How do you use TBS Crossfire telemetry? What was the best thing you learned about TBS Crossfire telemetry from this video? What other questions do you have?🤔 Let me know!👍😉UPDATE: Since this video was posted, RFMD is now available in OSD, LQ in OSD is now measured as a value between 0 and 100 along with the RFMD value of 0, 1, or 2 preceding it.
Any input on my rssi showing 31-32 constant. (Using hitec Aurora 9 radio very little info out there) should i set up rssi channel anyway to confirm if its actually a good link and then try and change the scale in cli?
Great video thank very much for the info I'm about to do the switch I just need to get the accessories.ok I did order the nano and it comes with the antena I think I have to order something else to complete the TBS unit so I will watch again some of the videos u got to complete the set. Thank u again TMac.
So there's something I guess I don't understand. Because of the asymmetrical Tx power of the Crossfire TX Micro (up to 1w) and the nano Rx (I believe only 10mw) it seems to me that you will lose telemetry long before your LQ falls to RFMD 1 and 70% LQ and in fact I've been trying to test this and that's what I find. I was simply trying to see of my audible warnings in my radio were working but those logical switches never get tripped before I lose telemetry. I guess using the telemetry in your OpenTX radio isn't very useful for that reason.
Thanks for sharing, I have a TBS Crossfire TX attached to the back of my RadioMaster TX16S. It was working fine for over 3 months now. Last weekend I installed TBS Agent Lite on the RadioMaster 16X and now I get Failsafe on all my quads about 40 feet away from me. I also noticed when I did discover new sensors I only get 4 sensors instead of all the sensors. I factory reset the Crossfire TX and updated it to 4.08 firmware and still no luck. Any idea how to fix this or I killed my Crossfire TX already?
Try this, go to Model setup, External RF, Receiver Number. Make sure its set to 0 for each model quad using Crossfire. If that doensn't work, have you bound the receivers to the TBS module? Best thing I can think of is just to retrace your steps slowly, one at a time perhaps using this TBS Crossfire setup checklist available here: tmacfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-setup/
@@TMacFPV Thank you so much for your quick reply, I got it fixed now. I had Ignore instances checked, as soon as I unchecked that everything started to work again. Now I can get all the sensors on my TX16. Thank you so much for your help.
Isn´t RxBt the supplied voltage for the reciver? and won´t this in most cases be 5v and you will then get constant warnings if you set it to read out low bat when below 14v (4s)?
Hey Chuck! It's a custom sound track I made using the simple process described in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RSxD9Th1VDo.html Have fun!😁👍
Having such long voice warnings is counterproductive. The warning starts as your LQ drops momentarily. The LQ recovers, but your warning is still being played by the radio. Then the LQ drops again, which triggers the warning again. A simple "Signal Low" and "Signal Critical" audio warning is far more practical and useful. Repeating the warning multiple times is, in my opinion, not useful... Last thing I need when my LQ is low, is my radio repeatedly yelling at me! Also, your sound effects are far too loud in the video, you might want to consider lowering the audio level of the SFX track by half. In fact, the entire audio track is well above normal audio limits and it's quite uncomfortable to listen to. Good information though!
Hey jyunte! Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion and offer suggestions. Your thoughts on length of warnings may be beneficial to others!👍
Great explanation, but I was also looking for information on the downlink. Because the crossfire downlink is much lower power. So if your downlink drops out, you won't get anything telemetry on your transmitter, i.e. no data on uplink quality.
Great video, I've been trying to add GPS display on my TX16S , with TBS Nano receiver. my telemetry is not showing GPS coordinates and main on board battery readings. What do I do to get the data to display? I have the Matek F-405 Wing FC on my AR wing.
Hi eveyone, I'm new to the RC Hobby domain. Need help in understanding which module actually transmits telemetry data back to the flight control screen on the RadioMaster TX16S ? If the TBS receiver transmits back to the flight control unit (i.e. CrossFire TX at the back of the RadioMaster) then why is it called a Receiver only ? shouldn't it be called a transceiver ? And if the CrossFire TX module also receives the signal from the TBS receiver on the quad then that should also be called a transceiver ? I'm an Electronics Engineer but cannot get my head around the size of the receiver. It is too small to transmit anything back over a long range. Plus the TBS Receiver on the Quad does not have any heatsink. How is it able to transmit over such a long range. What am I missing here ? please help !
Thanks for the info, got it working no problems with inav on a wing, tried using it with three gps quads using the latest betaflight and cannot get my edgetx radio to recognise gps telemetry, it picks up the other telemetry? im using the same radio with all models all with crossfire receivers.
