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Tensor Calculus 14: Gradient explanation + examples 

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First video on the Gradient vs d operator: • Tensor Calculus 13: Gr...
Videos on Tensor Product from my "Tensors for Beginners" series:
Video 11: • Tensors for Beginners ...
Video 12: • Tensors for Beginners ...
Video 13: • Tensors for Beginners ...
Video 14: • Tensors for Beginners ...
Video 15: • Tensors for Beginners ...

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@chymoney1
@chymoney1 6 лет назад
You say things so bluntly. Wish more teachers were like you. Every time I see your videos I end up thinking “wow”
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 6 лет назад
I often think my monotone is a weakness in my presentation. I've never had a very expressive voice.
@chymoney1
@chymoney1 5 лет назад
eigenchris I’ve been looking into the metric tensor for a while and you’re the only person who explains it well enough for a person who has only taken linear algebra to understand. The dot product of the basis vectors is highly understandable but I haven’t heard anyone else say the metric is just the dot product if the basis.
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 5 лет назад
That's a shame that you haven't seen the easy description of the metric tensor. If you want to learn more, you can check out my Tensor Calc #12 video.
@anirbanmukhopadhyay6902
@anirbanmukhopadhyay6902 4 года назад
@@eigenchris I have never heard such a profoundly expressive monotone.
@hanspeterfake3130
@hanspeterfake3130 4 года назад
@@eigenchris Perhaps in “real life” it is, but at least here on youtube, your voice is very soothing and a little bit sexy ;) By the way: I love your videos!! 💙
@user-vm9zt6tm3h
@user-vm9zt6tm3h 6 лет назад
-Houston: Be aware of the "del" and "dee" asteroids. They are coming straight to you. You must find the differences between them and the connection to each other! Roger. -Spacecraft: Houston don't worry. Our pilot not only avoid the compact but he also put them in orbit around the planet of tensors. Roger and out. -Houston: Roger that.That's fantastic! How did he do that? -Spacecraft: He launched metric tensors.Over -Houston: Copy that. Extraordinary pilot. You are very lucky. Roger and out. -Spacecraft: Afermative. PS: Please forgive my humour and my attitude but i enjoy a lot your videos. Your lecture is awesome. I am looking forward to watching your future lecture about covariant derivative.
@robertdixon2555
@robertdixon2555 3 года назад
Life had gotten very busy and troubling for me over the past few years and I stopped studying math because of it. Thank you very much for this series because its concise, informative, and gives great intuition with enough explanation of calculations that I can churn through practice problems I make for myself during work and breaks.
@marioyard
@marioyard Год назад
thanks Mr Chris for your fantastic program on tensors and spinors continue this way Mario(France)
@myselfyos3220
@myselfyos3220 3 года назад
Your " tensor calculus and tensors for beginners" series helped me lot for my masters dissertation coursework.Great work and thank you very much. can you recommend me some good books to try out some problems on tensor calculus and to study more on tensor calculus .Im a phyiscs grad student. Than you once again. :)
@shinzon0
@shinzon0 3 года назад
10:16, the components of g depend on the basis of g... only in the c-system, you have the quarter factors...
@jiaminxu7275
@jiaminxu7275 3 года назад
Hey chris, at 7:50, I think the point in the d coordinate system should be (0.5, 0.5) rather than (2, 2). And the two contour figures at 11:29 also confused me because I think they should not be the same. Could you help me?
@IronLotus15
@IronLotus15 Год назад
The coordinate transformation given by the equations at the top of the screen are not a transformation of basis vectors; rather, they are a transformation of coordinate components. (A hint for this is that the variables do not have the distinctive vector arrow over them) This happens to be contravariant with the basis vector transformation; the basis vectors for d are 1/2 the length of the basis vectors for c. Hope that helps.
@nahblue
@nahblue 8 месяцев назад
@@IronLotus15 I had the same question and your explanation helped me see, I think you are right. I mean, look at the drawn length of the basis vector for a hint, and also follow the video from that point, it makes it more clear. Thanks.
