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If you crave even more Terminator, I would highly recommend Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles! It's the live action Terminator TV series that came on Fox in the late 2000s and lt lasted for two seasons! Sadly it didn't last more seasons but fox reputation for cancelling and ending good TV shows too early is infamous! The the show revolves around Sarah and a teenage son John Connor. It is an AMAZING show!! And Highly recommend it! A lot of Terminator fans love that show! And I'm definitely one of them!
May I suggest City of God to you guys?! It`s a Brazilian masterpiece that came out in the early 2000`s and nominated to 4 Oscars. It would blow your minds!
An animated terminator series is to be released this year on netflix apparently. Might be worth reacting to that if y'all ain't sick of the franchise already.
Movie recommendation for you to react to: THE THING (1982), a great classic of the horror and science fiction genre, it has unexpected, striking moments and great practical effects, you'll love it.
The 1982 Thing is one of those really rare great remakes and the music drives the movie really well giving the viewers a whole mystery vibe of confusion mixed with horror. Opening soundtrack music just gives you chills
PREDATOR 1 IS AMAZING Predator 2 Is a bloody good watch as well!... worth the ticket just for super young Bill Paxton 😎👍 and Gary Busey and the fridge scene 😎👍 The others in the middle were a bit off but the pack will enjoy them I'm sure And PREY was actually a good viewing as well So yeah they got a bunch of films to get thru there 👌😊
47:18 Idk how many people caught this but the song playing in the background is "Guitars, Cadillacs" by Dwight Yoakam which is the same song that was playing in the bar when Arnold was looking for clothes in T2.
I really liked this one. Not sure why it catches hate. Salvation and Genysis, yeah junk but here they got away from Skynet and had Legion. Us idiot humans are destined to find a way to destroy ourselves
I appreciate that you guys didn't wait months apart to react to this movie series. I WISH more reaction channels wouldn't spread out film franchise reactions over long periods of time. Due credit to you all for not doing that. You still have the short lived "Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles" TV series to watch. I believe it lasted only one season. It was..interesting.
T:TSCC was an amazing show. I just wish we'd gotten more of it because Lena Headey was the perfect follow up to Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor. And Thomas Dekker was a great older John.
@@Mikeonthemic80 I was there when it first came out, and I *loved* it being a big Terminator fan, and liked Summer Glau and Lena. My only reservation is that the terrible production schedule due to the strike and the ... just the pacing of it will not be very enjoyable for a lot of people, especially casuals. But yeah MikeMic it's a great show, I agree.
@@wren7195 I completely forgot the strike affected this show. Definitely explains why season 1 was only what, 9 episodes? And you’re right, season 2 took on a lot of arcs and the pacing was also everywhere. The resistance fighter breaking in and leaving a list of names to track down, the 3 dots sub plot, and I’m still not clear on If Weaver was good, bad, or just on her own mission like Jesse
@@Mikeonthemic80 Hey mate, yeah thanks for talking with me. It was heavily implied that Weaver was the (spoilers for anybody who wants to watch it someday:) T-1000 John contacted on the Jimmy Carter, and that "she" may've changed her mind or agenda later on. John Henry was very much implied to NOT be Skynet, and for some reason a large faction of machines were either evolving/becoming disillusioned/think humans could make great pets? lol I dunno man. Wish they would've had a comic follow-up or something. Anyway thanks for chatting with me, you take care out there. 'Bots all over the flickin' place man, they're everywhere man
I'm convinced it was James Cameron's idea to unalive John Connor in the prologue entirely to sink the film. He knows perfectly well that's a trope that people despise, and I bet he did that because he's sick of hearing literally decades of pitches for the next Terminator movie. The frustrating thing is they didn't have to do it except they were obsessed with she-booting. They could have made John a bit of a middle aged mess whose life became unfocused after Terminator 2 because his expected future never occurred.... a lot like Edward Furlong. It's meta and I'm not taking a cheap swipe at Furlong, but it's true. It's practically tailor made made and Furlong is still a great actor.