Hi TMac. Txs for your vid. It has impressive knowledge and pleasent editing. I have an crossfire, nano diversity, and i lose telemetry as soon as i pass 400 meters. I do long range and its necessary to record gps log. The log stucks at the last value and only changes when I return close to 400 meters. How can i keep telemetry or record the log without it? Should i change to "forced telemetry"?
Nice video - have a question: I keep losing xfire telemetry. When that happens, the Rqual value blacks out on the telemetry page. What can I do to keep getting the RQual value ?
At least someone who thoroughly explained all Crossfire telemetry sensors. Thank you! Any ideas how to convert battery voltage to cell voltage in radio side to keep total battery voltage in OSD? Or it is safe to use remaining battery capacity % sensor?
Hello there. Thanks for the quality video. I have a problem. I cannot find RSSI on the sensors on the telemetry screen. Although I have discovered new sensors, the RSSI sensor is not coming. Equipment I use: Mamba F405 mk2 Radiomaster TX16S + Crossfire Micro TX + Nano RX
So, after watching this video, you still want RSSI instead of RQLY?🤔hmmm . . . perhaps try mapping RSSI on one of your DST channels in the Nano receiver setup of your module then going into Receiver Tab of Betaflight and putting it on the corresponding Aux channel? Its been quite awhile since I've even attempted RSSI with Crossfire, so I'm not positive about that. You could give it a shot
@@TMacFPV I will definitely continue using RQLY. I wonder why I couldn't find the RSSI sensor. I did what you said before. RSSI is running. However, the RSSI sensor cannot be found. Thank you.
my rxbat keeps showing 4.8 volts and the volts of the battery i want to get rid of the 4.8 volts how do i do that? i belive its telling me the reciever voltage i dont want that. is there something in the radio i need to change or betaflight?
Hey TMAC thanks a lot for the video :-) It's working but I can't find the 3 things in the logical switches screen. It's just empty, should I download lua scripts or discover any sensors?
Hey Phillip! Not sure what "3 values" you're referring to, however, the values in the Logical Switches screen that I used are all telemetry values. If you're using Crossfire and follow this checklist you should be good to go: tmacfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-setup/
Excellent videos as usual. Also good timing for me as I have a tbs micro module and nano receiver coming in next week. I have the jumper t16 - so Perfect video--- Thanks!!
joe basque , similar to me, except that I have the t16 pro and I bought the full module. I already have a zohd dart 250 g and also an eachine/diatone 346 racing quad both with crossfire nano receivers. The distance is exceptional and so is the telemetry.
@@TMacFPV Like many hobbyist we look at many videos to try and get our head around the large variety of equipment. I recently added the Dji stuff, which is great, but wanted to make my link signal to be stronger and able to penetrate obstacles. Your videos on crossfire and the jumper made my decision to plunge into crossfire a no brainer. I look forward to your expertise and appreciate your willingness to pass your expertise!! Have a great Day!
@@DavidReynolds-kr6yh Hi, Just started learning to fly about a year ago.... Great fun So far I have collected Blade nano, Blade qx2, then jumped to brushless, tinyhawks, et125, geprc cinema 4k and now waiting for an Iflight Dc3 Stuff to fly in the gym in winter and bigger stuff to enjoy outside
@@joebasque2655 Thank you Joe. Your words mean a great deal to me. Thank you for making the time to comment. I'm very happy you have found the info to be useful. Please stay in touch and have a great weekend 👍
I dot not own a Tango 2 transmitter, however it uses OpenTX firmware so it should be the same. Sounds like you're not getting all of your telemetry values. Try going to the telemetry page in your transmitter while quad is powered on and bound to the Tango 2 then selecting Discover new Sensors on the telemetry page. While you're on the Telemetry Page, make sure you've disabled (untick the box) "Ignore Instances" in the Telemetry Page of your Tango 2. Also, with the recent versions (2.3.10 & above?) of OpenTX, you no longer need to use an Aux channel to receive LQ. So, if you're running a recent version of OpenTX and do have that setup in your Crossfire receiver setup, just get rid of that. Finally, refer to Crossfire manual pages 51-53 here www.team-blacksheep.com/tbs-crossfire-manual.pdf
TMac very useful. Had to set this up again. ALSO - im a bit confused as you have a bunch of extra logical switches set up such as Rqly and Rqly and RSNR but later in the video you just have the 3 to use. Whats best? Should I use all of them. Thanks 👍 im referring to the the video at section 3:51 ? thanks basically shoukd i just use the logical switches in section 13:19 or include 3:51 switches?
