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TEN Transport Evolved News Episode 486. Elon's Threat, ID.7 Delayed Outside EU, Cybertruck Busted 

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@TechnologyJunkie
@TechnologyJunkie 4 месяца назад
As much as I disagree with the system of government in China, if they build a basic auto (preferably a hatch back) or truck, I'd be interested. No 4g or 5g, blue tooth for music and, oh yes, published service manuals. The North American manufacturers are not providing inexpensive vehicles. Everything is hugely expensive and luxurious. A car like my 2004 Toyota Echo or 2013 Kia Rio Hatch would be fine.
@MooseOnEarth
@MooseOnEarth 4 месяца назад
Counter examples by North American brands: Ford Fiesta (like Rio) or Ford Fiesta Sedan (like Echo): inexpensive. Alternative: Ford EcoSport. Chevrolet Bolt: inexpensive hatchback. Chevrolet Spark, Spark EV, Sonic, Aveo, Trax: inexpensive hatchback Jeep Renegade, Jeep Avenger Can't really see, what you mean.
@robertkirchner7981
@robertkirchner7981 4 месяца назад
@@MooseOnEarth Fiestas discontinued. Bolt discontinued. Sonic, Spark, Aveo discontinued.
@alanrickett2537
@alanrickett2537 4 месяца назад
It's almost like Americans don't buy them
@MooseOnEarth
@MooseOnEarth 4 месяца назад
@@robertkirchner7981 No problem, they are discontinued. Fiesta, Bolt, Sonic, Spark, Aveo still available as used cars. He never said, he wanted a new car. In case, he does: Ford EcoSport, Jeep Compass/Renegade, Chevrolet Trax, or upcomingChevrolet Bolt EV Gen2 (2025). Just look for the best match among the cars available.
@CrissaKentavr
@CrissaKentavr 4 месяца назад
@@alanrickett2537 If they're not available, did Americans have a chance to buy them?
@esprit1st75
@esprit1st75 4 месяца назад
Thank you for another informative show. Interestingly this is the first show I've seen mentioning that the Union downvote in Alabama was a very close one.
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
It was 56% against - but the UAW has filed a complaint accusing MB of intimidating staff
@Milhouse77BS
@Milhouse77BS 4 месяца назад
I gave up on Volvo EX30 preorder. Went for cheapest Model Y instead. Cheaper at equivalent trim, and larger carp and back seat room. More importantly, made of mostly USA parts in USA.
@archigoel
@archigoel 4 месяца назад
Tesla tech is also superior, most if it is internal so not customer facing so most can't see it.
@Milhouse77BS
@Milhouse77BS 4 месяца назад
@@archigoel yes, EX30 about 2/3 efficiency of Tesla.
@metricstormtrooper
@metricstormtrooper 4 месяца назад
If you need bigger "Fish" then you do what you've got to do.
@ImpactWench
@ImpactWench 4 месяца назад
I mean, to the extent that I have any control over whose wallet my money ends up in, I'm gonna do my best to make sure it's not Mr. Musk's. 🤷🏻‍♀
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@ImpactWenchThat is simply stupid. Yes, you. You do not pay Elon. Elon does not get any money from Tesla and you deny the best product just because of your personal „feelings“. Stuff them and stop being stupid.
@rabidpb
@rabidpb 4 месяца назад
Theres something wrong with the units of the 2nd-to-last story. 7.5MWh could reasonably be used by a single vehicle in a year. TWh seems a more plausible unit for both rail and road vehicle numbers.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
7,5 MWh is a bit much, but with my hopefully soon being delivered Cybertruck in Europe that sounds about right.
@LaserFur
@LaserFur 4 месяца назад
I've had the miserable experience of trying to reuse a power cord that was made with copper plated AL wire, but that would be a option to reduce charger cable theft since it would annoy the recycling companies.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Good idea!
@concinnus
@concinnus 4 месяца назад
It would make the cable thicker, thus stiffer, which is something Tesla has worked hard to avoid, and the other cables can't stand to get any worse on.
@scanspeak00
@scanspeak00 4 месяца назад
The thief wont care.
@concinnus
@concinnus 4 месяца назад
@@scanspeak00 The first time, they won't know. But after that they'll care because they got 1/3 of the money they expected.
@LaserFur
@LaserFur 4 месяца назад
@@concinnus worse than that the combined metal has no value so they not only get nothing, but they also get a bad rep with the recycling place.
@bazoo513
@bazoo513 4 месяца назад
10:30 - Of course it is. We in Europe are not as thoroughly afflicted with SUV/truck madness as Americans are.
@avsystem3142
@avsystem3142 4 месяца назад
EV charging stations are poorly designed by engineers without any street smarts. The charging cable should have always been behind locked panels except when electronically unlocked when needed for charging, The exact same problem will occur to the urban charging pole product, except there is a lot more copper to steal with the long cables,
@jacobcarlson4010
@jacobcarlson4010 4 месяца назад
Call me crazy if you like, but I prefer the “bring your own cable” way that Europe does it with L2. Yes, DCFC is a different beast; but a halfway decent engineer could likely make it work.
@Hyfly13
@Hyfly13 4 месяца назад
Still getting 300 miles on a Kia e-Niro after three years which is OVER the quoted range but we mostly slow charge at 2.2kW on the granny charger.
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 4 месяца назад
Little excuse for not electrifying rail. Proven for well over a century - without the break in interest suffered by e-cars.
@DavidAMcC
@DavidAMcC 4 месяца назад
Electric railroads are great but they cost a lot to set up and it would mean a whole new fleet. Commuter railroads and the Northeast Corridor have proven that electric works as have railroads in Europe, Japan and China. Diesels are (relatively) inexpensive and already in use with an infrastructure set up to service them so the railroads will not give them up.
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 4 месяца назад
even decades ago when i lived in germany, most trains there were electric. some were diesel-powered, and i can't remember seeing a steam train in real life.