@@DigitalJediMaster It's true, James Cameron has a great record of creating and/or improving female characters without feeling the need to go cheap as she-booting. Sarah and Ellen Ripley are two of the most beloved characters in sci-fi. One could argue that in the original Alien (not written or directed by Cameron) that Ripley was to some degree a male replacement character. And in fact, Dallas was basically the James T Kirk character in that movie based on his tactics and those tactics by poorly. But there were obvious differences between Dallas and Kirk as characters, of course, and more directly it literally wasn't the same character set up to fail.
@@silikon2 The idea that Cameron intentionally sunk a film that has his name attached to it is preposterous on it's face. Sometimes people make decisions about a story that you won't vibe with. It is the nature of storytelling and subjectivity and you don't need to invent your own story to explain the decisions.
@@DigitalJediMaster Well, I guess "convinced" was a bit strong, I should have said "suspect". I definitely don't think it's preposterous though because he criticized a sequel to another of his films for unaliving survivors of his film right at the start of the film. I doubt he cared at all about Dark Fate because the franchise has been a reanimated corpse for decades. Yes this is still wild speculation. But it doesn't arise from me thinking I would have done a different story. I would have just stated I would have done a different story and described it. Why would I bother with that speculation? I (and many others) have criticism for the way legacy Star Wars characters were used but I certainly don't think anyone was trying to tank those movies, I think it's carelessness or incompetence or whatever.
@@silikon2 In fact, Cameron said he was intrigued back into the franchise based on the concept they brought to him. And...like you don't have to like Avatar. But let's not pretend like both movies haven't been super successful. He's not obligated to work on just the franchise you like for any reason You know, Alien 3 made the decision to kill off every last character from the entire franchise. That's not exactly the same thing as killing off John. People are always complaining that these movies never take chances. They always play it safe. The good guy always wins. Then when they break from convention, y'all lose your minds. As for Star Wars, same rules apply. People try to guess what will resonate with audiences. And sometimes they guess incorrectly. It isn't incompetence or bad decision making or anything nefarious. It's the luck of the draw that can only be evaluated in retrospect. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Bulldozer?.. Seems to be a truck with a snowplow, but ok. This film is well made, but with a horrible script. Just imagine what they could have done with this, and to think they braught Hamilton back, for this. Sad.
The first two Terminator movies were making new ground in effect, characters and storytelling. After that the franchise became more and more formulaic and standard action and CGI. This one is just reduced to a collection of tropes of the year 2019. - And not even Linda and Arnold's combined efforts can really lift it above that. But I guess if I didn't knew what a Terminator movie could be, I would have been more accepting and have been pretty well entertained for a few hours....
It's funny. I struggle to watch this movie all the way through but I'm always here for the reactions😅 At least all the time that's passed since the movie has helped me appreciate that there are some who enjoy it in the same way I enjoy Salvation. Dark Fate just wasn't my cup of tea. It really seems this is the end of the road for now but if you want more terminator universe stuff, there is still The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series. It's an interesting exploration of the timeline after T2. Shame it got killed off. Must be a franchise curse! On Terminator canon being flexible by virtue of the time travel mechanic, I see the point. One aspect I will never acknowledge, however, is William Candy! No need to react to it, but look it up for fun! It's a short deleted scene from T3 that explains the origin of the Model 101 sheath
soooo if your confused about legion. if you remember in the last terminator movie. the end credits, skynet went from blue to red. so since skynet was defeated it was inevitable that a A.I system would still be created. thats where legion comes in a more powerful version of skynet, just created by a different person
@@alexanderandrew6535 oh i know, im just saying. skynet never really died. it makes since that a newer version would be created. humanity would just repeat the same cycle
@@alucardbloodream2013In fact, and this is the stated canon, Skynet and Legion are two entirely different systems. Skynet was a global defense system. Legion was designed for cyber warfare. The timeline that creates Skynet never happens, and a completely different AI wages a very different kind of war. The idea they were trying to get across was that Skynet was never the problem, but AI in general. That the development of AI was inevitable, as was it's attempt at human eradication. A little paranoid "sky is falling" for my tastes, but I still love the premise.
I'm not a fan of this movie and of course the main reason why I don't like it is because they killed off John Connor which was a poor and wrong decision to do. I'm not a fan of the first Terminator movie ethier just because the whole Man versus machine and it didn't really have a lot of action in it anyway aka boring.
