We just got PTO today from our provider, PG&E. We live in Nor Cal, El Dorado Co. We had our final inspection two weeks ago. I was very surprised it only took 2 weeks. We opted for 1 power wall and a new 9.4 Kw system. However, I think I am going to add a second PW at the end of summer. Tesla initially told me 2 was the way to go but I did not want to have to finance anything.
After being switched to NEM 3.0, I see why you would switch to battery backup. I’m still on NEM 2.0, so, I’m getting full price for the power I generate (not on PG&E). I don’t have many power outages, though that is a possibility in an emergency. My solar system is a few years older, started in 2011, and is using Enphase microinverters, so I’m glad to hear your system was compatible with Powerwall 3. I don’t have a lot of wall space for Powerwalls, and the distance between yours was eyepopping. I would have to install inside the garage, or one inside and one outside the garage wall. I thought I was all set with a 4Kw Solar system, but the City Utility is planning three double digit rate increases in the next 3 years. So, I think it’s time to upgrade, especially if the City changes over to NEM 3.0.
I just had my Powerwall 3 installed today with brand new solar panels and IQ8M Enphase micro inverters. They call this AC coupled. Tesla released this a couple of months ago.
That's really cool! I haven't seen a review of a system like this yet. I don't know if you post RU-vid videos, but I'd be interested to see how it works. So is DC converted to AC at the IO8M then converted back to DC to store on the battery? If it's going straight to your house does it bypass the inverter in the Powerwall? Depending on your use case, that could be more efficient in the long run! Anyways, super interesting setup you got there.
Thank you for the video. Very informative and timely for me. I also watched your PW3 installation video. I am considering a similar setup with 6 kW solar, Tesla gateway and one PW3. I do not have room for many more solar panels, but I am waffling between one or two PW3s. I am waiting for my final design before I can move forward. It is helpful to hear about your process and positive experience.
I'd get the 2nd if you can afford it. We just got PTO on a 9.4 KW system with 1 PW3. It's great but I can see the value of a second, especially in summer.
So you are no longer in NEM 2.0 and is now in NEM 3.0. This means you are no longer getting the higher paid out rate for excess energy sent back to the grid.
Great explanation. For #3, i cant believe they restrict you from the bat. I mean, you paid and installed all this out of your pocket, its silly that you can't charge your car from solar off the start. Unless I'm mistaken lol
Yeah, I haven't quite embraced solar panels and batteries. The cost for the panels and batteries seems steep. Maybe sometime in the future? Who knows. But thanks for the video, I found it very informative.
What type of A/C do you have, single stage, two stage or variable? The reason I ask is the start up amp requirement, initial draw, when your A/C kicks on, do you need to consider that when going with the PW3?
Tesla comes out and does a full survey of your property and takes care of every consideration. So far, not a single issue running the AC on grid, or off grid using the Powerwalls. Thanks for watching.
Whats your daily average solar collection? Love to see a short video of your collection, flipping through a week of data from the Tesla App. (but might make sense to wait til your system is fully approved by your electric company)
Thanks for the informative video. I have a 8.91kw system and want to put 2 PW3 and everyone is telling me that i need to add panels. Is that correct? Do you produce enough power to fully charge both batteries? Do charge both batteries to 100% and also discharge them to 0 daily? Can these 2 batteries have enough juice to charge the Tesla?
Your system is larger than mine, and my 2 Powerwalls are charging fully from my panels daily. Keep in mind it changes throughout the year for solar production. Two Powerwalls are 27kwh, so no, it won't charge a Tesla vehicle with over 60kwh capacity. Also, you charge the Powerwalls from the grid as well, when rates are cheaper, like overnight. You can even have Powerwalls without any solar, so I'm not sure why someone told you to get more solar panels. Thanks for watching!
We are considering PW3 install with no solar. Looking to go with GAF Timberline solar when we next replace our roof. I am concerned that these improvements might increase our property taxes. Has this kind of thing happened to anyone?
