Tesla was waiting for me to pick up my ordered Y but I cancelled and bought a Used 2016 90D. No regrets. 4 yr/50 mile warranty via Tesla, free supercharging, and free connectivity. 👍🏻🚀
@@antigl3966 yup. Doors are fine. Not toally aligned with the front but "within spec". I have had some issues but I have 2 years of the full warranty left. So it hasn't been too bad... I would do it again. Car is still worth more now than I paid for it almost 2 years ago .. crazy times.
We have 40 K km on out MX, built in Apr 2017. We did brakes but had the rotors turned last year with pad replacement. I think it is the salt causing the brakes to seize rather than my wife's heavy foot and I have learned how to remove the calipers and lubricate the contact points to prevent that issue from happening again. We have FSD functioning nicely with MCU 1. The biggest issue is the 2-3 minute lag time to load a destination. We now travel with our Model Y which is amazingly snappy so she won't allow the $3300 for the MCU 2 as it doesn't bother her and she is the principle driver. We had an issue with the a/c this year that was covered by warranty. Other than that and the brakes and front lt. bushing and half shaft being replaced under warranty for acceleration vibration that is now fixed it is still a great vehicle and we will be keeping it until the cyber truck shows up and then may pass it down to 1 of our kids (One already got a great deal on our M3) Keep up the great videos, I really enjoy our parallel paths in our Tesla journey
Hi, Ray, I appreciate the comment as always. It is freaky how our experiences parallel one another. We're thinking about passing down our Model 3 to our kids too. They don't know that yet, but I think it's safe to say that they don't watch my RU-vid channel, so I can spill the beans here. Haha. Cheers.
Great review! Just ordered a model S 2021 and looking into a used model X as well. I test drove the model Y but as you said definitely not as much room.
I actually have both. A 2017 model x 75D and LR model y. Love both. Upgraded to mcu2 recently and if I could choose one it would be the x. The y is a better drive with the permanent magnetic motors whereas the x has induction motors. But the x just has more fun features like auto close/open doors and they're soft close!!! Plus the driving experience is amazing in the x with the windshield. Really feels like a spaceship. The y is great but the crossbar above the drivers head does feel like it limits yr view. Plus I didnt realize I'd love the hud of the x as much as I do. But I do love the 3/y set up as well.
A friend of mine, who also has a 2017 Model X, were talking about this not so long ago, and we both agree that there is just something special about the X.
@@ElectricCanuck no car is perfect. I did cosmetic upgrades like chrome delete, power coated the 20s to satin black and wood trim is now matte carbon fiber and it looks like a stealthy beast. If I had the money I would get the raven models but I find more value getting a pre raven x and a model y.
Thank you for your video, I have been looking for more information about entertainment options, your MCU 1 vs 2 breakdown was key. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into this video...Cheers!
You didn't mention that the all-aluminum body on the Models X and S means there will never be any rust-out. It was one of the selling points when I bought my Dec 2016 90D. I've done the MCU2 + AP3 hardware upgrades (available from Oct 2016 onward). Definitely worth it. Also, my free Supercharging feature is tied to the car itself, rather than to me as the 1st owner (which was a change made to that program in...March? 2017, so it is transferrable upon resale.
Thanks, Anna...much safer with a 2019. It should have MCU2 and HW3 already. Appreciate the view! I need to get caught up on your videos, will do that soon. Cheers.
I bought a mid 2017 MX about 9 months ago and it needed tons more work. It was all under warranty though. Control arms, door sensors, front door internals completely replaced. MCU 2 and HW3 made it a brand new driving experience though.
if you buy a Model X, try to avoid any with VIN ending less than 50,000 units. That was an important point in the manufacture of it, where they completely changed several things about it. The model Y, same thing, preferably do not buy anything below 40,000 VIN units. The model Y is way more efficient than the Model X, is smaller, lighter, no gull wing doors, which are cool, but can be problematic in some situations. You can sleep in both of them. You can put a roof rack on the model Y and you can tow with both, as well. At first I wanted a Model X and have driven them often, but settled on a used Model S until the Model Y was well into its production phase where the bugs were worked out. That is the car I have now (model Y) and it is I think the perfect all around car for anyone who wants full self driving capability, sportiness, utility of storage and hauling and is not primarily luxury oriented.
