TESLA TURBINE | What happened? 

same here! Also subscribed! :)

I have on a different account but never this one. So I've been recommended this channel at least twice.

Same here

Yeah, I just got here through RU-vid recommendations. So they're still working.

Came here from yt recommendations

There's a fine line between Genius and insanity, and he crossed that line a few times for sure.

@@Bob-of-Zoid I don't think there's a line between at all

@Fugp Basis had a good laugh thank you. What an incredibly ignorant statement 👏

Rather focusing on his failings or perceived failings, I prefer to respect the genius of people like him, who had the "spark", the vision, the dream, and the creativity to actually design and build up things to make those dreams into a reality, despite the limitations of his time. Sure, not everything works, but others come to pick up the torch. I really cannot understand why some people need to be critical about others who raise above their peers to try to do greater things.

@@shinsetsusha The video never said Tesla was not a genius. He was, and was human too, so had limitations. I guess that recognizing a genius doesn't mean we should make him a perfect idol. The video is just mocking conspiracy theories, not mocking Tesla. Some people nowadays still believe in 100 year old ideas because couldn't keep up with the evolution of science, and create those theories to defend themselves.

It depends on the requirements for the product. Sometimes they require it at different time points.

If the content of the video is interesting enough I just jump over the product placement and go straight to the video.

@@zadinal if that's required, it could be circumvented by adding the convenience of a timestamp to skip it

If you are sponsored you don’t need youtube money. How about not money grub so much?

@@Tadesan If you have a paper route, why also mow lawns? Rent isn't that expensive. ;)

WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Agreed. That was going to be my suggestion as well.

Agreed. It really threw me off.

That and the labored pace and cadence of the discussion making it obvious he's stalling for ad time... You wait (skip) to 2 minutes in to actually get to the content... Oh, and if you title a video about subject 'A', hop to it and don't devote over half the video to subject 'B' (and advertising!) before you get to the title-indicated subject. Pin that stuff to the end with mentions in the main part.

It doesn't compare too well with the turbojets developed in the 1950s. It looks much worse when compared with anything newer. One of the killer problems is that the a thin layer of the working fluid transfers energy to the surfaces of the disks. The output power is a function of that surface area. An engine with a lot of power will need many disks. The disks have to be smooth, clean, close together, and strong.

Maybe if you use ceramic discs instead of alloy metal?

@@hamjudo I'd say it's projected efficiency compares well. The problem is that it doesn't achieve that at low rpms. What I want to see is discs connected to each other in a tightly packed spiral instead of parallel discs so that you get some direct mechanical force on top of the boundary effect when a fluid is flowing through it, which should help it perform at low rpms.

@Ricky Barber no, I mean like imagine you take a normal Tesla turbine then cut a slot through all the discs all parallel to the shaft. Then you take all the discs and push one side of the slot down the shaft until it lines up with the other side of the slot of the next disc down and then weld it there so now instead of tight discs you have two stacked corkscrews. Now water flowing through it from the side will have to move laterally to some extent to progress to the other side of the turbine but wants to move straight and this will turn the turbine instead. It's now a hybrid tesla-impulse turbine that should perform better at low rpms.

@@krazykat90501 I was thinking the same, ceramic, carbon fibre, titanium…Carbotanium.

What's keming?

That would be funnier still if any of the band could prove that they were related to his family.

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He’s better than shit music

@@lastyfirst3788Are you calling them shit? You sound like a deadbeat! Well done...

Bobo

Gnoccy I agree. He doesn’t deserve it.

bro this channel suck. he has been wrong like 10 times in the video. i stopped watching at 7:54. due to his lies

@@patrickgronemeyer3375 can you please elaborate more? would be helpful for us less tech savvy plebs.

@@user-yy3ki9rl6i wireless transmission of electricity is completely doable. there is a lab in Texas currently digging up all this research they have the exact same Tower they're trying the exact same stuff. Got government funding they've been operating since like 2017. This kid is wrong on so many levels sad he's done zero research.

@@patrickgronemeyer3375 It seems you does NOT done enough research on tesla. He built the tower for EARTH transmission. 1%loss compared to 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% atmospheric loss. See the massive difference yet? Wake the f up.

Where did you read this? Can you share please?

Ha! RU-vid pushing quality content, you're a funny one aren't you?

facebook knows how to keep me locked in so i imagine google isn’t far off on their viewer preference algorithm these vids are awesome

Bravo commentary . Welcome to Brazil .

What software does he use?

@@vinnyfromvenus8188 now this man is based

I agree, but where do we find the turbines?

