I love the fact that all of them try to get the pit away after it attacked Ronin, it really shows the bond they feel together as a pack! I love your videos and how you explain the small gestures and what they mean it really helps especially when I'm working with my own dogs
@@robertmedina7313 Lol you didnt pay attention at all. The pit bull was going after his dog everytime lol. Yes he jumped the fence but backed down and avoided conflict but rest of the whole video was just him defending himself against the pit bull.
Your breakdown of dog body language and behavior is more helpful to me than you would know. I have a 4 year old german shepherd female who is intact. She is the leader of our dog walking group pack. She is never an instigator, and doesn’t engage in play with the younger dogs, but she tolerates no nonsense from another dog. She also doesn’t like when the younger dogs get their energy too high and will correct that. Her corrections are always spot on. Thank you for your analyses, and keep up the good work. It is very educational for your followers.
My female German shepherd is exactly the same way. She's mellow and only cares about chasing the ball at the park, but don't cross those boundaries lol
@@empty-voiid statistics show that only 5-10% dog bites are in the pitbull territory they get confused with other dogs "20-25% German shepherds" and 65-70 other dog breeds. Look it up... People like you ruin the culture... It's the owner that is not training the dog right... Not the pit, "Don't hate the player hate the game"
You’re smart enough to know treats and toys at a dog park are great ways to spark up a dog fight. Putting your dogs and other people’s dogs in this situation for content is kinda sick.
My dog is intact and never take him to a dog park. Neutered dogs do not like intact males which create dangerous situations (for both sides). I would never intentionally put him in these kind of environment. There’s a reason why vets call dog parks an “open air fight market”. You seem to know what you’re doing but many other dog owners (at a dog park) don’t. I wouldn’t put my dog at the mercy of others’ carelessness. Please be careful. They’re beautiful pups!
If vets do call them that knowingly they are contributing to it all of course this is america we don't care about animals here really we still spay and neuter them after all when they don't do that in most other european countries
There's nothing wrong taking intact dogs to a dog park, My dogs are intact and have never got into a fight, and they're Rottie and a bullmassiff... It's good for dogs to socialize with other dogs... Is dogs that are not socialized enough that get into fights... So by avoiding situations that are uncomfortable for you You're not doing your dog any good.... Dog absolutely need socialization with intact and neutered dogs alike.... That's how you get a well-rounded dog.... 99% of fights are going to end with no real harm being done....
My neutered GSD male's best friend is an unaltered husky male from around the neighborhood. If anything, the husky is more testy. I've also had him part of a dog park for 5 years with both neutered and unaltered males and noticed zero issues that arose in direct correlation to this. The issue here is an ignorant owner and an untrained dog, which 9/10 times is the reason there's fights at the dog park in my 8 years of experience. Fortunately these fights were mild bc had these two breeds truly went at it there'd be serious injuries.
@@EsmeraldaWolfsbane7777 that's a blatantly ignorant statement to make. I love it when uneducated people try to shame clearly competent dog owners. Thanks for the laugh.
Not sure why you keep frequenting that dog park. You have access to enough dogs that they can play among themselves with much less risk of some canine or human getting hurt.
Ha ha. How would you like your interactions limited to a handful of people for the rest of your life? I know there are some really dumb and/or aggressive owners out there but I imagine this park is in a fairly decent area and so that kind of dog/owner will be pretty rare. It's good for dogs to learn how to work things out with other dogs. Dogs don't take little scuffles personally. Obviously, you don't want to see your dogs getting into scrapes with dogs which are full on aggressive but there aren't too many like that around in decent areas. I guess it's the intact dogs which stir the pot - even if it's unintentional.
@@PeteH0121 They are pack animals so i see your point. Ever since the 3 dog pile up on my knee I’ve been avoiding dog parks but looking for opportunities for my guy to hang out with one other dog at a time.
while dog parks are not the best places to socialize dogs dogs need more than just their pack to socialize with if you want a well adjusted dog. a lot of trainers even say while its good your dog has others at home they will never be able to socialize with others outside of their immediate pack if they are never given the chance to. some people are ok with this as they do not lead a life where they take their dog everywhere or give them much exposure to anything thats not in the backyard. but for owners of dogs who have to be around other dogs everyday because of their jobs and lifestyle this method can hinder the dog severely. this owner cant take their dog to a dog friendly cafe since the dog has limited exposure to other dogs, this owner cant bring their dog to dog friendly events, this owner cant bring a dog to any kind of park, traveling with such dogs is difficult, this dog cant be boarded if the owner goes on vacation, and this dog wont be able to go to training classes with other dogs to desensitize.
