Terraria: Minion i-frames are... important 

So having a finch and a frog is better than having two frogs? What a world.

This is the video we needed. I often get asked about Minion i-frames when I recommend mixing minions but I have trouble explaining or just don't feel like writing the bible in general, so this video is very useful. Also, something worth nothing is that since Flinx bounces off its target whenever it hits, having a second Flinx is perfectly fine despite i-frames because one Flinx doesn't reach its max hitrate anyway.

what annoys me about one of the recent changes was to the Frost Hydra sentry, i wanted to do a sentries-centric run due to the sentry changes in 1.4.4 and expected to do well with the Frost Hydra, but they used global frames which sucked. and then a later patch had a change where they use static frames instead which did nothing i'm just confused why they went with static frames, they were soooo close

We went over this with Leinfors in the months leading up to 1.4.4; local Spaz was tested and found to be so disproportionately powerful that the only way to "balance" it would be to nerf the base damage by an insane amount, only for it to still be OP when you add tag damage due to the crazy amount of hits per second. It was tricky business but I'm glad that the non-piercing laser is what we ultimately ended up with

Sockrteez after using ichor flask, spinal tap with 4 hornets on skeletron in an obsidian armour showcase: "This sign can't stop me because I can't read"

one more thing not mentioned is that static projectiles reset hit enemy's standard s to 0 no matter what it was before, meaning they can allow your standard weapons to deal more dps

It's still incredible to me that I get to learn things from a game I've played over 2000 hours of thanks to channels like these.

life lesson: more same minion bad, get different minion, enemy don't turn god mode

As someone who mainly plays summoner, this video was incredibly helpful. I’ve known about minion I-frames, but not the specifics of how they work. Thanks for the explanation, it was so clear and helpful.

One of the most useful mechanics that get easily overlooked. Thank you for this video

Was hoping a video like this would come out. This is really helpful thanks!

Great video! This was a pretty intuitive breakdown of I-frames. I'm subbing.

At least Minions have static system way different than a certain ranged old throwing grenade filled with bees that STILL WITH GLOBAL

This is an incredibly helpful video that I will most definitely go back to during my future summoner playthroughs

this video is so fucking right. this is one of my VERY few complaints with terraria, i don't want to stress out about which minions i'm using bc of local vs static i-frames, the only deciding factors should be minion AI & dps. a game mechanic that the game itself doesn't tell you about shouldn't have so much impact on the game, not knowing about this would make playing summoner horrible because your upgrades would be doing *nothing* at times, for seemingly no reason. relogic please i'm begging on my knees this shit has been bothering me for months now

I'm so happy about the information that the finch staff uses local i-frames. Go little bird, go :D

ive had to watch this and the whip stacking video 3 times each but i think i understand it well enough now thank you for the videos

and to think I was planning to make a docs about minion mixing. hahahah! you beat me to it, terrasteel. what a great video.

I wish I'd known sooner that the optic staff has some.. _problems_ with immunity frames. Probably would've went for a different summon.

Wonderful information, thanks for breaking it all down 👍

i keep coming back to this video because i'm forgetful. despite me being like that, the explanation is the best! it was hard to find info like this, let alone stuff like the spiders. THANK - YOU! no seriously. thank you thank you

i love your videos! ❤

Was literally just thinking about if i had to switch from blade staff to maximise damage, then you brought it up.

God I hope Spazmamini gets local I-frames optic staff is one of my favorite summons 😭

thank you, very informative

Damn, this guy is definedly in linguistics class and i like it.