Thanks for the review. I would have liked the number for energy consumption and range. You did answer 90% of the questions I was needing to be answered.
Hi, thank you. Range was reduced from 382km to ~363 over 3 years and consumption (efficiency) was as good 3 years later as it was when it was new. I typically averaged ~200 wh/km in spring, summer, and fall, and ~280 wh/km in winter. I hope this helps.
Thank you SO Much for the Great Info. I am looking at a 2016 Tesla Model X 75D (I know its Older) but If I can get it at the right price. that's what I am hoping for.
Awesome! Best wishes, Frank. 👍 Most 2016 Model Xs have AP1, also know as the Mobileye system. An easy way to tell is that there aren’t any side cameras. I had a 2016 loaner Model X a few weeks ago. The Mobileye system was ahead of its time. Just know that the Autopilot system can’t be upgraded. Cheers.
Hey Tesla Canuck, thank your for this good review and the tips regarding the hardware version! I think me and my family will favor the Model X over a new Y. Greetings from Austria, Europe.
As the guy who bought his Model X at the same time as @teslacanuck I can vouch for everything he's said here. As for the brakes, I'm at 110k km and still have 50% pads left. I think driving style is a wildcard factor on that aspect of the car. Also MCU2 upgrade is worth every penny!!!
Thanks for posting this. We have a 2021 Y and really enjoy it. But it’s too tight for my family to ride in back, so we’re going to add a 2018 MX 100D soon. This video answered a lot of my questions. Although the wireless charging in the Y had spoiled me, so I’m looking for charging options with the X
I’m waiting for refresh upgrade for X or S. The range and interior needs a big upgrade. I just saw the new Lucid interior and oof Tesla needs to up their game.
Agree on the refresh but at the prices Lucid is quoting (and who know what actuals will be ok nce production starts), not really in Tesla's ballpark. More like Taycan territory, very few will afford.
Enjoyed your honest assessment, the good, bad, and ugly. Very helpful as I have a 2018 Model 3, but want a car that seats and rides higher, as I go hiking/biking at state parks which are not always nicely paved. The Model Y was a thought, but also has the pull and tug door handles which I find cumbersome. So, why not get Model X comfort and luxury, for practically the same price as a new Model Y.
Definitely a consideration. Now that I have a Model Y (traded in the Model 3), I can tell you that the Model X is quite bigger. For people who do a lot of hiking, biking and other outdoor adventures you can't beat the size of the Model X. Also great if you have kids that do sports.
@@ElectricCanuck Hi, another clarification I am confused about. If I should buy a 2017 M-X with FSD and 2.0 hardware, because it has FSD, doesn't that automatically qualify the owner for 3.0 hardware to be installed. I enjoy my Sentry Mode and Dashcam which were given as over the air software updates on my 2018 Model 3. So, I thought 2.0 hardware would also be updated? Sounds like it doesn't. I am confused about the difference between MCU and the 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 hardware. I have 3.0 and it's great for stoplight and stopsign braking. Thanks...
As far as I know, if FSD was purchased on a AP2.0 or 2.5 vehicle, it should automatically qualify for the upgrade. Perhaps on a sale it doesn't qualify? It's a great question that maybe only Tesla can answer. With an older Model X, an upgrade to MCU2 is an absolute requirement in my opinion.
I have the same issue with the front doors. They don't open correctly most of the time. In winter I constantly get freezing windows. Terrible experience for an expensive car.
