikeb9583532idk about winning on the spot but one certain thing is that ​​⁠​⁠if he gets safekeeper instead of hexdrinker and taps Gaea’s for 3G, takes the counters off Wall of roots, sacrifices Gaea’s and gives Tayam shroud he gets 1 instant speed Tayam activation, keeps his Tayam and has a Safekkeper on the field. So that’s already a flagrant mistake. Plus, we know they had Devoted Druid and Tyvar in hand so if they save Tayam this way an play those on their turn they can try to win on whatever turn as they always have counters on druid, wall and whatever creature they get back from Tayam activation, if they get ANY pump spell for Druid they get infinite activations. They could also get Eternal witness and get whatever instant win they have (chain of smog, silence, tutors so they can choose what creature to mill, etc.)
@mikeb9583532
@mikeb9583532 7 месяцев назад
@@aR0ttenBANANA lol I know all of that… just pointing out that tyvar plus Druid is not a win on the spot like OP said
@bobthor9647
@bobthor9647 5 месяцев назад
Nice
@Zap2x_93
@Zap2x_93 6 месяцев назад
Interesting that Tayam doesnt play Homeward Path, which, helps in all decks susceptible to its commander being stolen.
@Starkipraggy
@Starkipraggy 8 месяцев назад
i'm surprised gilded drake isn't banned considering it just completely hoses any creature based strategy. tayam won, but at what cost??
@jakemaxwell3810
@jakemaxwell3810 8 месяцев назад
It's far from the most broken card in edh and the RC has few bans for power level.
@Starkipraggy
@Starkipraggy 8 месяцев назад
@@jakemaxwell3810 exactly, it's so feels bad to have your commander just stolen away that i'm surprised the RC hasn't banned it, haha.
@jakemaxwell3810
@jakemaxwell3810 8 месяцев назад
@@Starkipraggy There's lots of answers. Removal, counters, hexproof, homeward path, command beacon. Its not too hard to fight and there are few theft cards. Gilded drake is barely even played in casual pods because it's expensive and casual players rarely proxy.
@Starkipraggy
@Starkipraggy 8 месяцев назад
removal is a 1-for-2 since you need to remove your own commander then recast it. Few commanders have hexproof and counters don't exist with sans blue. I dont think that many people play homeward path but i guess yes command beacon is quite common but you're also going down a land drop. the other theft effects are a lot more expensive to be fair. considering the RC playgroup i'm sure more than a few of them own real gilded drakes that they play. im surprised none of them have gotten hosed badly enough to ban it especially when you look at how arbitrary the banlist is.
@jakemaxwell3810
@jakemaxwell3810 8 месяцев назад
@@Starkipraggy This is silly. A single card that is counterplayed in every color and doesn't come close to winning the game or stopping an opponent isn't overbearing. Hexproof doesn't have to be baked on a creature. Every deck that cares about its creatures will have tyvars protection or heroic intervention in green or one of the phasing cards or counters in blue, one of the million protection spells in white like giver or mother, pyroblast or swat in red. The only color that doesn't have great protection from drake is black, which has great removal and every color has access to boots and greaves or homeward path. Even a wipe from any player answers drake. Two for ones are ok in edh.
@KWG-001
@KWG-001 8 месяцев назад
Didnt Tayam recently win an event?
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 8 месяцев назад
It won a few months ago, but has fallen off the map since.
@RagingPoo
@RagingPoo 8 месяцев назад
​@@PlayingWithPowerMTG It consistently makes the top 8
@coltonjudge7823
@coltonjudge7823 7 месяцев назад
Brutal win 😂
@AndyG3173
@AndyG3173 7 месяцев назад
I swear Ashani gets focused down every game even when he can't do anything lol
@cheapshotted
@cheapshotted 8 месяцев назад
Who knew the best Tayam deck was actually Kinnan?
@seangerrity9217
@seangerrity9217 8 месяцев назад
Tata 100% viable in that Kinnan deck!
@xddddddddddddd
@xddddddddddddd 8 месяцев назад
i think the subtitles and early half of graphics needs to be double checked by someone if you guys are gonna do it the automatic way... been so many videos where the render misses the cardback and just shows solid red for whatever reason
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 8 месяцев назад
Those are the sleeves by dragon shield
@manuelcaetano4734
@manuelcaetano4734 5 месяцев назад
Partner pair of Tayam
@felixdecastro
@felixdecastro 8 месяцев назад
Yes, is still viable.... even if your opponents control him
@baamxxv63
@baamxxv63 8 месяцев назад
I need to see more tayam as im trying to learn it and i cant find many players who use it as reference....
@3N3MYKN1GHT
@3N3MYKN1GHT 8 месяцев назад
I don't play two of those cards anymore tayam hates whiffing on activations so any non to the battlefield tutors are out, bit with the pod composition it should have been tutor for crypt/solring, druid, tayam t3, no activation set up could worldly for wor. And have the engine you need but players gonna interact and then you look foolish for keeping a hand like that.
@baamxxv63
@baamxxv63 8 месяцев назад
@@3N3MYKN1GHT which cards if I may ask? And do you have a link to your list?
@PRrrr_neutral
@PRrrr_neutral 8 месяцев назад
Tayam still stronk
@UsableObject
@UsableObject 8 месяцев назад
Why do Kinnan players run thassas oracle...?
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 8 месяцев назад
Because it can go infinite mana, dig for Thrasios and empty out the library to get a Thoracle win. Even if Thoracle comes out first in the Kinnan activations, the player can put the ETB on the stack and keep digging for Thrasios in response.
