@@DoubleDoubleWithOnions My partner talked me into selling a house in Horsham England and moving to France (She was French). The day after I informed her I had transferred my half of the sale value to the joint bank account (She had set up taking the papers back to the bank) She asked me to leave. Needless to say, I had not made the transfer and I left. Then she found out I did not have to keep her as we were never married.
Yes, business owners always argue they should make more money and have to charge higher prices because they are assuming the risk, until the risk is realized, then they don't like it.
@@jess_o exactly. It has to stop if we are going to claim we have capitalism. We need billionaires and property owners to become homeless way more often if we claim capitalism.
My wife was a property manager at a fairly large (400 units) property. She was a people person. The place was a mess! She cleaned it up, got rid of all the drug dealers, drunks, and generally rotten people. 6 years later her assistant reported to the landlord that my wife was stealing money from the property. They fired her and about 6 months later discovered that the assistant was the one stealing. They approached my wife and asked if she would come back. Her response was, "You didn't believe me the first time, why do you think I would come back?" The property has gone back to the kind of place you would not willingly live in.
@@DJdoppIer Depends on what the "on the record" reason was or if they didn't articulate a reason she was fired. Also depends on what they were telling prospective employers during a reference check. Most companies won't say anything more than title, dates employed, and final salary.
@@DefinitelyNotRin And renters are easily scared. They don't have the money to pay for attorneys typically. Actual luxury rentals like $5 million dollar homes excluded. "Luxury" apartments, what a joke.
@@cottagefarm9799 In my experience they do, I worked for a call center and my manager pretty much told me to lie to customers and I have worked for multiple ones this seems more like the norm than some outlier. You find the same thing in utility companies where I was pressured into trying to literally screw customers by talking them into plans that would cost them more or were better in the short run but after a grace period the rates jumped. I will never ever work for either again and the company I worked for in Michigan which was a gas company was sued a year after I left for charging higher rates than was stated in their contracts especially for propane.
I rented a house in Portsmouth, Ohio in the late 90s. There were four houses that one guy owned and a couple in one of the houses thought they were property managers. On more than one occasion they tried to tell me that I couldn't do things that the landlord said I could, like work on my car in the driveway behind the house. Another time they tried to increase my rent because I had guests for a week. The final straw was when they tried to collect rent, a week early, and I'd never paid my rent through them. So I called the landlord. Turns out the couple were moving out and were trying to steal my rent and the rent of two other tenants. Needless to say, they were quite unhappy when I foiled their plans! The cops were called, the landlord got his money, and the couple was arrested.
@@BlackJesus8463 Given that there are real cases of random internet scammers collecting deposits and first month's rent on properties that aren't for rent and they aren't even physically near, this isn't so far-fetched. I've found a solid half-dozen on Facebook marketplace in my small-ish city. The poster on Facebook claims to be the owner and their name isn't even CLOSE to the name listed on the county appraisal records. In one instance the actual property owner is someone my dad knows. The name also does not match the realtor on the closed MLS listing I find via reverse image search on Google. They all follow the same pattern: Too-good-to-be-true below market rent; Conveniently absent landlord that is not able to show you the property until you sign the lease; tons of realtor-grade photographs (stolen from the most recent MLS).
Yes, but some will see what they can get away with. What i suspect happened in this case was that someone found a lawyer willing to represent them no-win no-fee, and the landlord instantly caved knowing they would be on the hook for legal fees when they inevitably got slapped down.
In regards to "... your stolen rent" from the letter: It's not the tenants stolen rent. They paid it. The rent was stolen from the landlord. The letter should have rephrased that to reflect reality. It seems to place blame on the tenants as though they did something wrong when all they did was pay yheir rent. The tenants did not steal it and it was not stolen from them directly nor did yhe tenants cause the theft.
That's the whole point of the video and why the company backtracked, they just tried to pull a fast one on the tenants. You seem to think that this company was operating in good faith, which is frankly baffling that you would think that...
I thought maybe he said the first letter was sent by the guy that stole the money, and the owner found out and sent a second letter saying that they don't need to send more.