I looked at two used Model Xs, one had the 1st gen AP, meaning could never be upgraded to FSD. The second one had AP2.0, and had panel gap problem and a small leakage from one of the falcon wing doors which Tesla said they would take care of before delivery. I was thinking what were the options out there within a year's time frame. I found Rivian R1S for $70,000 with 316 miles per charge, which closely matched the price of the second Model X I test-drove two months ago. Plus, the Rivian would be good for the $7,500 (or potentially new $12,500) tax credit (PLUS) California's $2,500 tax rebate. I just cannot resist to wait and buy the brand new EV for me and my wife. Sorry Elon. I own your company's stock, but I really find more wisdom in this case to buy a brand new EV with great incentive. Everyone's situation is different, buy accordingly. May be I will be a customer of Tesla in the future. God bless everyone and please help to save our only Earth and Mother Nature.
Very useful review!😃 Me and my girlfriend are thinking about buying a used model x this year, and I’m just wondering. Have you ever had an issue with either the falcon doors or the front doors when it’s quite windy? Saw you where in Canada and we live in Norway, and if I’m not all wrong we have some similar whether and can have quite some windy days. Have you had any issues with the doors caused by wind?
Not sure what you consider satellite radio, but my 2014 Model S came with Slacker radio, and I have never paid a dime for it. People tell me it's like Spotify, and you pay for that.
Great review ! I’m from southern Ontario . Only monetary repair outside of warranty for me was , back trunk lid, left side support (common issue) ,and I was surprised warranty did not cover .
Lifetime real world average is 204 wh/km which is, I think 328 wh/mi. Last time I was at an SC (before Covid) my speed of charge topped out at 130 kW. I don't think the 2017 will get the recent 225 kW bump.
Real world range depends on the season. Rated range was 381 kms 237 miles when brand new. In the summer, I have squeezed 415 kms out the Model X. Winter is another story if sub zero. At 0 degrees Celsius, 32 Fahrenheit, I can still squeeze rated range if I slow down and pre condition the battery before leaving home. Individual results will vary widely based on driving habits.
@@ElectricCanuck how do you squeeze 415km it’s almost a 90D even 100D range, I have a 75D and the range really sucky, how do you drive to get those range?
Great video, how many miles are you getting nowadays? I'm in the market for a used MX and I've seen some good deals on a 16MX but I know I'll need to consider I'll need a new MCU2, maybe a new battery. Thx.
Hi, Les, thank you for your kind comment. 🙂 I ended up trading in my MX for a Y last year. In a way, I do have some regrets. The Y is fantastic, but there is something magical about the X. For 2016 MX check that it has Autopilot 2 or better. Many '16 MXs were sold with the Mobileye system and not Tesla's AP hardware. Cheers.
@@ElectricCanuck *Update, so I ended up getting a 2021 Model Y, with 19K miles on it. It’s excellent and we got a steal of a deal for a Subaru car dealership that had 8 on the lot of various prices and configurations. Thx for your input, Cheers!
Nice review! One question that no one seems to answer up front though. Maybe someone has in earlier comments though. How is the awd on snow or ice? Do you have any experience in these conditions? Just wondering.
I live in Canada, so lots of experience in snow and ice. The Model X has excellent and predictable performance on snow and ice. I do recommend winter tires. Cheers.
Sorry if I missed it but what do you do for winter tires? I have also heard that the X really goes through tires because of the weight. Any thoughts or issues? Thx.
I bought a set of winter tires and rims from Tesla. shop.tesla.com/product/model-x-19_-cyclone-wheel-and-winter-tire-package. I’ve got almost 80,000 kms (50,000 miles) roughly half and half on each. I’ll need new tires next summer/winter. Yes, the X is heavy and uses rubber faster. Hope this helps. Cheers.
@@verbimaarten for my situation I don't need the super charger network. My daily commute isn't that long and if I wanted to drive across Canada there is a network of high powered chargers that runs from coast to coast. For me it's all about value. I'm not going to buy a Mercedes if a Volkswagen will do just fine. I am just weighting my options vs my needs.
