Razor was a truly well thought out robot. Apart from the obvious mega weapon it had amazingly low ground clearance at the front and the wheels right at the back were very cunning because they maintain contact with the ground even if the front is lifted up. The lack wheel contact to the ground being the downfall of most razor victims who found themselves unable to manoeuvre away while being crushed or pushed.
This is why Razer were so successful. They knew Terrorhurtz had the potential to give them a battering and it might only need one hit with their power so they grab hold and don't let go. I remember a battle with 13 Black where they did the same. No unnecessary risks.
The thing Razer had above other bots, for me, was that it was such a terror weapon. It wasn't going to flip you, it wasn't going to put you in the pit, it wasn't going to hammer at your plating, it was going to slowly and methodically rip through sections of your robot down to the chassis. Hypnodisc had a similar thing going, but it wasn't quite as pretty. :) The driving is to tight, too.. in the blink of an eye it's got the other bot, and that's not a fast claw.
One of the best things of this match was that however scared Terror was of Razer, the razer team were more scared of Terrorhurtz, which was shown clearly in their tactics. Straight into the pit, no messing about.
A good reason terrorhurtz lost is that they didnt realize their axe force held much momentum. While razer penetrates terrorhurtz with its slow and painful pincer. It sort of formed a fixed axis. Where the enemy could spin around but could not get out. The spamming of the terrorhurtz axe while it was being crushed made it spin around in the wrong direction. You can see as the axe swings downward. The whole machine moves when it was partially suspended when razer pulled out the pincer.
While I'm personally fully prepared for the hate, I personally think Razer is the strongest bot ever conceived. His method of slowly crushing his victims until they either cry for mercy or are mercilessly dispatched is truly genius, not to mention his low profile makes him hard to hit, much less flip over in any way. However, the day a robot taller than Razer appears on the other side of that arena? Now THAT'LL be a clash of the titans.
Terrorhurtz caught my imagination in this series. An awesome powerhouse of a bot, a very imaginative design too. Musta been hell for the Arena maintainers to keep picking the dents out of the floor after Terrorhurtz had been fighting :P Is it me or does the axe seem to get more and more desperate in its thrashing as the fight goes on?
I met John Reid when I was 13 or so; we were in the car park outside the building just before series four and I recognised him, so he went back to the boot of his car and there was Killerhurtz, fresh from Battlebots with some damage on the front from the killsaws. He was a great guy :)
@KnuxMaster Yeah, the thing is that if anyone tries to attack them, they run straight into the beak 'cause Razer is so well driven. Also the ground clearence at the front seems to be in the negatives, so they don't really need to think about armour.
I totally agree, but unfortunately the arena was destroyed a few years ago after having being used by an american company. It was demolished to make way for an RAF base. Very sad, what an iconic place it was, important to so many people!!!
@Deeya If they did that with Razor being Force = Pressure divided by Area the beak would be a lot weaker and not penetrate as easily. They would have to increase their hydraulic pressure by a huge amount! It just isnt going to happen over a much larger area such as a scythe blade.
@JackRabbitSlim terrorhurtz is currently one of 3 bots to win the uk championships twice with chaos2 and iron awe 5. its axe is the most destructive weapon still active in the uk
That's why a battle between Hypnodisc and Razer never came to fruition: both were certain that one side would completely annihilate the other, Hypnodisc being the closest thing Robot Wars ever had to Son of Whyachi weapons-wise.
Well, in series 7 of Robot wars, Terrorhurtz were seeded 3, but they were disqualified in the first round of Heat B against Killerkat, Jackson Wallop, and Gyrobot.
Probably because of the overall increase of quality in the machines. But in this particular fight they were scared of Terrorhurtz; they said themselves in their report that it was too dangerous to fight properly which is why they pitted them quickly.
Bullcrap happened. I'm not a Razer fanboy, in fact that match was the first of Robot Wars I ever saw (coming from Battlebots), and I immediately dropped the series going back to watching my spinbots (LONG LIVE ZIGGO AND HAZARD). It wasn't until much later that I came back to this series (and glad for it). But no, Tornado's move, while technically legal, was terrible sportsmanship and bad form. And even the judges say that that decision was a mistake.
Everybody who was a fan of Robot Wars loves Razer, but realistically, most any of the popular Battlebots would have been able to give him a very good run. Son of Whyachi or Nightmare would have taken him apart by nut and bolt.
That's actually kind of uncertain, one time is a definite yes, but one seemed to just be Razer knocking itself out. If Razer got its teeth into the kitty, who knows what would happen. But yeah, I would say that Pussycat is the only one with a definitive good-sported proper win on Razer. I don't count Tornado because, legal or not, that was bad form from a sportsmanship standpoint.
razer is a super robot, he does not like all the other sleaze, he is a monster that creeps up from behind and bites sting deep in the back =)) he is the best!
People did. There was a vote and that was the winning fight. It never happened because the teams realized that the fight would basically completely destroy both robots, and they didn't want that to happen. The fight that does need to happen is Razer and Hypnodisk versus two of the House Robots.