It's better just to go with what's shown in 13:19. The stuff at 3:51 was just showing examples really of what you could do. On a daily basis, I'm using the stuff at 13:19. LNKLow is a custom sound file I made using this process ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RSxD9Th1VDo.html
I changed my cinelog25 receiver from frsky to tbs crossfire .... the quad flying working good.... but the range of vtx dropped down no range less than 30cm The goggles should be close to the quad to see I dont know whats wrong affect on vtx range
changing your receiver should have no effect on your VTX reception. Something else is wrong. Check all connections and wiring to solder pads, VTX antenna connection to VTX, correct VTX channel on goggles, etc.
Very good and brief explanation of how to set up voice alerts in open TX and how to use RQly. Subscription activated. Thank you. Greetings from Slovakia.
Hi. Great video. Thanks a bunch. Quick Q. I am on opentx 2.3.9. I am trying to get LQ in my radio but in the logical switches page I don't have the RFMD nor RQLY options. Do you have any tips on that ? Shall I downgrade my open tx? Or do you know of it is called something else in that version? Thanks!
Hey Jose! Most likely nothing to do with OpenTX 2.3.9. Did you go through Crossfire Module menu and bind receiver in your transmitter? Have you "Discovered new sensors" in your telemetry page of model setup? After pressing Sys button, under "Tools" menu, Crossfire Configure, XF nano RX, Mode = 8 or 12 channels (I use 12), you shouldn't have any of the channels setup fro RSSI. Those are only things I can think of to check for now, perhaps one of those will help
Where are you seeing this displayed? ISD or transmitter screen? Crossfire telemetry value is RxBt (not rxbat). Make sure in transmitter you're using the value RxBt. Perhaps this will sole the issue
Great video again TMac ! For the battery, wouldn't it be more accurate to trigger a warning using the Capa telemetry with a calibrated current sensor in betaflight ? This implies that you always use the same Lipo capacity. Edit : Nevermind, I just found out that you talked about it in your "FPV Battery Voltage & Current Calibration". Perfect as always ! Thank you again TMac for your amazing tutorials.
Hey Tmac, great in depth tutorials as usual !! I have my TX16s set up with the crossfire widgets I want, however my Rxbt reading displayed in my widget, is flashing between 5v and the actual battery voltage for the quad. I can't seem to just get the battery voltage. Tried removing sensors and re adding. Any help would be appreciated !
not sure Larry. Things to try. on Telemetry Page, make sure "Ignore instances" box is unchecked. All firmware for both Crossfire module & receiver updated to same version?
@@TMacFPV Thanks so much for the fast reply! Yes my "ignore instances" is unchecked and both my receiver and transmitter are updated to version 6.12, the widget still flashes between 5v and the battery voltage, very strange.
@@TMacFPV yup.. im on csrf and nano rx se, its awesome and all but sucks the battery of my tx really fast, well not as efficient when i was using the internal 2.4 module. was thinking of switching to panasonic 18650b (internal) then ill create another 3s 18650 as external for the csrf.. thats probably another content idea :) most of the existing content are kinda shady, would be great if you shed information re properly powering csrf. then probably down the road, long range stuff.. antenas.. etc.. maximizing our gear and keeping alive the "hacking/diy" spirit :)
In my betaflight 4.2.8, why does link quality not show up in my DJI goggles? Only when I click on RSSI will it show a number, and I'm not even sure what that number or scale is, because changing my radio or nano rx power doesn't seem to change the number at all. I don't get it. I'm following the exact instructions
@@TMacFPV I've already followed the instructions from Barwell's video a bunch of times. I've enabled the RSSI aux with LQ signal from radio, I've disabled RSSI aux, I've tried everything. Nothing changes the fact that the only item the DJI goggles will display is RSSI Value, and the corresponding RSSI % value shown on the Betaflight setup page. Is there anything you can think of?
Thank you TMac. This video is very helpful. When you are explaining the special functions, you say that it plays 1 time, but NOT at startup. I have several annoyances that trigger every start up. Can you explain how to do that? (maybe you already have, in another video that I haven't found yet 😃 ) Also, the "sound to noise" telemetry seems like it would be useful to trigger an alarm, except that I don't have a clue as to how I would set that up. Any suggestions are appreciated 😃 Thanks TMac!