@@angelinacamacho8575 Long before dog parks were a thing our dogs were well socialized at 4-H dog club and other activities. Later when I had my Belgian Terv I discovered that dog parks were too stimulating for her. More recently, with this dog my son brought home, the instructor of the puppy class, who is quite a veteran trainer, is very much against them. Her feeling is that there are too many injuries which occur and that your dog can pick up worms and other diseases. She believes in an app called “Sniff Spot.” I haven’t found it necessary to use this. I have a fully fenced yard and I take the dog hiking. When I have taken him to the dog park he has been fine with other dogs. He was not fine when I attempted to use a doggy daycare. Way, way, way too stimulating. Luckily I discovered the app Rover where i found a private carer. I think if used judiciously dog parks definitely have something to offer. I would just say be very, very careful if you have a nervous dog. Don’t go at peak hours.
i would assume its for people that have "working dogs" as in they are highly trained and know how to socialize and usually work with other animals or other dogs. i feel 95% of dogs would not do well here lol who keeps building these and paying for them?
I agree, people like this fella making this video, thinks he knows so much, I think he did everything wrong. His dog jumping the fence and crowding dogs on leash, so wrong. That is why the other dog was defensive. I’d have told him to get his dog away from mine until we were inside and I could get mine off leash. Total dickhead move
@@oui2826i didn't say it was a good place but it is not a bad place you need your dog to socialize and learn that's how dogs learn by getting corrected my other dogs i know it's not all the time but it is most the time
He presents training in 7 days. Each of 7 items are commands that he believes a dog should know. They are presented in part ii of the book ru-vid.comUgkxK8-VQWpYThx4IC6MiIvb6VS1ebTzzdxq . The parts of the guideare divided: part i know your dog part ii the seven commands part iii cures for 7 behavior problems. Each chapter presents a topic, a dog's story, and a "what to do". It was written simply and you can jump from chapter to chapter to review anything as needed.
I like how the two owners were willing to try to figure it out and work with each other. Just because your dogs didn’t get along right away doesn’t mean the owners can’t respect each other anymore. PS, ronin is one badass dog haha highly train and extremely capable!
I like how the guy takes his dog into the park just to get a video and stir everything up but he’s a good dog owner. Yeah right if he came down to a dog park and had a fight, the neighbors would kick him out.
I like how this guy takes all these dogs that dont listen to him or get attacked “all the time” as he said it to the dog park and then once he gets attacked again just brushes it off and goes again like it a joke for your dog to be attacked multiple times!! That dog is going to be attacked by the wrong dog that will actually do something🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@walksfar68completely agree, this guy is supposed to be showing that he is a good dog owner, I think he did almost everything wrong, first thing is his dog jumping the fence getting close to dogs on leash. He is exactly why I don’t go to dog parks. Owners think they know so much. I’d have told him to get his dog away from mine until they are inside and off leash. That is why the other dogs were defensive. What a joke
@@Cmon-ManI have to agree. The guy making the video surely is sensitive and reads well dog behaviour signs etc. Respect. What he failed here is connecting the dots. Logic and reason. "R. never jumped over the fence before" "R. never barked like this before" Cmon mate clearly you had a problem here between these two dogs from the very start. You cannot rely on training, you need to take precaution, avoiding further contact. Imagine the other dog was also with 1-2 big agressive dogs instead of that shy great Pyrenee. Big chance you would have ended in out of control group dog fight.
Just curious: why continue visiting dog parks when you can clearly see the dangers that arise in there? An accident big enough can turn pretty much any dog into a reactive mess, especially if it's a growing puppy. I simply wouldn't risk it. To add, bringing high value items (like treats and toys) into dog parks is a horrendous idea. And before anyone calls me a snowflake - I know that dogs occasionally correct one another and it can look gnarly but a full-blown fight (and the fact that more than one happens in a short period of time!) is what I have a problem with.
You're right. My biggest concern is that this is quickly becoming dog-baiting clickbait. This handler understands the risk involved with taking an intact, high drive dog with flaky recall and a dominant personality to a dog park. Yet, here we have another video of his dog engaged in a fight. The treats on the park bench were icing on the cake. There are so many blatant red flags. I'm starting to wonder if it's really all about views.. at the expense of his own pet. It's concerning that so many comments are praising the educational value of the video, considering it's not accurately reflecting the scenario. The Mal was not passive with that pit mix. He provoked this incident, just as he provoked the one in the last video with a different dog. How many more videos have to be posted before people realize the Mal is effectively being used as bait by his owner?
