That was informative and fun... I've always felt tennis etiquettes should be taught in coaching sessions just like you learn forehand and backhand... Great job, tennis spin 👍🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Wow. This was great. As a recreational player my pet peeve is when players enter or exit the courts and leave the gate open. If you are playing on the court with the gate, invariably you will end up retrieving a ball that goes through the gate.
I will hold a court myself for a little. I can hold it with warming up or serving, etc. There are loopholes to etiquette but I'll be darned if I was waiting ten minutes for my guy to show up and just give up courts only to wait even longer when I showed up on time.
I struggle with this one. I'm always timely and my buddy is always 5-10 minutes late. When public courts are hopping, we might be out of luck if we played by his clock. On the one hand, my buddy needs to be responsible, but on the other hand I was there first. What if I just wanted to practice my serve? Am I obligated to give the court up? Maybe the fair compromise is to talk to the people waiting and say,. "My buddy should be here in 5 minutes, if not the court is yours." I'm of the mindset if a court has people on it, I try not to boot them off or wait and instead drive elsewhere.
But, of course, sometimes I go alone to a public court to practice serves, I go with my basket of balls for about 30-40 min. And sometimes when players arrive, they ask me politely "how long will you use the court?", I respond them politely how much time I´m left. I´ve never had a problem with anyone. Sometimes, when I left the court, they´ve asked me to play doubles or my phone for future play.
@@miguelbarahona6636 no, people are late for reasons unexpected sometimes. I'm that guy sometimes too. Traffic or just other delays. It happens and other people waiting on a court can be understanding instead of demanding I leave because I showed up before my guy did. I got here first, not them. They don't just automatically get to take a court I grabbed first because there are two of them. That's insane to me. If they wanna make a big deal about it, they can, but it never happens because almost nobody reasonable has this attitude. I just refuse to believe you should give up a court or have no rights to it unless you and your partner are there. Too much pressure for both people to show up perfectly on time too. It's a dumb custom and I don't believe in it and I think this video is overdoing the etiquette a bit.
@@radreviewz9482 Let's talk about the reverse case. You and your friend arrive to the court, and there is a player waiting for his guy to arrive. He says to you that he won the court and you"ll have to wait. Please your anwer.
@ 16:35 - I always call out the score after every point so all players on court can hear and know where we are in the game. This responsibility should be that of the server or their partner as the score has an impact on how the server delivers the next serve. You'll always get 3 other players who are either deaf or brain dead and dispute the score even you had called the score out after the last point.
What I find interesting is that the higher level you are, the more likely you are to not follow tennis etiquette by grunting loudly like many pros and the huge number of cheat line calls in college tennis
@@Yungdil we are referring to excessive grunting where it messes up your partner where he cannot hear the sound of the ball. We are not talking to normal grunting. A good example could be Maria Sharapova, where you can argue it's a bit artificial. I think that's what it is referred to here.
@@Sokeresa if maria does it on every hit it no longer becomes artificial lol. most of these rules only applies to country club tennis players. all these social rules and nuances makes the sport of tennis seems so fake. takes the passion away from the sport
I did not know about the point confusion situation, to go back to a neutral score that both players remembers and redo...learnt something new now, as i learn something everyday...thanks
One topic that perplexed me as a beginner was spare ball management, especially in doubles. It took me a while to learn that 1) the server should always hold two balls on first serve 2) any dead ball should be cleared off the playing surface before starting the next point (i.e. if your first serve goes into the net and s is slowly rolling back to the baseline, grab the ball before taking your second serve) 3) if you send a ball over the fence, play out the game before fetching the ball (i.e. don't interrupt play to run off court) 4) in doubles, the partner of the server should hold the third/fourth ball (i.e. receivers should pass spare balls to the server's partner)
Great job keeping the videos entertaining! From in the tennis shop equipment reviews to on court etiquette and tennis instruction Really well done! Very creative.