The "not at startup" feature is enabled by using the exclamation point in front of 1X (see the first Special Function line at time mark 15:29 of video. Signal to Noise is taken into consideration within LQ telemetry value. However, RSNR (uplink signal-to-noise ratio) and TSNR (downlink signal-to-noise ratio) as well as all other Crossfire telemetry values available are found on page 45 of Crossfire User Manual you can access here www.team-blacksheep.com/tbs-crossfire-manual.pdf . To use any of these telemetry values you set them up the same way as I demonstrate doing so ion this video. You just need to determine what a "normal" value is (by looking at your telemetry screen) and what is not an acceptable value for you. Then, set up ax based on your "unacceptable value" for that telemetry
Brilliant info. I received my Radiomaster TX16s yesterday. A major step up from my Flysky FS-i6S. So far you info is much better at helping me solve my problems. Crossfire now fully set up! THanks - great video. 😁
Best channel for FPV tech. I am amazed by the vast amount of knowledge you share here. Every FPV Pilot should binge watch your video's. Do I understand it right that you ditched the frsky 9m, the you picked, out of the two, earlier?
Tmac - superb video and one of the best I've seen. I have a jumper t16 and recent switched to Xfire and running a high BF version and need some of these alerts but it is confusing. Shall just replicate what you did. I need now to figure a logical switch (?) to alert me when I'm too high ! Do you have that ? Thanks a million. Massive 👍👍
hi and thank you for this video and the others 👍 I just went to CRSF and I have a T16 pro and I learned a lot thanks to you, simply, even if it is not easy for me to understand everything because of the language barrier … 😁 `thank you very much and hello from France 👋
Hi K1roue FPV! You're very welcome and thank you for your kind words! I have added captions to my videos in the English language you can enable through the "CC" button or the "gear' icon at the lower right of the video which may help you out (especially if you can get it translated). Stay safe and Clear Skies friend!👍😀
thanks for all the effort you put into this video Sir, which is not only very informative but also fun to watch. Being new to both Crossfire and to Open TX, I learned a lot and subscribed. Since you asked what other questions we have, here‘s one for you: I am running an iFlight Alpha A85 HD with a crossfire nano RX linked to a Radiomaster TX16S. I keep getting „Telemetry Lost“ warnings every now and then when I am about a half kilometer out, however I never lost control of my quad. Telemetry usually recovers within a few seconds or so after I have gained some altitude or turned the quad. I assume this might be because of the relatively small Crossfire antenna on the quad which was developed by iFlight specifically to fit this little 85mm whoop. The A85 was of course never designed to be a long range quad, but I was wondering if I should be worried to lose Telemetry every now and then. Is it really necessary to bring the quad back when it happens? Would be great to read about your thoughts - thanks in advance. Ruedi from Germany. 😃👍
Hey Ruedi! Great to hear from you! I'm guessing your "telemetry lost" warnings are coming when one end of your antenna is pointing directly at you. That would be what's called a "null" in the radiation pattern (near zero radiation emitted from end of antenna). The radiation pattern propogates outward from the sides of the antenna (sort of like a doughnut pattern). So, when you turn your quad, the antenna turns and you regain telemetry. If you're able to do so, I'd have LQ (link quality) displayed on my goggles OSD. That way, you can keep track of your control signal strength. Another thing you could do is use a Video aerial systems (VAS) XFire Pro antenna which is designed to be "cross-polarized." This design essentially eliminates/reduces nulls. You can check out the XFire Pro antenna here www.flyingtech.co.uk/electronics/vas-868mhz-xfire-pro-antenna-ufl-tbs-crossfire . Also, make sure to download the TBS Crossfire User Manual here www.team-blacksheep.com/tbs-crossfire-manual.pdf
Thanks TMac for the explanations and the advice. I will follow up on those. anyway I don‘t need to worry too much about the issue I take it. Thanks again! 🙂
Ive seen some other tutorials on this topic, coming from a tech background this is the most accurate and thorough explanation Ive seen. thanks for the content!'
Thanks for your video TMac! Very interesting stuff. It's a little advanced for me but I'm glad but glad I watched. I will keep it in the back of my mind until I'm ready. Now I know where to go when I need it. Thanks
Hey Kyle! Welcome aboard your TMac FPV Team!👍 Happy you found us and hope you find the content useful! 😀 If you don't mind, tell me a little about your experience/background in FPV.
Oh, man! Another masterclass. I've been using only RSSI, because that's what I was using when running 2.4, before Crossfire. Also, I'm lazy and the environment where I fly is mostly free of interference (it's usually a farm). But there's a lot to digest in your video and yes, I have already failsafed not so far while using 900mHz. It was my fault, as I had a bad antenna connection at the time. Now RQLY is very useful and now I'll be working to enable LQ in my OSD. Later I'll be creating special functions to play audible warnings from my radio in OpenTx. Thanks a lot, TMac.