For the first movie there are several reasons: first the budget then T1 is not really focused on action but more on horror, there was never a "Man vs Machine" because the Terminator was just superior to man and the film conveyed very well the horror and distress that Sarah could feel regarding this whole situation because it is the first time that she encounters a machine (just like the spectators at the time ), the first film is much deeper than a common action movie in its subject matter.
41:48, “He’s a prepper!” Great little touch that Carl had this total repentance in which he learned the value of human life, knows it was good that Skynet was defeated, and he wants to protect the vulnerable and somehow make up for the hurt he inflicted on people before. But certain things are still just part of his nature: He’s a backwoods doomsday prepper, with a massive arsenal in his shed out back, and a human-shaped target range at his trees. (But this time, it’s to protect his family!)
If it's a 😂😂😂😂 you want, then that future flashback with Dora the savior wearing corn rows is pure comedy. A petite girl taking on 3 desperate people with weapons by herself, then convinced them not to shank her right then and there and take Grace's food anyway by giving them a lame pep talk made funnier by her thick accent is one of the most laughably unlikely scenarios I've ever seen... and this is sci-fi for Christ's sake. Lol They killed Connor because Hollyweird thinks being pale and male is stale.
I like how we come in at the end of it. You can fill in that it began with Dani just asking Carl if he really did sell drapes like it said on the van. Then he went on an autistic-style monologue about all the finer points of interior decoration, as she sat there nodding, and Sarah could hardly believe what she was hearing.
The disappointing thing after Terminator rise of the machines, is salvation missed an opportunity to create an epic war movie as the first two films foretold and the next two try to save the franchise by upgrading terminator models.
This one is my favourite a lot of people have a problem with what happens to john in the film but personally I’ve never been a huge fan of the terminator franchise so wasn’t to upset by it even though it is sad, I love the action and story in this film and think creatively and structurally its a very good film. Excited to see you watch Final destination, hope you watch the Babadook eventually, and PLEASE watch THE IRON CLAW!
exactly, your comment proves that this film was not made for fans of the saga and that Cameron just spits on them. In any case, I'm still waiting for the real terminator 6, this horror, just as its name suggests, should be thrown into oblivion 🤣
@@erickleefeld4883 I hate this movie was poorly written. My favorite character moment was, when Sarah told the T-800 "I'm never gonna call you f****ng Carl!"
Terminator is never over. You still have the Sarah Connor Chronicles..🤔 Dark Fate is just a dead end universe.... Where Woke goes to Skynet.. 😤 They used a whole bunch of really good creative existimg story points and ideas... But just HAD to twist the knife and kill john connor out of spite for DEI. That is why people who hate this movie hate It. This is anti border security propaganda from the 'no male heroes in media" crowd.
Will there be Terminator 7? A Script Is Being Written But The Movie Isn't Green-Lit Yet Even though Cameron is seemingly hyped up to bring Terminator back to the big screen, the film is not confirmed. From Cameron's own comments, it's clear that Terminator 7 is far from even getting out of the script phase, and it is unclear if it ever will. 23 Feb 2024
Bad Use of VFX: The VFX in Dark Fate are a mixed bag. Some designs are good but their use and general execution are not. There is an over reliance on CG and green screen fx in this particular movie. VFX should be used sparingly and incorporated with practical effects for best outcome. Sadly in this movie they are not. 😔 The poorly composited green screen work stands out in many of the driving scenes and is particularly egregious during Grace’s arrival when she tackles the police and takes the guy’s clothes. It’s very obvious they are on sound stages for many scenes. The shots of the Rev-9 unrealistically leaping through the air like Spider-Man are extremely cartoonish and stand out like a sore thumb. The Terminator movies already have an outlandish premise, so some suspension of disbelief is required. However, earlier entries did a good job grounding the fantastical elements of the story by presenting them in a visceral and tactile way. The FX/CG in Dark Fate, and Genisys to an extent, feel the most unreal; it’s not grounded at all, it lets audiences know they are in a make-believe fantasy world where anything can happen. They seem to have forgotten how physics work 🤦♂️ and take a number of visually creative liberties, such as with the plane scene, which does not look or feel based in anything close to reality as people and objects fly about in a random, yet controlled, manner at various speeds. Their use of VFX took me out of the movie for much of it rather than help give a sense of immersion.