I always call the score in an audible, clear voice before serving every point in matches. Played an area final last week and my opponent, when receiving serve, kept calling the score. I warned him once but he persisted. I called the referee. Unusual case but definitely a no-no, etiquette-wise. The referee hung-around for the remainder. Anyone else experience that kind of thing? In over 40 years of tennis that was a first for me.
Im not sure what you referring exactly, but you mean that the server should announce the score only, and the receiver can't call it? I'd rather be sure of what the score is before every point, than argue later on or replay points, and i don't care who announces it
Agree! The server always states the score. Also, If you cannot hear the server announce the point, ask them to speak up -- do not say it when receiving. no excuse to mumble or skip it plus it eliminates confusion
@@Sokeresa It’s the server’s prerogative to call the score, not the opponent. My opponent on that day was preempting my call of the score every time. Calling the score for me, as the server, is part of my match rhythm, therefore he was upsetting (deliberately?) my rhythm. I always call the score as I approach the baseline to serve and before I even bounce the ball in preparation to serve. He was calling the score before I even came close to the baseline - and that annoyed me.
I always tell my opponent that I’m only calling balls out if they are clearly out. Anything too close to call I play as in. I expect the same on their side. I’d rather keep playing than start getting chippy with someone about crappy calls. I also call out the score before the start of each point, or the server does.
I agree with a lot of what you're saying (always giving the benefit of the doubt to the opponent(s)--if you're only 99% sure it's out, you call it in (i.e., on your court, when "in" disadvantages you)). But I'm not sure I'd start by telling the opponent that that's *your* rule, like you're some special genius who came up with the idea of "benefit of the doubt." That's the rule, period, and you should give your opponent(s) the assumption that they know the rules. Now, if a problem develops during the match, like they're trying to call a let instead of giving you the point, then you give them a bit of education. But not before. Before is douchey, like it sounds like you're expecting them to "just keep playing" rather than call a ball out that's close, but decisively *out*. (That's like how my dad plays, and why I won't play with him any more. He lectures everybody on "his" take on rules & etiquette as though he invented them, when they're just black-letter concepts straight out of the book.)
This needs to be shown to the young kids wannabe kyrigos's of the world... But maybe taken a bit further. Spitting on the court... Outburst heard 10 courts down... Phones constantly going off...playing passed your court time.... And my new favorite one of playing your music on court like it's cardio tennis...
god i hate when people play music like wtf. or kids / teens / even adults just having loud conversation on the court or just messing around. like there's a whole ass park right next to the court use that
@@Siloguy yeah... For me it's always the young kids...really ridiculous. I came out one USTA practice with my 4.5 team and one of the young recently graduate teammates was blasting his Bluetooth speaker to his choice music.. At a pay facility nonetheless.. I kindly asked him if he journeyed to all 15 courts in the facility and confirmed that his choice music selection and volume was to their liking. He responded with our guys were ok with it.. Where I said... "I'm not ok with it.. And I'm the Captain" oddly enough, he's a tennis instructor and they should know better.
7:23 at a club-level, if a ball is very close to the line on my side, I prefer to call it in. At the level I play, people do not manage to play that close to the lines, so it makes sense to give it in whenever that happens - a few times a match.
That's different that what they're talking about at 7:23, though. There's a difference between "if I can't decisively see, 100%, that it's out, it's in" and "if I had a perfect view of it, and it was 100% doubtlessly out, BUT NOT BY MUCH, I'm calling it in." I am always a fair line-caller and give absolutely every benefit of the doubt to the opponent(s), but I wouldn't want to play under some time of unwritten house rule where we expanded the whole court by 1 cm on each side. That's a very different thing (and bad for people trying to learn placement). Clear rules are fair. Don't be afraid of clear rules.
We use “replay point” rule for dubious line calls or other situations like double bounce, in our club. Also I’m not sure that staying with ur leg 🦵 on the ball is polite 😃
If the player(s) who would be advantaged by a call can't make the call with certainty, tough shit, they must give the benefit of the doubt to the other side. Replaying (that's called calling a "let," by the way) just because the (losing) player couldn't decisively call the ball out is TERRIBLE etiquette, and was invented by toxic men who can't handle losing (that's about 50% of casual male tennis-players). It's b/c of that type of man that I quit playing tennis.