@@AndyTulenko My Father and several of my Uncles were Master Machinists. Any of them could have fabricated one easily, but they have long since passed.

Any turbine that depends on friction in the fluid will be less efficient than turbines that don't. There are already very efficient turbines for water that outperform the Tesla turbine. It's not because engineers are stupid or that they don't know of the Tesla turbine, the reason for using Francis, Pelton or other types but not Tesla is simply because the other ones are more efficient.

@@skunkjobb I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that’s patently incorrect. All bladed turbines have just about the same total surface area on the inside of them that the motive fluid drags on and would still suffer stator and drag losses moving across the surfaces. Even worse the cavities are wide and can allow for wide turbulent boundary layer losses in bladed turbines. When designed properly the flow between the discs in a Tesla turbine is ALWAYS supposed to stay laminar to get extremely high efficient torque transfer of the motive fluids energy through the shear stress forces to the static layer of the motive fluid just off the surface of the discs. And “loss” in this part of the operating condition result in heat from shear stresses. However this will predominantly happen in the periphery where the pressure in the turbine is the greatest and the motive fluid still yet to fully expand through the spiral pathway. Ergo the heat generated from any “slip” is recovered through a “built in Brayton cycle recoup” through the spiral pathway, when using elastic motive fluids, like combustion and steam. This is known as the “Reheat Factor” of a given TesTur. Even more, most people don’t realize that gasses have a viscosity trend with temperature that’s the opposite of most liquids. Gasses actually get more viscous as their temp increases. So as you increase the temp of the motive gas/steam you will increase the viscosity, ultimately decreasing the slip on the discs and raising the isentropic efficiency of the TesTur. Then on top of that the higher temps bring about higher Thermodynamic efficiencies in the whole TesTur it’s self too. Charlie Solis has more than proven this with his latest TesTur builds.

Ummmm no

RU-vid is throttling him for making deepfake videos

A financial YT channel was talking about ad placement in videos. They said that "Allowing mid-roll ads" started to give them more views. Why? YT wants to make that ad money. Do what you gotta do, Subject Zero Science. We are still here for your content!

This channel just popped up in my recommended maybe there's hope

Your channel doing very well.. This so great information... Welcome to Brazil, Now is great oportunitty for investiment in cleanner electric energy turbine . Welcome to Brazil...

3d printed materials for this could solve this issue that are strong enough for this.

@F a car exhaust, chemical factories, geysers

Wtf is this content he wasted my 6 minutes just explaining things i already knew

Stumble on his idea of one-way valve... He was genius... Lots lf this can be used today... Especially in countries rich with geothermal activity.

No he didnt

@@gowdsake7103 yes he did 🤭

It's not a matter of speculation. Morgan, Warburg, Rockefeller, Gates (Maxwell), Rothschild, all responsible for and dominant over present day paradigms. They orchestrated the great depression and brought in the federal reserve. Tesla called them moneymen, and if they found out you couldn't readily meter and dominate people with it, they would have withdrawn funding. Donald Trump's uncle ended up reviewing what papers he still had after his death.

But... wireless energy is real. In the 1980s we were able to wirelessly transmit electricity 13 miles to an airplane called the Stationary High Altitude Relay Platform. We can even transmit energy all the way from space. This is a well researched topic.

@@SchemingGoldberg , did you notice the post date? It was a year ago... I'm not re-watching just so I have the context to reply. My instinct is to say 'nobody said otherwise'... but perhaps the video says he wasn't trying to transmit wireless power *with some said specific invention*... so I'd have to re-watch... this is the problem with replying to old comments that aren't still an ongoing discussion. It's stuff like this that makes it an annoying thing to do. So now you've been explicitly educated on the reasoning behind the internet etiquette of not bumping old posts. Most people simply wouldn't've replied to you. I mean to be doing you a favor by typing this. Some people need social ques spelled out to them. I don't judge, I just help.

@@binaryglitch64 The video did severely dismiss the idea of wireless electricity. It basically calls Tesla crazy, and says that it's a "conspiracy theory" that the tower could wirelessly transmit electricity. This is a public forum, I'm not just commenting to you, but also to the thousands of other people who might see this comment in the future, just like how I saw your comment.

I agree

@@yellowmartian ...brother?

Somehow things must have got much better after this. This video has 179,00 views!

You can type "+" if you want to leave comments for the algorithm. Best Wishes

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And he wasn't wrong. Just so far ahead of his time, and not a good business man.