@@patrickdurham8393 after the landlord had his money stolen, which was no fault of the tenants, the landlord attempted to commit larceny by false pretense against the tenants. The larceny is what he should be penalized for. Fortunately for the landlord the ability to prove there was intent would be difficult, but we all know the landlord knew better.
The sad part is how the people need rely on the local TV stations in order to get adequate representation in the legal system. The courts are so busy with violent criminals and desperately poor people on the verge of homelessness. The system is overburdened and can't function on its own. They are in a triage situation.
@@jonnyd9351 Because someone who is scared of getting thrown out of their home is just going to say no and ignore their landlord saying they didn't pay rent or something!
It is a business, I think you are the one "out of touch". Businesses aren't just one person and a business dying directly leads to more harm than that of one individual. It was right for the company to expect the tenants to pay their rent, they never received it. Using the excuse that the money was stolen ain't gonna fly.
@@ocoolwow Imagine paying a store twice because the cashier stole the money after you purchased something lmao. You gonna do that, boo? You gonna pay the business twice because of their poor hiring decision? Come on, say you will. We believe you.
@@jonnyd9351 It is my impression the landlord notified his tenants that he requires them to pay him the rent that was stolen by his agent. The landlord-tenant relationship is fraught with superior vs subordinate aspects in custom and law, and the effrontery in bringing that to bear to extract money from people who likely cannot afford to buy their own homes is despicable. Rents are currently at levels bordering on exploitation, and I do NOT side with the landlord on this. As for the hypothetical tenant who got mugged on his way to pay the landlord, there is nothing despicable in pleading hardship as to his ability to pay the rent, which he is still obligated to pay.
@@jonnyd9351 Ask nicely? No. Demand? Yes. You are also disingenuously ignoring the power dynamic here: if a landlord says a tenant has not paid, said tenant gets evicted from their home. There is nothing a tenant can hold over a landlord to demand getting out of paying for a month.
@@uzlonewolf No, the landlord can not just say the tenant didn't pay and evict the tenant. Laws obviously prohibit that. If a landlord actually took legal action it would just be dismissed right away. Remember, no legal action was taken at all
My son got a apartment some years back . He moved in with it not being cleaned . A couple years later he moved out . Scrubbed and cleaned the place and the landlord took his security deposit . The landlord basically stole $1500 .
@@spacespector I have received the security deposit back precisely twice. And both times that apartment or house was spotless. Anything less, and the "cleaning fees" add up to the deposit amount pretty quickly. I rapidly came to the conclusion it was cheaper to just leave a mess and kiss that deposit goodbye. But a lot of landlords just assume they keep the deposit, and don't even check the rental property. If you rent, expect to lose the deposit and factor that in when you rent the place.
@@jeromethiel4323nah... If you rent, and the landlord keeps the deposit, he'd better be able to prove it was used for actual damages. I live in a place that's actually really serious about this. If a landlord keeps your deposit and you sue, if the landlord can't prove, with dated receipts and such, that the amount kept was equal to or less than the amount they spent fixing damages you caused, you can be entitled to treble damages. Back when I rented, I got my deposit back in full at one place, and in 2 others, a reasonable amount was withheld to pay for actual minor damage that I caused.
My S/O's psychology office was part of an office condo complex, with most of the owners using a property manager to rent them to businesses. She religiously paid (at what appeared to be a very good price) for over a year, when the actual owner walked in. He was surprised the place was rented; he'd not received a dime. He wanted his rent, and also wanted a much higher rate in the future. She told him no, and we moved her to another suite over the weekend, and the bad manager was arrested. He was so deep in debt that there was no blood in that turnip.
Right outcome, Its an Employee/Agent theft issue. The notice to tenants should have been along the lines of, Do NOT give your rent to this person anymore.
Back when we rented we had a wonderful agent. There were two apartment buildings and her first words were "If you move into that building it's a party building - it's going to be loud at times and unless it's loud enough to hear over here I won't do anything about any noise complaints. This building is the quiet building, if there's any noise here you get one warning and then you're out.". And she followed up on that. She evicted a person that was moving in. He had friends helping and the music was turned way up. They got a warning. About half an hour later she told them to pack up, he was being evicted. But she was as nice and fair as you could ask. You had to be a jerk to get in trouble.