@@syzygyfarm For the very ending of your comment to have or hold any kind of weight, he would have first had to KNOW that particular PIT BULL would be at that park, at that given time, and that his MALINOIS would behave exactly as it did, for that to be the case the bloke would have to have known the future, which just underlines the absurdity of your claim. Some of what you say is fair, the treats, the title and so on. But the fact is, in life, everywhere, in any field, ppl will try to appeal to the masses in order to get the kinda exposure that gives them the growth they are looking for, sadly a title like "dog fight at the park" gets more immediate views than " 7 dogs play happily at the park ", the thing is, something tells me you already know this but have somewhat of an agenda against this guy. Some of his behaviour is questionable, that's fair but you delve too deep finding correlations where they don't exist in a feigned attempt at making it appear to be baiting when it's nothing more than cause and effect, cause that the only way he would be able to reduce in any way would be to not go to the park at all. Im sorry but you do understand he has more than one dog right. Should he take the rest to the park and leave him at home because he's intact and it might upset another.
I wouldn't call you a snowflake, and while I get your point about high value items, such as the treats and toys etc, I don't think you're giving enough credence to a dog park being the perfect place to reward positive learned behaviours in an attempt to build the right kind of behaviour you want to see in your dog. I realise you can do that with praise but that depends on the methods that particular trainer uses. I don't claim to know how he rewards behaviour, but treats is one such method. This is why hindsight is 20/20 without the gift of foresight how is he to know what dog is in the park, the kinda behaviour that is likely to occur in other dogs, and naturally how to tailor his behaviour to mitigate it. In this instance the Pit mix and Pyrenees had no interest in the treats or toys and therefore those such things played no role in the drama that unfolded. There were 3 factors that played a major role in how the events turned out as they did and sadly due to having no understanding of the dogs( and their story ) that were going to be present.... There was no way to mitigate that. Surely you could mitigate by not going to the park but that would just fit this cancel and reductive culture we all live by these days, it's so limiting, and only plays a part in fuelling the fear further that eventually leads to poor socialisation. Sometimes you have to remember there are two/three humans and many dogs there that's a lot of personalities to keep in check, adding two very fearful dogs a bunch of females and 1 intact male and another neutered male, well that's just a terrible mix to begin with. It doesn't matter how well trained a dog is, hell the same could be said about us humans, WE ARE ALL passengers when it comes to control, especially when it's our chemical reactions to our emotions that fuel our behaviours. It's easy to point the finger but scenarios just like this have too many factors involved for 1 person to be to blame for it all. I think the situation was handled well given the circumstances.
@@robertshaw3619 As a guy who has bred and trained dogs for more than 40 years, (owner for 60 years); to watch and guard off the leash, they "HAVE TO RESPECT" the power of 'no', 'come', 'come behind', 'sit', 'stay', 'behind', 'heel', 'drop' or 'down'! I did not hear any meaningful commands from this internet dog owner/supposed trainer?? Never use 'sit down", as they are 2 separate commands, that only confuses the training of your dog. It is either 'sit or heel' and 'down or drop' and with hand commands thru their early training. Good dogs will drop; on the flat palm facing down and pushed 10cm groundwards after the 'come' and/or 'heel' command !! You can NOT have 5 dogs from 6 month old pups to adult dogs off leash in a public park and gain one meaningful bit of training that will stick with the animal? It's utter chaos from what I have just observed and the Bully was confronted first, when the pack owners dog jumped the fence into the Bullies enclosure and confronted the owner and his leashed animal?? You are obviously not a dog owner and I am astounded that you took @syzygyfarm to task in you first rambling post. They simply pointed out the obvious that one owner was in an enclosure with non contolled dogs, with treats and toys. These are reward items and used thru the training period as aids. The second owner came into his enclosure with both his dogs on a leash and owner 1's dogs raced down out of control and the alpha male jumped the fence into owner 2's compound and confronted his under control dog.. You are completely wrong to judge @syzygyfarm as wrong for his valid observations? I have always said that if you see an idiot dog running across a park, you will soon see an idiot owner chasing behind it. Perfect example here of what not to do. Train the older dog to come, heel, sit and stay before bringing them out in public. The laws clearly state that all dogs should be on leash in public. He let 5 or 6 out of his car unleashed and they were doing what they wanted until he got them into the enclosure, where they still kept doing what they wanted. 110% the fault of the Idiot pack owner!! Turn the video off, put the dogs on leads and train them 1 at a time until they will come on command??
