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TBI vs TPI 2023 KTM 300XC vs 2021 KTM 300XCW Erzberg Comparison 

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@mikedm1989
@mikedm1989 Год назад
Thanks for the video. I’m having trouble deciding on which one to get. They both have their positives and negatives. In the end, I really don’t think I gab go wrong with either one.
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
You are 100% correct - both are very fun bikes! Did some frozen trail rides on both this week and still fun to ride them 24F on the trails. I forgot how smooth the 300 TPI engine runs and also the slightly smaller and more compact feeling chassis. Nice to have choices! 300XC TBI... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j7_1JsO8QPw.html 300XCW TPI... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pEfz9CyWzS0.html
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
Riding flat land like you're doing, of course you're going to want to ride and feel the crazy power. But when you ride in super technical trails like we do in AZ, Col, CA and in Ut...you want linear power even when you're coming out into the open space for a while. Still love that TBI though.
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
Yes smooth power makes technical trails easier. The throttle hand to rear wheel connectivity of the TBI engine is very good and even in the aggressive green map even playing on some hills in the woods.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dUpHM7r94kY.html
@gixxxer1k
@gixxxer1k Год назад
you should do a tsp head and ecu reflash on the xcw and compare again. maybe one of your riding buddies has a 300 tpi already uncorked? could compare those. thanks for the content
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
I've not ridden a modified 21/22 300 TPI bike nor do any of my buddies have them. The '23 300 TBI engine is very strong off the showroom floor completely stock.
@bryanha79
@bryanha79 Год назад
I have a 2020 TPI 300 with Coober ECU, high comp head, FMF factory pipe with a turbincore and its been a great bike for 295 hours. I just got a new 2023 TBI 300 and bone stock it has more power and better throttle response everywhere in the RPM range. I was planning on keeping the 2020 but now I just don't see myself ever riding it unless the 23 is broke.
@trentthompson9545
@trentthompson9545 Год назад
Hey, I got a ktm 2023 XCW and I want the new radiator shrouds that are on the 2023 XCs, do they fit on the 2023 XCW tanks or would I need to get a new tank seat and subframe to do that?
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
The 2023 SXF/XC shrouds are from the all new KTM chassis and will not fit the old chassis and I am pretty sure you cannot bolt on the new seat/tank/subframe...very different layout (for example the rear shock is shorter). KTM should be announcing the 2024 XCW models shortly and they will have the all new chassis and plastic. You can see what the new 24 300XCW looks like in this video.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zwVdq9i7dBM.html
@trentthompson9545
@trentthompson9545 Год назад
@@mxengineer1 ok, thank you for letting me know!
@robrozek9265
@robrozek9265 Год назад
Question l just purchased the 2024 husky heritage tx 300 that has the frame that covers the grab holes that elso let air into the air box does the tx feel like it's restricted in the amount of air flow it need I'll be picking up the husky in about 3 weeks there doing some mods on the bike. Great channel l always look forward to a new down load happy trails
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
Congratulations on your new TX300! Did Husky make a Heritage Edition for 2024 model year!!?? I've ridden my '23 TX300 back to back with my '23 300XC (when I still owned it) and my buddy Dave's 23 300SX and do not notice any difference in power. I do notice less intake noise on the TX300. Also the TX300 comes with a vented airbox cover if you feel more air flow is needed. Let me know your thoughts on the 24 TX300...Brembo brakes and spring forks...nice upgrades over the 23 model!
@robrozek9265
@robrozek9265 Год назад
It's a left over tx 2023 haritage that had a very nice rebate so it will have the air forks and most likely the Brake Text components but every once and awhile they put Brembos on a bike because of supply chain issues I'll now when l pick it up. I watched your tx 300 down loads and if it has Break Teck I'll be all right with it . Thank you for your quick response happy trails
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
@@robrozek9265 The Heritage Edition is a unique look! BrakTec brakes work OK - if you only ride them you adapt quickly. My TX300 came with a non o-ring chain too. Enjoy your new TX300!
@RC.56
@RC.56 Год назад
Sweet…. I’m also 6’2 at 205. Easier to ride the tbi as the foot pegs are lower? Also, is that tbi a special addition? Looks like a factory Ed, but don’t see that as an option…
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
The '23 chassis and ergos feel a little better for me (seems like a little bit more room and XC-W footpegs are 5mm higher so shorter distance to the seat). I moved some plastic over from my 22.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition to my '23 300XC...I like more orange!
@heily-3806
@heily-3806 Год назад
The forks must’ve been terrible if you’ve already installed cone valves?