​@@M33f3r Yeah all his designs are clearly flawless, and wold work if built today, yes? If only evil big -insert your conspiracy here- wuldnt have sabotaged his work, he would have clearly made a VTOL plane work without any way to counteract toque created by the propeller, he would have surely been capable of gathering power from pulses of longwave radio incoming a few times a second (as opposed to gazillion times a second with stuff like microwave power transmission), and he would have surely found some way to get around the issue, that longwave electromagnetic radiation spreads out in al direction, thus the farther you are the source, the large area its spreaded thin over - unlike light, microwaves and similare stuff. When "you have no clue what you are talking about" you are not "a visionary ahead of his time", you are a deluded fool. Cue in quotes from lord kelvin, about the impossibility of heavyer than air flying machines, about the age of earth in reply to darwin, and the epic fail two clouds speech starting with: "The beauty and clearness of the dynamical theory, which asserts heat and light to be modes of motion, is at present obscured by two clouds." (realtivity and quantum mechanics were the "two small clouds") Or fahrneheit... when you NEVER wrote down, and later forgot what you used for the calibartion for your zero, thats not an achievemnet worthy to be called agenius.

@@martonlerant5672 atleast people remeber his name aha man was a visionary, as the rules get 'bent' and 'broken' and more advancements are made in the right places anything can happen its small mind people thinking inside the box that are the real joke.

@@M33f3r It's sad but I can somewhat related to Tesla, I invented some of the best idea in my field for Drones - Gimbal technology a few years ago, but Im not a good business man which ended up I couldnt sell anything for profit to keep up the funding for my work. Some company even took my 4 axis gimbal idea and ended up making $300 000 from it. It's hard to balance things you can be one or another you just cant be both, you need a different mindset for business. Inventor mindset are mostly concentrate on ideas and dont care about anything else, they usually live alone and do things alone, and thats the down fall of most inventors, unless you have a close friend or someone in your family that is rich and a business man able to support your ideas, then you can be a winner.

@@AuroraCypher Yeah, it's true, I'm in the software industry, and the maxim there is that ideas are pretty much worthless. A good idea is a pre-requisite, but success is almost entirely determined by implementation (including things like marketing and sales on the tail end). Tech companies are constantly buying out other tech companies-- less because they want to own their ideas or products, but more because they want to own their capacity to implement ideas (ie employee talent and experience)

Disagree. The greatest advantages is that they actually work the way Tesla said and even at low RPMs. People just don’t know how to actually design them properly for lower viscosity motive fluids. I have a degree I. Physics and have been doing R&D on this for the last few years and have been seeing VERY successful results. My latest tests have shown 2.75kW and 6.22ft-lbs of torque at only 4150rpm on only 150psi room temp compressed air and 1200watt electrical load output tests on all the way down to only 65psi... all on a plastic and aluminum prototype….

@@CharlieSolis Great work!! There is no need to disagree. I mentioned only one of the greatest advantages.

Right! Charlie Solis has been doing a lot of work dispelling a lot of the repeated myths about the Tesla turbine with his TesTur builds! Just for the record, and I have copies of the legal affidavits from the test at the Edison pant that I got from the museum, Tesla did his 110hp test with the 9-3/4 in diameter turbine at 18,000 rpm. Which would still be around 8:1-10:1 gear ratio for 60hz AC but that’s still reasonable. I know Charlie has been gearing his TesTurs UP to his generators just to prove to people they do in fact output plenty of torque. The latest room temp compressed air tests did +5ft-lbs of torque at 6000rpm and peaked out at ~4.25kW between 6000-12,000 rpm. And the air pressure at the nozzle never even went over 40psi too! 🤯

All auto matiç transmission have tort convert

@@darrillangley6129 torque converters don’t rely on the fluid adhesion to the rotor for torque. They just rely on a high viscosity fluid smashing between blades to provide torque.

@@Lotusrk123 thats a good question, that needs investigation and real measurements to clear up any remaining controversy.

@@Lotusrk123 Tesla turbines get plenty of torque at low rpm.

Tesla is a fad, by the looks of it, a Great fad but to say Edison can suck it is woke. First time I ever used that dumb word.

I also build Tesla turbine electric generators. My latest prototype is outputting 2.75kW and 6.22ft-lbs of torque at only 4150rpm on only 150psi room temp compressed air and 1200watt electrical load output tests on all the way down to only 65psi... all on a plastic and aluminum prototype….