Hey Adriano! Great to hear from you. You're quite welcome. Believe me, you're not alone with using RSSI (because that's how we all used to do it). 😁Sounds to me like you've got it nailed down!👍Very much appreciate your support Adriano 🙏Have an outstanding 🌞day!
Boning up on my Crossfire knowledge while awaiting the July arrival of my module. I don't know HOW you do it, but you always seem to anticipate what I need to know to succeed in this hobby. Another amazing, well made, and informative video. You're just knockin' 'em out of the park with the bases loaded, TMac! Thanks AGAIN for the perfect video at just the right time in my RC career!
TMac After much internal debate, I decided to future proof myself a bit by opting for the middle ground. I purchased the Crossfire Lite. My first receiver will be the micro SE with the Immortal antenna.
Nice video just found your channel and is very informative thanks. I had bad RSSI but good to average LQ but now since upgrading my LQ has a warning on the osd think that font update will hopefully fix it trying that tomorrow cheers.
Hey kanenstuff! Appreciate your kind words 🙏I've found LQ to be much more valuable than RSSI. Yes, please let me know if don't update clears warning for you-cheers!
@@TMacFPV I have done a factory reset and gone from 3.23 to 3.28 and my LQ is back at 300 and RSSI is at 80 but on my taranis telementry page is Rx 99 do you know why my taranis displays 99 and bf is at 80 it dose it on all 4 builds I have with crsf?
Tmac, first of all THANK YOU for making such concise and clear content! Im sure you are aware of just how overwhelming this hobby can be to a newbie such as myself. Your videos are among the most informative and helpful that i have come across in my short but highly involved journey to become an fpv quad pilot. Just wanted to give you a quick message of encouragement and appreciation for your continued hard work. You're doing a great service for technologically deficient folks like me. Again, THANK YOU!!!!
Thank you! I very much appreciate you making the time to share your thoughts. Yes, I'm very aware of how overwhelming this hobby can be to "Rookie" FPV pilots. That is exactly why I created the Fast Track FPV Course and do my best to provide information I believe would be helpful to others. I'm glad you're finding it useful and "technologically deficient" is only a temporary "condition!' 👍One of the most enjoyable things for me in this hobby is continual learning. Thank you again for your support🙏Stay in touch, enjoy your weekend, and Clear Skies my friend!😁
hi tmac if your using dji you will not be able to get link quality in osd something worth mentioning as i tried only to learn dji have not updated this feature it still worked in my tx though....unless that is someone can correct me if am wrong ;-) great video as usual
Thanks Urban Myth FPV! Is this true even with the latest firmware update for your goggles and air unit? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A-xSZTftr0w.html If so, does that mean every time Betaflight updates something with the OSD that you have to wait for DJI to catch up with Betaflight? That sounds interesting. If that's the case, I hope DJI is working in close coordination with Betaflight. In any case, all you need to do is set up audible alert in transmitter for low RQly as depicted in video. don't really "need" it on OSD.
@@TMacFPV i hope am wrong but seems not every feature is currently able to add to osd in goggles even though you can add them on betaflight they still wont show on goggle osd ,
You have a strange style to the start of your video, looks like something out of the matrix lol, but you also do a great job of informing your audience.
Just bought a used crossfire tx lite and setup crsfshot and rqly warning. Less then 200 meters and started giving warning even on 1w. Thanks for this video, cleared some of my doubt.
Hey Nathan! I'm confused about what you said, please help me understand. What type of warning did you get less than 200m away in 1W and how did this video clear up some doubt you had? Thank you my friend 👍
@@TMacFPV I got warning of rqly dropping under 80%. Initially not sure if this setting was necessary but after watching your video, I decided to keep it and updated my quad to betaflight 4.1 and not using crsfshot first. Anyway I fly in the middle of city, definitely a lot of noise interference.
Hi tmack! Nice video! So i am a litle confused and i got 2 questions. 1. I am on bf 4.1 and if i disable rssi channel on bf and select lq on my osd i will get lq on osd and free up a chanel? 2. I did follow your steps but on osd i get 0 lq and on my t 16 i get 100 what did i miss?
@@vasilisfellouzis I, of course, am assuming you're using Crossfire and will go from there. Answer to question 1 is "Yes." Regarding question 2, I do not know what you missed. Do you have telemetry enabled in configuration Tab? Are you using DJI goggles (if so, I'm not sure DJI goggles support Link quality on OSD)? Other than that, here's the link for the Crossfire Setup Checklist checklist: tmacfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-setup/