@InmAncalagon
@InmAncalagon 8 месяцев назад
​@@DarkEinherjar The point is, Thoracle is completely useless in Kinnan. If you have infinite mana (colored mana + Kinnan or colorless + Thrasios), you will win with Finale of Devastation. Alternatively by bouncing all nonlands with Hullbreaker or Cyc Rift, looping the deck with Endurance, making infinite tokens (Swan Song) and possibly destroying all nonbasic lands (Boseiju). Then drop all haymakers, keep a full grip of counters (which you can refill at instant speed) and win next turn. Without infinite mana, Thoracle is a creature with scry on etb which is terrible. Thoracle in Kinnan is bad deckbuilding.
@UsableObject
@UsableObject 8 месяцев назад
@InmAncalagon very well said. Thoracle is an extremely low card quality card that you never want to see in your hand unless you have consult or Pact, and in sans black decks it just lowers your card quality for no upside.
@Aad-xv9fh
@Aad-xv9fh 7 месяцев назад
Tayam is so viable that other decks can win with it!
@paulboulanger00
@paulboulanger00 8 месяцев назад
So not as a dig to anyone else, BUT….Ryans narrative is outstanding, all of the content imo should be done with him doing the play by play. All formats would benefit I think from this. That said keep up the great games!
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 8 месяцев назад
I really appreciate that!
@matthewjohnson3656
@matthewjohnson3656 8 месяцев назад
Exactly this. I can see modern or legacy gameplay anywhere. I can only hear Ryan here
@jakemaxwell3810
@jakemaxwell3810 8 месяцев назад
I respectfully disagree. Ryan's narrative is fine, but player dialogue actually lets you hear what reasoning players are using, sometimes they talk about lines they might have taken, sideboarding choices, mistakes they made. There's a lot of valuable choices discussed that are missed by narration.
@PhoenixRNH
@PhoenixRNH 8 месяцев назад
Hahahahahaha
@ShadowWasntHere8433
@ShadowWasntHere8433 8 месяцев назад
“Can Tayam win the game?” Yes “While looping Moonglove extract?” No, never mind. First thing I cut from mine
@towelociraptor
@towelociraptor 7 месяцев назад
Honest question - why? There are so many ways to get infinite tayam activations and this is the most established wincon to do it. Hell the player in the episode could've made it happen but botched the line
@randomdx1321
@randomdx1321 7 месяцев назад
You should find a way to show people’s hands
@Ivantheterrible666
@Ivantheterrible666 7 месяцев назад
Hexdrinker as a vamp target? What a waste of 10 minutes of my life.
@learntolikeit
@learntolikeit 8 месяцев назад
Arden and Helm of the Host are both at the beginning of combat triggers, so since helm is not attached to anything at that time it would not create anything. Didn't have any outcome of the game though.
@eternaleclypse
@eternaleclypse 8 месяцев назад
Helm still triggers, even if not equipped. Organize the triggers to have Arden's resolve first, attaching to the creature of your choice. Then you are free to resolve the Helm trigger that is now equipped to a creature.
@learntolikeit
@learntolikeit 8 месяцев назад
good to know. thanks.@@eternaleclypse
@dimitriosdoulgeris4659
@dimitriosdoulgeris4659 8 месяцев назад
So technically, Tayam won the game xD. Stealing wincons is just mean.
@davidfrazier4197
@davidfrazier4197 7 месяцев назад
As a tayam player I'm upset that they have the deck to someone who clearly doesn't play tayam.
@ap3x74
@ap3x74 8 месяцев назад
Tayam is such a garbage cedh commander in my opinion. Everytime i play against it, all it does is play a couple mana dorks and before they can get set up the game is usually over. Idk i feel like there can be better options for abzan
@perrypossum
@perrypossum 8 месяцев назад
small nitpick but ideally all or none of the players pronouns should be displayed (while obviously still respecting each players pronouns in the narration). having only them on for non-binary players feels kinda weird
@SuperFlamingTomato
@SuperFlamingTomato 7 месяцев назад
What’s the point in having pronouns only for Nabeel? If you’re going to do pronouns you should do it for everyone.
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 7 месяцев назад
For clarity. Nabeel had they/them pronouns and we didn’t want confusion from a narration standpoint. We aren’t trying to offend anyone here. Sorry if it came off that way.
@SuperFlamingTomato
@SuperFlamingTomato 7 месяцев назад
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG That's fine, but using pronouns for one person in particular is somewhat odd. If you're going to use them (and its good that you are) you should have them for everyone, so it doesn't feel like the default is not trans. It'd be like adding she/her pronouns for a woman on the channel, without using any pronouns for anyone else, it would come off like he/him (or any non she/her) pronouns are default. Dunno if I've explained that correctly. Regardless, I love the content! Just wanna see you all improve.
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 7 месяцев назад
@@SuperFlamingTomato I appreciate the feedback. Like I said, the intent was not to offend. It was to include and clarify. Thank you again for the explanation.
@richardsapingo1828
@richardsapingo1828 8 месяцев назад
Tayam getting crapped on? It is a good day. Deck is overrated asf.
@towelociraptor
@towelociraptor 7 месяцев назад
It's only overrated if the pilot is inexperienced - tons of viewers saw the winning line and this player just botched it
@skatzoheros9
@skatzoheros9 7 месяцев назад
Ι hate thassa's wins but I must admit that was a clever play.
@chiefdragoon9693
@chiefdragoon9693 8 месяцев назад
Technically, Tayam won. LMAO
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