My former landlord tried to evict me because I called the City Building Inspection Department and they came out to inspect the property and sent a letter to the landlord to say that the front and back porches needed repairs at the duplex where I lived. They were retaliating and served me an eviction notice. I subpoenaed the man who did the Inspection and was advised by Legal Aid that the LLC of the landlord wasn't even registered to do business here in Ohio. It turns out that if your LLC isn't registered then you can't sue anyone for anything, but you can be sued by anyone or everyone. They lost the case and I was awarded continued possession of the residence as long as I was current with the rent. That's the only question that the judge asked, "Are you current with your rent payments"? Several weeks later they finally fixed both porches about a full year after the City told the landlord to get them repaired.
"You can delegate authority but never delegate responsibility". Just because you hire people you are still on the hook for anything they do; so hire carefully.
and MBA courses teach how a manager is responsible for the success of the company, but not for the actions required and taken by workers, lower managers, middle manager and upper management. Where would we end up if CEOs where responsible for the actions of an organization?
@@sarowie As we’ve seen with the Savings & Loan fiasco, the tech bubble, the mortgage bond crisis, and with innumerable scandal-plagued individual industries and corporations, no one is actually responsible. Especially when reading about medical companies that knowingly harm people, one almost pines for the days of the Red Brigades, which did hold one or two CEOs ultimately responsible.
@@jonnyd9351 Which comment are you responding to, dear? Your lack of ability to communicate efficiently makes your comment in its current form utterly irrelevant.
Because it might work and it costs almost nothing to try. You send enough people a bill for so ethung they don't owe and eventually some will pay. There should be a penalty for taking it to court in bad faith,
@@willj1598 well there are laws like that where it forces you to pay the opposing sides lawyers and stuff so you cant screw ppl over by just suing them over nonsense and forcing them to lose money on lawyers
@@olorin3815 The cases where you can actually recoup legal fees are very specific and relatively rare. The US doesn't like letting poor people fight corporations.
Important detail. ALWAYS get a receipt. I learned this the hard way LONG ago. I bought a Shogun 10 speed bicycle I saved for for a year (I was 13). The day I picked it up the assistant manager of the store told me the register ran out of receipt tape and to just take the bike as I gave him the $120 in cash. The NEXT day the store owner came by my house (small town) and asked if I was going to pay for my new bike. I said I did yesterday. The store manage smiled at me and said "Do you have a Receipt?" That lesson cost me another $120.
I've owned numerous residential properties. All, except one, I managed myself. The one I did have a property manager with, the management company was eventually bought by Berkshire Hathaway. They were good in their duties at getting the place rented and collecting rents, and paying themselves their fees, not so good with seeing the property was maintained properly. Tenants caused damage and the management company never went after the tenants.
A friend of mine had a small 2 bedroom house that he rented out. He rented to a young foreign family from south America. Three months later he went in to service the HVAC system. To his horror. He found that the tenants had removed the kitchen cabinet doors and were raising chickens and rabbits in the three month old cabinets. It took him six or seven months to evict them and was left with thousands of dollars in damages plus lawyers.
The same thing happened last year in tyler tx, they successfully evicted 20 plus tenants because "they should have known the manager was scamming them"
Without knowing more, that actually may have been the correct decision. For instance, if the manager starts coming around and demanding you pay cash, that's a red flag. Won't give you a receipt for your rent, that's a red flag. Dollars to donuts, without knowing more about this case, it was probably illegals, and they simply didn't know any better. But, they probably should have. If they had no proof of payment, then it doesn't matter if they paid or not, there is no proof. And if there isn't any proof they paid, and the owner is claiming they didn't, the law really doesn't have much choice. Sucks that it happened, and maybe it shouldn't have, but at the end of the day you have to protect yourself. There is a whole world of people out there willing to be morally corrupt enough to steal what they didn't earn. It's up to you not to be a victim. That's the first and best line of defense.
