Henry the Young King is a really interesting and tragic character. He was said to be the greatest tourneyer Europe had ever seen, and his death was marked by many as the end of the great age of tournaments. As for his death, it happened during another rebellion, and his deathbed entreaty to see his father one last time was perceived by the elder Henry as a trick. Henry the Young King died clutching a ring his father sent as a token of forgiveness, and when Henry II heard his son had died, he cried "He hath cost me so much, but O! How I wish he had lived to cost me more!"
I get teenage rebellion, but I don't understand them wanting to seize power from their fathers. Like, your father is the King, you are fantastically wealthy compared to everyone else, you have lands and power already, virtually no responsibility compared to what you will have in the future, why are you in such a hurry? When I was a teenager I wanted to rebel against my parents, but I didn't want to seize control of the home and finances and responsibility. I was glad not to have that responsibility yet.
The contrasts starkly with the Japanese who, upon finding out that Emperor of China was known as such in English, declared it to be the English translation of their title as well because, of course, they saw themselves as equals (although this wasn’t reciprocated by the Chinese).
It's funny how Richard the Lionheart is popularly considered a great English King when he spent about 6 months of his 10 year reign actually in England.
I'm pretty sure he was openly disparaging of us as well, and he wasted shitloads of money on his crusades. He was a pretty terrible king really, but I don't think we ever really had a great king, not post 1066 at least.
Even though it failed, the "bring the heir in as junior king" thing is a solid idea as well imo. A better king than a father- out of four grown up sons, three rebelled, and the other is seen as the worst king ever.
This has probably been my favourite episode yet. Perhaps it's just the nature of the topic, but earlier episodes could get a little bogged down in a rapid succession of names. Since this episode focused around one man it made it a little easier to digest, thanks for making these this is a great channel :)
Most episodes are like this from now, only covering one or two reigns. There are some exceptions (Wars of the Roses) but the pacing is generally slower from now on.
Is that because more is known about the more recent history so it gets covered in more detail? This makes me think, when we get to the 20th century what's the pace going to be like then? Haha
Hey Man! did you hear about the new project that Indy, Lyndy, and visual history are doing in the new Timeghost channel? you should check it out and maybe join them, and this you would be a perfect addition to their team, plus having an actual Italian linguist history buff in a WW2 RU-vid super project would be fantastic! cheers mate..
5:02 Richard was actually the 3 third legitimate son of Henry (4th if you count his actual eldest son, Geoffrey). His eldest legitimate son, William died of a seizure when he was 3
You can see why John was Henry's favourite and he spoiled him into the rotten king he became. But John did name his son and successor after his father.
Well, the French king in this period was named Louis VII himself. While his son Philip II wasnt name Louis: Philip's son was named after his grandfather/Philip's father and would become Louis VIII in 1223
It's important to mention that young Henry was co-opted into kingship because otherwise he would have rebelled. Seems like Henry II was a very capable ruler, but had a knack for making people dislike him, including, and maybe especially his own family.
And as far as i understand with this video, he was a badass, because not only beat many rebels army within his differents territory, but also beat the Scotts, the french and the low countries.
In french we say "empire angevin" and angevin is the adjective of Anger and also means the inhabitants of the city Anger, the main city of the current anjou
He was also a distant grandson many times over, from Alfred the Great, from Vikings, and saw the Blood of Wessex return to the throne, through, of all places the Kings of Scotland, and was the senior remaining line of the Anglo-Saxon kings.
Henry most likely said "What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and promoted in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born clerk!"
The good old days when French men ruled their little English colony ;p. Thanks to them, the British Passport includes some French: Dieu et mon droit and honi soit qui mal y pense. Front page. Fancy! I am sure Nigel Farage, with his beautiful French last name, appreciates it :)
*"Honi soit qui mal y pense" was, I believe, Edward II's vocal response to having a lady at court's garter fly into his lap during a feast. The whole court knew they were having an affair, and Ed dared them to make anything out of it. ("Shame be to he who thinks ill of it," is the translation I read.)*
Britain has always been a diverse kingdom and a prized asset to acquire. I'm not surprised you have to cling onto any association with Britain to make yourself feel important even though this is centuries ago. Also, it also seems to be forgotten that these future kings left your country by choice.
Just a side note, the Third Crusade was actually called for at the end of Henry II’s reign, after he’d surrendered to Richard and Philip. Both English and French monarchs vowed to take up the cross and head for the Holy Land, but Henry died before he could begin, leaving Richard as king. Richard was probably the most eager monarch in Europe to take the cross, as he’d been begging his father for years to allow him to do so, but Henry has always refused, but now Richard had no one to tell him no.
Richard the lionheart alienated all of his christian allies by: Lying to the French King about marrying his sister while they were friends. Trying to installing a new prince in Antioch because the usurper attended a wedding with him. Strongarming and threatening the German contingent in a manner that led to his own imprisonment. I know that passing moral judgment against historical figures is a fruitless exercise of wasted moral energy, but Richard the lionheart was a dick.
One small note, Richard and the Phillip were not _just_ friends. I understand the imperatives of dynasty, but their is something profoundly strange about a man who continuously pesters his boyfriend to marry his sister.
@@ciaran..G haven't seen the show or read the books, but it's a decent bet that Martin was at least partially thinking about these two, if that's what happens between them.