@IronLotus15
@IronLotus15 8 месяцев назад
@@nahblue I'm glad I could help you understand!
@patrikengas6479
@patrikengas6479 2 дня назад
5:12, can we just replace basis c.v. with basis c.v. fields? from earlier video's i think i recall dx(ex) = ε1(ex) = 1, so is that just the case? they are interchangable due to the c.v field dc^i not varying with the points in the given space like εî?
@philamras3732
@philamras3732 Год назад
Hi Chris, I am working through your videos and have found them really helpful. However, at about 2:44 , I believe there is a mistake. I tried to expand E^1 (= [1 0] and E^2 (= [0 1]) as arrays and see if I got the same results. I think lines 2 and 3 need to be swapped around at timestamp 2:44. This is a minor point I know as I understand the bigger point you are making. Let me know if there is a mistake there. Thanks
@LearnPhysics1231
@LearnPhysics1231 2 месяца назад
also, shouldnt it be a single column? if you write it in array form, its a column of columns. it should be column(1 0 0 0)..etc
@philamras3732
@philamras3732 2 месяца назад
@@LearnPhysics1231 been a while since I watched this. If you're in 4 dimensions then that's true.
@ericzeigler8669
@ericzeigler8669 5 лет назад
When you say "everywhere in space" referring to a vector field do you mean everywhere in abstract vector space?
@cartmansuperstar
@cartmansuperstar Год назад
11:57 There are no identical upper and lower indices, which would call for summation, which is done in the next step. Should it maybe be "delta^(i,i)" followed by that expression?
@lucacolla
@lucacolla 3 года назад
Hi there! Please I have a question here: at 5:35, why the partial derivative formula gives the kronecker delta for any coordinate? We won't have crossed-components in case the basis ci are not orthogonal?
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 3 года назад
That formula is the definition of the dc^j. We force there to be no cross terms by definition.
@quantabot1165
@quantabot1165 3 года назад
so i was thinking, the inner product or dot product is used to define norms. maybe those things have some connection to these?
@limitedbeast5884
@limitedbeast5884 Год назад
I think it's d1 not d2 in abciss at 9:33 but it's a very good job
@nellvincervantes6233
@nellvincervantes6233 3 года назад
You can collaborate with Pretty Much Physics to combine Quantum Field Theory and General Relativity.
@zzzoldik8749
@zzzoldik8749 4 года назад
at minute 2:13 you said E1 x E1 = matric form, but the matric form same like e1.E1, you explain it in course tensor for beginner 11. how can be?
@VERONICA-fx5wd
@VERONICA-fx5wd 3 года назад
just put more emphasis on "sort of kind of like ", and I guess it works out.
@zzzoldik8749
@zzzoldik8749 4 года назад
and once again I hold it to ask for long time not just in your course but in another tensor course from many universities, at minute 4:06, you can changes the sequence from Ei(vkek)Ej(wlel) become vkwlEiekEjel. those form actually matric form, but we know when we learn matrics the matric it self can't commutative, so how can you able to changes the sequence, wherever you want?
@Zxymr
@Zxymr 6 лет назад
Hey Chris, thanks for the video series, they've really helped me a lot. I've seen the Christoffel symbol being used in other series and I'd like to clarify about them because they weren't shown in your video. May I know if it's because you were working with f as a scalar field (0th-order), and so the symbol does not appear? My idea is that when a field v is a 1st order tensor or higher then in d(v), these symbols appear for each covariant/contravariant component so I'd just like to check if I have the right understanding. I'm totally fine, and more so appreciative, if you did not touch on this if you deemed it to be more suitable for another video.
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 6 лет назад
I am going to talk all about Christoffel symbols over the next 5-6 videos. The main place they show up is in the covariant derivative. You are correct that we see a set of Christoffel symbols for each covariant/contravariant index. Since scalat fields have are 0-order tensors, they do not show up.
