"I didn't know how to parent a genius." MAN, that hit like a ton of bricks. I think a lot of parents push hard to drive greatness, but very often forget that sometimes that leads to conflict and resentment.
Scenes like this and the one with Sam and his dad make me confused why critics are hating on this season. Acting’s been great and so many references to earlier seasons. I love this season and this scene and just Nate’s arc in general it’s been so relatable
tbh this is the worst season so far, it fels like theres no general plot, everyone is doing their own shit, also where tf is ted? i swear i dont remember a single decent scene with him this season
@@Defound I think it hasn’t been so consistent I mean we got episodes like this one and the Amsterdam one which for me were amazing and then we got episodes like ep 8 which for me was the worst of the whole show
The season has been kind of disjointed in my opinion with lots of half explored storylines but it still has a lot of heart and the last couple episodes have been great
Nate's like 40 years old and still finding ways to blame his cowardice and lack of judgement on anyone but himself. Boy needs to go to a therapist and start handing out apologies yesterday. Just so sick of seeing him on screen at this point.
@@erikralph adults dealing with consequences from their immediate family is one of the major themes of this whole show. I think you’ve missed the point tbh
@@rat4992 All I'm saying is he has yet to do anything redeemable. There's two episodes left of the entire series and he's nothing but a miserable sack at this point. Well frankly he's been a miserable sack the entire series but that's beside the point. He's out of time for me to care.
@@erikralph maybe take into consideration what it takes for people to turn into "miserable sacks". Everyone whos had a tough childhood will become broken adults. Its not an easy thing to turn around, some people take years before they can become better
@@progfrogg True, which is why they should have maybe taken all of that into consideration beforehand. Like I said, there are 2 episodes left. Of the entire series. No season 4, no bonus random xmas episode that releases randomly in July. The series is over. There's just not enough time to truly redeem him. He's been a pompous cunt for 2 seasons now, blaming everything on daddy and a quick "Sorry Ted" isn't gonna fix that in my mind.
Such a brilliant scene. Every boy wants to grow up to be like the dad figure in his life and make him proud. We do the best we can for the people we love. "I just want [you] to be happy" might be the best line in the entire series. And that's saying something
This scene broke me when I watched it. I had this exact conversation with my Dad when I was in my early twenties. We were at odds for my entire life until that point and then in one conversation we broke through all of that and finally understood one another. He was the working class parent who worked his ass off for his whole life to provide for us, and I was the genius child who could do pick up any language, sport, instrument, school subject with ease. I always thought he resented me for it but it took a bit of maturity on my part and some vulnerability on his to understand he was parenting me the only way he knew how. Learn to see your parents as people and your relationship with them will be better for it.
The problem is we forget our parents are humans who too can make mistakes like our friends or colleagues do. We put them on a pedestal and treat their mistakes as a sin, whereas to err is human
My dad was exactly the same. I'm so glad you got that with your father, not everyone was so lucky. Just as I was starting to piece it together and pluck up the courage to talk to my parents about it when I was 21/22, he was diagnosed with a grade 4 brain tumor, doctors gave him 6 months to live. It felt like telling my dad all the ways he'd hurt and failed me didn't seem appropriate, so I let it lie. But the death wasn't quick, or easy. It was slow, agonising, watching a previously athletic cyclist and fell runner rot away. He died a day shy of three years from his diagnosis, and I never told him. Six years later, and it's still eating me.
One of the hardest things to reconcile in life is who are parents truly are vs who we wish they were. I know I still have expectations for them, but at the end of the day they are who they are, and that’s not a bad thing. And I cannot complain because their parenting made me a content, capable young man
I've had this exact talk with my dad and its...complicated on how that hits home. You love them for the compliment and for believing you, but you kinda hate them for the additional pressure that adds.
Until you become a dad, you don't realize how hard it is. There is no manual they give you at the hospital, no book that shows you. And culturally, it is hard for many dad's to tell their children how proud they are of them. Or how much they love them. We all want our children to be successful, be rich, do things that fulfill them. But ultimately, this hits home so hard because we just want the the most important thing: I just want my son to be happy.
The thing about opportunities (especially those given from parents who never had them) is that one should also have the option to decline them if they're not what the person truly wants. And that's fine too. Be proud of your kid when they exhibit a skill but be accepting if they only want to take the skill so far and instead do other things.
That can be really tough to deal with - all those years of seeing this one person as dangerous, scary, someone you have to be careful around - and it's suddenly gone and you find yourself with all that baggage and nobody that you can let out what's been pent up inside you at. The person who you were so afraid of just doesn't exist anymore. That happened to a friend of mine when his alcoholic and abusive father got cleaned up. He literally became a completely different person. It was something he was still dealing with over a decade after the change happened.