That was cringy woke movie, the moment she appeared and fight in 2.5x tempo, like some fake cheap short video on youtube. Cmon and that 10:57 same... 13:18 And she don't even act a bit like a Terminator.. more like a new Marvel Hero.
for me personally this was the weakest of all the movies. Did nothing to the story, did not explain the legion thing, was too much centered on the american/mexican problems instead of the terminator/future lore/problems, and the terminator growing a guilt for killing john was weird. (learning and becoming human is ok, also that the skin parts grow older, that was explained in previous movies, but "feeling guilty for johns murder" was weird.).
Bad Cinematography: The overtly digital-looking cinematography is filled with the sort of flat lighting typically seen in a cheap daytime soap opera, not a big budget theatrical feature film. The coverage and shot compositions for anything other than the action scenes are filmed like a soap opera too, almost as if they were an impromptu afterthought. Most scenes have little to no texture, no hard light, no use of shadow, shaping or contouring of light. There is no importance given to creating atmosphere or setting mood with the light, nothing emotive about it at all. There isn’t much that gives the film as a whole, or individual scenes, a sense of character, just…flat. Instead, they have completely deferred these aspects of storytelling to production design. The action scene with them all on the plane followed by the showdown inside the Dam are where they have the most dynamic lighting and grading, yet at the same time it manages to look completely fake. Most of the day exteriors are just short of looking washed out and the night scenes are generally overly dark to the point that is difficult to make out anything. The scene with the three female leads on top of the train is an example of bad dark lighting and grading. And the scene where they collect the EMP tool in the hanger looks especially dull, cheap and flat. All previous entries in the franchise made great use of cinematic lighting. I think the over reliance on CG and green screen in particular has a lot to do with the flat lighting in DF. Genisys, which I don’t like but was also shot digitally, only has maybe one or two flat looking scenes. Overall, Genisys has vastly superior cinematography to DF as they did a much better job of shaping light and shadows while creating atmosphere for that move, and the scenes recreating 1984 were done well. 👍
The big mistake of this movie was to kill John Connor, 2 first movies saving him to be killed foolishly on a beach, that people did not forgive him, and so it was at the box office.
@@MarkPriest-v6u I learned that I was never that attached to John in the first place. It's possible that having so many different actors play him kind of diminished the impact his character had.
@@DigitalJediMaster yes! And since dark fate is a sequel to 1 and 2 i think everyone forgot to ignore the rest of the movies. John wasn't in part 1. And in part 2 he's a kid who's running and screaming. Fast forward to dark fate he's killed in the beginning. Why were people pissed? He did NOTHING in that 1 2 dark fate timeline that we ever saw.
This movie is total garbage. "They're afraid of your womb"?? WTF? There is no way Sarah Connor would team up with the same Terminator that killed her son
I think i said this with your SCREAM reactions. I hate none of these movies. However I do believe the Scream movies have remained more consistent while these Terminator movies have fluctuated MASSIVELY! I have a big heart for this franchise!
Honestly, I want this one to be the final movie in the series. It’s a really solid ending, with Dani vowing to change the future just like Sarah and John did before.
@@ChrissonatorOFL You realize how physically grueling it was for a woman in her early 60’s to come back and train for a movie like this? Of course she’s not doing it again! This movie was also Arnold’s last one, so it’s a great place to end everything.
I personally loved the Carl idea. A machine designed to learn how to be as human as possible given a blank slate and 20 years to develop its intelligence trying to be as "human" as possible. This is offset by Grace, who spurned her humanity to become as close to a machine as possible. It's reminiscent of the works of Issac Asimov and Ray Bradbury.
shocking notion is that j Cameron has give 3 movie studios in '23 his script for terminator 7 - end of war-. They have all said no thanks. So he has gone back to writing a new script. Arnire and Hamilton both said they will not be in any more Terminator movies.
This really should be the last one. It’s a solid finale to the story of Sarah Connor, and her encounters with these machines of doom that all had the same face.
