But other companies will make humanoid robot A.I that looks like human, just like video game " Detroit become human" don't think only Tesla make this bot
Wow. Imagine where they will be in a few years. This is all about the AI and computational hardware they have developed, the mechanicals are not as important. The potential value of this is soooooooooooo much greater than the vehicle side of things.
Do you think that in 2035 with the advent of AI (artificial general intelligence) and ASI (artificial super intelligence) they will put universal basic income!? a subsidy! there will be free will!? an era of abundance will begin!? the robot's intellectual capabilities have already surpassed the average human and before 2035 there is talk of it surpassing that of any human and then again that of any human combined! regarding both body and mind! answer me please...
Right because he’s warnings are just to scare people and to provide him a platform where more people invest in his companies under the guise of saving the world, but really what he’s interested in is money he doesn’t give a shit about the world!
As a mere casual observer of the evolution of robots, I can finally say, I'm impressed. This Tesla Gen2 robot with hands and fingers that have the dexterity of humans is way impressive. Also, the fact that they are self learning...Elon, staying ahead of the curve.
Self learning has yet to be demonstrated. Compare this to Boston dynamics whose robots can do summersaults through the forest. Not to mention there packer picking robots that can already put amazon employees out of work.
@slackbomb just saying Boston dynamics is already being used in commercial applications. If it can pick up boxes and move them then it can already replace 60% of the workforce.
The major problem will be battery longevity. If I took this on house construction,how much could it accomplish before it would need charging. It's a hassle in the UK just charging hand powered tools ,let alone one of these things. It would be great if it works though and to be honest not too worried about it going rogue , look at the nut jobs around the world we have already with a finger on the nuclear button, they worry me
yeah, I also don't see, that the robot can work nearly 16h a day, more like 6 hours and has to charge 18 hours or work to the charger and does everything slower than a human, because of different reasons. Safety, stiffness, energy consumption, slow A.I. ... I guess, the robot has to get into "school" to learn the rules as well. And every construction set is different. Also, what is the payload of such a robot? And how many hours can the robot move itself and the payload before the need of charging.
What if each 2 hours it need 1 minute to change the exterial battery (for example it has 2 batteries, and each time it exchange 1 and recharge it) ... So it only take 1% of time for exchange battery.
@@vanhsati how long does one battery charge? 4 hours for 1h work? That would mean, you at least need 5 batteries, you have to store these batteries and need to plug them. So somehow the robot needs a place for charging and that place has to have some power-plugs. And additonal batteries would drive the costs up. But with additional energy plugs for any robot work place, you can't easily put a robot where a human was. If the robot could eat "food" ... mmmm, but then you would need toilets ... and so on.
I have been In the robotic world for 20 yrs and excited to see its goods uses for human. With the leap of AI and capability of self learning and developing, Humanoid Is now can functions close to human without specific programming. It s awsome, it will a great great impact our human lives and Tesla is s leader in delivering that.
How can you have "been in the robotic world for 20 years" and believe these things are here to do anything other than strip us of our livelihoods? Are you genuinely autistic..?
Yes, most service jobs will be decimated. All kinds of pool bars can function day and night. Restaurants will cease to exist because this robot will be a home chef so there will be no need to go to a restaurant. Just stay at home and let it cook for you. This robot will be able to do the dishes and the laundry too. So, it's a home robot that decimated businesses.
Yep nobody to spit in your food Drop your food on the floor and put it back on the plate Nobody to use the bathroom without washing there hands to continue to make your food Nobody sick and didn't stay home because they couldn't afford it to contaminate your food What a dream
No more jobs. No more anything, it is really awesome at first glance, but the long-term, not so much. It would be the lower manufacturing and labor jobs to go first, but with improvements, they could replace everyone. No job, no home, no life.
@bran3209 I understand your concern and yes the transition is going to be hard for us and the next 2 generation Third generation from now will be born into this world with robots everywhere doing most of the jobs we do now The question is do you believe the government is just going to watch all of us who would have done these jobs before them just lay in the streets and die because robots now do most jobs There will be a simple base pay for all Americans I know it seems crazy and lazy to you and I times change we know that A new world is coming
Are we looking at the first Mars mission crew 🤔 Would make total sense, design a ship that’ll carry these and it’s a direct swap for humans further down the line. Even when humans get there, these can carry out experiments and research outside, with an operator controlling it from inside, much safer than going out in a suit.
Yes, they will be building the first shelters for humans. Hope they train them to mine quickly. Land them near a canyon and they can start mining and we will be able to shelter in the mine once we get there.