I have never seen this show, but heard it's great. I love Nick's sweet, creative spirit on Taskmaster Season 17, and looked him up. He really is a genius! And he plays violin (as does one of my sons)! Great scene, mentioned by Nick as especially meaningful, probably moreso being a Dad himself! Bravo!
Reading the comments......RU-vid as therapy......some of it very moving indeed. Thanks to those who have shared. Hopefully the writers see these sort of reactions to their work.
Every boy just wants to make his father proud. Credit to Nick Mohammed, he gave so many quick glances and facial expressions across all three seasons that showed his pain at never winning his father’s approval (or so he thought). I understand why some people think this scene is a cop-out to all of that trauma, but when taken in context, it’s just a first step, and an important one, to healing the past. It’s far easier to forgive ignorance than it is to forgive malice.
I remember asking my dad to read a chapter in a book I had wrote. It was one chapter, made of hustled together ideas and words that I had put off writing for a few years. And once he was done, I asked him what he thought, on a scale of 1-10. He said overall, it was a 9/10. And then he added that for my age, I was 14 at the time, it was really good. Those were the most comforting words he ever said to me.
Something I told my parents when they started to question how things went when I was younger Life doesn't come with an instruction manual We do the best we can with what we have
It’s a good moment but I kind of wished they’d split the conversation up so that Nate confronts him and then later on, his dad tells him what’s up. It feels a little too trivial that this generational trauma can be addressed after one time
good fathers are like this including my own. they push us to be better than them. it took me a long time to figure that out before he died. this is a great scene. i feel for both nate and lloyd. the latter came from a difficult upbringing and he didn't know what to do with nate. nate didn't know how to react to that. this is the start of healing for both of them as nate is making steps to do things right such as that thing for will.
Surprisingly this show was mostly about fathers and sons. I didn’t realize thing until 2 seasons in. And Jason sudeikus confirmed this in interviews. I balled through this scene and it still gets me. It’s my belief that the entire world could be drastically improved through watching some Ted lasso….
"Squandering my potential and wasting my privilege", pretty much verbatim what I was told throughout my childhood by teachers and parents who didn't care enough to guide, only to demean. Nate is an unambiguously dislikeable character but the show's creators made it very clear as to how he got there. Parents are just other human beings in the end. Reaching that realisation is part of growing up - they're just making it up as they go along, just like everyone else. And everyone makes mistakes. Nate's character needed this scene as part of his redemption. And I think quite a few viewers out there probably needed it too.
After I moved out from my parents home, they threw out all my photographs (35mm film hobbyist) I ever took, I definitely couldn't see them keep a violin.
If what I recall from band practice is correct, instruments are a lot more expensive than you would expect. And if his dad missed him playing, I can see them being reluctant to let it go.
I mean - people look at the emotions and the feel-good factor and ignore the fact that his dad made a complete U-turn in a span of episodes. I love this show, but this season did have major faults
"i just want my son to be happy" seems a HUGE stretch for a person to say who actively disparaged his son's accomplishments, froze him out, and was dismissive of him his entire life (this was evident in the first season). totally not believable for daddy to suddenly and conveniently have his 'come to Jesus' moment and in one small conversation fix everything just because Nate happened to be playing his violin on this particular day. he played violin growing up in that house, ferchrissake. only now does daddy express this sentiment?? i would have bought it if the father's realization was written over a couple episodes but this is pushing it.
Personally, this moment worked for me, but I agree with you oddly enough. One moment in this season that really made me dislike Nate’s dad is when he refers to Nate having a conversation with his mom and sister as, “Girl talk.” I’m probably reading into it too much, but that just felt unnecessarily mean on his part to me. Again, though, this scene really did work for me.
@@calowenby1654 you’re right that his dad was mean and, I thought, snide when he said “girl talk”. I think Nate might have even had a tiny almost imperceptible reaction which he covered up quickly. I think this was deliberate because the camera did focus on Nate’s face when he said it. I definitely don’t think you are reading into it. But this is yet another reason why I don’t buy the sudden sorry. I still think his father is a jerk.
I buy it only because I think his Dad was hard on him all his life and Nat never really "succeeded" to his fathers standard. So when Nate was unhappy, his father could blame it on, "well, if only he'd succeed, he'd have what he wants and be happy". Then Nate became the coach of West Ham, and did incredible.... even by his Dad's standard, a success.... and he was clearly still miserable, maybe more miserable than ever. For me, I could see his Dad eventually realizing, shit, maybe Nate isn't miserable because he's failing... maybe he's miserable because I've always made him feel that way, and trying to change. I get why some people think its a stretch though.
'I didn't know how to parent a genius' - wow. They paid someone to write this lol. I am happy that people find this show enjoyable but, good lord, it's terrible for me. x