@jdsahr
@jdsahr Год назад
Can you offer a rationale for using the very non-standard, unnormalized angle coordinate d \theta?
@eigenchris
@eigenchris Год назад
The procedures I use in these videos should work for any coordinate system. Regardless of the coordinate system, the basis vectors along the "q" coordinate are always defined as "∂/∂q". We don't do the extra steps of "normalizing" ∂/∂q to have unit length everywhere, as this would require more work. Instead, we just allow ∂/∂q to be whatever length it needs to be. The θ coordinate follows this logic as well. We just let the θ basis vector be ∂/∂θ, and allow it to be whatever length it needs to be. This "non-standard" in a 1st or 2nd year physics class, but completely standard in tensor calculus classes.
@bankaikun94
@bankaikun94 5 лет назад
Quick question. I'm assuming E^j(e_i) is just a special selection of a covector and basis vectors so the result is a Kronecker delta? For instance, if we are dealing with polar coordinates, the dual basis would be different from the dual basis used for cartesian coordinates? However, if we use the dual basis from the cartesian coordinates on the polar coordinates, the Kronecker delta would be lost? Hence in some sense, is it correct to think of these special covectors as "orthogonal" to the basis vectors?
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 5 лет назад
Yes, the definition of the epsilon covectors is derived from the definition of the "e" basis vectors. This means that every choice of "e" basis (cartesian, polar, etc) will get its own set of corresponding epsilon covectors (called the "dual basis"). I cover this in videos 4-6 in this series. When you mention that the vectors are "orthogonal" to the basis vectors... it's kinda hard to really say what that would mean. Normally, covectors are visualized as stacks of hyperplanes. Covector E1 will be in the plane formed by all basis vectors EXCEPT e1 (take all of e2,e3,e4,... depending on the dimension of the space). If the basis vectors are at strange angles, this doesn't give you the traditional "orthogonal" picture you might expect. You might want to look at these two images for clarity: imgur.com/a/6h02lQp
@vassillenchizhov290
@vassillenchizhov290 3 года назад
​@@eigenchris This is called a biorthogonal basis pair in mathematics (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biorthogonal_system), where the first basis is from the primal space (V) and the second from the dual (V*). It is typically introduced along with the definition of Schauder basis. There is a theorem that states that if: V is isomorphic to V**, {e_i} is a basis for V, {\tilde{e}^j} are elements from V*, and {e_i},{\tilde{e}^j} form a biorthogonal system, then {\tilde{e}^j} is a basis for V*. An orthonormal basis in a Hilbert space provides such a dual basis through Riesz's representation theorem.
@michaellewis7861
@michaellewis7861 4 года назад
why are covectors operating on vectors simply directional projections of those vectors in the perpendicular to the level lines?
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 4 года назад
I'm a little unsure how to answer this because your description seems to be the definition of a covector, so I can't really give an answer to "why". If a function that maps vectors to scalars is linear, it will behave as you described.
@JgM-ie5jy
@JgM-ie5jy 5 лет назад
Would you please explain further your comment at about 13:00 where you state that "since del f is a vector, it is repeated everywhere in space" ?
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 5 лет назад
I just meant that del f is a vector field. In this case it's a constant vector field, so that same vector exists at every point in space.
@drlangattx3dotnet
@drlangattx3dotnet 4 года назад
why is it the INVERSE metric tensor that we use? Thanks for your work.
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 4 года назад
You might want to watch the previous video (#13). The 2 formulas that appear at the beginning are derived in that video.
@drlangattx3dotnet
@drlangattx3dotnet 4 года назад
@@eigenchris I did rewatch it and now I remember. It is even written on my notebook. Thanks.