@shanefiddle
@shanefiddle 4 месяца назад
Electric trains are sooooo much cheaper in the long run. It is the upfront cost that has kept companies from investing. Today's profit is all that matters to the shareholders, they do not plan for long term profit or environmental sustainability. It should be a punishable crime.
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 4 месяца назад
Electric rail in the US is used pretty much exclusively for subway systems in the handful of large cities that have them; through 3rd rail. We used to have overhead powered trolleys in almost EVERY city, but GM, Michelan, and Standard Oil bought almost all of them, shut them down, scrapped the cars, and conspired to sell the municipalities diesel busses. Long distance rail is actually primarily for industrial use and shipping. There are a few communter lines, but the bulk of rail usage in the US is frieght. And the rail lines themselves are not public assets, but are owned by the rail companies, who lease out sections of their lines for commuter rail use. And there are ALOT of rail lines in the US. 160,000 miles of them. That means it needs 160,000 miles of overhead lines and supporting towers to electrify it all. Enough to go around the entire Earth four times. Who is paying for that?
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 4 месяца назад
@@patreekotime4578 it's not like it is one or the other. electrifying a line does not mean that diesel trains can't use that line. so electrify those lines bit by bit, then use the money you save to electrify more lines. that may take a couple of years but it has to be done. also, the earth's circumference is 40000 km, not 40000 miles.
@stanislavjaracz
@stanislavjaracz 4 месяца назад
Massive thumb up for reminding us that rail electrification is overlooked in the USA.🚈🚉🚋⚡
@thebigdoghimself
@thebigdoghimself 4 месяца назад
Hertz is scummy. We rented a Tesla model Y when our tesla was rear-ended while at a stop sign. They gave us an option to get an I pass (Illinois toll device). we, of course, said, " No, we live in state and have multiple I passes." Over the course of 3 weeks, they charged us over $300 for tolls that we used our I pass on. They refunded, but it took a very long process. Thinking back we should have filed a complaint with the BBB. BY THE WAY, that $300 they charged us was to cover about $50 of actual tolls. (About $3 per day).
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 4 месяца назад
The BBB is toothless really. Making your story public is likely a bigger effect. Based on what I have heard over the last few years, I am not renting from Hertz.
@garydmercer
@garydmercer 4 месяца назад
Never rent from Hertz. Had horrible experience dealing with Hertz!
@CrissaKentavr
@CrissaKentavr 4 месяца назад
@@kensmith5694 Reported stories to the BBB are public.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 4 месяца назад
@@garydmercer I have bad stories about Hertz too, but I bought a car from them (cheap) and it is still a good car 8 years later.
@Thisoldhiker
@Thisoldhiker 4 месяца назад
Lucky that Hertz didn't have you arrested. They have done it to other renters for false claims that vehicles weren't returned on time.
@patrick7228
@patrick7228 4 месяца назад
Oh please. Elon without Tesla? His ego couldn't stand it. He is going nowhere voluntarily.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
Right, its not like Elon would have other companies who could take over from Tesla. Not-A-Single-One. He is a poor man without the Money Tesla pays him - oh wait, they did not pay since 2018. Why you ask? Because Geezer Joe did not want this corrupt Delaware judge to gibe Elon a single penny. He should move his company to Hungary instead. There they are at least honestly corrupt.
@sirgardensalot
@sirgardensalot 4 месяца назад
All dealerships that sell electric vehicles need to put fast chargers in
@CHIEF_420
@CHIEF_420 4 месяца назад
🔋🧂
@theairstig9164
@theairstig9164 4 месяца назад
L2 yes. I know chargers are used to perform cell balance maintenance tasks and diagnostics. If DCFC is needed for maintenance work they can’t avoid it but it would also depend on how close a public charger is
@sirgardensalot
@sirgardensalot 4 месяца назад
When I brought my Eton it would have been nice had the dealership showed me how to charge it and I could never quite understand when I went into the navigation to show me where the nearest charger was it would send me to a BMW dealer. 😂 Had they showed me how to disconnect the charger from the car as I kept having to fight with it because it did not want to let go and all I have to do is press the button to the right but I found that out after 4 weeks after searching on RU-vid🙄 I think dealerships having charges could generate some revenue but also help us get more charging stations out there I'm in Seattle the charging network is not good even Tesla I don't think has a enough chargers and they certainly don't have enough people to implement them right now if Audi Porsche GM Kia Nissan Ford Hyundai BMW put four charges in at all their dealerships that would be way more that we would have at Walmarts
@Pikminiman
@Pikminiman 4 месяца назад
Thanks, Nikki~
@ChanningChea
@ChanningChea 4 месяца назад
Elon threatening to take the vaporware division away from Tesla is a funny thought. Lol
@nicoleqte
@nicoleqte 4 месяца назад
Tesla owner here. In order to drain my battery in 70% of the advertised EPA range, I must drive like a maniac, or the weather must be very cold (I don’t have a heat pump, yet). I aged that the EPA ranges are optimistic, but 70% is overly pessimistic. The truth is somewhere in-between.
@Mauipat
@Mauipat 4 месяца назад
I don't get it, You are supposed to be unbiased reporters, but your dislike of like Elon Musk always seems to get in the way. Did You actually even listen to what Elon said,? Suspect not, if you had you might understand why he would wish to maintain more influence over the companies he created. Open AI is a perfect example, a nonprofit company taken over and turned into a for-profit company without the safe guards Elon was hoping for. Yet you try to paint him as vindictive and petty. You act as if your these great crusaders for humanity, while you tear down someone who is actually doing something positive for humanity. What have you done? I am a Tesla share holder and have been since before we voted on his compensation package. I knowingly voted for it and can say Elon delivered on his promise's and it's Time Elon gets what was agreed on. How would you feel if some judge who has no moral right to step in decided you didn't deserve the money you've been paid and you have to pay it back even after you'd already provided all your work to all your patrons. Dosn't sound fair does it. One person complained so the rest of our votes were over ridden , so much for democracy. My first reaction to your click bait title was to unsubscribe, but after some thought I do appreciate much of your work, and not lestening doesn't help me stay Informed. I kow it's hard ,but try to keep your bias's out of your reporting.
