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Tayshia Reveals Why She Can't Say 'I Love You' To Boyfriend John Paul Jones 

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Tayshia Adams and John Paul Jones may have rekindled their romance, but that doesn't mean they're ready for marriage. The "Bachelor in Paradise" stars open up to Access Hollywood about why they have decided to give their relationship another shot. But Tayshia also reveals why she can't tell her new boyfriend she loves him.

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@mywoodencubes
@mywoodencubes 5 лет назад
If they had a show, where they drive around, talk and have fun.. I would love to watch them. I feel like I am gonna miss them :(
@thequeen3834
@thequeen3834 5 лет назад
I love their story so much :( I love the way he makes her laugh so much just by being himself. I can see he will make an amazing husband to her one day I'll miss them :(
@humankaleidoscope4989
@humankaleidoscope4989 5 лет назад
Me too.
@ivdddoxiemama7275
@ivdddoxiemama7275 5 лет назад
Me too. I miss them already!!
@rosiejackson6018
@rosiejackson6018 5 лет назад
I know I am for one!!!! Just maybe every once in a while hopefully once a month at least, they will share some wonderful joyful insites of their journey!! Maybe fb or something lol!!
@annmarieseymour3848
@annmarieseymour3848 5 лет назад
Tayshia loves John Paul; she's just not ready to say it to him, thinks she's afraid of getting hurt!!
@taylorjacks1831
@taylorjacks1831 5 лет назад
Their children will literally be the prettiest most symmetrical beings 😦
@morganking3940
@morganking3940 5 лет назад
Ikr they are perfect. 💗
@miaeba
@miaeba 5 лет назад
they both have small underbites 💜
@humankaleidoscope4989
@humankaleidoscope4989 5 лет назад
@@miaeba Um overbites
@miaeba
@miaeba 5 лет назад
@@humankaleidoscope4989 no under
@humankaleidoscope4989
@humankaleidoscope4989 5 лет назад
@@miaeba no lol she has the most obvious overbite. Most people have at least a little bit of an overbite. It's when the top row of teeth overlap OVER your bottom teeth....
@keepinglifeflowing8392
@keepinglifeflowing8392 5 лет назад
They are so good together. They are both acting maturely. She has gone through a divorce...she is healing through this relationship. JPJ is exactly what she needs. A man who is clear in his intentions and purposeful. When her heart gets there, it will be beautiful.
@angiecerino2529
@angiecerino2529 5 лет назад
Keeping Life Flowing he is so patient with her...I really hope that they are ACTUALLY together 😍😭
@keepinglifeflowing8392
@keepinglifeflowing8392 5 лет назад
Her baby sister has and is currently liking all of his posts. She also raved that she is happy for her sister. Tayshia’s little sister attended the Naval Academy in MD so there have been plenty of opportunities for them to meet up in MD. It sounds that they have good, loyal friends and families who are supportive and who aren’t giving statements to the media or Reality Steve.
@anniebanana3698
@anniebanana3698 5 лет назад
@Keeping Life Flowing I think it must be really hard for her. I can't remember whose podcast I was listening to the other day... maybe Nick Viall's and she was disclosing a few details around the breakdown of her marriage and I think (reading between the lines and piecing together what was said) her ex cheated on her and I think that shook her confidence, as it would anyone. I think it's very healing to have someone like JPJ unabashedly and undeniably proclaim his love for her. That has to feel pretty darn good but also incredibly scary. All that said, I am rooting for these too like crazy. Something about their love restores my faith in love, makes me feel giddy and happy, and I am not sure if I can even pinpoint why other than the fact that they seem to accept each other for who they are, no pretending.
@keepinglifeflowing8392
@keepinglifeflowing8392 5 лет назад
You hit the nail on the head Annie.
@gemarambhajan876
@gemarambhajan876 5 лет назад
Well said
@songyardbird2513
@songyardbird2513 5 лет назад
She is so smart. He is so smart. Who wants dull and boring love? They just might last.
@JulioCZurdo
@JulioCZurdo 5 лет назад
Dont insult my intelligence dereck
@humankaleidoscope4989
@humankaleidoscope4989 5 лет назад
I don't get why people always say they're a weird match. I've always thought they make perfect sense.