Happened to me. Found out about it when the landlord phoned me and said, do you want to deal direct rather than using the letting agent. Turned out the manager and the secretary had pocketed a bunch of rent payments from various tenants across the books and left the country and their respective partners. Not necessarily in that order
This happened at a very large unnamed apartment complex that an unnamed law office I worked for at the time represented back in the 80s. The apartment manager that had worked for them for years just decided to steal as much as she could as a going away present. She would always gab with the tenants so what she did was she would go, collect the rent and gab with a tenant and not leave a receipt. She stole thousands and quit. They knew that she had stolen the money but feigned ignorance at each and every court case. The Property management company had very friendly judges and just screwed over more than a hundred tenants. I am pretty sure that the attorney on each case was perjuring himself, but had no direct knowledge that was the case. Very soon after I quit, never to work at a law office again.
This happened to me. I lived in an apartment complex that I was late one month on rent and then I went to catch up by the second month and the manager did not give the rent to the rental company on time. They ended up giving us a eviction. I knew that we were not in the wrong. Good thing that was over 10 years ago. My fiance is now a real estate paralegal so we would have definitely went after them. Thank you, Steve.
When you have to pay rent that way, either to a property manager or landlord, get a receipt saying you paid on whatever date. Saves you a lot of hassle.
@@callak_9974 Was pre-approved for a house a few weeks ago. Never. Again. My fiance is also a real estate and probate paralegal. That life has long since passed us.
Had my rent check stolen from the box along with others a bundle of years ago. Was discovered within the week and arrested. They asked us to cancel those checks and to write a new check.
I am sure this isn't the first time this has been done. The only way to get businesses or government to retract is by TV stations or social media shining a light on the problem.
Our property manager stole rent money for 2 months. The landlords, my parents, and I knew we were out 2 months rent. Never ever considered asking the renters to pay up again. We were screwed and accepted it. The renters ran into the manager months later. They called us up and offered to beat the crap out of him. Turned the offer down.😂
it happened to me many years ago. a tuxedo shop employee stole all the money for my tux and best mans along with my other four groomsmen. the company's owner called to say that an employee stole all the money from me and other grooms. he told me that he would comp the suits for all of us and provided a small gifts for them.
No you paid for them. he didnt comp you anything, he just made it sound like he did. He had to give you tuxes cause is biz took the money even if it was stolen by staff.
I love the letter the management company sent to the renters - "YOU are a victim of theft", "the agent stole from YOU", "YOU still need to pay us the outstanding rent", "YOU entrusted the agent with YOUR money & they stole from YOU", "YOU need to file a police report" “was not deposited into our account to become our money.”
I was a manager of an apartment complex once. The owner told me once the money order company many of his tenants used went out of business. He lost tens of thousands of dollars and asked everyone to split the difference with him and pay half their rent. Everyone agreed since they felt he could ask for it all.
If you employ an agent you should remember the agent is an extension of you legally. Once your agent is paid, you’ve been paid. Be careful who your agents are.
USDA guarantees loans in certain rural areas. The income of the purchaser cannot be over "X" amount. The property bought also has to be under "X" amount. So, if someone stole his rent, then he was likely in a bad way with his loan repayment schedule. But that is on him and no one else.
In the past I have lived in two apartment buildings where the managers stole the rent money and vamoosed with it. That was back in the days when you could pay them cash and get a receipt.
LOL! Crooks will always try to get you to pay, even when they KNOW they are in the wrong. Because at least some people will just pay again, because they are either ill informed, or just not paying attention. The same reason hospitals and other health care will bill the patient AND the insurance company. God help you if you pay, because you aren't getting that money back. Workman's comp claims are infamous for this. If you are getting care covered by workman's comp, you (the workman) don't pay ANYTHING. But they will send you bills endlessly, hoping you slip up and pay. Crooks, the lot of them. Don't get me started on the BS billing practices common in health care. There's a reason that every single entity bills you separately, it's so that you never know how much you owe, and they can just keep billing you until you refuse to pay anymore. This is a simple thing that the government could fix, but they will not. Medicine has deep pockets and will buy as many politicians as it takes to keep the status quo.