@suryadnb
@suryadnb 4 месяца назад
I'd be all for musk taking his AI and robotics elsewhere. Let Tesla focus on doing what they do well: build energy and mobility solutions.
@waynelevett3632
@waynelevett3632 4 месяца назад
Elon made an almost impossible business deal with Tesla about how he would get paid. It was all okd by everyone then. Elon made the almost impossible, possible. Now he wants Tesla to pay the agreed compensation for his amazing work at Tesla. An agreement is a contract and if that contract is broken. Maybe Elon will sue Tesla for not keeping to the contract.
@Milhouse77BS
@Milhouse77BS 4 месяца назад
I didn’t remember seeing the launch event for the equinox seems like rather a stealth launch. Maybe that’s good.
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
We weren’t invited. We can’t do a first drive if we don’t get a chance!
@lyledal
@lyledal 4 месяца назад
I could absolutely rationalize purchasing of an EV station wagon.
@peglor
@peglor 4 месяца назад
Provided it has space for a spare tire it wouldn't be a trade down from what I have. Some people use cars for what they're actually good at, namely getting well out of urban areas. I have no interest in waiting hours for a support van that may not serve where I am at all over 10 minutes to swap a flat tyre/damaged wheel.
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 4 месяца назад
@@peglor I agree. My next car will be an EV and it will somehow have a full sized spare. Even if I have to get creative, I am going to have a real spare.
@peglor
@peglor 4 месяца назад
@@kensmith5694 The only electric car I've seen so far with space for a spare tire is the small wagon MG make (Too small for my needs - I like having a rear seat big enough to carry adults and at least weekly make use of my car's ability to store an entire bicycle, fully assembled in the back with the seats down), but with my low annual mileage it would be extremely bad for the environment for me to change car as it would never save enough emissions to offset the environmental cost of the battery.
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 4 месяца назад
@@peglor I have seen several where a creative person could put a tire in the back but it would eat most of the cargo floor area.
@peglor
@peglor 4 месяца назад
@@kensmith5694 Sticking the tire in the trunk doesn't really keep the car practical unfortunately 😞. If it's not tied down, it could do a heck of a lot of damage to everyone in the car during a crash too.
@walterrwrush
@walterrwrush 4 месяца назад
Big auto will never make money on ev chasing 1/4 to 1/4 profit
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways 4 месяца назад
A very interesting news for those who drive electric. Thank you!!
@scottmcshannon6821
@scottmcshannon6821 4 месяца назад
selling cables for scrap metal? thats just really stupid!! what is there about 25 bucks of copper? i guess that makes it a misdemeanor on you wont go to prison forever, BUT you wont be able to afford going to macdonalds on your way home from your very stupid crime spree.
@shanefiddle
@shanefiddle 4 месяца назад
People steel tin cans from recycling bins too... When poverty makes people desperate we do all sorts of things.
@scottmcshannon6821
@scottmcshannon6821 4 месяца назад
@@shanefiddle but they are just so math challenged, they cant be making any money at all. its just so stupid.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
True, I think that's typical. If you think about moderate crimes, you'd have to do a lot of them to replace a job, it's a weird kind of lazy/evil
@CrissaKentavr
@CrissaKentavr 4 месяца назад
The price of the theft is based upon replacement cost, not how much the fence gave the thief.
@CrissaKentavr
@CrissaKentavr 4 месяца назад
@@shanefiddle Look, if you're done with them, they're just recycling them for you.
@martincday007
@martincday007 4 месяца назад
In the UK claims like that made by Tesla that the Cybertruck can beat a Porsche over a quarter mile even when pulling a Porsche on a trailer would likely fall foul of the Advertising Standards Authority. It seems anything goes in the US and that there is no downside to making false claims. It all seems so unnecessary as were Tesla to just make the point that the Cybertruck was quicker than a Porsche in a straight race, the point would have been made. As it is it just adds to Tesla's reputation for talking BS. Mind you how many people, offered one or the other, would go with the Cybertruck now that would be an interesting study.
@archigoel
@archigoel 4 месяца назад
LOL, it seems how desperate tesla critics are. The basic idea...truck is performing equal to very expensive sports car seems to have been lost.
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
Please keep discussion civil. Tesla hasn't been following its core promise for a long time, and there are some people who aren't enjoying the vehicles it offers
@martincday007
@martincday007 4 месяца назад
@@archigoel Well it is not lost, as I already stated that without the fake stunt, the performance of the CyberTruck would have been made.
@linusa2996
@linusa2996 4 месяца назад
​@archigoel if Elon had made that claim it would have been impressive. It still is. But he had to inflate it with claims of unbreakable windows (it's not), bullet proof body (low velocity pistol calibers only) and quicker to 1/4 mile than a 911 while towing a 911 (its not), then releasing a video to support that claim. Then it turns out that the only truth in the video was, there was a 911 and there was a cybertruck in the video. Btw, the stock Camaro zl1 is quicker and faster to the quarter mile than an empty Cybertruck and costs less.
@alanrickett2537
@alanrickett2537 4 месяца назад
Except it was stated that the race was over 1/8 of a mile on screen showing the video clip.