@songyardbird2513
@songyardbird2513 5 лет назад
Weird in the over - the hill, traditional sense. Like you look for someone you have things in common with, and then the guy does this, and the woman does that bla, bla,bla - Which imho is total Bullshite and boring..By those standards they ARE weird. Example: She gives off a classy, and intellectual vibe. He is the laid back surfer type of guy just being himself, making jokes and behaving like he would any old day of the week. She is thoughtful and careful when she blabs about things. JPJ, on the other hand, is spontaneous, and doesn't prescript everything he says and does.. Tasha is a bit guarded. They both make very human moves and decisions and each can admit they are not always right about stuff. And there are the ethnic differences which we are all aware of and don't mention! I THINK THEY ARE SO RIGHT! I don't know what will happen but the ride will be FUN. I got my fingers crossed for them.Song
@Animj90
@Animj90 5 лет назад
He sure doesn't sound smart
@ellemap7717
@ellemap7717 5 лет назад
Juicyberryanim he’s a financial analyst. He’s pretty smart
@deergreentea2847
@deergreentea2847 5 лет назад
it’s so cute how she calls him John instead of john paul jones
@Lulu060986
@Lulu060986 5 лет назад
NJOONFAIRY I love that so much too, it’s so cute!
@natalieeubank4533
@natalieeubank4533 5 лет назад
Well it is his name....
@deergreentea2847
@deergreentea2847 5 лет назад
Natalie Eubank im aware..
@summerxo3203
@summerxo3203 5 лет назад
Lol bec john paul jones is too long
@prairiegirl651
@prairiegirl651 5 лет назад
Yes, because using full name is what parents do when they are angry with their child. I love this couple.
@samiapple9889
@samiapple9889 5 лет назад
Wait a second I never believed tayshia when she said JPJ was more intelligent than he seems but like from this interview now I see what she’s talking about
@thefudge0101
@thefudge0101 5 лет назад
Emi Longbottom yeah in a lot of these interviews, he seems pretty normal and articulate.
@estellemu
@estellemu 5 лет назад
Emi Longbottom , Tayshia sees parts of JPJ we don’t see or understand which is sweet
@deboraht5079
@deboraht5079 5 лет назад
Emi Longbottom -- JPJ'S alter ego seems to be a happy go lucky surfer dude beach boy. But he has a responsible job and is intelligent. "Don't judge a book by its cover" seems to be the motto for John Paul.
@FreeTheTrolls
@FreeTheTrolls 5 лет назад
Emi Longbottom he is truly! He was on a podcast, and he’s by far more mature than all of the guys on BIP this year.
@mhauserman
@mhauserman 5 лет назад
I’m mean he’s a successful financial analyst, Incase you couldn’t tell by his house and the state he lives in. Doesn’t get there with stupidity.
@lenadahling
@lenadahling 5 лет назад
Imagine him at 40, little silver, little stubble, with kids - like a fine wine. She snagged a good one. ❤️
@AK-ie2rp
@AK-ie2rp 5 лет назад
JPJ is so hot here wtf i didn’t see it before but hes a very handsome fellow
@kathysmith7432
@kathysmith7432 5 лет назад
I agree, why.
@revellife9787
@revellife9787 5 лет назад
His hair is pulled back that’s a good look
@gloryhallelujah9686
@gloryhallelujah9686 5 лет назад
Me neither 🤷‍♀️ ...I thought he was a bit of an idiot and couldn't take him seriously at all... But now, i think he's funny smart, romantic, suave and very very handsome. I like them together. I hope it works out for them as a couple 😊
@AK-ie2rp
@AK-ie2rp 5 лет назад
Glory Hallelujah i totally agree!! i thought he was an airhead before but he’s so romantic with tayshia 😍😍
@cheer4life642
@cheer4life642 5 лет назад
Yesss I didn’t think so before but this vid and his Instagram is so hot
@annhorstman9214
@annhorstman9214 5 лет назад
These two are made for each other. They make a cute couple. I hope it works out for them.
@mela6034
@mela6034 5 лет назад
Please. They need a show! He’s is the most entertaining genuine guy and the two of them together makes my fav couple out of the bachelor franchise. Adore them!!!
@deboraht5079
@deboraht5079 5 лет назад
Mel A -- me also! Tayshia is good for him as far as helping him grow and he is good for keeping a smile on her face and be happy.