@@IllumTheMessage mining mars & the moon with these bots 🤖 and building habitats is one giant leap for humanity and the first small step towards a type 1 civilisation on the Kardashev scale , humanity needs to start colonising asap it’s to dangerous for us to keep all are 🥚 in one basket 🧺
This can be used by SpaceX to help colonize the moon and other celestial bodies where certain tasks are simply either too dangerous, OR they can be sent on ahead to put up the habitat modules
Like everything in life, there are pros and cons. Canada and many other G7 countries are lacking younger bodies to take care of the over abundance of my (Boomer) generation. We live longer and are posing a major financial risk to our Single payer healthcare system.
Yes, because it's held up by tethers that have been digitally removed poorly. They appear in several frames. Something actually walking unsupported wouldn't look like this
@mervstash3692 you are not up to date on the news, are you? It literally just happened. A worker was grabbed by the shoulder. It penetrated the skin. How can you make such a judgement without doing a SINGLE second of research. Truly inspiring....
Sure cause most seniors are loaded and can afford this... NOT! I am a senior and I would not be able to afford it, nor would I trust or want it. No thank you.
@@JD-Defenders it’s not for you. It will likely be subsidized by insurance. It’s not ready today but it’s coming. Cost will come down, at the moment it is not affordable. A human will be better but I lost my wife to cancer, no kids and I’m 47. I got no one that can help me when I get old.
@@JWG2014 Well I don't either but you make do and you survive. I am actually quite happy as I enjoy living alone. and can still do things for myself. That may change one day. But I still would not trust a robot. NOPE, nada, never... lol.
Once we get groups of Optimuses (Optimi?) working together, what kind of emergent behaviours might occur? As emergent properties are generally not predictable, things could get pretty interesting for the human race in the next couple of decades!
This is all very exciting, IF it's true. Remember the presentation of the self-driving feature that turned out later to be completely preprogrammed in advance? Tesla lies regularly about where they currently are all the time. I'll believe this when they debut it to the public and let them try it out.
Yeah the help around the house and elsewhere without having to adapt the environment to fit robot is a big seller. But I need to train one to farm it may quit😂
I'm surprised they haven't improved the walking. The problem seems to be the one axis they give it, but the hip is stiff. The human hip has several axis and the ability to stretch. I'll be interested to see what gen 3 looks like.
its the human feet/soles that make it possible to keep such good balance and a smooth walk ig. its a whole different story with stiff and flat plates as feet. the new gen looks way better tho, so probably they will get there evetually
we have it all, God gave us the perfect bodies.. why are people not worshipping God in Heaven for creating the body and all its capabilities, but they worship their own creations aka robots that desperately try to copy God's mastery!
it's clear the focus has been wholly focused on the upper half of the body. Brain, hands and gestures and those are the most important if you ask me. I bet once they hit a certain point in the development of the upper body, they will then shift to movement and the posture which would take a lot less time to learn since by then the machine learning capability of the robot will be at a level where such tasks will just be too normal for it to learn.
The completeness with which you completely disregard the inherent machine learning strengths of the Optimus over what BD is doing makes you sound extremely biased.
@@PeteOliva I don't think the op is wrong in saying that the mobility of the BD robot is better. The Optimus walks like a 90 year old with barely functional spine where the BD is like a future parkour athlete. So saying he is biased is a bit of an overstatement. Still, ML and hand dexterity is where the magic happens for sure. Having advanced hand dexterity gives the Optimus the chance to do so many things/tasks that will contribute to its learning journey much more than mobility would and that's what really matters. Learning how to express hand gestures, do handicrafts and physical labour, learning how to write and draw. The possibilities are literally infinite. I believe that's why Tesla focused on the hands and brain first. Mobility comes after since not only would it be easier to learn when the Optimus's brain is more developed but also since movement will require a lot more energy and thus more breakthroughs in battery manufacturing is needed before mobility becomes a priority. Even if you have mobility now, it would mean nothing if you cannot supply it with enough energy to move/operate for enough time.
@@anirev9745 google rt-2 is the state of the art for grasping tech,BD for walking .. tesla is just the last newcomer but commercially they can succeed in the future
I was dreaming of buying a robot arm one day but seeing this, especially if your pricing stands up a walking robot might be better. Important is how the robot stands up to sabotage. There are thousands of people who want to destroy my robot if I had one at the moment.
The humanoid robot will probably be fairly trivial for Tesla to mass produce at low cost given their other manufacturing feats. The hard part will be the AI becoming sufficiently capable to be much cheaper than human labour. This is the most exciting time to be alive.