Just got quotes from Tesla and their installer, Freedom Forever as I live in the south and they contract their installation. That said, I've got a 5K sq home in the rural south, and wanting to get as much "grid independence" as possible as I don't think the grid will keep up with demands in the next 3--5 years where I live and likely to see rolling blackouts, and perhaps longer periods of outages. That said, they think I can get by with 2 power walls, and panels to support them however, I'm wondering if it's not worth doing 3 power walls to maximize capacity and assure longer independence from the grid. I also have a 24KW Generac, whole home generator that runs on propane which is nice because I'll have 4 sources of energy in total, pretty cool!
@@kullanma yes, I did more homework and found that to be true so going with an Enphase 20KW system, and 21 solar panels. It will fully integrate the generator which is fabulous
Than you for making this video. Such a neat install. On 3:42 I just missed the backup gateway model you used. Does it say whether it is a Gateway 2 (Model 1232100-xx-y) (or Gateway 3 (Model 1841000-x1-y)?
My PW3 and 8.4KWh system was just installed today. I believe inspection is next so it’s not activated yet. How did you get the app connected to your PW3? Bluetooth connection or did your installers run an Ethernet cable to your PW? I don’t think my guys did an Ethernet so I may have to bug them about it. Maybe Wi-Fi built in??
As I look at the specs for the Powerwall 3 I assume it can't power the entire house, including the AC, at the same time. Does it have any sort of load managing system that prevents all of the loads from running at the same time if the power goes out?
It certainly can handle the entire house, including AC. For our house running as normal, with AC, it uses about 10% an hour. Without AC about 1% per hour.
My dual Powerwall 3 system went live less than a week ago. Using Tesla solar too. Still waiting for final inspection to sell back to the grid but we’re already about 70% PW/solar, 30% grid. Like you I’ve been mesmerized by the app. Two questions: 1) sometime the app shows power being discharged to the grid. Since I’m not approved for the yet, what’s actually happening to that power? Is is turning my meter back? 2)At night the Tesla logo on my PW3s light up, but one was brighter than the other. Does that mean anything? Thanks!
For #1 you won't get that energy back. It's gone. Even if you're meter goes backwards Edison doesn't begin to keep count until after pto. To be fair that's Edison and I don't know if other electric companies are different.
@@TeslaTipsTrips I too wish I would have gone with 3 but only have 2. I have a 10.2 Kw array though here in Florida so I'm about 98% self sufficient. The one more battery would have made it to where I don't even have to think about lowering my consumption in off grid times. As it stands, on cloudy days I turn on the grid to charge whatever the sun didn't get a chance to. As you say though, just reworking when you run your clothes and dish washer, if you can, will make it work though in off grid.
0:36 I heard that Powerwall 3 had built-in inverters. Are they only compatible with Tesla Solar? What I'm trying to ask (in a roundabout way, apologies) is why you have inverters when Powerwall 3 has them already?
You could use any solar collectors for the Tesla power wall three. There is a certain minimal DC input that you do have to provide. Also, you could connect multiple solar array to the power wall three. The DC from the solar collectors is converted to the proper DC voltage to charge the batteries. This is a more efficient set up.
I just saw the receipt posted and not bad at all. I’m curious about the Federal 30% credit being deducted from that amount? Thanks, enjoyed the video. Tesla fan and getting ready to purchase the Cybertruck.
I'm getting ready to have two PW3s installed with my existing two solar systems. One is Enphase IQ7 micros and the other has a SolarEdge inverter. They are going to remove all that and tie the panels to the built in inverters in the PWs. Also using the Tesla backup switch instead of the gateway. A novel installation for sure but will solve a few problems I've had with having two separate systems.
I just had my Powerwall 3 installed today with brand new solar panels and IQ8M Enphase micro inverters. They call this AC coupled. Tesla released this a couple of months ago.