@Carl_in_AZ
@Carl_in_AZ 4 месяца назад
🔌🔌If you want to see the CAT 793 EV mining truck take a trip down to CAT's off-grid proving grounds in Tucson (Green Valley AZ). I am surprised no independents have reported on this site. A couple of my Electrical consultants from Tucosn working on the designs of the South American mine site had the chance to tour and drive some equipment at the Green Valley site. 🔌🔌
@kevind4850
@kevind4850 4 месяца назад
Trains in the US and Canada are mostly towed by "engines" that run electric motors already. The electricity is provided by ICE diesel generators, however, and this is due to lack of power supply along many routes (particularly in the west). I agree that it would be a great thing to figure out a way to dispense with the diesel component, as well as upgrade at least the passenger parts of the rail network to high-speed electric - North America is way behind on that.
@Jojo-o6o6w
@Jojo-o6o6w 4 месяца назад
"this is due to lack of power supply along many routes"... this is not true at all. They engineered them to use eclectic motors because its the only powertrain that can get thousands of tons moving from a standstill. Imagine if it was diesel only.. how many gears would you need? hundreds lol.
@kevind4850
@kevind4850 4 месяца назад
@@Jojo-o6o6w my point was that the reason they haven't ditched the _diesel_ _generators_ is because of the "lack of power supply along many routes", and not that the electric motors (which they have long used for propulsion) are not perfect for the job.
@Jojo-o6o6w
@Jojo-o6o6w 4 месяца назад
@@kevind4850 sorry
@Bradtheone
@Bradtheone 4 месяца назад
I’m a Tesla shareholder with considerable shares in the company. If the no vote wins against Musk I’ll be withdrawing my shares. I support Musk in running Tesla fully.
@StephenMatrese
@StephenMatrese 4 месяца назад
“Higher than that expected demand”, but Fox//MSNBC/CNN tell me that no one wants EVs
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
The phrase "nobody wants EVs" and variations of it appears so often, it's obviously from the disinformation generator source
@tasmanianbadger
@tasmanianbadger 4 месяца назад
Like the header banner… or whatever its called.
@MePeterNicholls
@MePeterNicholls 4 месяца назад
My 3 year old polestar 2 78kwh dual motor is on roughly 84% of WLPT range at about 250 miles per 100% equivalent (only ever charge to 90%)
@fredchung9300
@fredchung9300 4 месяца назад
That report on Tesla battery degradation was unhelpful. To compare 3 year real world range full of variables and ideal conditions manufacturer stated range is disingenuous at best. It was a Headline grabbing FUD hack piece. If they wanted to be actually helpful they needed to compare apples to apples. Determine the ranges of multiple cars on delivery and then again at 3 years under similar conditions. Who was this lazy thoughtless author?
@kdenyer1
@kdenyer1 4 месяца назад
Ford were doing cost reduction in the 90,s that’s nothing new.😊
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 4 месяца назад
Fixing their high recall rate would do wonders for both costs and sales
@wooddavid8293
@wooddavid8293 4 месяца назад
We received our class action settlement for the Bolt EV software update some months ago. We felt that the $1400 was an reasonable settlement for us re: the reduced range and hassle of a couple of visits to the dealer where we had to wait a few hours for the update to be done. Frankly, it was an out of the blue event when GM notified us of the settlement with directions on how to redeem the settlement.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Sounds reasonable
@thenetworkarchitectchannel
@thenetworkarchitectchannel 4 месяца назад
Yea EVgo for passing 1mil!!! 🎊⚡
@sirgardensalot
@sirgardensalot 4 месяца назад
😲😳 4-day weekend enjoy your time off 🎉 😄
@paulmcgraw9284
@paulmcgraw9284 4 месяца назад
Just watched your update show. Very good!😊
@JasonTaylor-po5xc
@JasonTaylor-po5xc 4 месяца назад
I’m generally supportive of the comp package for Elon. He met all the targets as agreed. I also support moving the company to Texas. Run the company from which ever state makes the most sense. But, I actually think AI / Robotics should be a separate company - developed independently of Tesla and the technology licensed back. Long term, AI will be as different from EVs as SpaceX is today.
@StephaneMichon-ui2ij
@StephaneMichon-ui2ij 4 месяца назад
Wow real news based on facts instead of opinion. Thank you for your professioalism !
@karlInSanDiego
@karlInSanDiego 4 месяца назад
thanks for this show. Hope you had a good 4 day weekend. Hope Tesla shareholders tell Musk he doesn't get his Re Mune Er A Tion package. That company deserves to fix their woes by dumping Elon.
@markotrieste
@markotrieste 4 месяца назад
A clarification from Italy: there is currently a row between the government and Stellantis. Stellantis is shutting down most of the factories in Italy, delocalizing in Serbia, Turkey and even France (this really hurts italian nationalists). Tavares on the other hand is asking for public money to expand electric production lines. Tavares even signed a deal to sell Chinese EVs, cars without a single italian switch, through Stellantis dealerships. Put on top the fact that the extreme-right transportation minister openly hates EVs. Oh, and the ministry of industry has ben renamed "ministero del made in Italy" english in the original, and they've already exchanged some punches on the Alfa Romeo Milano, made in Poland. So you have to read the story of the seized Topolino's in broader light. Italy is losing ground in mass car technology (yeah, Ferrari etc etc) and the politicians don't know what to do.
@eranschau
@eranschau 4 месяца назад
I wish there were a solution to EVSE vandalism short of going the route of Europe and require it people to BYOC, but I honestly don’t know what it is.
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard 4 месяца назад
I really wish that GM would have their base models a RWD! This FWD thing is not ideal.
@bazoo513
@bazoo513 4 месяца назад
3:12 - Aha, so Musk has found an excuse why "AI and robotics" efforts failed to return any meaningful results.
@mp3mike237
@mp3mike237 4 месяца назад
Do you even do any kind of fact/gut checking on what you report? Last year EVs only used 7.596 MWh of energy? That can't be correct. (I used 4.67 MWh all by myself, and I don't drive that much. How much energy did your EVs use last year?)