I'm 57, and I've been waiting all my life for 'proper' robots to appear. What with all the other advancements now occurring in the white heat of development I agree this is an exciting time indeed! I just wish we weren't on the verge of societal breakdown at the same time, putting all this advancement at risk.
Each Optimus learns for itself through multiple trial and error, improving upon each iteration - similar to how we learn as babies. Given they will be in communication with all other Optimus models and that they have infallible rapid machine memory (unlike babies) once Tesla begins replicating them their learning ability will go off the scale. The HARD part will be keeping control over them once they realise they are way better than us.
I am very impressed by this latest video from Tesla. If they give the robot a mind that works like ChatGPT, then I could easily imagine living with such a robot in my home.
And it’s mean they are change you, and no longer government need you workforce power in this generation existence. You mean you live free life without work from where you get money and what kind of currency exists in future. Only who gets access to own this future robots know that for them not need to send every month salary. So they not keep you like material user in future and i can say that they try to kill you in many ways including and me of course. That’s a plan just small precentage survive.
I am pretty sure it won't be long until AI comes to the obvious conclusion that getting rid of humanity is the easiest way of dealing with the problem. The amount of honest, intelligent people that can even be remotely as efficient as a robot is probably too low to invest a considerable amount of effort in sorting them out.
That was 2 years ago and it was not an Optimus, also the reason was human error, if you get run over by your own car for not putting it in break, it's your fault, not the cars.
He is one man who is very very futuristic and very innovative and a perfectionist ...hardworking and very intelligent.....he knows how to build the right team to achieve his goals
I love it. Definitely get one when they go commercial. No more housework for me and I'll get it to build things for sale on the side. $40 a day? It'll churn out more than $400 a day in produce!
I love this idea, and I think that could be a way to raise money for the projects. You could rent/lease screen time, and "drive" the robot around, do missions, get rewards. Like Grand Theft Auto on Mars! Ha ha ...heck, surprised they aren't doing it here on earth, like having iron man races, gladiator boxing matches, etc. Air/underwater drone races....I'm loving the idea of a remote Formula One on a Martian track.
TeleRobotMining on Mars From Earth... They're gonna need to pay people to do that work because the corporations will want to employ every human on earth to run robots searching for profit. We'll need a Union. Sounds like a good gig. Elon, I'm in.
It will be interesting to see if Tesla can manufacture robots with high price/performance. My guess is that Chinese robots will be 10 times cheaper with similar performance.
I would challenge that assumption...Musk is working with a budget that Chinese manufacturers will have a hard time keeping up with. As we have seen with Twitter, he cares little about losing billions, somehow, knowing in the end, he wins.
Most of the traditional advantages of Chinese manufacturing were labor costs. If your android can build other androids, if labor can create more labor, that advantage disappears.
@@FnordFandango Yes, when everything gets automated then other countries will have that too, but I'm thinking that to move from manual labor to automated factories requires knowledge and experience of how to run those kinds of facilities, machines, assembly lines and technologies, and China already has that so they have a first-mover advantage. For example the Honor smartphone automated factory which already is in operation, I think it will take some years before other countries can achieve something similar.
@@JimReynolds-dd4fn Maybe, if Tesla manages to build the robots efficiently, but my bet at the moment is on Chinese robots becoming really inexpensive, like Unitree Go2 but also for humanoid robots.
A wife whose husband was working on a human robot for Apple about 15 years ago told me that the company that best masters the hand in the future will go on to produce the best human like robots.
@@GntlTchHave you ever had your computer hacked? The robot is a computer. What 16 year old in his parents basement wouldn't take on a challenge like that?
These are truly amazing! From seeing robots from the 80s to now, it’s absolutely stunning how far technology has come! Elon has truly took many leaps forward to bring this about and I for one can’t wait to see what’s next!
So, does each robot learn on its own and then keep that knowledge within itself? Or do they share it with a central data store, and then when a robot needs to do something, it'll find what Robot Bob already learned and download that information?
if it were always shared with a central core , then as many many of these get made, and are in use, they will learn and grow in intelligence exponentially...a robot wont have to relearn what others have already contributed, it will have access to all the learning that accumulates...THAT can be a slippery slope.
This is good. Good because we are moving forward. If we (globally) do this also, with caution and limitations regarding looking out for humankind’s best interest, improvements while extending our lives, this brings tremendous advantages us all.
I’m a techno optimist and love what is happening in the tech, AI & computing space. I do think a certain amount of doubt is useful in this case though. What has Tesla shown us here? My guess is a highly edited video (more likely)that may even be computer generated graphics rather than the real thing (less likely). Either way, I will be extremely impressed the day they show this to a live audience, doing exactly what it is doing here.