@@FirstALittleBackground sometimes your brain 🧠 make a mistake and show u wrong image. Or calls r so close to the line so it’s hard to say it in or out.
The bad calls are just as important as the good ones. If you are a good tennis player, one or two bad calls shouldn't mess things up in the overall outcome of the match.
Wish I saw this video 9 months ago when I started. Just about got into a fight in my beginners course when I ran behind a court to get a ball while the other people were in play. Luckily my coach stuck up for me and calmed me down becuase I was pissed the guy was mad at me. She told me why he was mad and I calmed down.
You’ve got bigger problems if you’re ready to fight just because someone isn’t happy with you or something you’ve done. Take the coaches lesson for everything else in life!
@@jerryyoung6494 you don't know the whole story and I'm not easily made mad as you assumed. The guy came from the other end of the court and gets right into my face yelling at me about the etiquette. My coach told me he is known in the club as a hot head.
@@jerryyoung6494 yeah I was more shocked than anything. I was there to have fun and now a guy is in my face.....it was so weird. I understand why he was mad but he took it too far and that was why I was pissed. But I'm having fun now. About to do my first mixed 7.0 doubles. My coach says I'm a 3.0 now
you should never be behind anyone playing, that is dangerous...you need to wait...the reason why the guy gets angry because this is most thing that happens on public cts and its just etiquette not to walk behind when someone is playing...
Common sense and respect goes a long way. And definitely don't mess with someone else's point. I hate that. And always get that person's ball back to them so it's not an issue. Don't take everything too seriously and have fun. That's why we play. Unless you have money on the line or some sort of skin in the game it's all about fun and enjoying the game.
I once played in Vietnam. The players got the court by riding their motorbikes over the adjacent courts and later took the same route home. Courtside, a table was stacked with food and beer and there was plenty of eating, drinking and loud conversation during the games. About a million breaches of etiquette, but it sure was fun.
Not if it’s a local neighborhood, apartment, school, etc. court. Not sure about the swearing on a comment section for a video on etiquette, but does every court in your country require a governing body?
@@jerryyoung6494 What I do I need a governing body for? Even the public neighbourhood courts near me have a booking system where you go online, click the time slot and boom - you're booked. Takes less than 10 seconds and avoids any hokum over fighting for courts.
The excessive grunting is a big one, gamesmanship! Being excited to win the match is hard to contain, but doing it away from the opponent is perfectly fine
Hi Tennis Spin. It would be interesting to analize some tough calls that occur on clay courts, where you actually have the mark of the ball. 1) Player A sends a high lob to player B. Player B lets the ball bounce (the ball falls near the sideline) and then makes an overhead, and he misses in the net. Then B looks at the ball mark (where the lob landed) on his own court, and says that the ball was out, and marks it. Who wins the point? I think that A. Real court case.
The rule says if you see the ball out you have to stop play! If you don't stop play and try to hit the ball, that automatically means you said the ball was good. You can go back and look at the mark, but it don't change anything, since you played it. Same goes for serves and all other balls, if you want to call it out you have to stop play or clearly yell "out" so the other player knows to stop play. This is also true for let balls. If a ball comes to your court and you don't stop play right away calling "let" to repay the point, you cannot wait to see if you win or lose the point and then call let if it is not in your favor for example.
Where I play at, public courts in norcal, people stop the point if there is a loose ball anywhere near the court. Also when I yell "come on" it is always after a great winner by myself, usually a 90mph forehand. There is always constant chatter at public courts, you learn to block it out and focus. I guess we have less etiquette in the East Bay. Would still like to see TennisSpin guy hit some actual balls, to prove me wrong as I still think he is probably a 4.0 hack.
