Ted Bundy Chi Omega Murders | Theories of Mania & Psychopathy 

In the Chi Omega murders I think Bundy shows his true colors. Thing is, I think he knew he was “going down” for his crimes and no longer used his superficial charm, or felt he needed it. He became his truest most authentic disordered self. Maybe the anger was an anger at the world for perceived injustice due to his massive sense of entitlement. Bipolar sounds too easy. If Bundy was anything, he was just about every disorder put together and rolled into one absolutely horrific human being. I really find him disturbing! Those poor women, and ..... a 12 year old? 😞I don’t usually support the death penalty, but in Bundy’s case, I do! He was lethal. Thank you Dr Grande for covering this part of Bundy’s crimes. I really love how you make me think deeply. 🥰

On one particular documentary I saw about Bundy there’s a detective who, in a quiet, pensive moment, late at night when Ted was in his cell asks him, “ why, why did you do it? “ Bundy simply answers “ I liked it”. So simple which makes it so terrifying.

I knew the sister of one of his victims. She said her parents were so bereft, they never paid attention to her, which led to problems in her life. These horrible actions have an exponential, ripple effect. Tragic that he was allowed to escape and kill more.

If bundy indeed interviewed Chi Omega girls for hours for depositions I am 100% sure that he did it primarily to relive the crimes and intimidate them. I am also sure he was in a constant state of arousal during those interviews. Killing turned bundy on.....one of the sickest individuals ever to walk the earth.

That's just horrible that the girl killed herself. How Bundy managed to escape not one but two times baffles me. I mean i know how he escaped but still.. Pure horror.

The fact that the girl that danced with him thought he looked like an ex con shows how good intuition can be. Always listen to it. It can save your life! There's a great book on this called The Gift of Fear.

Thank you for mentioning the long lasting effects of his actions

Your calm, dispassionate presentation has prompted me to examine my propensity for impulsive emotional outbursts.

I really enjoyed your thorough breakdown of the Chi Omega murders, as they're definitely unusual compared to how the other murders were committed. Thank you so much for making this video! Initially I had viewed Bungy's behavior as more wild and crazy, going on a last rampage before he would be caught and imprisoned for good. Yet you pointed out some details I had not known or considered, such as him removing the mask and hiding the log while walking to the second location. Sounds like there's a mix of organized and disorganized behavior. For anyone interested to hear from a survivor of the sorority house attack, I'd recommend an interview Kathy Kleiner did for a news station back when the Netflix series was coming out. She really empowered herself throughout her recovery, and it's awesome to hear. May the dear victims and all their loved ones have peace. 🌼

The fact that he forced some of his victims into depositions, shows how intelligent and calculated he was. That's a tool of harassment that has to be premeditated

Thank you for covering this and especially for talking about the non-physical wounds that Bundy inflicted on these women, how he not only traumatized them but would later re-traumatize many of them in court, and of course the long-lasting effect it had on them.

Just briefly reviewed Bundy’s background. It seems as though Bundy definitely had psychopathic signs, specifically with being unable to see the value in friendship at an early age. It sounds like he was manipulating everyone. That he was drawn to politics because of the manipulative factor of politics. That he got back together with Brooks just to prove his superiority. Also it appears he had a low opinion of his mother which probably got transposed to all women. He started off careful and calculating with his initial murders. It gave him a sense of intellectual superiority while possibly also taking satisfaction in punishing women for the blame he held toward his mother. My intuitive thought is when he was at the bar that night, he perceived the looks of women viewing him as dangerous as being an indictment both of his guilt, but more importantly of his failure to deceive his malific intentions which went to the core of his constructed identity. This resulted in a rage against all associated parties in the women’s dorm. That’s my two cents.

A friend of mine, now deceased was one of the crime scene photographers assigned to the case of Bundy's last victim, Kimberly Leach. It seriously affected him. He said it was the saddest thing he had ever seen or experienced.

I thought I remember reading in Ann Rule’s book that Ted enquired about states that have death penalty and someone mentioned Florida to him. He purposefully made the trip to FL. He committed his more gruesome murders there. I think he determined to go “out with a bang” , knowing he could not live on his “charm” and looks. No one was fooled anymore.