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
Not at all - the AER forks on the 2023 KTM 300XC work very well and are tunable with clickers and pressure. I used them about 10 hours to get a feel for how they work in all conditions. I have a set of WP Cone Valve spring forks that I've used on my previous Husky TX300 and also on my Erzberg 300. This set of CV forks have worked great for me and I wanted to try them on the all new '23 300XC...still my favorite forks on an Austrian 300.
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
If it has more roll on power at 14/49 compared to 13/50 can u imagine how it would feel with the 13/50 like the TPI?
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
KTM changed the primary ratios also so when I looked at a gear chart comparing the previous 300XC/XCW to the new '23 300XC I could see 1st thru 4th gears were lower and closer together while 5th was close to the same and 6th was about the same. So the 300XC actually already has a slightly lower ratio compared to the TPI. Motocross Action magazine test on the '23 KTM 300SX shows 55hp and aroud 35ft-lbs of torque at the rear wheel - that is a LOT of power and torque!
@nightrider4370
@nightrider4370 Год назад
It sure is alot of power.
@hammeredhitzracing6015
@hammeredhitzracing6015 Год назад
Were did you get your granpics on 2023? Thanks
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
I moved some plastic from my 22.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition to the 23 300XC. Decal Works does KTM factory graphics
@Shareeftraish
@Shareeftraish Год назад
Where can I get those graphics!?
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
The graphics on the 300 Erzberg come stock with the bike. The shrouds and seat on the 300XC came off my KTM450 Factory Edition
@billypulsipher7313
@billypulsipher7313 Год назад
test the compression on both.
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
With only 23 hours on the Erzberg and 12 hours on the 300XC both engines run strong and and should be producing the as designed power.
@billypulsipher7313
@billypulsipher7313 Год назад
@@mxengineer1 im not arguing that, it would be an interesting comparison.
@forfun5626
@forfun5626 Год назад
put the black throttle in instead of the grey on the 21
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
Yes that will help give a quicker response on the 300 TPI Erzberg but the new 300 TBI engine makes more power overall especially low/mid/top
@forfun5626
@forfun5626 Год назад
it's noticable eh? almost makes me want to wait one more year before I get another xcw, my 22xcw300 sure was sweet! my biggest reason to get a 23 is I can pull up to a gas station for 5ish tanks before adding oil... decisions decisions lol
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
@@forfun5626 Yes the new engine is noticeably more powerful and responsive - maybe you will get a test ride on one and see if you feel the same! I have no plans to sell my 300 Erzberg and like the gas and go simplicity and how clean the TPI engine runs overall. Maybe the 24 300XCW will have TBI + oil injection?
@johnkling3537
@johnkling3537 Год назад
Dual Power Wheelies 🚀
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
Always!
@stormxz600
@stormxz600 Год назад
How the transmission compare on the xc vs xcw? Ive heard the 23 xc now use the wide ratio tranny!
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
Yes the '23 300XC has a gearbox similar to the XCW but actually all the gears a little lower and closer together - sounds strange but it works. The gears are a little closer together (XC style). 1st is super low for trials kind of stuff but 2nd/3rd are the working gears on the trails. 3rd/4th work great on the MX track. I like it!
@RC.56
@RC.56 Год назад
I see that they sell both a 300xc and an xcw. Just the xc is now geared like a previous xcw, and the new xcw has even lower gearing? Thanks.
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
@@RC.56 The new 300XC gearbox has lower and closer ratios than the current 300XC-W gearbox. I prefer the new 300XC ratios...nice low 1st gear for super slow stuff and no gap between 2nd and 3rd (usual complaint on the XC-W gearbox).
@Tklatti01
@Tklatti01 Год назад
It’ll be interesting when the aftermarket comes up with something to address the gas pickup to from the lower left side of the tank instead if just relying on splashing around gas on the new tbi. 😎
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
With the fuel pump located at the low point on the tank (previous design) I could run until about 25~30mm's of fuel was showing. Have not tried that yet on the new '23 300XC fuel tank though I often run with about 50~60mm of fuel showing
@acer3643
@acer3643 Год назад
Hey can u send me a Honda 250r or a 250f
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
Two of my favorite Honda products!
@acer3643
@acer3643 Год назад
@@mxengineer1 agreed
@mikeevanoski1108
@mikeevanoski1108 Год назад
My buddy bought a xc300, that bike has too much power. It barks!
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 Год назад
Yes the all new 300 TBI engines run strong! Motocross Action Magazine test on the '23 KTM 300SX said their test bike made 55HP at the rear wheel...that is a lot of power!
@pipefitterdirtbikerider3013
Xc
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