This is An Awesome vid, thanks. But i have remark! Some pros practice without shirts in front of crowds! It is true that on club grounds you should observe their dress code, but i have been told thay on public courts you can ask your partners if they don't mind you talking your shirt off, and I'd they don't care then it's ok, also if someone else joins in an adjacent court at a later time you should politely ask them too the same, and if anyone minds then you should put a shirt, but if no one minds then on public courts you can have your shirt off. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please. Again, this is for public/park/high school courts, not paid clubs. Also it wasn't addressed the tantrums etiquette! C'mon, that's the one i came for in this vid.
When you're crossing a court that someone's playing on, I feel it's much better to cross at a jog at the net. Going around the back of the court is more than twice the distance.
Great coverage... however, on issues of balls being played with? Is there any? In particular when 3 or 4 pc of balls have been laid out for a game... should players always check on them as being complete esp when transition to the next point or server occurs?
Great video Harry, hey what about serving before your opponent is ready? This gets very blurred particularly in doubles. My idea is if I'm distracted (ball coming on my court say) then I'm entitled to have the point replayed. The best prevention here is to make eye contact to my mind. Am I right on all points, let me know please. Thanks Harry excellent video.
Everything makes sense except how does a disagreement between 30-15 and game get solved by 30-15? I’d say if that’s the case 40-15 would be fair to just get a middle ground.
when i play my mate i call a ball that's clearly in out just to see the look on his face and then have a giggle only do it once a month or something is just to much fun seeing his face, he does it to me calls my serve out before it hits the ground and i chip him then start laughing and cant serve any more LOL tennis is meant to be fun is the goal i think :)
No Angell racquet in Kojak's hand. That Clash is seriously junk in comparison. As I thought, guess there's no sales in using a racquet you don't/can't stock. Nvm....at least your review was solid. Cheers folks
I disagree with some of your rules such as grunting being unsportsmanlike. Nadal has won the yearly sportsmanship award and he grunts VERY loud. This is on purpose too since he doesn’t grunt in practices
I agree with everything in this video except for apologising for winning a let cord. It's part of the game and it happens sometimes. I'm not going to apologise for something I didn't mean to do.
That's what i thought as well until someone called it illegal (not until they lost that point) in a doubles match on me for bouncing the ball on the ground first before hitting racquet out of my hand...I think I checked and what I did was correct as well...so be careful for those haters...
@Amir It is considered very rude to serve underhand in a social tennis match. If you play with your bro/gal and you are sort of close friends however and want to fool around and have fun it's ok, not a big deal. If it's a tournament/league match its perfectly fine, however it's viewed as a bit odd
I don't agree with the second one. Stuff happens in life. If someone is 5 minutes late due to traffic, their partner should be able to hold the court for them (and warm up). The late player will simply cut down on warmup time.
@@JK-vc7ie So if I'm playing a match with someone and they have to use the restroom, and it's just me on court, I have to vacate for a waiting pair because they left the court for a minute or two?
gumbo Nope. Read the original comment. It’s referencing being late to start play. They guy is trying to hold the court but his partner has not arrived yet. They never took possession of the court, so to speak. You can’t take possession of the court until your partner is there. You don’t relinquish possession for a quick bathroom break. Nor do you relinquish possession if both players sit down and drink water between games. I’m talking about public courts with no reservations. First come first serve is the rule. If your are talking private courts with a schedule time slot then that’s a different matter.
On a clearly dubious call, I ask if they are sure twice. If I know they are cheating, I'll cheat call one back. If it continues, I moon ball the rest of the match and avoid them in the future. I do not replay point. They are either sure it's in, or it's out. Unsure means in.
Don't agree with the etiquette on giving up my reserved court... On 1st come public courts this is questionable too, as sometimes during the right season good public courts are highly coveted and securing a court is a lot of the time luck of the draw...
Perhaps the reasonable thing to do is to give the person reserving the court a few minutes. If the partner doesn't show within 5 - 10 mins, then sorry, we are in !