I sang in a choir and sat beside Margaret Bowman's mother during the exact days that it happened. I can't personally verify the following, but the general word (after the mother, also named Margaret, left choir) was that the mother completely lost her sanity and never recovered. (I think Bundy also bit the daughter's breast?). So when you mentioned (which was a superb insight) that Bundy destroyed a lot more lives than just his immediate victims', I thought of Margaret. And that expanded out to the whole Episcopal church going into deep grieving, having seen young Margaret grow up, and feeling decimated in our sympathy for her mother. I still hurt today. What an incalculably vast blanket of darkness murder casts.

I remember being in my early 20s hanging out with my girlfriends at a bar and an older guy would ask us to dance etc, it always kind of grossed us out! Especially when we were at a college bar with, for the most part, clearly students of the same age. He would stick out like a sore thumb! I’m willing to bet he approached a few girls and got turned down, that would’ve really set him into laser focus on killing. I had no idea one of the sorority sisters killed herself shortly after the murders of her house mates! OMG poor thing! I do think he went to that bar to scope out victims. I don’t think he was in his usual state of readiness. I think the escape from jail and driving so far changed him. Just imagine the things he thought about during all those hours of driving in solitude. I think since he’d already been caught, he realized his time was limited. I think he ditched his previously very careful ways so he wouldn’t be detected. It’s not so shocking that the other girls in the sorority house didn’t hear him as they were fast asleep, and the victims were fast asleep as well. Wouldn’t have taken very long, and hitting a person certainly isn’t as loud as hitting a bed frame or wall! I’ve always been of the opinion that Bundy was a born Psychopath. He had a huge, but fragile ego. Any kind of rejection from childhood to adulthood he seemed to carry with him. Almost as if he racked up each and every rejection through out his entire life, and this gave him license to do what he did. I also think he was a closet sadist. He didn’t have the guts to go too far with his girlfriend, as he figured “normal” girls wouldn’t go for that. I think all the years of curbing his sexual desires in an effort to fit in built up, and he hated women for it. I don’t think he suffered from mania, and I don’t think the voices he “heard” were anything other than his own internal thoughts. I certainly don’t think he suffered from any mental disorder that hearing voices is a feature of. He certainly was a killing machine and wouldn’t have ever stopped until the law stopped him. As always excellent and extremely interesting video! Thanks for your hard work putting it all together!

I am a retired therapist. I have been studying Ted since before he was arrested, and some of the girls went missing...against my mother's wishes I read Detective magazines in the grocery stores. At that time the girls were missing and listed as missing in the magazines. So, I consider myself something of an expert on Ted, but I actually learned a little about him that I had never heard before...Thank you so much for the extensive review.

Thanks for keeping these under 25 min! Oh & many women can FEEL that something intuitively feels “off” re: someone or a situation.

My adoptive father has NPD with more than a "tinge" of ASPD (3Xs drunk driving convictions, spent 5 years in prison for 3rd degree sexual misconduct - of some sort - with a minor), so I'm fascinated with psychopathy and/or psychopaths. The extreme manifestations of human behavior and (possible) causes are of huge interest to me because I grew up in rather extreme conditions with extreme types of people in various environments, therefore, I've got a "seen it all before mentality", so I need these types of educational videos to feed my "inner beast" - thanks "a grande", Dr. Grande.

I think after escaping for a second time, he felt invincible and went on a frenzy. He felt positive nothing could stop him, not even getting captured, so to hell with precautions.

Dr. Grande, I cannot thank you enough for discussing PTSD for the survivors of the Chi Omega Attacks. Your thoughts are so enlightening. Blessings to you and your family! 🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤

I cut my teeth on the Ted Bundy case while I was getting my bachelor's degree in criminal justice and criminal psychology. He was perhaps one of the most cunning and dangerous people to ever walk this Earth. His last interview is absolutely fascinating and I would encourage any that haven't watched it to check it out. In the end, Bundy knew it was over. He was essentially spiraling. What little impulse control he had was lost that night.

Please make a shirt that says "I am not diagnosing just speculating"

I always had the impression that during the Chi Omega murders, Bundy knew his time was up and he was in a frenzy (not mania, though) almost like he wasn't even trying to be stealthy anymore. He was going to do as much damage as possible in one sitting.

