Terraforming Mars: Inside the Insane (True) Plans to Make Mars Habitable 

forget Mars, Venus is a far better choice.

@@PanzerBuyer You mean on Zeppelins? Maybe. The main take-away is: preserve Earth at all costs.

That's one possibility. But overall, Venus has near Earth gravity and is closer to the Sun for solar and light. I think living on Mars would be a real downer just for how dim it is even at high noon. @@davidmeehan4486

ok let's say mars had magnetic field. and we did terriform the planet. we are designed for a certain amount of gravity. too less will make us fall apart. too much could squash us. we would have to over come gravity as well.

Yeah but they could just send a bunch a magnets from Earth?! I’m no fool, I know a magnet is just as strong on Mars as it is on Earth.

😂

I get my news on business blaze

Or warigraphics

at first I thought this meant he had another channel called Astrographics. He's like a whack a mole for the subscribe button

​@@mildlydazed9608😂

Well I think you had better be on the first mission and ‘science the £h1t out of it!’ 😮

Radiation is your main concern and not the complete and utter lack of any Nitrogen?

Which is why resolving the magnetic field issue is very important. The nukes we could dream up within a decade and get slung at Mars. A giant electromagnetic field generator is another story. Really. Nuclear fusion is key to powering all these dreams! Once we’ve got fusion we will be sorted.

thats because this is all make believe

Plants will only be grown in Biolabs until terraforming is successful enough.

Why not start a company and invest into space race yourself then? :) Make your dreams come true!

Fear not, you are the right generation to ruin the earth and see world war 3

Terraforming Mars is delusional. Why would we need to?…

@@toucheturtle3840 In case earth gets messed up. That can be climate change, nuclear war, or a dinosaur asteroid. Venus used to be like earth but look at it now. Dinosaurs ruled earth for millions of years and died to an asteroid. It could all happen here on earth even if we don’t nuke ourselves.

@@grimmlinn Venus was never habitable.

It will never be possible to see a planet in an other galaxy. Our exoplanets are all within the neighborhood, not farther than 1300 lightyears away from us. Also they get bigger with increasing distance, simply because we cant see smaller ones that far out. This was becoming so annoiing, that eggheads thought supersized jupiters were most common. 🚀🏴‍☠️

Maybe the UAPs are here checking out Earth?

​@@MichaelWinter-ss6lxanyway, even if the aliens in that galaxy somehow had the ability to view planets billions of light years away, they'd obviously be smart enough to release they're looking far far back into the past.

​@MichaelWinter-ss6lx really? Maybe I'm asking a real dumb question, but then how is it possible that we discover other galaxys if we can't see them?

​@@billblaski9523 Galaxies can be seen by virtue of being huge. Our own, middling, Milky Way has a diameter of about 90 000 light YEARS. Earth's diameter is about 0.05 light SECONDS.

My thoughts exactly about that beautiful ending of the video.

Humanity will prevail. There is no question about that. The real dark mystery is just, what kind of humanity it is. As an philosopher student, I would say that not very Star Trek kind of, sadly. Even nowadays in the western parts of the world, cultures of societies have become over-individualistic, very populistic and very human over all (just not in the positive way). And I am saying this as an EU-citizen. These are real problems in EU, which is probably the most advanced in this area of progression.

You ooze elitism.

@@celestialporcupine5922 You ooze judgementalism, evaluating someone based on their vocabulary only. What on Earth did you have to gain with that? Grow the f up.

You can mitigate all the problems by forgetting about terraforming Mars altogether, and concentrating on making Earth more habitable.

@@Nalydyenlo part of the process of ensuring earth remains habitable indefinitely is to take heavy industry off of it. Preserve earth as is, let it heal, and begin the process of exploiting space. We can do multiple things at once

@@roberthesser6402 I guess that makes sense, though it seems like it's going to be a long way off in the future. In the meantime, we should do what we can to preserve and maintain a healthy planet here, and reverse what damage we've already done.

All smart sentiments expressed here!

​@@roberthesser6402 Most of the history of earth has been inhospitable to human life. Your theory is based upon the premise that today is the "normal" state of the world, and does not constantly change... neither of which is true.

Other than the gerontological treatments and space elevator, neither of which would be necessary to colonize Mars, everything KSR wrote about back in the mid 90s was achievable with contemporary technology. Need to liberate a lot of CO2? Melt the southern ice cap. Need O2 in the atmosphere? Vaporize the iron oxides in the rock and regolith with the soletta to release the oxygen locked away in it. The atmosphere will have to be thickened by vaporizing water ice and CO2 ice before making it breathable is possible, but plants will grow like crazy.