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
Sometimes we make mistakes. We’re only human. In this case, it was a bit of math failure on our part.
@Jcewazhere
@Jcewazhere 4 месяца назад
You should do a video on gas car recalls. Something to point the haters to when they claim EVs have more recalls or bugs or whatnot. Also more info on the Bolt lawsuit would be much appreciated, thanks.
@LesterSuggs
@LesterSuggs 4 месяца назад
Have a well-deserved holiday weekend. and thank you for the work you and your team do.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Nice!
@tyskigolf
@tyskigolf 4 месяца назад
That tree design for EV charging should be used everywhere. It would at least prevent thieves stealing cables for the copper.
@crowfoot1199
@crowfoot1199 4 месяца назад
Good for you for taking a well deserved long weekend! Appreciate all your hard work - still the best ev news round up out there ❤
@Thisoldhiker
@Thisoldhiker 4 месяца назад
Essentially every object we buy in the US is made in China, why not cars?
@tasmanianbadger
@tasmanianbadger 4 месяца назад
I am not a fanboi, but… can anyone seriously argue that voting against Musk is even vaguely fair? His package was entirely predicated on him achieving insane levels of growth for Tesla… given that he made everyone a vast share value increase, some folk don’t want to pay him?!? Madness.
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
Elon Musk has already made more money from Tesla than most people’s entire family make in multiple lifetimes. The disconnect between firing staff and asking for $55 Billion is ludicrous - Nikki
@tasmanianbadger
@tasmanianbadger 4 месяца назад
@@transportevolved… I agree that his remuneration - and most CEOs compensation these days - is beyond the pale. I think it’s a seperate issue, though. An agreement was made. He delivered the ‘moonshot’. The egregiousness of the amount needs to be dealt with by society through taxation. If Musk had not grown Tesla at such an enormous rate, his remuneration was going to be exponentially less… which is what I think folks anticipated. Retrospectively going back on the agreement… thats deeply problematic. The firing of staff is… kinda normal for big business. The difference is how much attention Musk is getting for it. I agree that large scale layoffs suck… but I am unaware of what the separation package was for those laid off. Normally it is mentioned by the media… but with a Musk associated venture, he could offer ten weeks salary and continuation of healthcare… and the media wouldn’t mention it. By all means, raise taxes to 99% on compensation over $1,000,000 per annum… but don’t start retrospectively go back on agreements after the other party has fulfilled their end of the deal.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 4 месяца назад
@@transportevolved Tesla oughta fire him and let him play with his robots and rockets and let Tesla build the cars people want. Without Musk, sales and stock prices would probably rise.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@transportevolvedYes, Tesla should fire Elon and hire Merry Mary. That way they will be fer sure run into the ground next year and BYD can take over. BYD for world domination! Muahaha Muahaha MUAHAHAHA!!!
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@jamesvandamme7786Good idea. Let’s shut down Tesla and let the US boys buy fords and GM again. They do not deserve more than 10 MPG in their V8 monsters.
@shanefiddle
@shanefiddle 4 месяца назад
Another great show, thanks for all you do at TE! Yay for electric trains, woot woot! They make so much sense. I believe the CA high speed rail project is electric. Great to see so many companies working on electric big rigs and freight trucks. Very interesting survey that tied decrease in EV adoption with high cost, I hope the car makers take note.
@GNiessen
@GNiessen 4 месяца назад
Have a great weekend.
@mikegofton1
@mikegofton1 4 месяца назад
Thanks Nikki.
@stevenschulte1475
@stevenschulte1475 4 месяца назад
Tesla needs to concentrate on affordability. We don't need hypersonic orbital cars. I think Elon has completed his revolutionary role and can now piss off.
@johnstarr5865
@johnstarr5865 4 месяца назад
Luckily it isn't up to you😂
@vprincessfan12
@vprincessfan12 4 месяца назад
Enjoy some well deserved rest!
@wooddavid8293
@wooddavid8293 4 месяца назад
Thanks!
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Nice!
@ferkeap
@ferkeap 4 месяца назад
Might be this time is right to oust Musk. I don't see him staying on for years to come.
@mikewallace8087
@mikewallace8087 4 месяца назад
Oust Musk from what ? The TESLA director chair is occupied by a woman.
@alexwilsonpottery3733
@alexwilsonpottery3733 4 месяца назад
Here in Middle-Girth - Iowa, I’d like to see electric passenger rail ANYWHERE!
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
Your country seems to be at the same tech state like … Kasachstan. We here ein the middle of Europe have electrified our trains since the 1950s. It was part of the Marshal plan from he US. I don‘t know whether we still have some not-electrified. Only larger trainstations with large logistics centers work with battery or Diesel Lokomotives.
@alexwilsonpottery3733
@alexwilsonpottery3733 4 месяца назад
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Yes, being from Scotland I’ve travelled on trains in Britain, the Netherlands, Germany and Spain. The America of only fifty years or so ago had an extensive passenger rail network, diesel naturally - some rural areas and towns had no electricity until the fifties!! Consumerism and false advertising about the freedom afforded by car ownership had a lot to do with the death of rail travel here. Electric cars won’t fix that.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@alexwilsonpottery3733 "Electric cars won’t fix that." That's perfectly ok, then they will revert to horse waggons. No biggie. In 2030 the last fossil car will be produced in Europe. In 2035 the last fossil truck/bus will be produced in Europe. In 2035 the last fossil car will be produced in China. In 2040 the last fossil vehicle will be produced in North America including the US. In 2050 fossil cars will be mostly gone. Such is called disruption. Look it up. It's always a S-Curve. Whether its horse carriages, telephones, VHS recorders or electric cars does not matter.