@keepinglifeflowing8392
@keepinglifeflowing8392 5 лет назад
Agreed!
@shanazhu2673
@shanazhu2673 5 лет назад
Same 🥰
@voiceoversbystefmarie6750
@voiceoversbystefmarie6750 5 лет назад
Ikr!! 😊
@caebae7770
@caebae7770 5 лет назад
I think they compliment each other really well :)
@veliciawilliams1081
@veliciawilliams1081 5 лет назад
They work for each other. He is so different with her and she with him. I wish them all the very best.
@deandrecone3613
@deandrecone3613 5 лет назад
I think they should have a couple RU-vid channel and just watch their journey together and develop their relationship I’ll watch that.. I love Tayshia and jpj is kool..
@deboraht5079
@deboraht5079 5 лет назад
De’Andre Cone -- oh my gosh! That is a great idea. I would definitely watch this romance evolve on reality TV.
@mhauserman
@mhauserman 5 лет назад
De’Andre Cone I hate those RU-vid channels more than anything. But I would watch that.
@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063
No!! Its ruins relationships so much!
@dogloverrn8
@dogloverrn8 5 лет назад
@@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063 #agree with you!
@botaiquedream8514
@botaiquedream8514 5 лет назад
IM SO OBSSED WITH THIS COUPLE I LOVE THEM TOGETHER CONGRATULATION I WAS RULING FOR U GUYS
@maureenb7835
@maureenb7835 5 лет назад
I was so happy when Tayshia ran after John Paul Jones. They are made for each other. I am praying for them. 😇
@rosiejackson6018
@rosiejackson6018 5 лет назад
Amen!!!!!!!
@dianemccloud5990
@dianemccloud5990 5 лет назад
Yay for them....I think they just may be fine....they are very honest with each other....
@phyllisferguson3889
@phyllisferguson3889 5 лет назад
I love this couple together. Couldn't be more happy for them. Best wishes.
@YellowFlowerofTexas
@YellowFlowerofTexas 5 лет назад
Please they should have a reality show, they're super cute together, I'm tired of fake and these 2 are real
@sara_hi123
@sara_hi123 5 лет назад
I cried when jpj was leaving in the episode. I love them both
@litabenning3480
@litabenning3480 5 лет назад
I want a JPJ ..a man that’s sure of himself and knows what he wants!! I want their relationship to work so bad.. I just want Taysia to realize what she has JPJ is a special kind of man there’s not many out there like him ...he is a keeper for sure!!
@maemaedaniels7785
@maemaedaniels7785 5 лет назад
he looks like heath ledger. and the ad for the was the joker movie...
@angelamarchese9464
@angelamarchese9464 5 лет назад
I just saw it too
@B0bbyBi11
@B0bbyBi11 5 лет назад
Thank you I’m not the only one
@slimbellybella
@slimbellybella 5 лет назад
omg thank you! i was wondering why he looked so familiar
@DeadKisses
@DeadKisses 5 лет назад
LOVE THEM💕 never have I been jealous of a bachelor nation couple until NOW! They will have so much FUN together!!
@morganking3940
@morganking3940 5 лет назад
There's something very special about these two. 💗💗
@ashtonadairsummers4316
@ashtonadairsummers4316 5 лет назад
Most beautiful couple of all time 😭
@annamarie2849
@annamarie2849 5 лет назад
Magnolia Ames they are so authentic and very real.....
@vickijones5301
@vickijones5301 5 лет назад
JPJ needs to move to LA and, if or when he does, he needs to get into acting because I think he'd be great actor!! He definitely has the looks, vivacious character, and a lot of charm. I would absolutely love to see him on the BIG screen with his GORGEOUS self!! Btw, when he speaks he sounds a lot like the actor Bill Paxton who played in the 2nd Aliens flick. Love you JPJ and Tashia too. I wish you both lots of success!
@babushka2758
@babushka2758 5 лет назад
Vicki Jones yes! Better him than Tyler... tyler thinks that he can be an actor just because he has a look. But it takes more than looks
@deboraht5079
@deboraht5079 5 лет назад
Princess John -- right? Plus JPJ is childlike and humble when it comes to raw emotions. He doesn't cover them up. That is rare.
