I'm so glad I went with steersmarts. I replaced everything, I had the synergy brace at first, but after awhile, it failed and turned out to be garbage. I would recommend all steersmarts in the front. It drives so much nicer. I miss your guys banter, but I understand. It's life.
I agree 100%, if you let someone in need borrow something, you should never have to ask for it back. Borrow something and make it a priority to give it back as soon as you are finished using it.
Good to know. Just installed one that came with my Alpine RT3 kit. I'll keep an eye/ear on it. Thank you. UPDATE: 300 Miles and mine is clunky like a sumbitch. I'll have them replace it and keep it on the shelf as a spare.
My buddy runs Douetch Offroad in Arizona and sold me the new teraflex hd IR track bar that you have and I installed it on my new JL diesel. One day later it was loose and doing the same thing. He called teraflex and they sent a new one. Four weeks later the same thing. They warrantied it AGAIN to their credit. So onto the third one, and this one took 10 weeks to get here. It is now doing the same thing. They’ve now warrantied it 4 times. I’m f**king done. I love this shop (not their fault) and I love my other teraflex products. But I just want my money back and a new brand. I’m so sick on this and glad to see I’m not the only one, but also sorry you had to deal with it. Good luck! What do you now recommend???
I just ordered a yeti to replace the teraflex. Their alpine arms have been great but the trackbar had the same issues you describe. With it on you could feel the play where the end met the collar. I didn't even bother with the warranty I don't want another one.
Think they got sick of everyone complaining about it…. Though it’s performing fine… I don’t see tht much movement as ok… especially how much they charge for tht thing.
I have a synergy front and rear. They’ve been quiet so far but the front rubs my ARB diff cover. It’s kind of self clearanced over time lol. Thinking about replacing it with either a metalcloak or rock jock (since my control arms are all rock jock). Both Currie and metalcloak are 1.25 vs 1.5 for the synergy and many others which allows a bit more clearance. Things are so tight under the Jeep.
Exactly why I do not buy their stuff. Surprised more people don't call them out on some of the problems they created with their products. If more people would let them know the issues maybe they would make better products.
From what I understand, they tell people this is normal now..... But yea, Teraflex is one of them brands,,,, that value their name WAY. more then they should
Bummer, I have all Teraflex and no issues so far (2 years) but I will be keeping an ear and eye out for any developments. I guess if you determine that there is a solid quality bar, please let us know. Thanks for posting!!
The heim joint on the axle side of my track bar wore out and it was a pain to replace. There is no room to get the nut on/off the backside. I wish the aftermarket one would have come with a flagnut instead of a regular nut. The threads were pretty rusted after just a few years and I had to heat it to get it off. I made sure to put a lot of grease on the new one before installing it.
When you do take it off… it’s easy enough to weld a ‘flag’ onto the nut… will definitely help out in the future. I’m not gonna lie… the nicest thing about the JLs… they came pre-rusted 😂 The j10 however….
Started my build with this trackbar and exact same issue. There team was awesome and sent a replacement next day. Swapped out and same issue. Before getting rid of the bar I thought screw it hit it with an impact and see if I can get rid of the play….. well after killing it with the impact no more play. Unfortunately never put it back on to see if it was an official fix but seemed reasonable. I’ve got the MC on there now and it isn’t as tight feeling as the TF was and I always have to check the damn jam nut on it. Sooo I’ve been thinking about giving TF another go. We will see.
That’s awesome that you recommend RPM, they are local to me here in Az. Im about to install apex/RPM steering on my JT later today. Honestly if you haven’t replaced the trackbar hit it with an impact until there is no gap. Im curious if that would fix it. Im still thinking about going back to it just because it is an absolute unit of a trackbar.
I put the Teraflex trackbar on my 2019 JL when they very first came out. It never fit right on the joints. When fully torqued it had too much play in both joints and you could physically twist the trackbar with your hand to get it to clank. Whenever I hit something hard or hit the brakes hard it would clank. Teraflex said they were going to redesign it, but I eventually didn’t want to wait any longer and Northridge 4x4 was nice enough to let me swap it out for a Steer Smart over a year later. The Steer Smart is beefier and has quieted down the front end. That would be my recommendation
Yea, Iv had SS in my JL for going on 2.5 years… it’s been a solid piece… TF is disappointing… Im not eager to try any of their stuff in the future. They are just over priced for what they are
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD their lift kits are good specifically the control arms are great as there is no maintenance and their axels are supposed to be nice, but I haven’t tried those yet.
I recently went with a Core4x4 rear track bar, hella stout and their rear upper adjustable control arms. Went their tier4 on both, Currie Johnny joints at both ends!
@@FlyFish402 the standard rubber bushings will last plenty long, but people don’t realize that even when brand new there will be some movement in them when they cycle cycle the steering side to side when the vehicle, not realizing that there is a ton of force required to turn big tires when you’re stationary and that the rolling resistance is greatly decreased the faster you go. Some will argue with that, but I’ve had a lot of experience with them at this point. That being said, i do believe the polyurethane bushing is worth the slight difference in price between the standard and pro series. The bushing is a harder durometer and will rotate 360 degrees because the poly is pressed into the sleeve and coated in a grease where the rubber is vulcanized onto the outer sleeve of the standard bushing, which is another way that the bushings fail (people torquing them track bar bolts down while the suspension is at full droop - doing this puts the rubber bushing I to a constant state of bind and it then over rotates when you get compression and it tears it apart). Poly for the rear isn’t as important in my opinion because that axle isn’t attached to the steering linkages, but you can get the poly bushings and have them pressed into that housing as well if you really want to go that route.
