Another great video. I agree both are good and comparable when they are running correctly. For those of us that can take full advantage of the 250kW charging that Superchargers offers, it better for quick 5-10 minute stops on trips. The best I've ever gotten on a CCS charger was 203kW at a 540A EVGO in Bellingham, WA with the average EA peaking out 185kW. The drawback is it's pricey here in Canada with per minute billing above 180kW with prices around $1.65/minute depending on the location. Do I recommend getting a CCS adapter, absolutely? More charging options is always better. Before the end of May, I will be going on a road trip to Calgary using Chevron's 'On the Run' EV chargers on the way there on Hwy #1. I will be returning via Hwy #3 so there are only a few BC Hydro 50kW CCS chargers along the way. I'm so glad Tesla has added several Superchargers on that route allowing Tesla owners to travel freely in beautiful southern BC. Chevron is the only other player I know of that is install fast DC chargers along that route some time this year, likely in the fall 2023. Thanks for sharing your charging experience.
Agree. Faster charging speeds at Superchargers do add up and are expensive so it’s always nice to have other options. Can’t wait to watch videos from your road trip!
Interesting comparison. Did the battery pre-condition prior to the Telsa session? That could explain the higher initial charge rate. Regardless, it didn't make much difference in the end. Presumably, it would be more significant on a 250kW capable car, or in colder temperatures. I sure wish you could manually pre-condition the battery. I use CCS quite often in the winter and most of the time I'm getting less than 40kW into the battery. I do drive in extreme conditions. -35C at times.
The battery was preconditioned for both sessions. I also wish the battery would have a manual preconditioning setting, but until that happens my trick is to navigate to the nearest Supercharger (if there is one nearby) while I am driving to the CCS charging location. At least this will allow you to get a bit more heat into the battery. I will have to try the same test with a Model 3 or Y LR and see if there is any difference there.
@@LeftCoastEV Sadly I don't have that option as there are no superchargers near the CCS station I need to use. I suppose I could just select one and have it constantly re-route. That would be better than nothing. I honestly never thought to try that. It's about 75km from the nearest supercharger.
It should start preconditioning at 75km from what I experienced being on road trips. Plus it will do it more aggressively in colder temperatures. Ty it out and let me know if it worked!
@@LeftCoastEV Yes this is true. I've seen it start to pre-heat an hour and a half prior when it's really cold out. This is only a 50kW CCS charger, so I may have to wait until next fall to test this out. The battery temp from just driving is probably sufficient to pull 50kW now. I'll have to stop there just to check now. 😁
Yeah in winter it will precondition no problem. In BC we don’t get very cold weather, but if I am on a road trip I can see it start up really early. Test it out and let’s see if charging improves but yes you are right in this weather just driving is enough to heat the battery and to max out the speed of a 50kW charger.
I didn't realize Tesla's charge curve drops so fast... it surprised me on my ioniq5 that is can be above 100kW past 80% and only drops to ~50-60 at 90% or so.. I wish charge curves were included in the vehicle apps or the quick guide... very handy for new owners to know.
Indeed it does. It starts off really high, but the sustained speeds drop quickly. If I ever get to test other cars I will definitely include charging curves in all my reviews. Information like this can give new owners insight on how to charge their vehicles and not camp at chargers if speeds become slow. Thanks for your info about the Ioniq 5. I heard it has a great charge curve.
Yes and no. If you are talking about pure charging speed then yes, it is a bit slower. But you also have to keep in mind that it has a smaller battery so the charge time from 10 to 80 will not be drastically different due to capacity.