I think he scoped out Chi Omega beforehand, possibly. Therefore he knew there were logs available and that the lock was broken.

I find your videos fascinating and informative. I cant get enough. I was wondering if you could do one on Tammy and Sidney Moorer, from the Heather Elvis case.

Fascinating and interesting vid. So glad you spoke about the trauma of the women. Thankyou Dr.

The bipolar disorder assertion is bogus. Nothing we’ve heard describes a guy who’s depressed or manic. I think his primary problem was sadism and psychopathy.

Maybe it's because my mom was approached by him, but it was the helpless act that scared me. My usual response to someone struggling is to help, it's something that should be a positive but he used that instinct against women (my mom's boyfriend came up along side to help him get something into his car & Bundy played it off, thanking them both & driving away). Florida I always wondered if there was some suicidal component. I'm not entirely sure of Utah but Washington didn't have the death penalty. He studied law, he'd asked his own lawyer about it. He knew if you want the death penalty, head to Florida or Texas. He knew it was over, he headed to Florida & committed his biggest most brutal attacks- a sorority house & a child. Guaranteed to get headlines. Maybe it was a challenge to him or maybe he wanted to go out big.

Thanks for one more great and enjoyable video, Dr. Grande. Would you consider talking about the motivations for rape? I have heard that perpetrators do it for power and often complain that sex with their victims is bad. I'd like to understand why they do it. I know there are tons of materials to read online, and though I've tried, I wasn’t able to find anything as informative as your videos. I understand if this is something that you prefer not to discuss on a video. If this is the case, are there any books or online articles that you could recommend please? Thank you!

I would love to see a video about lying. Specifically why some people lie a lot, what makes someone a good liar and some info about what lies i.e. the what happens in a person's body/mind when they are lying.

Thank you, Dr. Grande, this was super interesting and informative. I watched the Netflix documentary/movie, which seemed to represent a consistent portrayal of his demeanor.

“It’s theorized that Ted Bundy has Some psychopathic Tendencies” - LOL, he’s literally the DEFINITION!

Dr Grande, when you acknowledge the victims trauma the case is not just anecdotal and didactic, it made me feel really empathetic with his victims and their families. This guy was truly a heartless monster ! Thanks Dr Grande !

I listen avidly to all your uploads because you're very knowledgeable, thoroughly interesting and not annoying! I appreciate your channel very much. May all Bundy's victims enjoy eternal peace and love. I hope their families are able to enjoy life .

Enjoying your videos Doc! Here are a couple of my suggestions for future vids: Zodiac killer, OJ, Wayne Williams, the Unabomber, Gary Ridgway, psychiatric medications, psychotherapy, Criminal Profiling, thanks!!

I love the work you do here on this channel. I find it all to be very educational and entertaining. I feel it's very healthy for the mind to try and understand those of us that are troubled with a scientific method. I have a request but maybe difficult in that there isn't a lot of information to gather though maybe you would be better at the research. Please would you do a video on 'Rustin Parr'.

I recommend you do an overall analysis of Elliot Rodger and his killings, it would be interesting to see you make a video on a particularly young individual who had a relatively obscure motive for his terror.

Wow! Excellent overview of Bundy in Tallahassee. Like you say we don't for sure, however, there were signs that Bundy scoped out the Chi Omega house. The house had been empty all afternoon. The lock had been broken a day or so before and not fixed yet. The stack of logs had been there a few days as well. The room assignments were posted on a board near the entrance. He targeted Margaret Bowman, who fit his preferred victim type, early 20s, long dark hair, parted in the middle. He brought the pantyhose with him, they found the open packaging. Bundy was an experienced B&E man and voyeur who knew how to move quietly. He liked surprising friends by suddenly appearing behind them. Moreover, the girls were intoxicated - back then, we didn't know how much impact even a little alcohol has on a slender woman. The woman who saw Bundy by the door heard disturbances and the lights were on all over the first floor. Chi Omega was It sorority on campus at the time.

Breaking Bad please! I don't know if this is asking too much, but I'm very interested in your view of the different characters (Walter White, Skylar White, Jesse Pinkman, Hank and Marie Schrader) in that show, their personalities, the effect of what they go through has on them etc, from your professional point of view. It's "only" 68 episodes :D I think the show is very well written, and allthough it's fiction, it's still well within the scope of what can happen in life.