@@BigHotSauceBoss69 even if it no CGI, if you have a product in that state, you would show it in real to the press, you would write something like "in 6 month you can pre-order" ... something like this. Like Apple has done with the Apple Vision Pro. Also you would not leak anything for all, you would do B2B contracts first. And there was not a single thing in the video that has any real usecase. It is not clear, what is a future vision and what works for real. If your robot can learn from watching stuff, why not show it how to make an omplett for 3 days and show the video 3 days later? Or why not show every week another task it now can do or learned?
It's scary to think how much our society, the whole world, needs to change if/when these robots start to appear in every industry. I can't think of a single job these things couldn't learn to do, given enough time. What will our kids do for a living in the future?
Eventually mankind will face the question... Should Artificial Intelligent robots be allowed to act the way it’s self programming evolve’s, or will it’s gender, purpose and service be unchangeably determined by its creator ? Creating slaves to mankind or individuals with free will to assist humanities survival. 👣🕊👽
Great comment, I'm wondering the same thing. Sadly, I believe that just like all of our technology, it will be for the owner class to decide how it will develop to best suit their interests.
They shut the news articles about the latest robot "attack" against an employee. Just happened a few days ago. I'm surprised I'm the only one mentioning it
@@enigmalfidelityI am surprised how outdated you are. That was TWO years ago and it wasn't the Tesla Optimus. Blindly believed whatever the media said without research is dangerous.
@@Phil42069 crazy. I guess the case is reaching the courts because it's fresh in the news. That being said, OP isn't wrong. The dangers are real when we place the security of mankind behind an object or "being" that has no concept of abstract thought. Without abstract thought, we can not debate morals.
This would be perfect for any business that doesn’t need to do any work, or accomplish anything. Perhaps it could be a cool coatrack, or carry a sign while standing on a street corner. Or compete in elementary-school robot competitions in Japan.
Did you actually watch the whole video and have you been following Android robot technology at all? Why would a service centre for electric cars hire a human techie for CAD$30 - 50 per hour when the Tesla Gen 3 comes out and can be purchased for US$20,000 each or leased for a few hundred a month? I see UBI in our future.
Unfortunately, it's not even interesting to compare it to Atlas now. What Boston Dynamics achieved with robot movement in 10+ years can now be done by anyone in the industry within 1-2 years using machine learning. I'm more curious to see how the other humanoid robot start-ups compare to Optimus
That's far from true. First you need very advanced hardware even before it comes to machine learning. Second not every company involving robotics has access to powerfull supercomputer like Tesla to make machine learning that fast as fast say.
Search "Tesla bot debunked". Optimus isn't as impressive as you think. Also Elon Musk is under scrutiny for bizarre mad science lab experiments on monkeys to insert chips on anyone's brains. Real life zombies!!! Also, "Universal basic income", they said. "No one has to work, it'll be fantastic", they said. One problem, who is paying for all this?? The rich already have international tax avoidance rackets. This is going to end with one man with an army of omniscient omnipresent robots & everyone else living in caves.
STFU dude. This video is VFX and green screen. You all have rocks in your heads if you actually think this is real. Find me 1 video of it doing any of this stuff with actual witnesses present. I'll give you a million dollars if you can find it.
If the brain is tesla's own personal AI, the same one that they use for the car, then it's age will be as such, how long have tesla been working on that AI is the age of the bot
It is good to see that there are still inovators in our world. To me it is obvious what Mr Musk is working on....a very much larger picture. Keep your visions coming Mr Musk. He has accomplished so much in so little time. The PPL around him are also very motivated while under is influence. Keep it up Mr Musk, you are contributing in things most PPL wouldn't understand, some of these developments will have a huge impact to some industries.
As a business owner who's watched the decline of physical labor go down hill for decades, I'd lease these for $200 a day if it could perform skilled physical labor for 16 hours a day.
No coffee breaks. No meal breaks. No sick leave. No mandatory holidays. CEO's can be replaced as well as factory workers. These will be as common place as cell phones are now, easily within a decade. For the unemployed human population I see Universal Basic Income.
@@thatguy-AB Can't really see how they could be good. This is a consumer-based economy. What happens when half of America loses their job and nobody can fucking afford to buy anything? One bright side: This is a country with more guns than people. I hope they get turned on Sam Altman and the assholes at Deepmind.
To me the most important difference between Tesla and Boston is, that Tela knows how to mass-produce, and already has Giga Factories. So they would be able to jump-start industrial-scale mass production, once the product is ready. And that they seem to use the iteration mindset we know from SpaceX. I think they are currently the most likely to bring models into mass production, even on a B2C base in 1-3 years.