I know iv loved mine,,, iv suggested it, but end of the day, its Mistys jeep,,, she gets to decide.... she likes running what I don't, for the most part.
I've hard creeping n popping here n there. Pulled the TF Trackbar off a week back and measured 0.030 to 0.035 movement (rotation not taken into measurement) from end to the inner split nut sleeve. (Split nut sleeve itself had no movement to main trackbar). Running OEM now but steering wheel beyond adjustment... Just figuring if I want to try to get this fixed... Or just weld it... Or buy another mtg trackbar.
oooof, well I can recommend what I have in my Jeep. Iv had no problems after swapping the poly joint in. This Teraflex TB should cost HALF what they charge.
Had the same thing happen with my core 4x4 track bar. Still under warranty and they replaced it. If it happens again, ill probably get another with out the johnny joint at the upper end and see if that helps
Steersmarts has been solid for me. Heavy duty and thiccccc. Had a problem with the rubber bushing, but after swapping the poly in,,, it has been perfect
I haven't even begun on suspension stuff. That's maybe do to the fact that haven't decided what type of off roading I'm going to do, but I am putting on some default stuff that's useful in various types of off roading
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD love mine but I'm gonna ad a Synegy sector shaft brace. Only thing I'm worried about is the thickness of the Yeti and will they be compatible.
Since jumping up to 37s - I think all that added weight and pressure - makes the track bars wear prematurely - I am on my 2nd one myself just made it under the wire for warranty with Rubicon Express - they actually redesigned theirs but I am not so optimistic it will last lol sadly :|
Let me know what track bar you think is the best to go with. I need a new one to go with the TMR 2.5 ton tie rod and drag link I will b installing. Thankx Love the channel keep the vids coming
Thanks brother, I can easily say Steersmarts has handled my wheeling very well. The only time its not viable is if you don't have space upfront..... (it rubs into aftermarket diff skids)
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD a lot off the "fourm" guys say the center hollow adjusting point on the streermarts is a weak point and it's better to just have the end adjustment... , also said double pinch bolts is over complicating things.... what is your take ? Thanks
I'm not the smartest guy but it seems to me that track bars don't need these fancy "johnny joint" type ends. I prefer solid mount ends and not a fan of split sleeve adjustable track bars unless its the Yeti.
so what brand did you go with? I had metal cloak less 4k miles on it and now getting dealth wobble. The nut jam comes lose and will not tighten so I get play with it. Decided to tera flex and didn't want anything that a nut jam at the end because of my experience with Metal Cloak. Almost got Snyergy as its set up is almost the same. Let me know what you guys like out there.
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD i got mine from a guy that sold his Jeep got the track bar and draglink for 225 and that was both, everything in good working order but he failes to mention it was the top mount draglink so i have to order the bottom mount because ive only got a 2.5 inch lift on it right now
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD if yall ever make it to north east tn, id love to chat with ya and pick your brain on some ideas for my and my wifes jlus hers is getting there and mine im not happy with what i have, i am when i get it, but i see something i want to replace the stuff i just got for it lol anyways happy trailing
I know you know better, but did you have the right size bolt on the frame side? This happened to me on my RK. The bolt size is larger on the RK, and it was clunky-clunkity-clunking. Mine was different, as my wheel centering would change after trail runs... just a little.
Yea, it was running fine for about 1.25 year... then the clicking started. Teraflex just seems like one of them brands that think they can charge more then its worth.... I wanna say this one was the most expensive TB when we both it
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD no problems at all. I put a metalcloak 3.5 lift on and used the track bar that came with it. I have no use for it, and thought that you could use it as your diagnoses one. You know sense you no longer have on. Fire me an email.
I also had really good luck with Clayton Track bars on my 2019 and 2020 JLUR. for my upcoming Eco-Diesel I am actually thinking about giving the Rusty's Track bars a shot. however if I don't swap to those I will 100% run Clayton again. I do plan to run the Clayton overland+ arms either way again.
I would be very careful with the steinjager track bars - there is little to no engineering $ spent on those and they failed at an embarrassing and dangerously low number of cycles...and the failure mode was snapping in half. just FYI
I ran steinjager.... both front and rear. I agree with Honey Badger.... They are garbage! Bent two front track bars and snapped the rear in half. I wish I could post pictures.
Bro!! Quit wasting your money on what's "IN"!! Buy you a CLAYTON Track Bar and forget about it!!!!!!!!!!! I know a guy if you want a discount. SERIOUSLY, y'all have tried them all, RK, TF, SS. Go with CLAYTON. You will NOT be disappointed.
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD well, yeah...but I've not had ANY issues over 2 yrs. You can't even say that about your SS. Do you, boo. Just reminding you that you have other options. Plus, y'all are all about not having the same stuff on both Jeeps (except for tires).😁
What? An aftermarket company with a very good reputation for quality parts had a design failure? Not like that's something that doesn't happen every single day in the OEM and aftermarket world... This is where it pays to be smarter than a trac bar. While no one wants to pay for defective parts , an actual tech could have fixed that in less time than it took to film this video. For starters, fix the problem as soon as you notice it so the threads arn't destroyed by constantly beating each other to death. Second take a cut off wheel and fix the damn clamp so it can tighten properly. Third, instead of making a stupid video trashing teraflex, call them and explain what's going on, tell them to update their clamp, and send you a new trac bar with the update. When I was younger I used to always wonder why old guys bitched about the younger generation being stupid. Now that I'm old, I get it.
I just installed a Synergy track bar brace on a friends rig and it fixed his wandering and clicking. www.synergymfg.com/synergy-jeep-jl-jt-front-track-bar-and-sector-shaft-brace.html?category_id=4982