@nickclark2278
@nickclark2278 4 месяца назад
I don’t think it would be a bad thing for Tesla to spin out ai and robotics and just stick to doing vehicles (and charging) and doing them well
@danielmadar9938
@danielmadar9938 4 месяца назад
Thanks
@ElectricCarAustralia
@ElectricCarAustralia 4 месяца назад
@Roddy451
@Roddy451 4 месяца назад
Algorithm
@carol-fy8xo
@carol-fy8xo 4 месяца назад
Thanks!
@paulmcgraw9284
@paulmcgraw9284 4 месяца назад
Did I hear right? You said “stealership?” Not far from right there!😁🎊
@Russwig
@Russwig 4 месяца назад
Thanks Nikki for the news, Keep Evolving!!!
@mrallelectriccarlunacy
@mrallelectriccarlunacy 4 месяца назад
21:16 sounds consistent with your experience in the TSLA HTZ video
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 4 месяца назад
3:45 Tesla shareholders: "Don't threaten me with a good time!"
@rogerbrand6214
@rogerbrand6214 4 месяца назад
The battery degradation on 3's and Y's is crazy, from Recurrent's article: "...the Model 3 Standard Range battery is guaranteed to stay at 70% original capacity for 100,000 miles or 8 years" Surely Tesla is replacing most of these batteries?
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
70% original capacity isn’t 70% EPA range
@edornelas8275
@edornelas8275 4 месяца назад
T Heir sample is too small. I have had my model 3 for 6 years with no issue & battery capacity higher. I’m going to have it checked. An issue I have with article it does not compare all EV’s to see if any meet what the manufacturer specify. It is evident Nikki doesn’t like Tesla. She always negative toward the brand. Too each their own
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
Reporting the news and actually pointing out the error in the news isn’t being negative….
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@transportevolvedIt all depends on the wording. Yours is clearly PRO Government and CONTRA Elon. It is who you are. I had to learn to read between the lines your report.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
Tesla does not replace batteries because Tesla batteries degrade far below that limit. Meaning. Tesla batteries are far better than the competition or th law demands. Mine lost 5% on the first 120.000km before i sold my first M3 Made in Fremont years ago. The newer batteries MIC - made in China - do not show a single percent of degradation, but they are not that old. The worst Tesla batteries are int the Model S 85. And only that model loses measurably inside those 8 years. And they are still above 80%. Independent how you measure them.
@jeraldgooch6438
@jeraldgooch6438 4 месяца назад
I notice that ads for Chevy Blazer EVs are back and prominent. Last I heard GM had halted sales, but now are back. What did they fix? Also, I note that GM has put forth some attractive incentives. What is the story behind this? (If you have already covered all this and I did not notice, my apologies - just point me to the appropriate show!)
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Presumably they fix the software and are pricing more competitively, it was noted they were overpriced
@chrisb508
@chrisb508 4 месяца назад
I have a 2022 Bolt EV that has only ever had a 220 mile range under the best circumstances. I am very interested in finding out more about that possible compensation.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
That will happen when almost everyone who owns a gas or electric vehicle gets compensated for reality versus EPA
@jdear97
@jdear97 4 месяца назад
He will face massive push back if he tries to pull these out. He is an amazing bully.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 4 месяца назад
He does not deserve to be rewarded for the damage he has done by buying and gutting Twitter, running his uncontrollable mouth and trashing Tesla's reputation.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
Not pulling out anything. Just not doing more. For which he has every right, since he didn't get paid for 6 years. And it's super simple, just give him what he already earned. I don't understand why upholding a contract is controversial.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
@@ahaveland You mean fixing Twitter and growing it into a much more powerful company with huge growth potential? Also Tesla's reputation has been damaged by the woke mob, not Elon. Attacks and hate started long before he bought Twitter. The main offensive started the moment he became the richest person in the world. Elon's more right-leaning communication is the consequence of that, he was pushed out of left-wing circles, so he didn't have much choice but getting associated with the right. And the same happened to a lot of other people too, including me. I was hardcore left, now I'm moderate right, without moving more then an inch in my worldview.
@danheuser5148
@danheuser5148 4 месяца назад
@@andrasbiro3007 For folks like me, I see what he's said and done and I don't agree with some of his views and I think he has said some harmful things. If the "woke mob" has blown his statements/actions out of proportion, then he can try to make his case to get through to people like me, but he's got a deep hole to dig himself out of now and he's probably still doing/saying things that I'd disagree with. I had wondered if he was trying to pander to the right wing in an attempt to get wider acceptance of EVs amongst that part of the population, which if it works, could be a net good to come out of his behaviour (for electrification overall). For now, unless things change, I'm going to be avoiding Tesla products. Hopefully there are enough right wing EV buyers to make up for however many potential buyers he's pushed away.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
@@danheuser5148 1. He's making his case all the time, but the woke media won't show that to you. Hard to be popular when your enemy is controlling all information. Why do you think he bought Twitter? 2. The funny thing is, just recently a research group suggested that Elon should start pandering to conservatives, because they don't buy EVs for political reasons. How can they be so well informed and so ignorant a the same time? 3. There were surveys, and according to them Tesla barely lost any sales due to "Elon's behavior". It's a loud minority that's creating fake drama on social media. 4. Elon haven't changed, the world gone far left since the pandemic. Several people who I respected before started to spew heinous lies about Elon, while furiously ignoring his accomplishments. Even John Oliver has gone to the dark side. Watch his segment on Elon and judge for yourself. It's all negative and mostly not true, and barely a word about about the good things he did. For example he showed the event where Elon announced the Optimus program, and only the part where someone in a robot costume danced, but completely ignored the real robots Tesla made since then.
@thenoiztemple
@thenoiztemple 4 месяца назад
It is pronounced HEW-STON not HOO-ston. 😂
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
U-st'n
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 4 месяца назад
When Tesla is so dependent on Elon Musk, I won't bet on Teslas long term success. Mr. Musk will be 53 soon and he doesn't look as if he lives a particularly healthy lifestyle.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
Looks healthy enough to me. And plenty rich enough to afford any necessary treatment. And reversing aging will be possible soon.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Don't have to go to ageism
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 4 месяца назад
@@rp9674 I'll be 65 in August!
