Stiles: You want to get the band back together, you don't leave out the drummer. Ironic cause Dylan was a drummer in a band and he was technically kicked out.
Awww😢I understand Scott being upset!it's not easy to forgive or trust to someone who was so close to you and literally tried to kill you!I mean I wouldn't either! but Liam!Poor baby😭😭💔💔💔
In truth he would be slaughtered or in this case someone strict and won’t kill maybe like Satomi or Talia Hale, he’d be kicked out left for the wolves to eat. Pun not intended and wolves I mean... yeah other werewolves and hunters. He’d be an omega. He’s damn lucky Scott is kind to at least forgive him but Scott kind of spoiled him by making promises he can’t keep and Liam was sort of a reflection of Season 1-2 Scott when it came to Allison. Only difference is Scott knows there’s a line and Liam went over the bloody line for a girl who admitted when they were chased by the Beast that she doesn’t trust him and treated him like crap after he was trying to be nice. And she asked for her sister when she died not for you to save her Liam by taking a life. Come on!
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@@bigbywolf1330 I think so as well. 🤔 Scott was clumpsy but everybody would be glad to have him and the rest of the pack as well. Hayden is so annoying, don't start with her, please...
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@@jindrichsander7271 Uhm... no? You wouldn't be an alpha for long, if you didn't do anything in a situation like that. Scott's pack is very special. That's a fact.
@ I don't care about scotts pack I said that in other packs wolves would go to kill their alpha when the alpha is weak THAT IS A FACT marco(deucalions beta) tried to kill deucalion after he was blinded, derek killed Peter when peter was weak and the twins killed their alpha when he was beaten by them being formed together (alltho that was more for the revenge than anything else) scott is weak compared to other alphas in the show thats another fact even tho it was never stated why exactly that is the case everybody just assumes scott is holding back which is not true based on for example when be was trying to beat the mafia werewolf that was after the silver finger, he literally just stared at scotts efforts for a good few seconds before beating scott "you have the eyes of the alpha but where is your strenght?" scott is weak for one reason or another. You think scott even has a pack? stiles is human lydia is a banshee and the only other werewolf besides scott in the group is liam (I am not counting theo because he isn't 100% werewolf and he isn't technically a part of the pack) oh and maybe malia but you need an alpha and 3 other werewolfs to form a pack which empowers every single member of the pack otherwise its technically not a pack but a group of friends, liam should have killed scott thats my opinion
They all treated Scott horribly this season, remember in season 3 when it was a full happy pack Scott Allison Isaac Ethan and Aiden kindof Stiles Kira kinda Lydia and Derek mostly and then they all abandoned Scott in season 5 most of it atleast Liam left him kindof like a brat when Scott's tried to help him and Scott had bad asthma then so he felt helpless so no I would've kicked Liam out of that pack for acting spoiled over a girl who hated him most of his life
Exactly! But Scott did spoil Liam by giving into Liam’s sad eyes by making promises he knows he can’t keep like saving Hayden. It’s one of those times where you had to say no or you can’t make any promises knowing you’re not sure how the outcome will turn out. Also being an alpha is stressful as it does take its toll. Scott helps everyone when no one helps him.
Liam was fully understand Theo's control. His girlfriend was dying, his only hope was Scott which didnt work out and the anger from super moon. Theo directed it towards Scott by earning his trust
@@tonifilmt3285 bear with me cause I suck at long explanations. Scott plotted with Derek to kill Peter back in season 1. And Peter killed Laura which kick started the events of Season 1 Laura was the Alpha of the Hale pack before the events of season 1. at the time her pack only consisted of herself, her brother Derek and their uncle Peter (Who they thought was still comatosed and in intensive care, and Cora was still thought to be dead) Peter killed Laura as I said and gained the Alpha status, making him Alpha of the Hale pack, which is not really much of a pack with only him and Derek left, so in a stroke of luck a young Scott Mccall encountered Alpha Peter in the woods at night and got bitten by him So that's 2 betas, who then for the rest of Season 1 plot to kill Peter. Fast forward to season 4 and Scott accidentally bit Liam to save him from falling, turning Liam into Scott's first Beta, who in this Season, plotted to kill him too to save the girl he likes.
I feel so bad for both of them.I mean yeah I can TOTALLY understand Scott it’s hard cause he loves Liam like his son and he tried to kill him but I can als understand Liam her was sad and angry and wasn‘t really himself:(
I know this comment is Really old lol sorry! but what Liam did was wrong but you have to cut him some slack he was heavily affected by the supermoon and was completely overwhelmed by his emotions over Hayden and that right there only Angered him more because Scott didn't wanna give Hayden the bite to turn her
He's giving him a chance though, Liam made a mistake following his own desire to do something to the exclusion of all else, Scott's stipulation was 'do nothing' really let's people think about the weight of what they have done, and shows scott that Liam is willing to take instructions that he doesn't like
I can't believe you guys are saying he should cut Liam slack, how much more slack can Scott cut him? For 1, he never retaliated and tried to kill him back, second, he didn't even kick him out of the pack. 3rd he said he was gonna let him help eventually, it's just that the memory was still too fresh to move on that quickly. Honestly, Liam got off easy and he never even said sorry for any of it.