This seems like it shouldn't even had been a question. what the heck is going on with what is your responsibility and what isn't? The renters did their part, the landlord didn't
My father was military, so we moved around a lot. And instead of selling the old house, he’d turn that into a rental and buy a new home near his new deployment. In the end, I think he had 5-6 houses around the country. Arizona has some weird laws around landlords who live in other states. So for those two houses, he had to hire a local property management company. For a while, they forgot he was a client. So the renters paid the company, and they just… kept it. Their original sales pitch included that the owner would get to keep the deposit, as they would concoct enough “damage” to “repair”. They were all above board when he first contracted them. But I think there was a management change, and they suddenly got shady (and forgot to give dad the rent he was owed. He ended up having to drive there from Washington State, so he could get a new mgmt company.
Sadly that won't happen in MI. Shit, I had video of my property manager waltzing into my home unannounced, going through my stuff. Even a nice shot of them taking my bank envelope out of my drawer. Judge called it "unrelated" to my nonpayment, and the cops refused to investigate farther than taking a report and telling me to get the Hell out of the station.
@@joelstiffler5137 Stealing from a mailbox (or anywhere else in the logistical chain of the postal system), yes. Stealing from a drawer in a private residence, no. It's where you steal it from, not what exactly you steal, that matters for that.
@@joelstiffler5137 A bank envelope isn't mail anyway, it's just an envelope they hand you money in. I'd basically been running the entire day. I always ran my webcam aimed at the front room, just in case, when I left the house. I would have taken the cash with me, but I was headed to a part of town where that was... less than ideal. Also, yeah, it's only federal if they yank it outta your box. Which they could have done with my mail, given they had copies of my mail key.
My mom was screwed by the judge in a similar situation. The agent took cash $2,000 and gave a receipt. Went on vacation without giving the money to the landlord.... judge at eviction hearing called it a "clerical error" and it all had to be repaid. My mom is disabled and the landlord never fired the agent. He just was not allowed to handle the money.
I live in an apartment building that is under HUD. Section 8 housing. The management people who took care of everything was CPC. CPC merged with Sound Mental Health. 7-8 years ago when it was still CPC one of the people who took care of receiving the rent embezzled money. He was fired but I don't think anyone who was over charged was reimbursed. In fact no one was told of the incident unless you had some connections within CPC. I always payed my rent at the end of the year in full. They had no problems with that.
Can't believe this was even discussed. The tenants paid the very person the landlord hired to collect the rent. If that person stole the money then too bad! It's like going to eat at a restaurant, the waiter brings the check, you pay cash and leave. Then on your way out the owner demands you re-pay your check because the waiter stole the money... never put it in the drawer! Why would I care?? Why is it my problem?
Uhm, NO. The Property Owner has to go after the Property Agent they hired said Agent steals from them. Simple and care case of recourse by the Property Owner.
House next door became a rental after the previous owner was foreclosed on in 2010ish. Nice old guy owned it, one of 9 he owned in the city. He always had good tenants (or at least ok tenants) from my perspective until the last batch. When they moved out I saw the owner over there moving several cubic yards of trash out and I wandered over. "So, did you have any trouble with this set of tenants," I asked? "Oh gawd... they just flat stopped paying rent about 3 months ago. And now that I can get in there, I see they've stolen every appliance, knocked the doors off every cabinet, torn the doors off the closets. Holes in half the interior walls. I don't know how many people they had living here, but I once counted at least 8 cars that were theirs and I kept getting HOA violation notices left and right. And they turned the garage into a bedroom, knocking a hole in an exterior wall to put in an air conditioner, and then for some reason they knocked ANOTHER hole between the garage and the house--I have no idea why since there's a door there. Thank goodness I got a sight-unseen as-is cash offer to buy this thing from a corporation for a solid $80K more than it's worth even if it was fixed up. Did you notice them being a problem?" "Sure did... I never had a complaint about any of your previous tenants, but these folks were a PITA." I don't know why anybody wants to be a residential landlord. Well, ok, I have an idea. Guy bought the house after foreclosure for $100K. Sold it 11 years later for $400K. That's why.
