TEKKEN™8 - CDS and Zen Gameplan philosophy 

Let’s go boys another guide for Jin thanks and much appreciated.

S tier content as usual, thanks DX

You’re my hero. Master.

Jin main here. Extremely grateful for this. Been stuck at Tenryu for a month I’m gonna use these tips.

Thank u

You cant cancel CDS into ➡️➡️3️⃣ but you can cancel Zen into ➡️➡️3️⃣. Also you can cancel stance breaker into ↗️2️⃣. I find this useful quite often

2:25 this has been my main grip about people who complain about the "hurr durr jin gets free electrics" yeah he does BUT EVERY SINGLE THING THAT COMES FROM THEM IT'S LITERALLY LESSER THAN JUST RATHER DOING THE INPUT NORMALLY, the devil breaking step is useful in few little situations

engagement

You still can block 10f moves with zen cancel, you just have to cancel into neutral guard (zen -> df -> ub -> neutral). Haven't blocked a jab but have blocked a dick jab. It is very hard tho Edit: nvm canceling it into neutral isn't necessary. You just have to be really precise on both df input and ub

The changes they made to him are just strange to me, zen cancels being perhaps the strangest. Like if they want to make it a bit more challenging, then fair enough, but they also make it slower which doesn't make sense to me. I don't understand why you can't wave dash out of breaking step. I get that his launching HS was kind of infuriating to deal with, so taking its launch property is fine with me. But he already had CD4, 3... so why give him CD4, 2? Why does d3 4 3 exist? Where does this fit into my game plan? WS1, 2f having such lackluster frames makes something that COULD be a really cool tool into something that will almost never see any actual use. Not having 1, 3~3 and thus not having ff3, 1, 3~3df doesn't seem like something that NEEDED to be removed for balancing. Overall design choices to have really flashy flips and what have you, to make him more like DJ, only to still include DJ, is weird to me. Giving him crazy ghost range on ff2? Why? Changes to his HS, his parry, universally downplaying counter hit launchers across the roster, things that make him less OP are fine. I'd like to not seem like a tier whore for playing Jin. It's the weird quality of life stuff that they made worse that is frustrating. I only played a little T6, but I thought he was bursting at the seams with style in that game, even though I put zero effort into learning how to play the game. I came back during season three, I think, of T7 and really started appreciating his play style more, and getting better at using him. Then now that T8 changed him a fair bit, I feel kind of underwhelmed. It feels like he's gotten easy enough to use that he doesn't require finesse to use anymore. He's the closest to the old Jin we have though, and it's not like he's been completely overhauled, double parry into can can is still ultra satisfying, and as NSK showed me: 2+3 cancel into f3, 1 is practically the new Wombo Combo lol

do you prefer tekken 7 zen options or tekken 8? I felt tekken 7 stance to be more matured with good looking moves. Now its too much anime.

What are the inputs to get wr3 from CDS or Zen?

is CDS back 3+4 or Forward 3+4?

Awesome breakdown Eddy. Do you have twitter? Can you share the twitter link in your video description? If you don't have twitter, have you thought about setting up a dedicated twitter for your RU-vid channel? Keep up the awesome work.

Yes, because of this change, the gameplay for Jhin lost some magic and pressure. This is a very bad change, they hit the most important thing. Now we have to put pressure through bf23, zen, because of the pitiful +2 on the block. This is so bad