Wouldn't it be cool if true alphas could take back the power, the spark, that they gave there betas. Kinda like a regular alpha can kill there beta and take there power but true ones can take it back without killing the beta.
Y'all have to cut Liam some slack here what he did was awful and not right especially to his own Alpha but he was heavily affected by the Supermoon and on top of that he was overwhelmed by emotion and wanted to take Scott's power so he could give Hayden the bite to save her In the end Liam knew what he did was wrong.. and that he shouldn't have listened to Theo
I kinda agree but he doesn't deserve forgiveness i mean he tried to kill Scott over sum bitch lol but come on wat u would of done if ur own beta tried to kill u bc u won't give his gf a bite scott actually spoke sum facts tho it's 100% chance that his bite to hayden could kill her or turn her but remember wat Peter said sum people r not made for this
And yea he was effected by the supermoon i mean i don't blame him if u watch season 1 scott had this same problem wen he saw Allison and Jackson in the car getting it in wen they wasn't just his emothions jealousy taking over
Ya my point exactly in this show’s mythology a werewolf can heavily affected the full moon and that can be enchanted by emotions such as anger and Jealousy and sadness
I understand Liam's side, but I understand Scott's as well, I'm not saying Scott shouldn't forgive Liam, just that at that moment it was too soon to trust the boy once again, specially with everything that was happening and everything that Scott had on his plate. Saying sorry won't fix anything, but at least was a start for them to get better, yet, trust once lost, is hard to get back. Also, consider that Liam' betrayal and intent of murder of Scott was the equivalent of a son trying to kill his father, I'm saying this because it has been stated before that the connection of an alpha and its beta is like that of parent and child or even stronger, so for Scott it wasn't just a friend who tried to kill him, it was the equivalent of a son or at least the closest Scott had to a son, who tried to kill him for a girl, a girl who Scott already felt guilty about.
You know what annoys me is that Scott had a hard time forgiving Liam for trying to kill him (Even though Liam kinda couldnt control it considering the full moon) Yet when Stiles kills Donovan (Who was gonna kill HIS DAD) Scott was insisting there was another way. So he gets to be all You TRIED to kill me (TRIED, but didnt) so imma be all moody and unforgiving, oh but Stiles how dare you accidently kill someone who was trying to kill your dad. like bro what
Because Theo told Scott he killed donovan out of cold blood and stiles didn't really elaborate given circumstances. He watched Liam actively try and kill him because he didn't want to potentially kill Hayden lol
The reason why scott is weaker than other alphas because he is being too nice and he has lot of weaknesses like emotions the mind set of saving everyone helping everyone this kinda things a normal alpha wouldn't do they just kill that's why they get strenghth
Liam was so wrong back stabbing scott like him 😢 ! I would say like traitor don't let the door hit on you way you're angry issues got the better of you and tried to kill your creator in a sense of a surrogate father to gain his ( Alpha Werewolf Status ) on a full moon .🌙 You got kicked out of school for wrecking your coach's vehicle. For some reason you had with brett talbot a classmate of yours. And now his leaving you to defend for yourself and find a new wolf pack. ( Brendon Rush ) found you injured for some unknown circumstances, a dead beta werewolf who saved you and defected to ( Michaelangelo Lopoil ) pack for a fresh start that never return to beacon hills goodbye ( Liam Dunbar ) 💔 !
It was a mistake to trust Theo though. It's just like Scott trusted Theo and he lied to him about Donavon' s death. He had pretenses anyway wanting to be in Scotts pack. He gets people killed and works with the dread doctors. So it's mainly Theo manipulating them and saying that he brought it upon himself you could say the same for Scott.
no no y’all got it all wrong scott wants everybody’s trust back he’s the one who broke the pack he decided to listen to Theo even tho Liam did too but Scott really was outta line that’s why he decided to help everyone
@@Anas0_ali he had much less screen time is season 5 I feel like and in season 6 he’s only the focus because stiles isn’t there as much so ofc they need someone to play second fiddle 😂 and he’s still not really doing much it’s Scott and Lydia and Mason who figure most of that stuff out
Scott is way more forgiving than me. I would have kicked Liam’s ass out of the pack. He really got lucky that Scott only gave him the cold shoulder for a little while.