Excellent series

​@@CortexNewsServiceinterestingly, the first book in the trilogy takes place around 2050 or so. Right in line with the time frame proposed here.

I remember attending writing seminars at which the presenters picked apart the abysmal "science" in that series.

I gotta read this

There's also thousands of things that people thought were inevitable that turned out to be impossible.

And none of those things were on such a gigantic scale as altering a planet. We're yet to build a single megastructure in space, we're not likely to terraform a planet anytime soon.

@@ajstevens1652Hundreds of years ago, you wouldn't believe me if I came from today and told you we would be traveling the solar system and creating property on other planets

I have thought the same thing...not sure it's possible

ZeFrank needs to do it in the creepy Dave voice though .

Joe biden is working on it now...

@@YourDadsBoyfriend so you're the guy who can't help himself but to inject politics into everything. My whole town burned down 3 weeks ago, and I still feel sorry for you.

At this point Simon is the narrator for most of my inner monologue😅

Is there any way to get rid of or use the leftover chlorine? Maybe combine it with sodium to make salt? I'm not sure of the balance of elements present on mars.

@@Alexadria205KCl is valuable. Molten salt electrolysis produces Chlorine which could be stored and used for chemical sinthesis. Bul KCl could be directly used as a plant nutrient. It remains to be seen what else is available in the mars composition that can be taken advantage of.

. @Alexadria205 Chlorine is an important chemical it can be stored and used to make chemically resistant plastics like PVC. Unfortunately, erdo not know much about the chemical composition of Mars minerals and sediments. There may be lots of water soluble salts that could be extracted and used. So, the chemistry in Mars is yet to be designed deppending on what is there, and hopefully it will be done in a way that does not screw-up the planet from the begining. It is a nice challenge

Danny is the overlord...

Simon is one of several Raelian clones.

Just the opposite the perchlorates make it impossible for life on Mars. Toxic to both plants & humans. We'll never colonize mars, or even any manned missions: 1. Anyone travel to mars would get a massive dose of radiation on the trip. 2. World running out of Oil & global debt levels at 320% (nearly unserviceable).

Another probably good idea: use Venus to terraform Mars. It's known that solar shades cooling Venus would freeze it's mainly CO2 atmosphere in just 200 years. After the CO2 is frozen solid on the ground, mass drivers (rail gunns) could shoot huge canisters of the solid CO2 into space, to be sent to Mars. Offgassing CO2 in the canisters could help rocket the canisters to Mars. When a canister arrives at Mars, the internal pressure would blast the CO2 out one end of the canister, and into Mars, with the canister going the other direction to avoid crashing into Mars. The canister would be returned to Venus. The fast-moving CO2 raining down would warm up Mars, and help melt any solid CO2 remaining on Mars. Then plants could use the CO2 to make oxygen. Here's a video about terraforming Venus. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G-WO-z-QuWI.html

Definitely. I think it would be great idea to launch one small version of it and see what kind of effect it has. Of course the effect will be negligible but the idea would need to be tested. For instance a launch for 2029 , get some conclusions by 2031, at least we would know if it is worth pursuing further

One could argue we're well on our way to terraforming earth. Just not into anything suitable for humans 🤣

Simon, the man might have a point

Simon, these fellows have a strong point

Space and animal themed channels feel like a must!

It's not enough.

Free Danny!

Yeah, something the Musk cannot comprehend.

Wtf are you bringing up star trek for. Also that rambling response had nothing of value to say

@@brandonspencer7093 They created/terraformed a planet in star trek genesis, and then it destructed itself in search for Spock. And why, because you can't predict everything when you do something that extreme! I would call that observation valuable.

It's a plot point in Star Trek 3 that the Genesis device, was using unstable matter and it was accidentally formed from a spaceship and a nebula, rather than a dead world ...a #@£&w up!!! Your comment is irrelevant.

⁠@@julianaylor4351irrelevant, née futile, I’d say. Resist.

the radiation from the sun would still pose a huge issue.

@@mariuspuiu9555 Make the domes out of clear ice one meter thick, enclosed in transparent polymer casings. The ice blocks the radiation from overhead; the walls of the crater block anything from coming in at the sides, and the bulk of the planet blocks it from coming from below. Go one step further, and build the colonies in canyons, and it gets even easier. But caves are the first, best choice -- at least at the start.