Learning experience for the dogs also socialization, it’s dangerous if they don’t know proper body language, this is how they learn social hierarchy and how to act
This guy is an idiot looking for views ,he thinks his Ronin runs the dog park ,he's an idiot worst of all he's actually aware and still an idiot who should be banned from dog parks this is a very dangerous way to train dogs it could result in serious attacks and this idiot encourages it.obviously got a problem with anything that looks like a pit bull.an idiot with dangerous dogs .he clearly shows that he cannot control them especially Ronin..malaka.
It was really good to see the owner staying calm and helping to de escalate the confrontation. Rarely do you see this at dog parks. People are always too quick to not allow the dogs to work things out, I think increasing the chance it happens again. It would be like stopping kids on the playground every time they got into a disagreement before they learned how to manage the confrontation. Allowing your dogs to build confidence off leash is why dog parks are good places to socialize. Confidence builds confidence.
I disagree. If they don't like each other, keep them separated. Why risking a fight with serious injury? Isn't worth it. It's not like they have to live together
Dog parks are a terrible place to socialize dogs. A place to bring problem dogs to socialize. My pup got attacked by a German shepherd when he was young. And from that point on has had an issue with other dogs. He’s a red heeler and he’s smart as hell. And remembers everything. Now I’m the guy with a problem and would never bring him to a park. But most will.
@@Saltfly Wouldn't you say that might be the issue though? The fact that after his first and only attack you never let him socialize with dogs at the park again? So the last experience he had and will have was negative?
@@davidjohansson8563while i agree that their dog should be socialising i don’t think the dog park is a good environment to do that. first of all it’s too many dogs at a time, then their dog would be off leash meaning dog could just go attack another dog because it’s reactive or dogs on the leash with untrained dogs who could possibly harm the dog a second time and it’ll be even harder to get him to stop being reactive. best way to do it is with one dog at a time both on a leash even better would be with a dog trainer and their dog.
Listening to Ronin cry getting his wound cleaned is so sad. I’ve seen people talk about who would win in a fight between a Pit Bull and Shepherd. It surprised me how many said the Shepherd would. For Ronin still being young he stood up for himself and put the Pit Bull in it’s place. The other man saying he has three dogs at home and they fight should know not to bring his dogs out to a dog park until his dogs know how to act around other people, children and other dogs. He was nice so I give him credit for that but if it was a smaller dog then the ending would have been worse.
unfortunately though even GSD's and Malinois are often out of their depth when matched against a true fighting bloodline stock, they are unnaturally cruel, produced by humans to go for the kill and ignore pain, they can literally go for hours while most would tire out after 20-30 minutes, there are accounts of pits with broken legs and chewed testicles still game for the fight its honestly the most cruel thing ever and fucked up we did that to our best friends. This is why I believe they need to be banned from reproducing any more.
@@Is_it_p I agree with what you have said except for the breeding part, the dogs should just be kept out of fights(excluding hunting) and should be bred by professionals who have experience and work on their dog's temperament.
I really love this format. What a great way to inform about dog-dog communication. Wish, more educators could adopt this. Thank you for your hard work 🙏
There is a lot of information out there that show that dog parks are really not good for dogs especially certain dogs. You never know what you will encounter from another dog or dogs. i love pit bulls but I am very aware of why they were created and they were not created to be dog friendly and they will lash out even against an owner if engaging in another fight with a dog. And they fight to the death even when they re sustaining serious injuries or risking death. My last pit bull just passed away and she was so sweet and loving but I did not take her to dog parks because I know the history of pit bulls. I now have a pure bred American Pitbull Terrier. He looks exactly like the original APBT from hundreds of years ago. They were created to fight animals and they are predators against small animals it is in their DNA. I take my male intact Pitbull for long walks but I never take him to dog parks. I cross the street if another dog is coming. And he is never off leash. And my Pit bull who passed and my current Pit bull have never been in a fight or altercation with another dog. It is not a calming or enjoyable situation for any dog to go out and have to fight other dogs. Just like when human go out for some rest and relaxation or exercise they do not want to fight other humans.
@Grand Champion May Day good looking pitbulls in the video! You get a pit! And you get a pit! Everybody gets a pitbulls! Lots of pitbulls in the video!