Oh, the nostalgia. This show NEEDS to come back. I can't see why it hasn't already to be honest... You'd need the old robots back though. The house robots should return and most of the all stars, you know Hypnodisk, Chaos 2, Behemoth - those sort of robots. Oh, and Razer of course!
@@bonucci74 after a decade, all good thanks - hope the same goes for you. Would you believe it, I just snuck in the show at the end of the run as part of team Hobgoblin! Wouldn't have thought it when I wrote that comment all those years ago!
I think the flipping them over ones would kill razer easy sauce but they always have very weak operators..whio can never land the life when they put it under razer...they always hit it 2 early or much 2 late
Don't get me wrong, I love razer and think it's the coolest robot in Robot Wars, but I honestly think that Razer wouldn't stand a chance against Hypno Disc. Razer would not be able to pierce through Hypno's armour, and Hypno would probably tear off the wheels and maybe some of the metal plating.
I'm not so sure about Tornado. In Extreme 2, Tornado made fairly quick work of Terrorhurtz in the Challenge Belt episode. Tornado's main advantage was how modular it was - it had an answer for pretty much every encounter (including answers that were cheating)
The only thing this over-rated piece of crap ever fought had, at least, one centimeter clearance off the ground. His *true* advantage is that fucking wedge of is. Make one even lower and sleeker, all around your bot and he wouldn't even be able to use that. Finally, I'd love to see him go up against Ziggo. I never saw him fight against ANY full-body spinning bot either. I suspect bribing.
ohargreaves That thing barely went 100 RPM, had a gap of about two inches above the floor and straight sides. The teeth were barely an inches long and none of them were close enough to ground level. Hardly a spinning bot. Fuck off.
ohargreaves Yeah, bots he fought were fucking bricks with a clearance probably just as worst as him; pretty easy under such circumstances. If Frizbee was bad, those he fought were just fucking terrible. Nothing commendable here. Less than it's crushing jaw, it's true advantage remains its low clearance; best that and this bot becomes useless. Too bad no one got the fucking hint. So yes, fuck off.
+Derpychicken8 I saw Warhead, and I think it kinda sucked compared to Razer... The spinning blade was practically worthless. And it was so bulky that it was hard to control, and other bots tore through it like tissue paper. I think in the 2015 championships it was taken out in the first or second round. Razer was better in my opinion.
but warhead got decapitated by minotaur lol his disc isnt that good, it actually seems to work against him sometimes like when biteforce just caught the disk from under and spun and flipped warhead
Any robot with a hammer or an axe is usually shit, it just does not have the power to damage other robots, Razer's weapon is a slow pneumatic crushing beak which penetrates surfaces far more easily than one swing of a shitty axe ever could.
@MasterofMayhem1394 Their robot was built with all offense in mind, no defense, so they assumed the enemy would easily destroy them. how wrong they were and how happy they must have been!
The depressing thing is (for me at least since I liked Terrorhurtz more than Razer) that if Terrorhurtz had landed even one axe blow on Razer's crushing arm then the hydraulic system would have likely ruptured and rendered it useless the same way it did in the first All-Stars tournament when one of the Gemini twins managed to break Razer's weapon.
I doubt it. Back then Razer wasn't upgraded yet; in this battle, he is. When they upped the weight limit Ian had Razer redesigned to ratchet up his speed, maneuverability and crushing force. That's why he kinda sucked in earlier seasons and became such a beast in later ones. There's no way he could be out-maneuvered, Ian's just too good an operator. Terrorhurtz never had a chance.
+Verosity Gaming i think that the spinning blades of icewave or tombstone would be the best bet to stop it. tough it was a sturdy bot as it was, in battlebots the limit is 250 pounds so it might go trough some upgrades to get even more deadly
as powerful as razer's beak is, it looks kinda blunt. if it were me i'd make the entire underside of its beak-arm into a blade (scythe), that way it'll also slice through opponents instead of just puncturing them. and there's also the added tearing damage whenever the opponent tries to back away or when i drag them away.
Part of what went into Razer's design was to force holes wider. The tip is sharpened to make the initial incision, but the wider parts of the crushing beak make much larger holes - far larger than what the House Robots would have been capable of when Razer first appeared on our screens back in Series 2. In other areas, blunt edges can actually be more effective. After Series 3, Hypnodisc actually switched to wider, blunt blades on their flywheel which had a tendency to dig into armour and tear off whole sheets rather than cut gashes through them. Compare, say, the damage Hypnodisc was able to do against Steg-O-Saw-Us in the Series 3 Grand Final Eliminator with what they did to Bigger Brother two series later and you might see what I mean. The same principle also works for swinging weapons. Terrorhurtz' blade was generally far more effective than that of Killerhurtz because a weighty, blunt weapon is less likely to get stuck (as happened to Killerhurtz frequently), can create serious dents in the armour, and cause internal damage through shaking wiring or gears loose.