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 4 месяца назад
@@andrasbiro3007 I meant "long term" like Ford for example. Some 50 to 100 years.
@alsavage1
@alsavage1 4 месяца назад
His hair restoration isn't looking so good these days, but who cares?
@paulmcgraw9284
@paulmcgraw9284 4 месяца назад
Funny. I don’t hear about gas pump hoses being cut…just saying….🤔🤔
@thebattery500
@thebattery500 4 месяца назад
No money in a gas pump hose.
@theairstig9164
@theairstig9164 4 месяца назад
Or stealing bricks from free standing homes. Where I live it’s aluminium beer kegs
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
We too. I mean no cut cables. Our people do not need to steal copper to sell it. Besides that they could not sell the copper…
@wegder
@wegder 4 месяца назад
I hope Enron gets his pay package
@gmv0553
@gmv0553 4 месяца назад
I voted no on Elon Musk and his blackmail tactics!
@archigoel
@archigoel 4 месяца назад
As a Musk fan, I agree. He would be better of making AI robot outside of tesla -- whole team will follow him because they will get better equity. Musk can sell of his tesla shares and invest it in other companies. Tesla's mission is already achieved, why should Musk spend so much pain and time on tesla? Better for tesla to be valued as a car company at $100B.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
Why are you sabotaging your own investment? And what blackmail tactic? Not wanting to work his ass off for free? Or expecting to keep the money he already got for the work he had done for Tesla? And it's not even about the money. He just afraid that Tesla can be taken from him, and this case just proved him right. A superintelligent AI, or a robot army would be extremely dangerous in the wrong hands, so he has to be sure he can prevent that.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
!gracias!
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 4 месяца назад
@@andrasbiro3007 The only person sabotaging Tesla is Elon Musk firing the entire charging division as the industry tries to roll out SAE J3400. It would be supremely ironic if Tesla vehicles can't charge at typical NACS chargers; due to a lack of interoperability testing.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
I pity you. You let your personal feelings dominate your personal. I pity you.
@paulmcgraw9284
@paulmcgraw9284 4 месяца назад
As far as EVs go. NEVER count Japanese vehicles out!
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
We'll see
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
Which ones?
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Honda Clarity EV, Mazda MX30, Toyota/Subaru bz4x Solterra, Honda/ GM prolonged, Mits imiev, Lexus UX300e, Nissan Leaf & Ariya
@jamesmccormack3229
@jamesmccormack3229 4 месяца назад
Even though I am from Scotland and the channel is mostly American (understandably) I look forward to TEN every week.
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
Speaking as. Brit stuck in America who would live an alternative, please vote in a way to get us back in Scotland ;)
@jamesmccormack3229
@jamesmccormack3229 4 месяца назад
@@transportevolved 100% ♥️
@CrissaKentavr
@CrissaKentavr 4 месяца назад
Why did you share the false statement that Teslas only get 70% of EPA range? This isn't true. It's based upon not using most of the battery pack. Or that the planning software is usually wrong? That's also false. This is conflating the EPA mile-guessometer vs the nav software which use different range estimates.
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
On average, most people only get 70% of EPA estimates
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
There are people working actively against the greatest sustainable energy company of the world because what they really want is that Exxon, the Saudis and Russians take over the world and stuff us all with their fossil fuel. Most are Privateers, some are so called Social media Journallists.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@transportevolvedOh please people. Just say it out loud „WE HATE ELON MUSK“ „WE HATE ELON’s GUTS“ „WE WANT FORD AND GM TO TAKE OVER TESLA“ „WE HATE J.K.ROWLING“ It frees your heart to just admit the truth.
@transportevolved
@transportevolved 4 месяца назад
Perhaps you’d care to be more explicit?
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@transportevolved Even more explicit and RU-vid blocks me one day. No thank you.
@Jojo-o6o6w
@Jojo-o6o6w 4 месяца назад
Go ELON!
@arthurmarsch6211
@arthurmarsch6211 4 месяца назад
5:46 just FYI Houston usually pronounced like "Hue s ton" ... As always great show!😊
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 4 месяца назад
Thanks!
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Nice!
@canis9178
@canis9178 4 месяца назад
Tesla's intentionally misleading promotion of Cybertruck capabilities is concerning to say the least.
@eamonstack4139
@eamonstack4139 4 месяца назад
Nikki, great show packed with new news. VW stationwagon news encouraging. Thanks so much, Eamon
@Pottery4Life
@Pottery4Life 4 месяца назад
Thanks for another great episode, Nikki and team.😊
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Nice!
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Equinox looks good in blue/white! I'm more excited about new Bolt. I'm rooting for Honda, I had hoped for their doom before.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Or "excited for" as everyone says now
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Fiat topolino, owners will have to go on Teemo and spend almost a dollar for a sticker
@MarkSpohr
@MarkSpohr 4 месяца назад
Very unstable billionaire hubris threatens to take his marbles and go home.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
How would you feel if someone took back your salary for the last 6 years, and hold up your future paychecks? Would you keep working for free?
@MarkSpohr
@MarkSpohr 4 месяца назад
@@andrasbiro3007 This was a ruling by a court of law which said his bonus was illegal.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
We should pass the hat
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
Yes, Let’s fire him and take over Tesla and make real cars with real motors and real stalks and no more fancy Software. Just plain old Fords and Government Motors products please.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@MarkSpohrThat is not correct. The bonus was in the opinion of the judge too much. Elon does not deserve to be rich - in her own words in the judgement. Only poor people deserve to live in her own opinion. Apparently she is anti-establishment communist. Whatever… The judgement itself said that the way the bonus was given was technically not correct and must be resolved as the company sees fit.