I see a couple of problems here. (1) The guys that came in with the dominant pit, should have recognized that that there was a large pack of dogs at the park. Dominant dogs don't like to feel overpowered or in a dangerous situation so it was expected to attack. (2) Having a large pack of strong dogs will make other dogs feel uneasy and react. When I see a person bring so many dogs that are not super friendly and non-aggressive, I leave the park because my dog wants to play by wrestling. Dogs in a pack wants to show others who the boss is and often get aggressive. To avoid that, I just leave and walk outside the park with my friendly dog. 80% of the time, after a few minutes, I hear the commotion and dogs fighting. The good thing is that my dog park is frequented by mostly the same people and many times they have kicked people and their dogs out. An aggressive breed, once bitten or attacked by another dog will make him aggressive to self-protect from future attacks. So I understand why many dog owners don't want to get their dogs to become aggressive.
Canela protecting you was so sweet. Thank you for explaining the dogs body language. I will get a young dog soon (a rescue 5 months❤) and I try to lean as much as possible to be a good mom. But it happens so fast🙈 I will keep learning!
Definitively there was bad blood between the pit and the malinois, not a good idea to keep them close. After the first confrontation the owner should have know that. Only my opinion but I´m not a dog trainer.
@timebomblol You're literally speaking out of your neck right now. It takes a lot of courage and dedication to control 5 dogs, and YOU don't have that. His breakdowns ARE correct. And if you think otherwise, tell me EVERYTHING that you believe is false.
Crazy how Canela is just like our Maggie, not aggressive, very playful and, so affectionate but, she'll protect her momma no question asked. She will not back down and very protective. Other dogs coming at us too quickly are gently reminded to be cool. Amazing dog, total package.
I love how dog owners here are saying how they never take their dogs to 'dog parks' due to out-of-control dogs. But then let their dogs loose to disturb other people in other parks and claim their dog was 'just being friendly'. Keep you dog in a dog park to understand how others feel who are just going about their day.
lots of people here in peru especially lima have dogs who free roam and no one bats an eye at them even when the dog is off leash and attacks a dog who isnt. but god forbid that dog was on leash and attacked people would think it was aggressive. a lot of dogs here have learned to do drive by attacks. its where a dog tries to attack another or actually does and immediately runs away to catch up with its owner who doesnt do shit.
@@angelinacamacho8575 that's strange, it's kind of the reverse here. If someone dog growls or showing threatening behaviour towards another person, the owner says nothing. Most feel a sense of empowerment that someone is scared of their dog. However, if the dog is aggressive to another dog they start making all these excuses like, "he normally doesn't do that".
@@djfearross4144 most here believe that aggressive dogs make good protectors and therefore bad behavior is justified because the dog was protecting them from a threat. im sorry but how is an angry chihuahua a justifiable threat? sure they are demon spawn when angry but even they dont deserve to be torn to shreds. i also dont get why people in dense cities allow their dogs to free roam or walk off leash in areas where its not safe.
@@angelinacamacho8575 But here, people don't really have dogs for protection, unless they live out in a village or countryside for example. I too don't understand why people in cities allow their dogs off the leash! Then they pretend that they didn't see their dog pooping on the pavement. Tengo que decir algo... tu ingles es fenominal.
@@djfearross4144 thank you im from the u.s though lol. but yeah a lot of dogs here are for protection but i have yet to see a so called protection dog here who isnt afraid to challenge a person. most are scared and attack out of fear and ive seen more dog to dog so called protection attacks than ive seen dog to human ones. a lot of them either arent trained properly or the owner thinks out of control territorial dog equates to protection.
If you see that a fight is going to break out, why even risk it? Honest question. I have a trained dog like yours but as soon as I see that type of behavior I just leave or ask them for space. I honestly don’t see the point in you putting yourself or your dogs in danger.
your fear gets sensed by your dogs and trains them to be fearful of other dogs for you. Think of it as a teaching moment to assert your alpha mentality to your dogs. Correct in the moment then forget and move on.
Dude your work is phenomenal, so much info and details in such a small video, really appreciate your work, keep it coming homie! P.s. Ronin is such a beautiful dog!
He knows what he’s talking about but corrects the dogs super late he missed a lot of correctional behavior which causes a lot of these issues that’s just me tho
This situation was severely heightened by Ronin jumping out and pushing a greeting before they’d even got in, then all your dogs barking and crowding the gate as they entered, and barking/crowding during the altercation. Super irresponsible.
please keep in mind that the video owner's dogs already had "possession'' of the park exercise area. When the new dogs showed up, it was natural for them to challenge. Dogs can be territorial, even on park turf which is not their home.