I had the same thing happen when I was subletting a room in my apartment. I usually rented to graduate students or postdocs from the nearby university; the only vetting I would do on them was to have them show me the letters about the arrangements they made with the university, and it worked great, all of them very responsible people. But one year I didn't manage to get a university person by the start of the semester and I accepted a random person who answered the ad -- what a piece of work she was! She told me she only needed a short lease because it would only be until she got the paperwork to move to Canada. So when her lease was over she was like, just one more month, I still have a few things to sort out! I later found out that she'd been telling different versions of that story to different people who she needed favors from and I don't think she ever went. Well, she drank heavily every day and made a mess that attracted bugs and and and... The last straw was, her girlfriend came to visit and stayed, and stayed, and stayed. I asked when the visit would be over and she said, my girlfriend's living with me, I have a right to do that! I said no you don't, I subletted this room to one person, OUT! Well, it was iffy if I could formally charge her with breaking the terms of the expired lease (3 months later at that point) but at the same time she had no real recourse to get to stay, either. So she just stayed until the very last day of the grace period and sneaked out in the middle of the night leaving behind a totally trashed room (destroyed furniture, carpets, and ceiling light) that the deposit didn't remotely cover. Ugh. Some people with sob stories are legit, others, well.... I'm not a meanie but darned if I ever rent to someone without documentated references ever again.
I find it interesting though that this property management company has a tendency to hire bad managers seriously. They hired one that stole the rent from the tenants and then hired another one that tried to collect it a second time. Personally I think the owner of the building needs to get a new management company.
Maybe BONDING their agents might be a good thing. Why? If the person cannot be bonded they may not be someone you want to collect large sums of money!!!
Honestly, it shouldn’t even have been a question. More, it shouldn’t have even been a thought. The fact that it was tried tells me the property manager is almost as crooked as the embezzler.
Funny that they suddenly did an about-face when they found out what they were doing was actually illegal, isn't it? So fast in fact that THEY KNEW GODDAMNED WELL that it was and just thought they'd see could get away with it anyway.
Winning first Case!! Congratz... Things like this always reminds me of the hilarious 80s legal movie staring Judd Nelson. "From the Hip" (1987). (Junior lawyer at law firm manipulates to be assigned a nothing case, together with the junior DA prosecuting it, they orchestrates it into front page news. But when he gets assigned a REALLY BIG case as a reward for winning, he may be in over his head.)
The spelling mistakes and lack of professionalism by the management company makes me believe that it was 100% possible that the original property manager cackled while twirled her pencil mustache as she walked out the front door with a giant bag of cash with a dollar symbol on it and the management company held the door open for her. If I was the property owner I'd be appalled and fire the management company --it's no wonder this lady thought she could steal from them. She was pure stupidity too, but still...ugh.
A good friend use to own/run a property management company, and the first couple of times that he hired on-site managers at the properties, I wondered why he spent so much money on having them bonded. Stories like this are a pretty clear explanation of why he did it, and to his benefit, I don't think he ever had any issues with any of his "agents" for all the years that he ran his business. He later remarked that his lawyer told him it was probably one of the cheapest insurance policies that he hopefully never needed to collect on, and he was right.
It's always cheaper to protect yourself or your business upfront than it is to not protect either at all and it comes to bite you in the ass when you should have protected yourself.
@@Cheepchipsable - They can't do THAT! 😮 You mean they actually have to use critical thinking skills?? And pay attention to the content of a video on which they automatically choose to comment? How silly of you to expect such a thing! (MegaSNARK alert!)😂🙄
Question. Here in Mississippi, property managers and real estate agents are in the same boat when it comes to training, certification, licensing, registering with the state, and license renewal. However, there are people managing apartment complexes whom list themselves as property managers IN NAME ONLY. The have NO actual license or anything. What would happen to them if they filled out court forms listing themselves as a property manager WITHOUT any license, or other documentation, saying that they are? Would they get in trouble for perjury or not?
This happened in the building I live in over 10 years ago in Ontario. The building manager skipped out with all the cash money that was collected for rent and left Canada. The next manager told us what happened and was told the owner couldn't do a thing because of the rent receipts and being on the books and had to take the loss.