@wilber8260
@wilber8260 4 месяца назад
Enol only cares about money and power. So, what he most cares about right now is getting that $55 billion. He and his board buddies have been spending time with institutional investors trying to sell this $55 bill plan. So, Enol loves to retweet anything that suggests Tesla will be hugely successful, if the shareholders would only bow down and worship the Dear Leader. This shareholder is NOT doing that.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
How would you feel if someone took back your salary for the last 6 years, and hold up your future paychecks? Would you keep working for free?
@wilber8260
@wilber8260 4 месяца назад
@@andrasbiro3007 I dont engage with trolls or Russian bots.
@alanrickett2537
@alanrickett2537 4 месяца назад
First Elon is a total idiot if he cares about money as he could be so much richer if he was in it for the money by playing wall streets game, second I find misspelling someone's name both juvenile and low class grown up and try and get some basic manners.
@byronchurch
@byronchurch 4 месяца назад
@@andrasbiro3007 Elon’s not perfect but nether is Wilber !
@CrissaKentavr
@CrissaKentavr 4 месяца назад
I voted against all the board's recommendations this time, too.
@paulmcgraw9284
@paulmcgraw9284 4 месяца назад
Here’s something to ponder…EPA range ratings are based on 100% on down. However, most EVs are supposed to be charged to 80%.The EPA should base their ratings on 80 percent to zero. Therefore their ratings would be lower.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
The rating maximum range, not typical daily range, you can always use 100% on occasions as it suits you, such as the start of a long trip where range counts
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 4 месяца назад
Gas vehicles are rated from a full tank to empty. Not a good idea to run them that way.
@theairstig9164
@theairstig9164 4 месяца назад
The EPA rated range is stupid but it’s the only one that can be reasonably applied to all items for sale. You can always come up with your own. OOS podcast does this regularly. Theirs is relatively repeatable
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
I charge my cars to 90%. I demand that EPA is based on 90%, Winter time. Minus 10 degrees, snow on the ground and 50 km/h frontal wind. And not below 5% to ease my fear.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@jamesvandamme7786True, they would be dead afterwards.
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 4 месяца назад
I really hope Tesla tells Elon to take his robots and go. That should have been a spinoff company anyway.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
Yes, Let Merry Mary take over Tesla run it into the ground X-Ai takes FSD and sells it to BYD which becomes the biggest company of the world. BYD to conquer the Universe!
@LesterSuggs
@LesterSuggs 4 месяца назад
$TSLA is down 58% since its high in Nov. 2021. Elon has abused its shareholders ever since. Shareholders were promised high returns and all they got (and I was one of them) were losses.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
Shareholders got super high returns form 2019 to 2021. Tesla peaked over $1.2T, up from $50B in 2019. That was above what Elon promised, and what most bulls predicted. Then the macro environment changed drastically. It's not just Tesla that suffered, all tech companies did. A few recovered, most didn't. There's no abuse. Elon can't control the share price (or the economy, or geopolitics), and never promised such thing. He did the opposite, he repeatedly said that if you can't handle volatility or don't believe in his vision, you shouldn't be a Tesla shareholder. If you jumped on the hype train at the peak, that's your fault. Also, the next growth wave is coming. Megapack sales skyrocketing, FSD is done, robotaxi is around the corner, Optimus is training for factory work, etc. The car business will recover too, but it barely matters anymore.
@LesterSuggs
@LesterSuggs 4 месяца назад
@@andrasbiro3007 Bulls were predicting $TSLA would hit $3k in value and higher. And yes when Elon began running his mouth and then bought Twitter the stocks equity suffered and has done NOTHING but fall. Now Elon wants his $55B in stock or he'll take his new toys and go home. All the while Elon has sired 11 sons. Give up the worship of Elon. He's no Hegemon. Musk is just another Billionaire jerk with his dick out.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 4 месяца назад
@@andrasbiro3007 Tesla went from tulip bulbs back to a car company.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
TSLA is up 370% since Juni 2019. You have lost matey.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
@@jamesvandamme7786Dutch? Fiat is Dutch…
@brunoheggli2888
@brunoheggli2888 4 месяца назад
Game over for Tesla!
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 месяца назад
More like game over for everyone else.
@remliqa
@remliqa 4 месяца назад
One failure does not equal game over.
@brunoheggli2888
@brunoheggli2888 4 месяца назад
​@@remliqaTesla fails with nearly everything!Just watch the last Q1 numbers and Q2 will be much worse!Tesla is cutting production 20% in China!Its over!
@brunoheggli2888
@brunoheggli2888 4 месяца назад
​@@remliqaStarlink,SpaceX,Tesla,the boring company,its all a house of cards!Elon will trie to go with SpaceX and Starlink public,looking for bagholders so he can avoid to go bankrupt!
@pnolan64
@pnolan64 4 месяца назад
Don't worry about it. Enjoy your long weekend.
@rp9674
@rp9674 4 месяца назад
Fahgeddaboudit
@MartijnterHaar
@MartijnterHaar 4 месяца назад
- So you can deny Musk his ridiculous bonus package *and* have him take the AI and robotics to a separate company with one vote? Seems like a win-win to me. -- EV station wagons seem to be having a moment. BMW also launched the i5 Touring. - Weird synergy between the charging cable theft at US charging stations and the 'most US trains still run on diesel' items. In Europe railways are the better option for copper theft, so (for now) the charging stations remain spared.
@garryellis3085
@garryellis3085 4 месяца назад
Musk is a classic narcissist and has now become Tesla's greatest downside. The sooner he goes the better. Particularly in the medium to long term, Tesla will increasingly prosper without his childish behaviour getting in the way. The way he treats his loyal, experienced employees is nothing short of disgraceful.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 4 месяца назад
True, Tesla has lost all markets, Ford has overtaken Tesla sales in North America and VW has taken over the rest of the world.
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