I think you do a good job of filming the interactions between the dogs and explaining how to read their body language and the emotions/feelings going along with it. Very helpful for first-time dog owners or even for people preparing before taking a puppy into their household. Actually, probably even helpful for lots of dog owners who haven't been able to understand their dog's behavior and interaction with other dogs to that extent.
Misleading title, searching your other videos you have a few for clicks, don't think you know what an attack is, your malinois went attack mode first, seems that way in a few videos, perhaps the reason is not the other dogs problem but yours, its hard to de-escalate as well when the whole pack is against one dog too, the pit was pretty good considering he also didn't show leash aggression when your dog jumped the fence toward him. Seems a common theme in your videos with the malinois, wonder why that is
I really hope u never get a powerful breed with that delusion😂his dog backed off and tried disengaging every time he could the pit was walking around challenging everyone if you honestly think his dog was just gonna sit there and get bullied then ur a clown😂do you’re research and actually use ur eyes next time.
There's abuse and then there's a correction. You're being soft. Get a grip. In their world it's a mild correction. Stop humanising animals. We fucked up our own species with all this soft shit there too much of a communication barrier between man and dog to start shoving abuse into the mix.
@@creativebeing1mals are dogs used for war. I’ve known mals that have done some things to people with precision unlike anything you’ve ever seen. Pit bulls are brash, sloppy, and brutish. That mal had the fight, and I have no doubt would’ve killed that pit Bull if needed. Mals are specifically bred, they are what people intended for pit bulls. Mals are focused violence, with energy unmatched by any other dog, and their agility is fine tuned. There’s a reason the army uses them
@@elijahhamilton4097 I respect the fact that you like mal's and i think they are superb dogs, but they stand very little chance in a fight against a real pit bull, which are not the dogs you see on youtube.
@elijahhamilton4097 against this pit yea, an apbt pit is different and would absolutely destroy a mal, hate to burst your bubble but game pits are something else, hell a lot of game pits beat livestock guardian dogs, it's just fact, not saying pits are untouchable tho
Personally walking in with a pack of 5 in a public place off leash is asking for trouble ..the pitt was overwhelmed and prob got defensive.. Personally.. looks like its bad training to me.
@@RebeccaTaylorTillery you never bring a whole pack to a dog park though. packs tend to stay together and form a pack mentality in a park setting. this can be an issue since its like bringing a whole gang of people in to a tiny store type of thing. at the most ive only brung 2 dogs at a time.
@@RebeccaTaylorTillery 2 is fine but any amount over 3 is asking for it. i had 2 dogs playfully gang up on mine who loves that kind of play and everything went well but if that was happening with only 2 dogs i can only imagine how 4 or 5 dogs would be.
I am 60 yrs old and have had numerous dogs. Ive never once even came close to needing a dog for protection. Ive been associated with or friends or friends of friends of many dogs and ive never known one person needing their dogs help for protection. They have all been loving pets wanting loving and giving loving. Ive never placed a log chain to grow their neck strength. Ive never thrown them in a pool to swim and swim. I want them friendly and loving and sleeping in my bed. My problem is when we have 10 friendly dogs playing at the dog park and someone shows up with a pit or two wanting to come in and play. They are the usual a-holes that force 90% to leave the park within 2 min. The owners are so proud walking their dogs just hoping another dog yips a little too closely. Ignorant owners. They are the owners walking a 150 lb Corso thru the grocery store
Had a very large aggressive pit come unaccompanied into my yard on a couple of occasions looking for trouble. Bought a sling shot to discourage him but he came back before it arrived. I was in the yard with several of my mals. The pit attacked my male straight away but one of my girls jumped right into the fight. Pit quickly realized his mistake and ran but my two pursued him. Male bit into his face while my girl bit into his butt. When he tried to turn and get her the male would bite harder and shake his face. When he tried to get a hold of my male my female would shake and bake harder on his butt. They finally let him escape, quite damaged. I never saw him again. Think the moral of the story is; don’t go looking for trouble, you just might find it.
So you take your dogs to the dog park with ZERO ability to recall them and yet you are here giving animal behavior advice?? You caused this fight because you are not in control!