I was kind of baffled by the bipolar diagnosis that was mentioned in the netflix documentary. He seemed very well organized and I've never encountered bipolar people with such methodical organized personalities, but ofcourse I'm not a doctor. Thanks for this interesting video.

Excellent analysis. I really enjoyed this. I mean, didn't enjoy what happened but the analysis. Thank you.

Thanks for another very interesting video! I also think Ted Bundy was particularly frightening and disturbing (but still a couple of notches behind Charles Manson in scare factor, at least to me). I did not know Bundy killed a 12 year old, and hearing that made me sick to my stomach. Regarding serial killers, I remember I saw a quite disturbing documentary a couple of years ago about the serial killer/hitman Richard Kuklinski. I think it is on youtube and was called "The Iceman" or something like it. I remember that in the last part of the documentary Kuklinski was interviewed and evaluated by a psychiatrist who, based on the interviews (which I think took a couple of days), thought Kuklinski had a combination of both psychopathic and paranoid traits.

A few thoughts: from what I've read, it appears that Bundy was stalking someone else that night and that Chi Omega was simply a crime of opportunity. Also, in my experience, psychopathy is like any other defect or injury in the body - if the condition goes untreated, the condition worsens over time. Bundy had been out of action, for lack of better terminology, for a significant period of time. This was, presumably, the longest period of time he had gone without a victim since he began killing in WA. It makes sense that his psychopathy and the rage that fueled it would have increased in severity, leading to the frenzied killings in Florida. It's also telling, in my opinion, that Bundy's murder of Kim Leach, just a few weeks after Chi Omega, was also more maniacal than his earlier killings. Based on the evidence, it appears that Bundy slashed wildly at Kim's throat and neck, as opposed to the methodical strangulations he employed on most of his other victims. In addition, Bundy's worsening psychopathy seems to have overtaken much of his ability to charm and con victims into willingly entering his traps. Based on reports from Florida, Bundy approached other potential victims but he could no longer adequately disguise his warped personality and the women were able to escape his clutches.

I've always been especially creeped out by Bundy. Two of his victims lived by me in Utah when he got them. There was an officer in an unmarked car parked in front of his house working the night shift and saw a vw bug drive by him with headlights off. He had a call come in and started going to that location instead when he "accidentally" -I believe it was Divine Intervention- turned down the wrong street and saw that same vw parked in a driveway where he knew 3 teen girls were there alone (he knew them and their parents) while their parents were on vacation. So he put on his flashing lights and the vw took off and there was a chase where this officer ended arresting him. He was released the next day since they didn't know who he was at the time. But I've always thought how in the world did Bundy know those 3 girls were home alone that night? That is very haunting! As is everything else he did.

Interesting assessment. My feelings are he was smart enough to know that he wouldn’t last on the run 🏃 so he took things farther hoping to commit as many murders as possible before being caught.

The night of the Chi Omega killings was a frenzied, disorganized rampage. This was not Bundy's usual MO which was deliberate and much effort put into avoiding detection. IMO the fact he'd been in prison for a long time, the stress of being on the run and his frustration being unable to go back to his old MO were probably all factors.

I really enjoy this format, thank you

Hello, Dr. Grande, I was wondering what you think about industrial-organizational psychology? I'm trying to figure out what to do for graduate school and I was wondering about that career path. Also, I get the "INTP" result when I take online MBTI tests, and so I read psychologist Dr. A.J. Drenth's book, "The INTP: Personality, Careers, Relationships, & the Quest for Truth and Meaning." In it, Dr. Drenth (who is an INTP) describes psychology as a bit too touchy-feely for him, and attempts to guide INTPs towards careers dealing with computers. How do you feel about a career in psychology specifically from an INTP perspective? Thank you--I love your videos, PasDeChat

wow - sooo interesting and a lot of stuff I didn't know. love your channel, thank you!

Great video, good sir ! If you watch Ted being his own lawyer, its mind boggling. The judge hated to sentence Ted because he said, not verbatim but, "You would've made a great lawyer but you chose the other side of the law" . Ted would complain about the lighting in his cell, they had to basically cater to him, because he was his own counsel & they had to give him proper solutions according to the law, as lawyers privileges, or something? And then he could find ways to escape lol Watching the Netflix docu-series about Ted is very compelling & it relays more details about his, self counseling & jail time, opposed to only the murders.

