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Test-driving a solar-powered car on the streets of San Francisco 

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@MistSoalar
@MistSoalar 14 часов назад
Go Aptera!
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 13 часов назад
It has to come first.
@DrTeeHenry
@DrTeeHenry 16 часов назад
Cargo space is comparable to a Prius (32.5 cubic feet) so, no, not a limited carrying capacity -- except, of course, it is limited to two people. Lots of room in back, though. And there's nothing wrong with lightweight, particularly if you are looking for efficiency.
@makerofthings
@makerofthings 16 часов назад
There's so much you can do with this vehicle!
@rustyshackle917
@rustyshackle917 13 часов назад
This is strictly a commuter vehicle, and the price keeps going up, and it's still just vaporware. I say this as a fan.
@makerofthings
@makerofthings 13 часов назад
@@rustyshackle917 Sorry but you sound more like you're incompetent to me.
@DrTeeHenry
@DrTeeHenry 13 часов назад
@@rustyshackle917 I will definitely use it for road trips. Great range… lots of cargo space… NACS charging. Most new products are vaporware until they’re not.
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 13 часов назад
Limited to what's left of 500lbs AFTER the occupant(s). A couple of fatties in it and it's limited to around 70lbs. Then there's the height limitation of under a foot for about half the floor area. Then you are limited by having to balance the load over the centre. If you're on your own and as weedy as Chris Mac you risk toppling if your load is a 400lb block of lead in the back corner. If you are teaching what the limitations are, first know them.
@makerofthings
@makerofthings 16 часов назад
Wow!! We have been asking for a vehicle like this for decades! I'm shocked at how cheap this is!! I just put in my order for one
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 13 часов назад
You'll be waiting for decades.
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 13 часов назад
​@@aussieideasman8498You're a proven incompetent troll
@vic321344
@vic321344 11 часов назад
The Apera motorcycle will be more expensive than a Tesla M3, a real car.
@DrTeeHenry
@DrTeeHenry 10 часов назад
@@vic321344 Motorcycles (as defined in the US) have 2 wheels; the Aptera has three (an autocycle). "Real" is rather subjective, don't you think? (For example, too bad Tesla doesn't have a "real" CEO.) If it gets me to Point A to Point B and is economical (plus various other factors), I don't give a s**t whether you consider it "real" or not. And yes, I am willing to wait for it. It will be worth the wait. But, by all means, you be you.
@USNEM
@USNEM 8 часов назад
this thing will never release. its been in development for a decade
@greghelton4668
@greghelton4668 11 часов назад
That Stanford guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Storage space is larger than Teslas and the car is not small. It is a two seater and that will limit its appeal.
@vic321344
@vic321344 10 часов назад
Its a motorcycle that is wider than a Hummer H1. There is no storage space, just a hat rack.
@purplelord8531
@purplelord8531 9 часов назад
@@vic321344 neither of you are right. there is a trunk, but it's really hard to believe it's larger than a tesla's. however I'm not even googling it because it's a long and thin space, which is automatically less functional still cool imo!
@mylifeonlegendary4490
@mylifeonlegendary4490 5 часов назад
Not to mention that there is a camping kit. There is enough room for two to sleep in the back, with a tent piece that slieves over the back of the car.
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
@@mylifeonlegendary4490 I do not want to sleep in my vehicle, where the luggage nees to be. BTW A Tesla Model y offers so much space to sleep. that there are hotels in Chine where you can sleep in these cars.
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 16 часов назад
This is the safest, lightweight, self fueling design that man has ever created. It amazes me how they methodically tested this vehicle to out perform every vehicle on the road.
@HanginInSF
@HanginInSF 14 часов назад
Literally none of those things have been demonstrated. 🤣🤣🤣
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 13 часов назад
Tell people how much you will lose when Aptera goes to the wall for the second time.
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 13 часов назад
​@@HanginInSFYou're wrong and you don't understand the word "literally" or how to use it
@HanginInSF
@HanginInSF 13 часов назад
@@EarthCreature. You do understand that this is not a production model, correct?