@@thomashiggins9320 the logistics of that already makes my head hurt :)

I love that Cowboy Bebop has all that crazy sci-fi technology but their small arms are all from 20th century

Mars gets 44% of the sunlight that Earth does. Stick some ice in the way and you might as well live in caves.@@thomashiggins9320

Not really. He lacks the charm and calm of David. David can talk about anything and you would feel tranquil and enchanted. Simon is not bad, he is good, don't get me wrong - but he is a completely different sort of presenter. It's like a football player - you can have two on the same team, playing the same sport, but playing a very different position on the field.

Whatever cranks your shaft ...

I had to laugh. Simon couldn’t hold David Attenborough’s cue cards. At 66, I have been watching documentaries with their sonorously-toned narrators for a half century. There was Nat Geo specials Joseph Campanella and Richard Kiley; Nature’s George Page; Morgan Freeman everywhere; Secrets of the Dead’s Liev Schreiber; Nova’s Jay O. Sanders; Frontline’s Will Lyman…the list goes on. Simon isn’t even a middling presenter. He talks too fast, with poor enunciation and his British accent (I usually like British accents) is heavy, annoying, and pretentious.

@@Nicksonian plus the volume, mic type, editing plays a part in why Simon sounds this way. He is reading from a script to, which can factor the writer's prose & more. Find Simon talking off script and it may give an idea if he could D. Attenborough himself. =)

@@carnifexor3010 Are you serious? No. Those excuses don't hold water. Simon will never get beyond RU-vid because he just isn’t that good

LOL !

I'm grateful that Elon is alive way too early for him to have any significant impact on Mars. There is the unfortunate possibility a descendent of his could end up nuking the planet though.

The magnetic satellite would act as a solar sail and be pushed out of alignment immediately. The forces acting on it would be enormous. The concept is braindead at best but keeps being parroted endlessly for content and clicks.

You have addressed the elephant in the room that everyone else does not understand. Without increasing the gravity of Mars all of the other ideas are only temporary measures. Your concept of of using asteroids is the only approach that is workable.However, keep in mind that by increasing Mars mass you will disrupt the entire solar system. The balance that took millions of years will be corrupted. Planets and moons will be flung about trying to recreate balance. Earth could be flung into the sun or shot out of the system. Best to leave well enough alone. Concentrate on breaking the light barrier and find a new earth; also stabilize the social system on earth.

Thats our human nature: waste all the space resources at once, make the nearest planet untouchable essentially forever and continue to replicate. 🚀🏴‍☠️

@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx just like agent Smith from the matrix = Virus

Thanks!

Yes, but intellectuals can imagine any number of ways to piss away the modest wealth that the workers of the world are able to produce. The comments here provide many examples of that.

This. My kid said, “Look! There are some stars by the moon.” When it was a satellite and a plane 😢

Basically pull an Expanse season 5, throw comets/asteroids at it aimed precisely enough to hit the polar ice caps which would release enough pressure and heat to start melting them and getting liquid water over a huge area, even if its just a huge lake that's a massive start, plus we could feasibly do that since we've landed a probe on a comet, would just need basically a drone swarm of em all with huge amounts of rocket engines essentially to change the trajectory to where it'll collide with Mars' polar ice caps

@@thatlonewolfguy2878 It's a great idea - but for the near and mid term (until we have dramatically improved propulsion capability), we'll have to carefully select the targets with an eye towards minimal Δ-v change required to hit Mars. The Expanse has the advantage of magic Handwavium(tm) propulsion tech that allows them to brute force stuff compared to anything we think is feasible within the next several decades. If you don't have the Script Gods invoking the Rule of Cool, you want to select bodies that you can move into the appropriate orbits with thrusts of miniscule fractions of a G. (It can take a *surprising* amount of energy to move an orbit to hit a specific spot - for example, it takes 40% of the Δ-v to exit the Solar System from Earth orbit than it would to send that same spacecraft to hit the Sun - because you have to *cancel* 100% of the Earth orbital potential energy to "fall into the Sun", whereas simply by being in Earth orbit you already have more than half the energy needed for Solar escape velocity.)

A colony-size magnetic field shield generator seems more practical and possible than a planetary-size magnetic shield.

He still would need a scar over the eye.

He has mentioned he wants a cat but it needs to be hypoallergenic for his wife. So less James Bond and more Austin Powers.