I agree with you on this 100%

Thank you for this video

I played with the weapon out mod in 1.3.5, and I used the fist weapons that the mod adds. This exact problem prevented me from using minions at all because the fist attacks would phase through the enemies and caus me to take damage when I normally wouldn't. It sucked especially hard because the mod also adds a multi class lunar armour set for the fist subclass and summoner

And that’s why the blade staff the goat, good video

1:15 how it feels to anger a large wasp colony

So for my summoner playthrough I just need to know which minions use static I frames. So I can mix them with other minions?

also pre-hardmode, farming for the vampire frog early game + flinch staff is the optimal way than having the imp staff. simply because imp always floats and attack incredibly slow

Summoners really still do need a buff, especially when it comes to combining accessory’s.

could you make a similar video talking about this information in relation to calamities summoner weapons?

holy moly that is way mor ein depth than i was thinking lol i love terar :3

I was wondering why my minions where doing no damage, thank you man !

holy shit i've been enlightened broom good. also rod of discord but i don't wanna farm for that when i do another summoner run in 1.4.5 i'm gonna try that, that's SO MUCH more damage do you have the full footage of that EoL fight?

You know what they say, a bird and a frog is worth 2 in the bush (or something like that) In all seriousness, great explanation of i-Frames, been looking for one for a while

what texture pack chabges terraprism? it looks very good

ancient ice chunk in a nutshell.

I remembered their was an old glitch that would take out immunity frames for everything and it was crazy

wait a minute, This might explain why when doing a calamity playthrough on summoner, even though I got like a dozen minion upgrades throughout several bosses post moonlord, I barely got any dps up

you would think, in an update where they give some minions local immunity frames, THAT THEY WOULD GIVE THEM ALL LOCAL I-FRAMES. saying 🖕to some select summoner weapons is insane to me. the spider thing is so baffling to me, why would they implement a more complicated feature JUST to nerf people who use more than 3 spiders. why would they realize global was bad but not static? for balance reasons? just lower the damage or hit rate to make up for it! they did it for Deadly Sphere, why not everything else? i loved 1.4.4 and most of the changes with it, but summoner is still missing some common sense design. people already think stacking 4 of 1 minion will quadruple your damage. why not just make it true?

nice

I mixed minions anyways to try and maximize the debuffs they gave, didn’t actually know it was useful tho

I have a question. Does static i-frames block the same weapon on multiplayer? Lets say me and my friend are using last prim, do both of us hit or we block each other?

1:35 London.

Like couldn't the dash attack have something that states. That it can't hit the same enemy multiple times in one attack then you could switch it to local

Optic staff is still my favorite summon

The spider staff... What.

good bideo

In a way I kind of like the fact that they block each other, encouraging you to use multiple minions, which is a bit more interesting imo. I just dont like how ass most of the minions are at tracking fast moving bosses. If they could improve on that, I would prefer using multiple staves.

What's the staff of the mechworm syndrome?

Spazmamini should have local i frames but it would need nerfing for that to happen, nonetheless, making Retinamini lasers non piercing is the right thing to do to make the staff decent

i just beated my calamity infernum mod playthrough, i wished i learned my mistakes

Would this mean that the best way to maximize summon damage in pre-hardmode is bee armor plus pygmy(blood moon witch doctor), summoner potion, and get literally every single minion possible (finch, slime, hornet, flinx, imp/abigail) while whip stacking with snapthron, spinal tap, and leather whip. Also, let's not forget sentries, the squire shield plus the war table so you can get flameburst, ballista, and the eye turret(from deerclops)

Summoner are confusing as hell

So wait… does deadly sphere staff use static or local frames?

This is the coolest thing i would never get by playing by myself. So basically summoner are pokemon masters that slowly assemble their army.

But why are many people using Flinx and frog staff against the wall of flesh for example? I mean the imp staff has more damage and also static i frames? This coule replace the flinx for example.

i get static for some balancing reasons but is there ANY reason to use global immunity?