Like a old hand pump on the old old fire trucks to pump water

Oil being pumped from the ground often contains lots of sand which erodes conventional blades due to the high blade to fluid relative speed and the impingement of sand on the front of the blades. Tesla pumps are laminar flow with the sand travelling parallel to the surface as it enters the turbine at the centre of the disc so no erosion! Not sure about the bolts needed to hold the discs together - I imagine that there is some erosion there but these would be cheap to replace.

@@stuartkirby4654 Tesla specifically does away with the bolts in his improved turbine patent number GB 186,082 that he patented in 1921, 10 years after the original Tesla turbine patent and a decade of R&D. The bolts stop all the discs from individually expanding radially given the different loads it’ll experience. “This construction permits free expansion and contraction of each plate individually under the varying influence of heat and centrifugal force and possesses a number of other advantages which are of considerable practical moment. A larger active plate area and consequently more power is obtained for a given width, this improving efficiency. Warping is virtually eliminated and smaller side clearances may be used which results in diminished leakage and friction losses. The rotor is better adapted for dynamic balancing and through rubbing friction resists disturbing influences thereby insuring quieter running. For this reason and also because the discs are not rigidly joined it is safer against damage which might otherwise be caused by vibration or excessive speed.” -Nikola Tesla

Because of the Patent War between Edison, Tesla, and Marconi, a lot of those 1st generation engineers had to find work-arounds to avoid Patent infringement. That's why a lot of Edison, and Tesla patents aren't used today. The Tesla Turbine is heavy, and inefficient. Compared with any other pneumatic turbine, but because it was a Tesla patent, other engineers made lighter more efficient turbines by Avoiding it. Ultimately, that's why this didn't catch on: It's heavy, and inefficient.

AlphaNinerGamer are you sure he uses blender?

@@tonysamaniego7875 "All Animations are done in house with Blender EEVEE by Zer0"

it's lyes.. do your research

not to mention Im one minute in and Im like I cant listen to this guys accent sorry not sorry

Yes!! Charlie Solis makes real actual power and torque outputting TesTurs! And he’s still only using just compressed air for the initial tests too! 🤯 Sooo much more possible with the same design and higher temp steam since the viscosity of gasses goes up with temps, so the fluid will “grip” the discs wayy more. Not to mention the polar H2O steam molecule adheres to metals discs MUCH better than the non-polar O2, N2, CO2, etc molecules in compressed air. 🤭 So molecular adhesion to the disc faces is even higher for even better grip on the discs. Using hydroPHILLIC surface coatings on the discs should also further increase the fluid adhesion to the disc faces reducing slip and increasing efficiency. And that’s just talking about the increase in isentropic efficiency of the turbine. That’s not even accounting for the further increase in thermodynamic efficiency from using higher temps 🤤

Obligatory sub-comment. Also, why the hell are we not using this today?

same tbh

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Great cat picture on your profile. Scratch an ear for me. Cats rule :) I find it hard to believe that such an amazing device isn't used for applications. What if you used one to power 4 other similar turbine's. Could you get more power back than used. It would take just one single water pump to run it all. Or since it spins so fast, have quartz on the end of the rotors to create and use the piezo electric effect. Put pressure on quartz and you get power. The rich don't want energy independence. Example, Jay Leno's garage has a 1916 Owens Magnetic car that is a HYBRID. We had a hybrid car since 1916 but no major production. Meow kitty... so cute... virtual ear rub... purrr.

Must say.....this guy is incorrect on many levels.....

Prateek Karn If coal powered power stations in developing countries still use steam to power their turbines... would this devise not increase the output and therefor decrease their emissions?

@@wezwezzo Tesla turbines power the Niagra Falls.

Disc pumps are actually used for abrasive slurries, high viscosity or when there's lots of particles. They are not very efficient so if you're pumping some normal clean liquid, you better use another type of pump.

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre normal turbines can reach the low 90s percent efficiency

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre you gotta make a video

I have a torque converter instead of the usual gearbox, its amazing how it gives me almost 50hp for "free", a torque converter works using the same fluid-dynamics principle, except it doesn't convert pressure to torque, just rotation to more torque.

@@michaelofmanitoba3844 Go find the plastic tesla turbine video.

@Mr. Morningstar you are very limited in your sight.

Oh hey been subbed to 00 for a while now and this is the first vid I've seen from zero haha

This was explained so well it made me realize it's quite close to fluid dynamic coupling, so I'd say pretty top tier content yis

Actually he would have invented a time machine by then... Tesla's mind was so immensely brilliant that he could of travelled 1000 yrs into the future and step out of his machine still the smartest man alive.

Moze da nam ga duvaju turbinom! 😀

Your loss.

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@@billkgeorge bot promotion comments?! What t h do you mean?