I, too, suffer from (complex) PTSD after decades of DV. Have been in therapy twice a week for eleven years now. I can't imagine anything scarier or more horrific than being forced to sit in a room with my abuser while he questioned me. Those poor girls. I'm glad he's gone.🏵️

I’ve described my father as a Ted Bundy type of character. It’s the Mr Charming side of the psychopath that fools too many. Thank goodness for mental health practitioners. Love your videos Doc 👏🏻

Great video . I find it hard to believe that the big five personality traits would have much impact when someone is compulsively committing this sort of crime. I've seen interviews with Bundy and I don't think he has any insight or understanding around why he acted as he did so we may be on a hiding to nothing trying to understand his motivations. I don't think anyone with even a passing knowledge of themselves could act as he did I wonder if he went so far because he knew he'd be in jail for life very soon - was he trying to attack as many as possible before it was too late? It's also possible that he let his 'standards' slip because he was drunk from the bar

I heard that Bundy was either misdiagnosed or not diagnosed with psychopathy, because he had empathy. He had empathy, it was explained, because he understood that his victims suffered under torture. That sounds rediculous to me, using the wrong definition of empathy.

The law is supposed to protect victims. He should NEVER have had the ability to interview victims, especially for hours at a time and/or multiple times. That’s cruel and EXTREMELY damaging psychologically. It must have been very confusing, as well, to see the man who committed such vile acts against them and/or their friends/sorority sisters given what must have seemed like at least respect enough to be able to carry out interviews with them while dressed, as I imagine as he was at the trial and whenever doing his duties as a “lawyer,” in a suit.

I lived in Ballard(Seattle Washington) in the late 1980’s during the Green River Killer cycle. I even wrote a paper on the GRK for my Human Studies class in 8th grade. Gary Ridgeway had been killing for several years by 1987, and in 1988/89 desperate investigators requested Ted Bundy assistance in helping the GRK investigation team. The two detectives who were researching Serial killer behavior models recorded those Interviews with Ted. Absolutely Fascinating and absolutely Horrifying…..

In the rare footage video on RU-vid he seems a bit manic. Great video, very informative todd

12:54 I can’t believe that kind of thing is possible. Can’t imagine what that must of been like for those women.

I’ve read lots about Ted. One thing you didn’t mention is the use of alcohol to “get mean”. They way I understood his behavior is that the booze lowered his inhibitions and made him even more glib and charming, but also bought the rage closer to the surface.

Thank you for trying to put some reasoning to the nightmare that was Bundy, and giving light to the caustic ripple effect caused by people like him. Listening to his own words in interviews, I was really stunned to learn that he did not truly have an answer as to why he committed these horrible crimes. He liked to kill by his own admission, but he never offered any satisfying answer as to why. He just speculated this or that. "Anger" or "pornography". But I believe that one day soon practical research-minded people like you Dr. Grande will definitively answer that question, and be able to prove it. This is important work that you do, and I appreciate that you are making your insights accessible to me and many other regular people.

I found this really interesting. Great video!!!

Hi Dr Grande, could you have a look at the Madeline Mcann case please. Just subscribed, enjoying the content. 👍🏻

How anyone can give Dr. G's videos a Thumb down is beyond my understanding?! Do they know Something Dr. G does not know about??

Can I suggest that you take a look at the Yorkshire ripper case it's very interesting cheers Barry from England

I can't believe I never knew that the Survivor committed suicide after the first anniversary that is absolutely heartbreaking. I've been through a severely traumatic situation where I was kidnapped, assaulted and left for dead days after surviving a near death altercation at the hands of the same man so I know all about PTSD. I've been at those lows and I can only wish that her soul is finally at peace... I couldn't imagine Witnesses the after effects of something like that... May God truly rest her soul

Thank you for doing this as to what was psychologically going on. I read about that doctor saying she thought he was bipolar.

I am NOT a Ted Bundy supporter. That said, his childhood was a debacle. Curious about your thoughts on that?