OMG, that was scary. =0 I am glad it was broken up quickly each time they were about to really get into it. I don't mean to sound like I am against Pit Bulls (I am not and like all dogs), but I don't think certain breeds are the best fit for dog parks in general. Pit Bulls are some of those types of dogs. Not saying there are no Pit Bulls that do good in dog parks, because I have seen there are for myself and understand that not all dogs called Pit Bulls are even the same breed (American Pit Bulls, American Staffordshires, American Bulldogs, and American Bullies are all different breeds that people call Pit Bulls), but these are very powerful, high energy dogs that come from lines of dogs that were made for basically getting into it with other animals from bulls, pigs, raccoons, badgers, other dogs, and even rats. They are said to be pretty good with humans, but anything else is fair game to them. I once saw a video of a Pit Bull attacking a horse. A horse!! The dog had the horse in its mouth just holding it there, and people had to force the Pit Bull to let go. I still believe it is the owner's responsibility for their dogs, but I think that owners need to be especially careful with working dogs bred to basically attack other animals. At least the Pit Bull owner should have had a muzzle for his dog.
One of the main problems, is that pitbulls tend to "attract" people with bad attitudes. Im in australia where american pitbulls are a banned dog, although i own a puppy american pitbull i know how to handle them. Unfotunantly most people who own these dogs are not very bright individuals. Besides, this the pitbull is a fantastic dog.
Yep, I have an American staffordshire terriers and luckily he definitely is a very submissive dog and shows all the submissive body language when any dog approaches him, and HATES confrontation. He'd rather run than fight LOL and luckily has never been in a fight. I absolutely hate people who own bully breeds and basically train them to fight, even on command at times. I know some bad people in my neighborhood say my dog is "too nice" just because he's a bully breed and loves everyone, including other doggos. He's a rare one for sure, not saying all bully breeds are to be trusted, because I'm sure the bad outweighs the good. But I'm glad I got one of the good ones at least.
I live in Ontario Canada, Pit Bulls are a banned breed and I still see them around occasionally. I avoid them, they are not to be trusted because they are easily aggressive.
Yeah I agree, exept for one thing: I am against Pitbull ownership and breeding. Why? Because around 70% of all deadly dog attacks on humans (yes, humans, not on other dogs) are by Pittbulls. And almost all of those deadly attacks are by dogs known to the victim (family dogs or friends' dogs). The percentage is even higher (close to 90%) when it comes to deadly attacks on other animals. Out of around 190 registered dog breeds, one breed is responsible for all of that. If anyone argues that Pittbulls are "great family pets", just look at those stats and think again.
@@juliajuliax Actually that is a false statistic. When local councils and government label a dog as a "pitbull" in fact hardly any of those dogs are actually pitbulls. Because to find a real American Pitbull Terrier is actually very rare. Those dogs are mixed breed mutts and staffies, and they get mislabeld as a pitbull. Those dog attacks are mosty OTHER BREEDS such as staffies. I have seen many videos on youtube with the title "pitbull attacks such and such" and i saw the dog and i an like what!?? Thats not a f pitbull mate. Not every f dog is a pitbull.
What a shitty place to walk your dog. Go out into the woods instead of messing around on overcrowded areas where trouble is all you will get. Btw your hands will need stitches soon grabbing the collar way too often
Roxie looks like Canela Its so cute! I also love how when the first attack happened Canela stood up for Him and the pups also did. The second attack was more Mouthy the pittie obviously over stepped Ronins boundries and had to learn the hard way I also love the recall they have its immediate and its well understood
Question, Were you not fearful of the Pit doing more damage, or clamping down on Ronin and not releasing? Plus did you seriously believe that the Pit would not go after Ronin again?
it really can be a toss up-50/50 with the breed. they may try to start a fight and after being corrected back down, accepting they won’t win. others are like the one in the video, who poke and prod until they get the fight they want.
Too risky going to these parks. You might control (to a certain extent) YOUR dog, but you can’t control the other dog and owner’s behaviours and once a fight breaks out there is no guarantee there won’t be injuries to dogs and/or owners trying to break it up. Not fair to the dogs to have them challenged continually.
Why is everyone praising this guy?? He said it himself that his dog gets attacked “all the time” and then bring him again like its nothing!! Even if it wasnt his dogs fault why bring them in the first place? If you have this many dogs you should have a big enough backyard + walking them regularly that could make up for this and is so much safer🙄. And if you dont have time for walks why do you have this many dogs!?!? This dog is going to get attacked by the wrong one and it wont end up good because obviously he does not care what happens and continues to let it happen.