100% Shyguymask comments on this video

i love the pure damage output of summoner class but this shits way too complicated + (whip stacking) so it drives me away from this class sometimes

summoner is hard

I've wondered why some summons just sucked

I kind of like static i-frames because it encourages mixing minions, which nobody ever does Maybe have it only be static on feather worthy

Me who just started a Summoning playthrough: *Immense sweating*

ngl i find minion mixing pretty cool, shame there really isn't much of a reason to do it outside of pre-hardmode

Someone needs to tell red about this

This is a bad mechanic. The problem with this is that the game never tells you about this. If you are a new player you may use x3 or x4 frogs thinking that you are doing x3 or x4 damage but instead its a x1, same thing with imp staff or spider staff. The game should be intuitive: More summonings, more damage, or AT LEAST it should explain to you how this mechanic works. Besides it's complicated because even if you know about this mechanic you don't know how many minioms you can have before they stop each other and searching that data in the internet every time you get a weapon can be very annoying. I see two posible solutions: 1. deleting the i-frames mechanics and balancing the dmg around that, 2. putting a limit about how many minioms of X weapon you can have. F.e. you can only summon 1 frog, 3 spiders, X imps, Y optic staff. That way you don't have to worry at all about i-frames since the game already "guides you" to not fall into that trap, besides it has some coolness in it, you are a summoner, you don't go there with an army of imps, you go with an army of different monsters with different functions.

I dont fully agree with your opinion on this. I think it could be very interesting if mixed minions is a superior strategy than spamming a single type. I think especially with the spider staff it seems pretty ok. It doesnt block damage of more minions outright, it gives diminishing returns. Which means spamming a stronger weapon is still good, but mixing in some weaker weapons is viable

English isn't my native language, and I'm kind of new to the game. What's the lesson to keep in my mind, the conclusion ? To use differents minions, because they stack poorly ?

Optic staff should be local immunity frames the mini spaz getting destroyed by relogic

Plottwist... Damage have cooldown like potions.

Wait so stardust dragon isnt pure garbage for mages anymore?

FINALLY SOMEONE EXPLAINS THIS BS TO ME BRO I KEEP HEARING STATIC THIS LOCAL THAT AND HAD NOIDEA WHAT THEY WERE SAYIN

The thing with Optic Staff is single handed the reason why i backed off from summoner and seeing they haven't really fixed the stupid staff is really underwhelming lol

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I believe that the different spider types/ colours have different s, so you can use 3 spiders without any dps loss.

I think this is partly supposed to support minion variety? Never really been a problem for me

As a summoner main, I can confirm that I cried tears of joy while watching this.

And my dumbass running with 3 frogs, although it should be good for the eater right? Different segments and such.

you know i do love Terraria i really do, but thing like these are what breaks the games enjoyment for me sometimes, i expect if i summin 100 spiders i get 100x the damage that a single spider would do since there are 100 of them, but knowing now that this is COMPLETELY useless to summon more than 6 and even that is stupid makes me......sad

"More minions is way more complicated than just straight up more damage" debunked This video explains it very well, now my friend needs to understand english :/

Your voice reminds me of Cartman

So does this mean the hornet staff is the best pre hard mode summon

EoL daytime is easiest with summoner, lower defense of the class doesn't matters anymore because it oneshots you anyways and you focus more on dodging since you have minions

i was listening to this while playing terraria and had a heart attack when the video finished because i thought i accidentally spawned empress of light

Yrimir...?

This is why Slime Staff is the weakest summon weapon in the game.

i think minions with static frames are better for single targets, wheras minions with local frames are better with crowd control

They probably should leave pre-hardmode minions with static I-frames to prevent money making farms being easier to make

This explains why som minions ar just usles and other godtear

Someone send this to redigit before 1.4.5

I have lightning hands, but a phone that loses long distance races against snails.

What if you summon different minions that are static? Will they deal dmg?

So 1 frog and 1 finch is better than 1000 frogs huh…

Why are these videos that absolutely noone asked for so interesting

you this both sucks and cool simultaniously. i really like how this thing encourages us to mix summons, but on the other hand that obviously shouldn't work like that. i really want terraria to have some deep game mechanics like that for every class. that'll be so cool if they make some another mechanic to encourage us to mix minions.