@NeonNotch
@NeonNotch 4 года назад
Forgive a fool, but what are the differences between the kronecker delta with both indices being lowered and the kronecker delta with 1 indice raised and the other lowered? My (most likely incorrect) assumption is that the double lowered is essentially the outer product (?) of 2 vectors and thus you get a matrix? Whereas the 1 low 1 high is similar to a covector / vector combination and thus you get a scalar? I know this is incorrect, so could anyone please enlighten me? Thank you :)
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 4 года назад
The Kronecker delta with 2 lower indices is twice-covariant and made of the tensor product of 2 covectors (eps1 x eps1 + eps2 x eps2). The Kronecker delta with 2 upper indices is twice-cotravariant and made of the tensor product of 2 vectors (e1 x e1 + e2 x e2). The Kronecker delta with mixed indices is 1-covariant, 1-contravariant and made of the tensor product of a vector and a covector.
@NeonNotch
@NeonNotch 4 года назад
@@eigenchris A beautiful explanation, thank you so very much! May I ask one more question; I see in your about section you recommend a few links (thank you for that, though the exterior calc link is dead currently) and you're most likely asked this over and over so I do apologize, but have you found any particular textbook that explains things as elegantly as you do? Your explanations are intuitive, interesting, and easy. I have yet to find a textbook that begins from where an undergradate DiffGeo course leaves off (for my course we talked about 1st and 2nd FF but never covered manifolds, tensors, differentials, etc so i assume it was just in euclidean space.) Thank you again for your help, amazing explanation as always :)
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 4 года назад
I updated my channel description with archived versions of those notes. The main page seems to have gone offline. I can't recommend any particular textbook for Tensors. One of the reasons I made these videos was because I found most of the notes online very difficult to understand. I read some of Gravitation by Misner Thorne and Wheeler to learn relativity but it is not the easiest.
@NeonNotch
@NeonNotch 4 года назад
@@eigenchris Yea, I've stopped at the E&M chapter and took a break to learn the math behind it and why that darn bell bongs so much haha. I appreciate your help very much, thanks again :)
@saturn9199
@saturn9199 6 лет назад
I heard have read somewhere that the del operator is covariant.
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 6 лет назад
Do you have a link to where this is? As I said, there is disagreement as to what these words and operators mean. Sometimes people use the same symbol to tall about different things.
@saturn9199
@saturn9199 6 лет назад
Here is the link: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/126740/gradient-is-covariant-or-contravariant
@saturn9199
@saturn9199 6 лет назад
I think it is a disagreement in symbols too. I h have however been unable ti transform the gradient between basis corrrectly; however i think that is due to my bad algebra, your most likely right.
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 6 лет назад
The answer that I would most agree with is the top-rated one by ZachMcDargh. They agree with the definition of the gradient that I use in this video. Other answers use the term "gradient" to mean what I call the "differential". And yes, the components of the differential are covariant. As I mentioned in the video, there is disagreement about terminology. If you have a specific problem, you can try posting a question here, or on a stack exchange website, and give me the link. I can try to help you out with it.
@saturn9199
@saturn9199 5 лет назад
the components partial f over partial x sub i won't transform correctly, I have to us the Jacobian instead of its inverse, and when i do the inverse metric tensor components ( which I have as dx sub i dot dx sub j) won't transform unless I us two inverse Jacobians, making so that del f needs 2 contravariant and one covariant jacobian transforms to work. I must have forgotten to cancel something or I did something else wrong.
@ilredeldeserto
@ilredeldeserto 4 года назад
why (d/dc^j) = e_j ?
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 4 года назад
I explain this in the tensor calculus 2 video. It's because taking the derivative of a vecotr R in the direction of the c^j coordinate gives us a tangent vector along the c^j coordinate curve, which is the same thing as the basis vector e_j.
@raresneagu6928
@raresneagu6928 6 лет назад
When will the next video be posted?
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 6 лет назад
Probably in about a week or so.
@darkinferno4687
@darkinferno4687 6 лет назад
eigenchris i'm looking forward to it
@alaindevos4027
@alaindevos4027 4 года назад
But what is df in the two coordinate systems ?
@eigenchris
@eigenchris 4 года назад
In the x,y coordinate system, you can expand df = df/dx dx + df/fy dy.
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