I don’t think it’s the exercise he cares about. It’s beneficial for a dog’s mental and physical health to interact and play with other dogs outside of their family/pack members, it helps them behave better and interact better with other dogs when they meet them
Respect for you guys staying calm, screaming and panic would have made this situation 100 times worse.. dogs read your energy, and both guys being calm stopped this being much worse .. have had similar experiences with my Alaskan malamute being targeted, so calmness proved to work for me too.
This fella making the video did everything wrong. Dog is not fixed and he knows that gets it “attacked all the time “ but still takes it to the dog park. His dog jumps the fence, obviously scaring and crowding other dogs on leash, thinks it’s funny. Says the other dog is acting wrong by staying close to its owner, well yea, it’s protecting its owner from your out of control dog. Never let your dog crowd dogs on leash. Owners like him are exactly why I don’t go to dog parks. And he has the audacity to act like he is teaching others about dog training. He did everything wrong
I’ve seen some of your other videos and it seems like your dogs are the ones to bite first. All dogs do this when they enter an environment they figure out where they stand by body posturing and sometimes fighting! (I’m not saying they should be fighting every time)
terrible dog owners.....baffles my mind that after the first confrontation both dog owners just leave the dogs free of leash so they can go and fight each other again.
My oldest pit (May his soul rest in peace) was a very submissive boy. He was socialized and taught from a very very young age to not challenge other dogs and to leave them alone. He was the absolute best boy, but sadly cancer stole him from me at 14 and a half years old. This dog shows potential, but the owner needs to begin correcting the pit when he acts up or it can end up very serious for him and the pitty.
To be honest your Ronan dog, is way 2 aggressive for a dog park, off leash. He does not listen to you when he bites another dog and he keep biting. So to be honest, this is not a good job and your dog should not be offleash...i dont understand why people are positive about that.
When a dog is trying to grab your throat, that's probably not the time to turn around and check what your owner wants. I thought Ronin was just protecting himself and he certainly didn't start it. Well balanced dogs can size each other up without it turning nasty. Ronin seems like a pretty laid back dog to me. No pushover though. Some jostling for positions is only to be expected.
You never slap a dog in the face. I've trained and been around my dogs and others. Slapping in the face is abuse and training a dog to be unpredictable.
You made lots of mistakes here, 1. Dog park, 2. Riling up the pit so it gets jealousy in the pack, 3. Giving a command you cannot enforce (sit 3+ times), 4. presenting food to potentially possessive dogs, 5. Professing to know what you are doing, when there is much learning to be done.
@@BoostedS650 It sounds as though he knows a number of other users in that dog park. Obviously you can never know for sure who is going to turn up on any given day but if the park is in a decent area then the chances of a serious confrontation are pretty small. Many dogs behave very differently on leads than they do while off leash.
@@PeteH0121 Point proven. Every real dog expert knows you never take your dog to a dog park. Recipe for disaster. This bozo decided to take a bevy of dogs including two notorious aggressive dogs. Amateur. You need to watch more dog videos of dogs just being walked and crossing paths at the wrong time, my friend
Great videos on describing behaviors and what to do and what not. The only critique I have is strengthening your recall under those for those conditions would greatly help. Good content though, thank you.
Congrats, your mal is only learning to be a better fighter. I doubt you can bring him into dog parks anymore when he's older without serious consequences.
The problem is what if the breed was not a Malinois? What if it was a poodle, pug or cocker spaniel? The dog could easily be killed by a confrontational pit. I just don’t think the breed should be in a dog park. Luckily, both owners handled it well.
The breed isn’t the problem. A GSD could kill a small dog, any large breed could. It’s the fact the pit wasn’t socialized or trained enough, it was picking fights it shouldn’t have which is bad! Dudes like him who don’t work with their pitbulls put a bad name on the breed..they can be such patient and loving dogs when actually properly cared for (trained and socialized)
“Petting encourages the fearful behaviour” it’s been proven that you can’t reinforce an emotion, and comforting a scared dog doesn’t make them more likely to be scared.
He's used to posturing. Most people with multiple dogs get firsthand experience with group dynamics. It seemed clear that's what he was referring to, in an effort to make light of his dog having been provoked by the Mal.
@@syzygyfarm I see, I commented because he also said "shes skittish, scared of anything" and I really prefer people looking inward to what they could do differently, instead of blaming a creature that needs their guidance and will never have deeper reasoning than a 2.5 year old human. Note: I currently have 2 intact males and a female and I thought it odd that he just shrugged it off.
Your dog obviously does not get along with any pitbull. Ronin jumped the fence first to size up the pitbull. The fact he jumped the fence shows you don’t have full control of him. The warning sign was at that moment.