@peaceloveGen
@peaceloveGen 5 лет назад
Apparently JPJ used to do a lot of theatre back in the day, so you're probably right!! A while back JPJ had posted a photo of him in a production of the show "Picnic" when he was in undergrad!
@arvanni
@arvanni 5 лет назад
He reminds me of the late young actor, Heath Ledger. 😭
@momofschnauzers
@momofschnauzers 5 лет назад
Hope the stars are aligned and this relationship lasts FOREVER. They are just so sweet together.
@kellsiehook1278
@kellsiehook1278 5 лет назад
They look like John Smith & Pocahontas
@jjasminedee3062
@jjasminedee3062 5 лет назад
First bachelor couple to make me happy and give me butterflies. The rest make me cringe even the ones married with kids lol
@estellemu
@estellemu 5 лет назад
JJasmine Dee 🙌100%
@maddyd3153
@maddyd3153 5 лет назад
Tayshia is so cute!!!!
@SydneyKong
@SydneyKong 5 лет назад
"jane's trying to kill my man" AHAHAhahahhahahaha. i love them. they're actually so cute
@robync9729
@robync9729 5 лет назад
Is this the most attractive couple or what? Dang! She is always beautiful, but JPJ looks crazy good in this clip. I wish them both the best. STRONG (yet unpredictable) start! ❤️
@edwinderfatorma5351
@edwinderfatorma5351 5 лет назад
Love those two together, I think they will get married, she will fall in love very soon, cause JPJ is a nice guy
@theman344
@theman344 5 лет назад
JPJ is smart? He came across as an immature brat to Derek. Tayshia can do way better than him. She is drop dead gorgeous!
@annamarie2849
@annamarie2849 5 лет назад
She looks in love!
@milvache
@milvache 5 лет назад
Tayshia and John Paul Jones is a cute couple
@gabrielledesouter2804
@gabrielledesouter2804 5 лет назад
JPJ move to LA !!i love ❤️ u both! Real couple! Not fake ! Can’t wait the engagement one ☝️ day and marriage with beautiful children!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@lissettedelarosa6679
@lissettedelarosa6679 5 лет назад
Awwww he’s so adorable! I’m rooting for them!!
@Blissfullyoblivious
@Blissfullyoblivious 5 лет назад
Awe I’m rooting for them. They seem so happy and have high energy around each other😭
@Meggymiyeko
@Meggymiyeko 5 лет назад
They match really well and balance each other out. It’s hella cute
@shanaanejj7547
@shanaanejj7547 5 лет назад
She is very pretty and has nice hair and body. He is very handsome ans I like his personality. I wnat the best for them and Stay strong
@joyceburke123
@joyceburke123 5 лет назад
Why do people asked the obvious? She asked are you in love with JPJ ? Taysha took a trip to his home not knowing what his reaction would be ; if that's not a woman in love. ❤❤❤
@-Lily7415
@-Lily7415 5 лет назад
How are her teeth that white ?
@kassiewithak
@kassiewithak 5 лет назад
He gives me early 2000’s chad Michael Murray vibes
@princesslene55
@princesslene55 5 лет назад
Watching them makes me laugh which release so much stress,I wish them nothing but the best
@toniwatkins4483
@toniwatkins4483 5 лет назад
bonjour beautiful people you two are so beautiful tugether simply gorgeous many blessings tu you both and remember tu enjoy your blessings and those tu come Chow
@gabrielledesouter2804
@gabrielledesouter2804 5 лет назад
I love ❤️ them both! Beautiful couple and real ! Ruling for them for marriage and beautiful children! ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@deboraht5079
@deboraht5079 5 лет назад
Gabrielle Desouter~ {{☆YES☆}}~
@urban_chameleon6061
@urban_chameleon6061 5 лет назад
Why does jpj look like the guy from movie GHOST... he is gorgeous!!!
@yourauntcindy
@yourauntcindy 5 лет назад
Their relationship kind of reminds me of Evan and Carly💕 Cute and Real!
