TDG: Relic (Premium Edition) 

Still haven't played the original.

antoyal Good point.

I've stolen so many games of Talisman and Relic from players who thought I didn't have a prayer when in reality, I did. I just didn't have a prayer, the bible, 4 priests in tow and a holy hand grenade just in case. Which is, I guess, stuff people think you need? xD

Ha!

Fantastic!

Thanks!

Ha!

Indeed.

Fantastic!

@@TheDiscriminatingGamer hell yeah that was a bargain for sure!

Ha! I'm sure you could "game" Relic to start further along, but I don't know how you do that to make it balanced since different characters get different rewards at different times. I'm sure you could figure out the math if you really wanted to. I'd love to review James Bond when it is available.

I hope so for the sake of all the new players. Relic is great, but Relic with Nemesis and Halls of Terra is a completely evolved experience and even makes the game asymmetric and I feel might even make it faster like Cody was wishing during the first bit.

@@mikejonesnoreally do you know if WizKids got round to releasing the talisman expansions ? If they didn't I don't have much hope for relic expansions

I've never played it with the expansions, but I heard they were really good. I don't know about the Talisman expansions.

@@davedogge2280 Revised 4th Edition and all of its expansions are being reprinted in English and German by Pegasus Spiele in English and German in a staggered release from September to November. The base game and select expansions are also being reprinted in French, Polish & Italian by Edge Entertainment, Galakta and Giochi Uniti.

@@jonnew437 strange that Pegasus Spiel which is a German company is doing the Talisman reprints (I ordered direct from them before). They do the Dark Eye or whatever it's called big German RPG. i think I've got a board game / card game of that particular franchise. Interesting.

Indeed. I'm hoping they'll reprint Forbidden Stars.

You have that right Cody? I'd love to see some expansions finally! Wow. Who would ever believe I was saying that about a game released by FFG?? o.O

Woooooozaaaah

@@TheDiscriminatingGamer Any news, or at least rumour, of a Space Hulk: Death Angel reprint? (the card game)

@@blackjack2150 I haven't heard.

Mechanically, I don't believe so.

Not mechanically. Quality wise, there are new character sculpts, and thicker punchboard character and scenario cards.

Bear in mind that quality-wise, I rank the FFG models a lot higher than the WizKids one. They are not only more detailed, but simply look better as statue-like busts than as half-minis from the torso up. And the least said about the paintjobs, the better. WizKids pre-painted models always look shoddy as hell, and this is no exception.

@@franciscoguerra5439 I'm not a stickler for paint-jobs, as I do not paint myself. I'd rather have a "shoddy" paint job than no paint job any day of the week.

@@TheDiscriminatingGamer Yeah, that's fair enough. I'm just constantly disappointed with the quality of WizKids components, which is a shame as I tend to quite like their games. Star Trek: Attack Wing, for example, was a *FAR* superior game to X-Wing, but the models, oh dear me, the models... and I don't just mean paintjobs (which were genuinely atrocious, especially earlier on), I mean stuff like an entire production run of K'Tinga Cruisers with the warp nacelles glued backwards, for example. When I contacted WizKids about it, they told me to just break them and re-glue them (thanks...). That complain of miniature quality, of course, doubles if you're making a game based on a license that is known primarily as a miniatures wargame, as it's a fair bet that a large part of the people who will buy that game come from that demographic. And on that respect, again, I was really underwhelmed with Relic. Spindly arms on the models, bent weapons, and an overall feel of "cheapness" to it that the gorgeous FFG sculpts didn't have. And paying extra to get miniatures that are really poorly painted is just a really weird concept for consumers of GW products (seriously, that poor sister of battle looks like a creepy, dead-eyed doll). Since I already owned the FFG version, this is a minor gripe, but I just hope this doesn't become a trend when/if WizKids reprints other GW boardgames like, say, Chaos in the Old World or Forbidden Stars. Now, if you're a boardgamer first, then of course this will not be a problem. But if you're a boardgamer who is also a miniatures wargamer (like me), then so far I have to say FFG handled these a bit better than WizKids has. Who knows, maybe they'll turn it around and blow everyone out of the water with a beautifully-produced reprint of the Horus Heresy! All this said, Relic is a great game, and it's great to see it back on the shelves. So there is that!

Fantastic!

I understand your reservations. However, I believe that this is a game that some people will really get into, while others - not so much. This based on the games I've played and people I've discussed the game system with.

@@TheDiscriminatingGamer : There are no "reservations", I own this game! Unless the Wizkids version is vastly different, it's still the same game. Of the several people I taught and played it with, overall consensus was a mildly entertaining game at best! Sure there are some that may love it but the vast majority of gamers will probably play this once and say no thanks to a second helping. Be discriminating!

@@tempestfury8324 I guess that's why the Talisman is so popular all around the world since the '80s :D

Mr. Swada shhhh, tempest doesn’t like something = none of us are allowed to like it!! 🤔

@@Carfilliot : When did I ever say you, or anyone, shouldn't like or enjoy Relic/Talisman? Oh, that's right! I didn't! Perhaps you should actually read my comments before interjecting your beliefs on what you've perceived as my opinion. If you love Relic & Talisman....fine! Great! If you want to debate the issue, we can! But this is the typical reaction from thin-skinned clowns, like yourself, who's probably received a few "participation awards" that cannot handle any criticism at all. And it's wasn't even criticism directed at you! That's were your thin-skin makes you a clown, ready for make-up.

It is fun, but requires a certain type of gamer for sure.

Nope.