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TDG: Sidereal Confluence 

The Discriminating Gamer
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Looking to make a deal? Join Cody as he examines this interstellar trade/negotiation game from WizKids. Will the contracts you make bind your heart? Or will you negotiate away your good times? Let's watch!
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Комментарии : 33   
@koomo801
@koomo801 3 года назад
Is "I need a big black" the new "I have wood for sheep"?
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Ha!
@XShrike0
@XShrike0 3 года назад
My apprehension with negotiation mechanics is the necessity of knowing the value of everything. Now these values can fluctuate based on circumstances but knowing a base value is a must that many games seem to leave up to experience to figure out. This leads to more experienced players having an advantage. This being good or bad depends on how much of an ass an experienced player decides to be to new players.
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Indeed. The game comes with a “fair trade” card for each player, telling them what exactly everything is theoretically worth all things being equal.
@Lordjunon
@Lordjunon 3 года назад
This warms my heart, this game is so great.
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Indeed!
@bartwalczak2715
@bartwalczak2715 3 года назад
It's a really great game. I agree that it benefits from players who prefer cooperation, but during the game I've revised my initial idea that it's always profitable to trade with everyone just as long as you get what you want, because you might end up helping the leader more. Surprisingly deep, I don't think that there is anything like it.
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Agreed. A very unusual game.
@zfighter3
@zfighter3 3 года назад
The link to your second channel didn't load for me.
@codycarlsonph.d.5591
@codycarlsonph.d.5591 3 года назад
Weird. Doesn't work on my iPad but works on my Mac.
@zfighter3
@zfighter3 3 года назад
@@codycarlsonph.d.5591 That is odd.
@jackbaligad7004
@jackbaligad7004 3 года назад
I picked up the previous edition of this game but never got it to the table because of the intimidation factor too. And then another friend had played it but had a bad experience (he was new to it and a more experienced player was playing the Zeth and basically bullying him). Seeing your video has sparked new interest to try to get it to the table. Do you know if there is any difference between this edition and the previous one aside from the cover art?
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
I don't really know if there are any differences other than cosmetic. However, I am not sure about that.
@ElTrolldego
@ElTrolldego 3 года назад
From what I've heard from Wizkids, the only changes are in the art/graphic design.
@villevalste1888
@villevalste1888 Год назад
It looks way nicer. Also they improved the designs of the cards, players sheets and the manual (they even included a teaching aid). The size difference of big and small cubes is more noticeable. It's just a more professional looking version of the game. Everything's functionally still the same. Just search the images of the 1st and 2nd edition and see the difference for yourself. I couldn't say, if it's worth it buying the 2nd edition, if you already have the 1st. The 1st edition definitely has its own charm.
@john-lenin
@john-lenin 3 года назад
Sigh deer ee ull
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Sigh deer to you, too!
@john-lenin
@john-lenin 3 года назад
@@Melville1800s Only Trumptards
@user-hk5fo1nm9h
@user-hk5fo1nm9h 3 года назад
I had the original and I felt very very burned. Basic emergent aspects of the game are not explained well, lots of the rules are not in the rulebook. I tried this twice with groups of people and both times it was so bad we just quit and they never want to play a board game again. The game should have been more humble and just straight up explain how you should take advantage of some species powers because if you don’t take advantage of certain things, like how the one species with unlimited colony support needs to be a warehouse for the other players, then this game is a terrible experience.
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
This edition has player boards that recommend specific strategies based on player powers. Did the earlier version?
@user-hk5fo1nm9h
@user-hk5fo1nm9h 3 года назад
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer It had player boards but the suggestions were very general and vague, players were overwhelmed trying to tell the table about the extra rules that were on each player sheet.
@ImperatorZed
@ImperatorZed 3 года назад
The game gives a lot of advice on strategy for the specific powers. Don't play this game with people who are overwhelmed by an A4 sheet full of text though. Basic high school level reading comprehension is required. The instructions are actually very specific and not vague at all. They go so far as to say how much in trade goods people are expected to gain from specific trades particular to them.
@user-hk5fo1nm9h
@user-hk5fo1nm9h 3 года назад
@@ImperatorZed I disagree entirely. Really basic things like having people trade their planets to the bugs in exchange for getting the resources for them, isn't explained. They tell you general values for cubes but that's pointless when people are trying to find the relative value of things in the current board state combined with what people are trying to research. It ground to a halt immediately everytime.
@APieceoftheAction
@APieceoftheAction 3 года назад
This is my favorite ugly game.
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Ha!
@NoeAnton
@NoeAnton 3 года назад
The last game we played in our now dissolved gaming group before the pandemic, was this one, and boy was it a success. The crazy nature of the trading and building your engine, it's one of the very few chunky, asymmetrical games that actually benefits from a large group of people... it needs massive space, but it's so darn fun.
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Indeed. Great game!
@raymyers700
@raymyers700 3 года назад
I love this game but unfortunately there is one person in our group who's negotiation style is very "my way or the highway" that includes the immediate threat to not trade with you the rest of the game. It sucks all the joy from this beautiful game out! Yes we could gang up against him but we find no pleasure in that either as he just won't "learn". It's a shame though as the game is a negotiation masterpiece
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Indeed it is. Maybe your negotiation should include a threat not to invite him back to game night.
@raymyers700
@raymyers700 3 года назад
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer it's the same old story that he is a friend of a good friend that would be hurt if I did that. It is very out of character for me to not be politely direct. I will keep your play in my back pocket though! :D
@snorni
@snorni 3 года назад
just gather other players and organise a trade embargo on him.
@jeffreykahrs6310
@jeffreykahrs6310 3 года назад
one of my faves
@TheDiscriminatingGamer
@TheDiscriminatingGamer 3 года назад
Great game!
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