Well, no. Walking around on Mars in caves and under domes doesn't require any such thing. It's a great idea, down the line, but we can get started without a huge magnetic field, up front.

COMMON SENSE SKEPTIC three years ago. Constantly to make Musk look the fool he is. But CSS is for some reason not beloved by yt. Candy science is all this crap is by an out of work English actor and a ChatGPT script.

I agree with you 100%. Apparently, so does Neil DeGrasse Tyson... Earth, even its current damaged state, is already almost suitable for human habitation if we just clean it up...

Compared to the amount of money being spent on figuring out how to solve Earth's problems, the resources devoted to Mars barely even count as a rounding error, at four or five decimal places.

I think you’ll find far more research is going into solving problems here

You can't stop a cataclysm lol. You can't stop pole shigtings.

It won’t be ready for centuries.

@@ebonaparte3853 Yeah. . . maybe something that we don't know that we don't know becomes known so that there is some extreme change in technology that makes the answer on how to terraform mars before human extinction possible. But we don't know what is unknown right now so that is just mindless faith in luck hoping that the solution exists. Maybe we could survive on pre-terraformed mars in boubles long enough for it to become terraformed? I'm no scientist but I doubt we have the resources and the people in the boubles would become inbred idiots because there is no way companies would spend money on putting enough people up there. Unless some safe DnA randomizer exists eventually so there would be enough genetic diversity and we don't end up like the modern cheetah. But I know nothing about this space stuff, I hope that people who research this know where to look for the answers that will prevent humanity from going extinct. We are lucky enough to not be there yet but it personally effects everyone right now as our decendants would live in much harsher conditions then us so human extinction would kinda suck and must be prevented. My fear with capitalism is that they company that saves us will only do so to inslave us, It may be the "lesser evil" to a lot of people now but when the world is ending and we have no choice but to follow some compamy then it'd suddenly become completely horrible and basically become a form of facism. . . and it is already speeding up the end of the world. It is so hard for me to not be a doomer about this when I can not think of a realistic non-dystopian solution, thankfully there are many many people much much better at thinking then me.

I trust you have moved to live on the Atacama desert with no technology to support you so that you wont be contaminating the earth? Better just to open a vein so that you aren't a predator on "mother earth." Yet you seem to desire to take stupefying technology to Mars and do FAR more gross manipulations there than have ever been done on earth.

They do that in asteroids and small moons on Star Trek.

Cause it's already habitable?!?! Maybe use some common sense blud........

Cause it likely involves shit like crashing comets into its surface, then laying down algae for a few centuries once the sky clears. There are technologies that will transfer though such as however we reestablish the magnetosphere. Will be unbelievable useful her on earth to. The point of terraforming Mars is that if something terrible happens here there are still people left to terraform earth.

As already stated, earth is already habitable. What you mean to say is we can terraform mars why aren't we saving earth from pollution.

@@Soren27Its not as habitable as it used to be, because of pollution. Terraforming earth would involve reversing or atleast slowing down climate change

But still they come!

@@markstott6689 "G'day, So sung the song, And the next line was, Appropriately, "Woooo-ooo- ooo-woooooo...!" or, words to that effect...(!). Botany Bay is no "Proof" of Interplanetary Colon-isation being Possible, let alone Inevitable. So says the Alpha-Male Swamp Wallaby currently poking his head through my doorway ; seeking to share my breakfast. Only 191 years after the Sheep & Potato Brigade first appeared, here... When Elon releases his gullible wannabe Martian Colon-ists...; They'll find that "Living off the Land" as Arthur Phillip's First Fleet had to do, Fishing Sydney Harbour with Nets, shooting Marsupials and Wildfowls to fend-off Starvation While waitin' For Resupply from England via Sooth EffriKa...; Is a wee bit Difficult when they're tryin' to go Homesteading on The 4th Rock Orbiting Sol. My prediction is that Anthropogenic Global Warming will take out Elon's whole operation with a Hailstorm, featuring Apple to Coconut - sized Hailstones arriving at transonic speed, dropping in from 35,000 ft... Or Some such similar Unprecedented Record-breakingly Intense, Extreme Weather Event...; well before Elon's little Starshit Ever launches for Mars. Time will tell, And the Thymes..., They be A' Changeling....! Such is life, Have a good one. Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !

I don't think they're even that good.

Depends entirely on what time horizon you choose. Next 50 years, probably, but the next 500 years?

So you are saying there is a chance...

He already did. I have seen that video. A cloud city on Venus is the title its under mega projects.