@Animj90
@Animj90 5 лет назад
Yeah right, Carly at least could admit she loved Evan in the end
@MrsNancy1297
@MrsNancy1297 5 лет назад
Theyre separated atm so I hope taypj do better
@Mitchellerin3
@Mitchellerin3 5 лет назад
Juliet J. Carly and Evan aren’t separated
@MrsNancy1297
@MrsNancy1297 5 лет назад
MystyWisp look deeper than their Instagram. He isn’t living with them anymore, he lives with his parents on a farm. His kid goes to visit him but he and Carly aren’t together at the moment
@MrsNancy1297
@MrsNancy1297 5 лет назад
@MystyWisp They don't want the whole public to talk about their seperation, especially if they're still trying to work things out. Besides, that episode was revorded few weeks ago
@JustJulie-cz8fs
@JustJulie-cz8fs 5 лет назад
I love their vibe it’s so bubbly and just, pure. So cuuuuuute!
@ryansproule7323
@ryansproule7323 5 лет назад
Reminds me of me and my wife when we first met! My wife 6 YEARS later is still the woman of MY dreams!💋🙏👪as is our SON the son of my dreams.. NEVER in my HORRIBLE life before them did I EVER think id EVER have a dream come true... let alone TWO!🙏👪💋 it was VERY scary at first as ive NEVER had good things in my life.. but now i thank god EVERYDAY ive been blessed with my 2 BEST friends and ONLY FAMILY n HOME. Te amo para siempre mi hermosa ESPOSA Y HIJO MI inspiration Every prayer every wish and dream MI EVERYTHING xox
@designdesign23
@designdesign23 5 лет назад
He quickly switched from Desmond to Mr. Adams so he might be a little nervous! They seem super sweet together and comfortable so I hope it works out.
@sarahkelly3234
@sarahkelly3234 5 лет назад
Geez.😍 They are a ball of energy. Tayasia is a Social Butterfly. We need a Tayjpj spin-off.
@ruthallen8661
@ruthallen8661 5 лет назад
I hope do make it work for them so the haters stop hating.
@embeth446
@embeth446 5 лет назад
He is so confusing to me. The guy seriously has movie star good looks and yet he’s so gross - picking calluses on his hand this whole interview 🤔, blowing snot rockets, belching loudly in her ear? And then I can’t tell if he’s super intelligent or the opposite. At times he seems well spoken (like here) and then other times he acts clueless. I give up trying to figure him out. She’s obviously intrigued by him but I’m not convinced it will last.
@amarianivasquez7550
@amarianivasquez7550 5 лет назад
Not gonna lie at first I thought they were a weird match because they just seemed so different but omg the way he makes her smile and laugh and how much fun they have together I love them!! 🥰
@sierrawilliamson315
@sierrawilliamson315 5 лет назад
I literally crack up at anything he does he is such a character 😂😂😂
@danielevans6369
@danielevans6369 5 лет назад
I'M SO FRICKEN HAPPY THIER BACK TOGETHER!😁
@elizabethsemarge4800
@elizabethsemarge4800 5 лет назад
They just look like a couple. They belong together
@gemarambhajan876
@gemarambhajan876 5 лет назад
Good luck to both of dem their relationship is real wish dem lots of love an happiness in d future.
@callieestra1095
@callieestra1095 5 лет назад
I can’t see anything but Tayshias teeth. Instead of flat tummy tea and all that other stuff they promote, they should start making ads about what teeth whiteners they use
@leemary4833
@leemary4833 5 лет назад
Yep, JPJ would need to move to LA; need to be together for a relationship to grow together.
@annamarie2849
@annamarie2849 5 лет назад
I am so happy and smile when I see them together!
@amybritt4113
@amybritt4113 5 лет назад
They're just amazingly perfect together. 👍🔥🌹 These two beautiful people are my favorite couple 💞❤💞 I'm glad she chose to go after him. ( HER MAN) He's so good for her. 💞🌹💕 She's aware of it, that's what I love about her, she's smart, and she wants happiness, and knows JPJ will give her so much love and fun. 🤪 ❤ 🌹 I hope they get married. 🌹💍 🍾 ❤ I want an invite to their wedding. 👍💍🍾
@rosiejackson6018
@rosiejackson6018 5 лет назад
I love true romance stories so whatever you do, let me know or let us know when things go to the next level!!! I watch you two too much and I'm trying to stop but it's pretty hard, so I'll check in once in a while to see what's going on. Love is in the air!!!!