Thanks for this. I was wondering what happened on that deal. At the time it seemed like the apartment owners would have to back track so it is good to know that they did.
They tried that in Houston at a place where people released from prison stay. The manager collected all of the rent from the guys. Then the guys got a letter saying the place had been sold and that the new manager wanted to collect all the rent that had just been paid the week before. They thought they were each going to have to come up with rent. This is a boarding house with three men to a room. Someone got a lawyer involved and suddenly they got a notice that they would not be responsible for rent that month. They were very relieved because some were looking at trying to move out if they had to come up with more rent, but none of them really had the money to move. Most were elderly men on low incomes.
I responded to another video about kicking tenants out..."Sheriff should arrest that landlord and sell all his stuff. That poor bank needs their money." I'm a landlord and it's hard to kick an owner out as well.
I had that happen to me 30 years ago in the UK, agent taking the rent money, I had proof I paid and none of it went to the landlord. I said to landlord he is your agent; landlord says he’s my agent. I moved out without telling him, he found me a few months later and confronted me saying I owed him money. Well, he did not like my reaction and scurried back to his car and I never heard a thing from him again and he was twice my size.
I had a tenant put a piece of paper on the wall with TAPE up right near the drapery rod. Yes, it was covering a hole, pretty large hole as they’d managed to pull a Molly bolt out! They left a hanger near where they moved the rod, with smaller surface screws. I’m assuming they hung clothes on rod? Yes, most of the time we put screws in wood instead of Molly bolts but these were done professional by a previous tenant. The hole was bigger than a salad plate!
Been there, done that, bought the Tshirt, but mine was government. Child support, paid from my check before I even saw my salary due to wage withholding. Both of us had the records and agreed it was paid to them by my employer but I fought them for the better part of a year before they finally sent me a letter saying "we have decided to give you credit for the money you paid even though we gave it to the wrong person".
Teenage daughter of a local landlord ran off with the rents paid into a drop box recently at an apartment where I worked. What a hornets' nest that made, just barely was able to catch her in the act on video. Her Mom took the hit, the kid got off scot-free.
The company that owns the apartment complex I live in, offered free cable and garbage as an amenity. The cable is a bulk account that they signed a five year contract for. Then they decided that they don't want to pay for it, and you have to agree to pay for cable on top of of the rent to live here
I used to do apartment maintenance and got a call from the owner to let her into a manager's apartment. All the keys had been locked in the unit. The story was that the manager had been mugged on the way to the bank, but most likely absconded with the funds. Broke into a police officers house once. His wife's key were on the kitchen counter. I was once presented with an eviction notice. Took my receipt to the office and found I wrote my address wrong on the money order. I mentioned that the deliverer of the notice was cute, and the new manager told me to leave her daughter alone. It did help with the shock of the eviction notice though.
I can give you one worse. There was this clerk for County courts. All fines have to be paid in cash. The clerk took the cash and gave everyone receipts but never turned the cash in. After a month or so people started getting arrested because they hadn’t paid their fines. They protested, showing their receipts, but they were hauled into court anyways. After a dozen or so of the cases the judges started thinking that maybe something was wrong. They finally got the whole mess squared away, but it caused a lot of grief for a lot of people for a while.
I wonder if this was the one I saw where the property manager was offering discounts on the monthly rent if the tenants paid in cash at the leasing office instead of paying through the online system? There were several tenants who had been served with eviction notices because the property manager was keeping the rent money....
Had a coworker who had a similar but (inverse?) problem. Leased a place and the property owners had a management agency that handled everything. Just before his lease ended they changed companies (because the original one was terrible, scummy practices) and so when he moved out he had to still get his deposit back through the okd company as they were still holding it. When he reached out to them they would claim they already sent the money back to the property owners and the property owners were saying that wasn't true. This dragged on for weeks while he was being patient and polite to them both. Finally he finally sent them both a message saying he's reaching out to a lawyer to find out what he rights and options are to get this resolved, and the old agent had the money in the property holder's account that same day. I was telling him that the property owner should have stepped up and sent him his deposit refund and taken it up with the old management company themselves instead of playing "isn't my fault".