Precisely, so why bother with Mars

​@@tomwalter8536redundancy from meteor strike

If we can terraform Earth, we can terraform Venus.😂

we can't save Earth how can we terraform something else?😂

Overpopulation.

Haha true. Tho on earth politics F up most things, not lack of capability

Circular farming? Why do it on Mars - we need to do it here!!

I hate, not love, this arrogance.

By the time we start, we’ll have fixed it.

Stop voting for socialists and the problems on Earth will stop.

They're just another set of problems to solve. That's it. That's all. It'll take awhile, but solving problems is what human beings *do* . We're almost as good at that as we are at *creating* them. 😁

If we're so confident we can terraform planets, why don't we start with saving Earth from its current trajectory?

Or better yet... focus all of this intelligence and resources on saving the one working planet we currently have.

@@benjaminjackson8663Or do both

We ARE going to the Moon first.

Sure at least now that the time table for Spacex based Mars venture has proven to be somewhat unreliable. Before that it was pretty much about exploring Mars and even trying to settle it. @@ebonaparte3853

You might want to bring the temperature down to a livable level.

​@@mad0scientistif you don't care about time, just need a few solar shades, which is within our tech right now. It'll cool on it's own

There's the tiny issue of the 2,916 hour night...

Gents what i meant is if you bring hydrogen to venus which escaped when water broke down over time you can turn sulfuric acid clouds to more water ish clouds and with acid resistant photosynthetic bacteria will just turn ALL THE CO2 into carbonate rock and release O2 aaaand within just a few hundred years bacteria will have done 99% of the hard work for you after you bring all that hydrogen they need to replicate so much. As for rotation... welp enjoy eyeball planet not a huge issue btw Also to get all the hydrogen you either take it from jupiter somehow or just scoop the solar wind for a looooong time.

The idea for Venus is actually to live in the clouds, because we can't get to the surface.

which might be possible if the theory on the warp drive can be engineered. Then we could add mass by importing. But if we had the warp drive why would we bother?

We would have to make such a colony self contained in effect to mitigate the gas expulsion risk.

You're a buzzkill.

I seem to recall someone once proposed covering the _entire planet_ with a pressure dome...problem solved 🤣

No. Just no. Escape velocity has to do with the planet, not the gas surrounding it. Escape velocity from Mars is just over 5 km/s. If you were to create a standard earth atmosphere on Mars, the speed of sound would be 0.343 km/s, or about 1/15th of escape velocity. And the speed of sound decreases with temperature, so even less chance of gas escaping because of low gravity. Mars lost most of its atmosphere because it lost its magnetic field. This allowed solar wind particles to collide with the atmosphere. Each collision could accelerate a gas molecule to escape velocity, slowly stripping the atmosphere from the planet. Even the moon's gravity is enough for an atmosphere, at about 2.38 km/s. But again, no magnetic field, no protection from solar wind stripping gas away.

Venus has a surplus of CO2. Freeze it into dry ice and using mass drivers launch it at Mars and just crash them into Mars tons at a time. Eventually you'll rebuild them atmosphere to 1mb of pressure.

The problem is that Mars' gravity is not strong enough to keep anything that big in a stable orbit. Phobos and Deimos are very small, and, even so, one is scaping the gravity, the other is falling into the planet. Inertial momentum would simply slingshot the artificila moon away, towards the Sun, but going in the general direction of the biggest object in the near vicinity, . In this case, THE EARTH!

@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 True. I wonder if we'll ever have the technical ability to possibly collide enough asteroids into Mars to change that, and if it would be practical to create another Earth-like mass in the Solar System

Many rocks, and from the inside of the frost line in the asteroid belt. Objects from the far side of the frost line would be better to throw at Mars, as sources of water. Same with Kuiper Belt objects.

@@oninoyakamo we already have one of those...its called Venus, if you're going to Terra form a planet might as well start with one that got a compatible Gravity for the biology you eventually want to seed it with

@@johntowers1213 Imagining long-term gravitational physics games is more fun than trying to figure out how to sequester or dissipate Venus' ridiculous atmosphere. Venus would probably be safer to play with in reality.

You mean, such as transitioning transportation away from fossil-fuel burning engines? Something like that?

@@thomashiggins9320 well, I was thinking maybe he could replant the Amazon to combat climate change. LOL

​@@thomashiggins9320By producing CO2-intensive lithium batteries that are also destructive to ecosystems. Indeed saving the planet lol

wribg

Earth is terraformed just fine.