Tesla people I find it crazy that our day when it come to Tesla people call a 2016 or 2017. Old car we are only in 2020 would you say the same for a BMW 5 that is 3 years old or and Mercedes GLC that’s 3 years to call it Old car, Tesla is so much advance the. Other car and the design still goes with this time even in 2022 the model X will still look modern pls don’t call it a old car anymore 😂🤣
Coincidently, my 2017 MX 75D has about 85,000 kms and I also had to replace the front brakes at Tesla. However, it cost me around $1400 so now I'm thinking I paid too much. I have the 7 seater with tan interior and tow package with FSD but did not pay for MCU2 upgrade. I do notice now squeaky noise in the front suspension, I believe, when going over big speed bumps. Wondering if you have the same experience.
Hi, Mike, thanks for the comment! 😀 Strange that your price was different. 🤔 We don't have any squeaking, but from your description, it might be your upper control arm(s). Fairly common with early Tesla vehicles.
@@ElectricCanuck Already had those replaced under warranty. Symptom was much worse in that case where there was a lot of squeaky noise when steering at low speed. Also had a failed rear motor replaced under warranty as well, BTW.
I was at the service centre couple months back, and being told the MCU upgrade program is not available in Canada yet. Is the radio tuner still available after the upgrade ? Thanks for the video.
If you want both HW3 and MCU2 then you want a Model X built in Q2 of 2019 or later. Q3 to be on the safe side. This is when HW3 started shipping from the factory on the X. MCU2 has been available on the X since about December of 2018. I hope this helps.
Hi, Ed, I just looked it up to be certain. July 2017 build MX 75D had 235 miles range/381 kilometers. Perhaps the seller is giving you the current range including battery degradation. That would sound about right for typical degradation. Hope this helps. Cheers.
In the summer you can easily achieve the rated range of 383km on a charge or better. On the coldest day in the winter, -30⁰C expect to lose 40% (more if you don't precondition the battery while plugged in. Hope this helps. Cheers.
Great question! I find the Model X seats more comfortable, but my wife and kids disagree...they prefer the Model 3 seats on a long trip. I know that's kind of inconclusive, lol. Hope it helps. 😎
If you have a young family and active in sports, the space in the Model X is definitely attractive. The good thing about the 2017 is that the MCU can be upgraded, and so can the FSD hardware to “FSD3”. Our 2017 Model X is like new, tech-wise. If size isn’t a consideration, and you don’t mind being lower to the ground, I think a new Model 3 would be a better value, plus you’ll have warranty.
@@ElectricCanuck thank you for the reply, I am in Australia and have booked a 2021 model 3 which I will be getting in Early January, but at the moment I got a offer from the local Tesla dealer for a model X 2017 with Upgraded MCU and FSD hardware can be upgraded when the facility will be available in Australia..It’s done 35,000 kms and the price I am getting the 2017 Model X 75D is the same price as the new model 3 with FSD. Still confused as this is a new zone for me as all my past cars were ICE. What do you recommend for the price wise and finally it’s for my Mrs !!
This all sounds great, but what would happen when the warranty ends? How much work have you had done under the warranty. I'd like to buy a 2nd hand model s or x but worried about the high maintenance costs as I have heard about the reliability issues and high cost of parts with tesla. If you buy used from tesla you only get a little over a years warranty on the car, except for drive train and battery which is 4 years cover.
It’s definitely a consideration, no doubt. Our Model X was pretty solid. Under warranty, they fixed a vibration in the front suspension, and that’s it. Individual results do vary though. Cheers.
The mfg date is located on the left side of the B pillar when the driver door is open. To see which MCU, in the software menu item, there is a blue highlighted "more information" link. Click that link. If it says Intel Atom, then it is MCU 2. Another easier way to tell is to see if Netflix is there under entertainment options. If Netflix is there, it is MCU 2. Hope this helps. Cheers.
@@ElectricCanuck The Tesla rep won't get me the information. I can't even see the car until I pay a $500 non refundable deposit . They about to lose me as a customer.. I'll get the Volvo
Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that. That's not right. You need to know what you're buying before putting down a non refundable deposit. I agree this is not acceptable.
I know why your wife wore out breaks, she’s trying to stop her almost 6000 pound car with no regenerative braking. If that batteries not warm, the regenerative braking doesn’t work and she’s having to use the them. So cut her a break!