You have such good information. Thus was and is so sad. How can someone do that! What he did was just awful. They have to have PTSD. I never even thought of the mental health part. He sat during his trial looking so pompous. I would have been so scared if I were him. He wasn't though and appeared to be relaxed and happy to be in court.

How about examining the behavior and mental health factors of Richard Speck who killed 8 student nurses in Chicago in 1966?

This was an extra scary episode! I didn't know the details of these murders. Sounds very much like mania in this case! As if he was on drugs or something. Completely out of his mind. Frightening! In countries of war, we see people commit crimes. I had the impression, that human beings are dangerous creatures. We can get used to anything, if long enough exposed to it. We become desensitized. I don't know how much this idea is true or backed up by science. It seems like, this is the only subject, that doesn't involve emotionally charged comments. All people unite in terror! All are on the same page. What's frightening is frightening. It's really hard to lead conversations with no emotional responses. Keeping everything scientific is a great way of holding it together.

Always speaking with grace for all victims dr grande always stands besides us

Your calmness makes me question your ability to experience fear It seems you cannot be manipulated

Great breakdown, my only addendum would be that he had previously killed multiple victims. Janice Ott and Denise Naslund were both kidnapped from lake sammamish and killed at the same location just a few miles away. I believe he also admitted that Denise went through the horror of witnessing Janice's murder or body before he turned his attention on her.

Very interesting. Great video

I think that when Ted committed the Chi Omega murders that he had become completely unhinged. If you look at his earlier murders they were more methodical and organized. After escaping from jail in Colorado and traveling cross country to Florida, his charismatic pretty boy persona was fading. He was under stress because he had little money and couldn't focus enough to get a job which he said was his intent. By this time he was falling apart and being reckless. He had always been organized and cunning. Now he was just in a rage. He was caught on a traffic violation and the police didn't know who he was at the time he was arrested. The "old" Ted never would have been caught by a simple traffic stop. He would have conned his way out of it.

First off I think he was drunk which explains ALOT. Second, as an escaped convict his mask was gone and he knew he was on borrowed time so gone were the days of the careful organized Ted with charm and a cast feigning helplessness preying on the maternal instinct. If murder is like a drug to these people then Chi Omega seems like a late stage addict on their last leg with the mindset they have nothing to lose so they just devour everything in their path before they are stopped. Love your channel. It's a breath of fresh air. Maturity on RU-vid who'd of thunk it?

A video on Gary Ridgway would be very interesting.

Goodmorning Dr Grande. I'm so glad I stumbled on this one while listening to your videos, I personally don't believe he was manic during this crime, I actually believe he was very intelligent, not overly, but more normal then people may put him into that category, obviously I don't mean he didn't do anything wrong, or that it wasn't sick, and I'm not saying he wasn't sick to a degree, but the scale of rating someone "sick" is if they knew right from wrong, not if they say they hear voices, it's more complex then that, so I believe he very well knew what he was doing, and I think this was so past his "normal" mo that alone screams how much he knew what he was doing at the time. I believe it changed so much because he had already been caught, it wasn't a time where he hadn't just come from jail, and knew very well people knew what he was up to, to a degree, and made that choice as a last hoorah so to speak. I agree he had issues, mental illness for sure, and personal demons, I mean who wouldn't that can do 1/3 that he's admitted and been accused of, but that doesn't mean he belonged in a insane asylum for life, he had mental issues, he was very sick, but he knew right from wrong, and because of our wonderful, amazing justice system we have here in America not without faults, deserved death, they didn't kill a man who needed treatment, I sometimes think he was so aware that he begged for death, and in a way freed him from those urges because he knew they were wrong, if he didn't he wouldn't have kept trying to hide the crimes, or go through time after time of trying to hide his identity, even after he was caught.

No sense of morals, responsibility or self respect. These were the primary ingredients of who and what this person was.

Hello, Dr. Grande! 🙋🌵🪴🌵🪴 Hope you're doing well! Thank You!

I read somewhere that Bundy believed he was invisible at times, and that this enabled him to carry out such risky crimes. I don't put any weight in his having Dissociative Identity Disorder, but rather a kind of derealization/depersonalization. And i get a similar sense from Chris Watts. To me, a human is incapable of doing such things without having an extreme detachment from what they are doing. It's almost as if, in the process of harming/killing another (perhaps in ruminating about it as well), they feel they become present for a moment, and the invisibility goes away, as they force their existence onto another to such a degree as to take their life from them.