Rewatching this movie reminded me of why I kind of hated Grace. I disliked how she kept disrespecting and talking shit to Sarah. I’m like: “Girl, you better learn your place and learn it well!” She definitely annoyed me a bit with her attitude but I do admit that she’s still a badass when it comes to the action sequences though.
This is the only film in the franchise I haven't seen in it's totality, and I am not planning to either, as from all the clips and whatnot I have seen this looks MAJORLY underwhelming to me, as a lot of people have already mentioned. IMO as an 1980's child and a long-time fan of the first two films (and the TV series, which I'm still sad they cancelled prematurely), they REALLY fucked up the franchise with this film, even more-so than with Terminator 3, plus they went and pissed on all the fans of the first two films, especially T2, by just KILLING John at the beginning of this movie, just to insert random new girl who will save the future, with absolutely NO build up.
I kind of enjoyed this movie the one time I saw it, but I was very annoyed by the new “John Connor.” She was kind of annoying every time the other characters were like, “nope that way needs more planning. We’ll die if we try that.” And she’s always like, “no, we fight now like this. My future is safe.”
Thought that Terminator Dark Woke was a truly regressive film; Killed John because he was a male lead, the T-800 was now a drape selling cuck, and the Juan-thousand was a technical Inferior version of the T-X/T-3000. The dialog is poor. I can't believe that this was made with James Cameron's input. The one thing I cannot forgive about this film, is how atrocious the CGI is...How is T2, a film made nearly 30 years a go, has better/iconic special effects!
Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Rev-9 reunited for the Netflix action comedy series FUBAR, which I highly recommend watching. The actor playing the Rev-9 previously starred in the Ghost Rider series as the new Ghost Rider, Robbie Reyes. Another sci-fi action movie I recommend watching is Universal Soldier
Thanks for doing all of these! So many other reactor channels are total sheep and don't complete a franchise just cause some comments say "it's sucks after xyz"...
One thing i noticed is carl is a combination of miles and salceda, miles because sarah has beef with the character, they have a family and die for the cause. Salceda because he is from Sarah's past and had a stockpile of ammo
Carl also ended up borrowing details from KYLE REESE. In that scene when he told Sarah that she changed the future, “You set me free,” there’s a soft acoustic version of the Terminator theme music playing. It was a callback to when Reese told Sarah that he loved her. Then when the hydroelectric turbine blew up, and Sarah went to go check Carl, she saw him lying on the ground, apparently dead - and actually resembling when she’d found Reese’s body.
This one had some interesting concepts. I especially love the setup and Carl, and of course our girl is back. However, I still prefer T3 as a sequel to T2.
Most people don't like this one because again they killed all the main storyline which is John Connor. only two Terminator movies I don't like and that's the very first Terminator movie and this movie.
Maybe if they made a good movie that actually respects the characters and the fans that spend their money. Instead, we get pandering woke nonsense. And if the fans do like it.. we’re the problem. 🙄
If you want a little more Terminator lore you should react to the show Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles. It aired on Fox for 2 seasons and picks up after Terminator 2 and ignores any sequels
Did you know that Cameron had alternative ending in T2. Two years after they saved world, there was another terminator that came and just shot John Connor on the beach. The end.
I liked this one purely cause when the terminator took control of the drone I thought “logically it would just kamikaze them” and then proceeded to do exactly that - appreciate realistic bad guy plans rather than like the salvation arnie throwing John Connor around
at first i didn't like dark fate, but after watching it again it was okay, far better than some other terminator movies, Terminator 2 still the best one! also i don't know if you guys have watched all aliens, you should watch them but watch them in chronological order with the Prometheus movie etc. just google aliens chronological order and watch all the movies on the list xD. thanks for great reaction videos!
Yeah, this movie killed the franchise as James Cameron actually regrets making this movie happen as he knew that bringing back Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton was a very bad idea. Even Schwarzenegger said in an interview that he's done playing The Terminator, while Hamilton said in a recent interview that a new Terminator movie is likely never going to happen.
Cameron said no such thing, and you guys really need to stop repeating this. He said he thinks people didn't like seeing Arnold and Sarah as old people together again, which is decidedly not what any of you ever complain about. In that exact same quote he said he was reasonably happy with the film.