@sannejooni6042
@sannejooni6042 5 лет назад
JPJ is so intelligent! Hes also sooo handsome and loving ❤️ perfect man
@CarlitaHodges2014
@CarlitaHodges2014 5 лет назад
I’m so happy for these two. 💗
@ruthallen8661
@ruthallen8661 5 лет назад
I wish theses interviewer stop her about does she.in love with JpJ let her take her time.
@beverlyritter4526
@beverlyritter4526 5 лет назад
Please John Paul, do not call him Desmond. Be sure to call him Mr. Adams lol.
@scully392z
@scully392z 5 лет назад
These two are so joyful together. I wish them well. My favorite couple.
@blvckdoll
@blvckdoll 5 лет назад
He is ... my god 😍 whoa🤤
@ligayavinarao8676
@ligayavinarao8676 5 лет назад
So beautiful tayshia!
@AmberMcQuiston
@AmberMcQuiston 5 лет назад
I love JPJ's laugh!
@nishb1sh
@nishb1sh 5 лет назад
their kids would be beautiful omg
@livinglifewithlaura2256
@livinglifewithlaura2256 5 лет назад
She is literally soooooo beautiful!!!!
@lastqueen9536
@lastqueen9536 5 лет назад
They both have prettiest smile 😊
@claritywithkj2509
@claritywithkj2509 5 лет назад
It’s great that they are taking their time so when they do commit it’ll be very strong foundation. Excited for them!!
@addiszewde8858
@addiszewde8858 5 лет назад
Awesome guy with awesome personality 👍
@kaylasimpson4458
@kaylasimpson4458 5 лет назад
Jpj is so hot
@LenaLofgren
@LenaLofgren 5 лет назад
They are so beautiful...
@daddyking14
@daddyking14 5 лет назад
I never thought she would be attracted to him!
@deedewatseyer863
@deedewatseyer863 5 лет назад
She is so beautiful.
@amayalegacy8783
@amayalegacy8783 5 лет назад
Their laugh is totally real 😍
@nonabritton8521
@nonabritton8521 5 лет назад
My new favorite couple
@juliansmith4987
@juliansmith4987 5 лет назад
Really rooting for these two. They were my faves on thier respective seasons. I really think they gel.
@Ash-ec5iq
@Ash-ec5iq 5 лет назад
For the love stop asking such inappropriate questions in these interviews!
@justmo6896
@justmo6896 5 лет назад
Tayshia is really gorgeous❤wish them all the best.
@AKnapic91
@AKnapic91 5 лет назад
forreal, i would watch a reality show of these two.
@julietteSoul
@julietteSoul 3 года назад
Lol, this popped up in my recommendations 😂Times change 🤷🏻‍♀️
@fidline709
@fidline709 5 лет назад
They are soooo cute together 💛
@jfleur4853
@jfleur4853 5 лет назад
He’s so respectful! Love them together! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@Louiebull242
@Louiebull242 5 лет назад
She is a real black woman who is keeping it real!
@gypsy10
@gypsy10 5 лет назад
I was going to ask that here, if she was black or mixed. Something about those roots and edges, give her away! 😁
@venessamastersonattorney
@venessamastersonattorney 5 лет назад
So beautiful to see them together. I could watch them forever! love Tayshia and JPJ!
@rfaith590
@rfaith590 5 лет назад
I love them together 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
@powergirl7619
@powergirl7619 5 лет назад
You guys are sleeping if you think John Paul is not an intelligent man.Don't let him fool you.
@patriciascott5460
@patriciascott5460 5 лет назад
They are in love with each other
@LovedHappy
@LovedHappy 5 лет назад
I just adore them! They are both so precious!
@michaelacaleb7919
@michaelacaleb7919 5 лет назад
I need for them to work out & have lots of beautiful babies. 😭🤞🏽
@dwaltz123
@dwaltz123 5 лет назад
They are both so cute! Driving around Orange County and eating in the car sounds like a great date to me for people who really have chemistry together.
@sailaway258
@sailaway258 5 лет назад
How old are they bc they both look so young
@zohononkogui1250
@zohononkogui1250 5 лет назад
29 and allmost 25
@greimalkin
@greimalkin 5 лет назад
Good couple, both so good looking too, sheesh
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