Another aspect that would be very interesting psychologically is how andy why Bundy returned to his killing. He initially made a resolution to stop, keep it low profile and find a regular job, but reportedly changed his mind when the first employer wanted him to produce an ID. I fint that very unconvincing.

I'd never heard about that poor girl across from ms. Levy and when you mentioned the busted lock, I wonder if she invited him to the house or somehow interacted with him that night. Of course there doesn't have to be a basis in reality for survivor's guilt, but it was just striking.

Could you review the Leopold and Loeb case? Thank you

Dr Grande has a very soothing voice.

Dr please look up Mickey and Mallory from Natural Born Killers. Might be a couple you find interesting.

Excellent video!!

Dr. Grande, I’m interested to know what your opinion is regarding the relationships Ted Bundy had with his girlfriend Elizabeth Kendall and wife Carole Ann-Boone. Do you think he ever cared for them or had emotional attachment? Or is it more likely that he was trying to blend in or used his relationships for some kind of gain?

I think Ted Bundy just happened to be a very rare, yet perfect storm.

Appreciated the "ripple effect" of Bundy's actions. The victims suffering survivor's guilt, his trial interviews, PTSD, etc.

If I man/woman (could be either but I’ll use he hereafter as it’s easier) ever tries to get you to help him (this one I’ve heard of occurring with men, not so much women, and not only an MO of Bundy but other rapists/traffickers) do something in very close proximity to or inside his car, like putting groceries away, as he has a cast on his arm or something of the sort, find someone else to help him with you. If his interest wanes the moment you show hesitation or invite another individual over, you may have just avoided being kidnapped for his own purpose or for human trafficking. A man may also approach you and your car in a parking lot and stand on the passenger’s side while talking to you as you go to unlock the car and get in. Go back to where you were or wherever others are. He may be trying to get inside the car. If you have children with you too as you’ll need to unlock the back doors and he could easily grab a child and hold (s)he hostage, forcing you to drive somewhere as he holds the child in the backseat. If someone in a mall parking lot tells you to park around the back or some other more deserted area and even if he’s wearing a parking person vest or something don’t trust him. Leave and report him to the store and police or park at the entrance of the store and go in and report him. This has been repeatedly reported as a human trafficking kidnapping scheme. If anyone has other tips leave them as comments.

Some people feel that he came to Florida to get the death penalty. What do you think? As usual your commitment to apply diagnostic criteria truly enjoyed Thanks Dr..Todd Grande I

Could you do a video on HH Holmes and Robert Lee Yates??

I grew up in Tallahassee and this happened when I was a kid. The whole county was gripped with fear as murder just didn’t happen here when I was a kid, much leas a aerial killer on the loose. When Bundy was executed it was at the peak of stranger danger and his actions had a long lasting impact on Tallahassee and Lake City. Edit: just moved in a few blocks away from where this happened. I remember when they finally tore the building down. Tallahassee had a candle light ceremony the night before, and a celebration the night of the destruction of the old Chi Omega house.

had no idea about this portion of ted’s case when i went to fsu a few years ago. went thru sorority recruitment for laughs & remember getting to the chi o house. the place has some of the worst energy oozing off of it; the best way i could describe is dark, icky, suffocating. couldn’t put my finger on it, but needed to get out asap. any time i went thru campus, id make sure to avoid the chi o house. it wasn’t until a few weeks later a girl told me about the murders and all of the vibes made sense. they renovated the exterior but somehow it only adds to the horror: a blood red door a constant reminder of the crime years ago.

Fascinating! Thank you for this insight. I hope I never meet someone like this.

Is there a video of Ed Gein? If not could you please do one! 😄

One of the chi omega victims was sexually assaulted as well, so he wasn't just walking through killing, he stopped to sexually assault one victim.

Could circumstances/opportunity have played a role in the change in MO? For most of his crimes out west he had access to a vehicle with a valid title, secure living space and knowledge of dump site locations. In Florida in spite of stolen credit cards he did not have the cash to pay for his rented room. Along with being on the verge of homelessness, he was having to rely on stolen vehicles for transportation. His old MO was less workable in Florida.