The weirdos didn't like having female protagonists. Terminator had that from the beginning. There were the odd Juan Connor comments. They would have had an issue with the Hispanic community.
Did other people really not recognize the obvious imagery they went with at 5:12, for when the T-800 is looking down at John’s body to confirm the kill? Look at that again. (And just to rub it in further, Sarah had a line when she was on the migrant train with Dani and Grace, about letting somebody else be Mother Mary for a change.)
My favorite line from this..... "If you want to keep your phone in a bag of potato chips, then keep it in a bag of potato chips." WOW!!! =X-D I'm just say'n
James Cameron was the producer for this one, but was bucking heads with Director Tim Miller on this film. Again there were plans to make another trilogy, but was cancelled again due to the bad opening & ridiculous Tom Cruise level of action. James Cameron vowed to direct the next Terminator film himself to teach these wannabes how it's done. Rewind back to T1 & T2 as cannon... Again... Wow. ._.
Let’s just be clear on the whole multiple timelines thing: James Cameron did the practice here of a franchise creator coming back, and disregarding everything else that was done without them as non-canonical. As far as this movie is concerned, all the others don’t exist, and this is the one true Part 3 to the story of T1 and T2. (Don’t worry, if you liked any of those others, he’s not coming to your house and destroying your copies. For example, I kind of liked the TV series.) That’s just how this kind of franchise maneuver works.
Only watched once before, in theatre! 🎞️ Undecided how I rank this one, but not my favourite.. 💀 We want Arnold-Movie-Marathon! 💪 (Wildlands is my game bro! I have waaay too many hours in Bolivia!) 🕹️
Bad Casting/Performances: Natalia Reyes is woefully miscast as Dani. She is 5ft and resembles a child or a dwarf in many shots. If they make another LOTR movie she’d make a wonderful hobbit. Dani is expected to give a few rousing speeches and provide girlboss leadership but can’t be taken seriously in any scene attempting to depict this. The future scene with her hair in cornrows for example. 😂 In the target practise scene she is holding a gun that is almost as big as her and it looks really silly. I’m a fan of Linda Hamilton, but her performance is lacklustre at best. Her line delivery felt forced and stilted, but when you are given the corniest dialogue imaginable to work with that style of delivery may be unavoidable for even the best of actors. I feel her return as Sarah was a wasted opportunity because they didn’t give her much to work with, nothing of substance anyway. Grace is a bit of a messy character, her attitude is all over the place, at times she comes across like an emotionally immature teen giving hormonally-driven, moody, backchat to her parents. I feel some of these performance missteps can be attributed to the bad script and the directing, or lack of it. 😢
I just didn't like it because as I said it was cool that JC was the leader of the resistance because he had the most experience with terminators. I suppose they could impose that experience on anyone else and say the same, but it seemed most consistent with all else that had been established. Sure we have timelines and multiverses now as a caveat for anything now, but it wasn't as much when Dark Fate came out, and it wasn't at all when T2 came out. I loved the idea of Reese informing Sarah to inform John, who then informs Reese in that closed loop timeline. John isn't some rando prophesied, he is just simply the last one standing with the most knowledge about terminators, it's not fated, it's progressive. By the time Salvation and the war comes around there are many others with ample experience with terminators and killing machines to push back against John's default leadership, as we see. But he'll always hold the prior personal experience that informs his view from a perspective greater than just general pre or post war experiences.
My biggest issue with this movie, is dani actress... her performance was just awful... to a point i didnt care about her. She was eaten between Linda performance and Mackenzie... once in a while i had to remember Natalia was there, and what was Dani importance in the story.
If I wrote this movie a good moment would be when the t800 is about to sacrifice itself it'd hand sarah connor a piece of paper with a sketch of John.then say "for YOU"
May I suggest City of God to you guys?! It`s a Brazilian masterpiece that came out in the early 2000`s and nominated to 4 Oscars. It would blow your minds!
its def all wonky bc T2 theatrical is what we were all used to back then but once the directors cut came out it solidified that T2 was the true ending. also i dont think jimbo had anything to do with this flick.
Dunno who says what, but it's dumbass to watch the extended of T2 which is the landmark of it all. Cameron made the landmark in that classic way for a reason, because that's the right way, not the extended version.