Your videos are amazing. How you get so much detail is such a short film is incredible.. And how do you know so much?? ! Are you a professor of History? Many thanks, Nick
At 3:12 the young boy was “crowned” not “coronated” alongside his father, as the latter is not (yet* in any event) a word. * I suppose the Coronavirus could change this soon.
Out of curiosity, when you say that a certain person "effectively ruled England in Richard's name", which sense do you mean that in? Do you mean that person was, in effect, the ruler of England, or do you mean that person was an effective (i.e. able) ruler of England? Obviously, it could easily be a combination of the two, but depending on which one you had more in mind, it could put a significantly different spin on the effects of Richard's reign.
It's remarkable that the 3rd Crusade had any success at all with how heavily the odds were stacked against Richard. Sure, he didn't take Jerusalem but that's kind of like Hannibal failing to take Rome. He still won repeatedly with a smaller army that would've been wiped out by 1 loss. I'm not remotely suggesting that the Crusades or Richard as a person should be celebrated but it is a testament to what an excellent general he was.
Impressed at the accuracy of the map detailing the possesions of the Counts of Flanders. Amiens was indeed theirs at that time when they were probably at their most influential.
Quick note Richard, from my understanding did not random the Scottish king. He was payed 10,000 marks (I think) to have the previous arrangement dissolved (where he had to acknowledge English king as overlord).
As a Norman I consider the "Angevin Empire" as the most glorious moment of our history. But while Henry II was a good ruler, who managed to add Aquitaine and Britanny to his lands, Richard was a terrible king who did really little and too late to hold his possessions. If the Angevin Empire had held or even beaten the French history would be extremely different (imagine an English-French state existing for centuries)
@@henrypernoix1793 I understand what you're saying, from your point of view, but I think it's more complicated. French royal grip was really loose on its vassals, and some of them, including the Plantagenet, were more powerful than the king even. So, culturally, yes, Plantagenet were French, but so was the English nobility, since the Norman conquest. Anyway, it doesn't matter that much. I'm French, born and livng in Normandy. I just really like its history and I'm glad to live there. Hence the excitement when I see it represented ;-)
You have disturbed the dirt Uh what? You have disturbed the dirt. You have disturbed the something over the centuries *GASP* What have you done?! England must never merge with France!” Fired off of memory
Ah, nice to see another fan of Atlantis: The Lost Empire. Also, Mole's second line was, "You have disturbed the dirt! Dirt collected from around the globe spanning the centuries."
This popped up in my feed after watching Disney's Robin Hood on the weekend. One of the only channels on You Tube that actually talks at a normal pace. I usually have to speed people up or they're unbearably slow.
This vid was much improved when I slowed the speed. The guy was speaking so fast, you'd think he was in a rush to got to the toilet immediately after the vid was over :\ That said, the actual content itself was quite educational, so thanks!
This episode was quite funny as a french, as our history classes greatly speaks about Phillip Augustus role in the strengthening of the kingdom, so as soon as I heard his name I was like "oh boy the english are gonna get their ass beated "
Funny, Richard, called 'The Lionheart', spent years fighting a Civil War against his own family, bankrupted his country to finance a stupid Crusade, took the best Men in England to the 'Holy Land' and got most of them killed, left England in the hands of his despot brother John who loved oppressing the people, got captured on the way home, his ransom further bankrupted England, and yet King Richard is considered a Great King in English history! His despot Cowardly worm brother John is considered the worst King in English history, so bad that there has never been another John, but he's the one who signed the Magna Carta. Under sword point no doubt. 😀😁😆😎😃🤠😄
It is interesting that you hard mention Eleanor of Aquitaine, Henry II's wife and the mother of Henry, the Young King, Richard I, Geoffrey and John. She is one of the most fascinating women in this period of time. She helped her sons' rebel against Henry. She outlived all of them except for John and was a pivotal person in the reigns.
That’s arguable but I get what you mean . What I meant was that it wasn’t connected to the Kingdom of France in the same way Charlemagne was . And the Plantagenet dynasty ORIGINATED from France but that doesn’t mean every member of it was French . It’s like saying Queen Elizabeth is German just because her family came from Hanover . So I believe while the court was mostly held in France the main piece of the empire was England because their title of highest rank came from ruling England and I don’t think it can be abbreviated to either France or England since both regions had influence over the empire . Evidence from Wikipedia “The adoption of the Angevin Empire label marked a re-evaluation of the times, considering that both English and French influence spread throughout the dominion in the half century during which the union lasted. “ Wikipedia isn’t 100% accurate but this is fair to presume considering the court was largely held in France and the kings who ruled it were of largely English birth .
Feh. In Ck2 half the arrangements that happen in history couldn't happen(Or would play out very differently). Sure, it allows for entirely different kettles of crazy, but I can't see something like the Angevin happening, or being lost the way it was, or something like the Hundred Years War.
@Veljko Simovic *House of York and House of Lancaster were cadet branches of The Plantagenets; Richard II (grandson and heir of Edward III) was last King of England from main line.*
What I want to know is, how did the people in the France of that time identify themselves? Did they regard themselves as ‘French’ or what? It would be interesting to get a picture of the ethnic makeup of the ‘Angevin Empire’ in general.
By this time a French identity definitely developed. Phillip II Augustus would be the first monarch to style himself as “King of France” rather than the King of the Franks.
Richard's mother Eleanor of Aquitaine was Regent and effectively ruled England with the help of the Justiciars and churchmen. Don't decry loss of rights for women and then neglect to recognize their accomplishments.