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 13 часов назад
​@@HanginInSF Right now.. "literally" write it down: "Aptera is in production." They're putting the production models together..... right now. How incompetent do you want to prove yourself to be?
@sfrealestatedealmaker6001
@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 9 часов назад
Great job Aptera 💪🏼
@ericwheelhouse4371
@ericwheelhouse4371 8 часов назад
1:35 yep.. it’s a car. It drives.
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
Its a motorcycle.
@vic321344
@vic321344 3 часа назад
@@bgeery GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NORTH CAROLINA SESSION 2015 HOUSE BILL 6 RATIFIED BILL H6-v-3 AN ACT TO DEFINE AND REGULATE AUTOCYCLES. "Passenger Vehicles. - a. Autocycle. - A three-wheeled motorcycle that has a steering wheel, pedals, seat safety belts for each occupant, antilock brakes, air bag protection, completely enclosed seating that does not require the operator to straddle or sit astride, and is otherwise manufactured to comply with federal safety requirements for motorcycles. a.a1. Excursion passenger vehicles. - Vehicles transporting persons on sight-seeing or travel tours. … d. Motorcycles. - Vehicles having a saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, including motor scooters, autocycles, motor scooters, and motor-driven bicycles, but excluding tractors and utility vehicles equipped with an additional form of device designed to transport property, three-wheeled vehicles while being used by law-enforcement agencies and mopeds as defined in subdivision d1 of this subsection." You can make up your own definitions, but they have no legal meaning.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 7 часов назад
Small and lightweight are benefits in today's market. It also has insane storage for its size.
@hayabusa27
@hayabusa27 3 часа назад
For 35k thats amazing, no charging no fueling! Lets go!
@smokindauberdoo4208
@smokindauberdoo4208 11 часов назад
Proud Investor 😊😎
@sfrealestatedealmaker6001
@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 9 часов назад
Awesome 👏🏼 😊
@truman4956
@truman4956 11 часов назад
Not a car, it is classified as an auto cycle. So it does not have to meet crash requirements of cars.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 7 часов назад
Doesn't have to but likely will. And will be tested at the same level because that's just good marketing.
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
@@vorg_ Aptera is not able to fulfill even the simplest of safety precautions necesary for a car.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
@@vic321344 Lmao. It literally has the highest rollover strength of any vehicle for sale. Folks like you need mental healthcare like the rest of us need oxygen. Get some help.
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
@@vorg_ No it does not. That is a line from an in house roof test in 2009, where Aptera got faktor 4 (times the weigth). Today factor 3.5 is mandatory for cars. Tesla Model Y has 10. Folks like you need mental healthcare like the rest of us need oxygen. Get some help.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
@@vic321344 You don't like that physics aren't subjective, huh? Unfortunately for you, the math doesn't lie. You can wish Aptera fails crash testing all you want, but it won't. You'll give yourself an aneurism wishing too hard before the Aptera magically defies physics and fails crash tests. Again, you can get help. Just google "I need help".
@gimmins
@gimmins 3 часа назад
The holy grail that will rival the Industrial Age, 1. High capacity, fast charging, non-flammable and recyclable reusable batteries 2. Eco friendly, recyclable solar panels with efficiency of over 80% (currently 20% at best)
@dennismayer4936
@dennismayer4936 2 часа назад
Keep your fingers crossed.
@mikeclemmons6288
@mikeclemmons6288 6 часов назад
Thank you, Chris Griffin.
@wmtrader
@wmtrader 2 часа назад
More people would buy the car if it didn't look so silly.
@silvermica
@silvermica 10 часов назад
With global warming expected to rise to 3.1C - we need this car - immediately.
@TheRhinestoneHurricane
@TheRhinestoneHurricane 8 часов назад
The carbon footprint of solar is horrendous 😂
@TheScottShepard
@TheScottShepard 7 часов назад
@@TheRhinestoneHurricane I love me some pollution, the closer to me the better!
@TheRhinestoneHurricane
@TheRhinestoneHurricane 7 часов назад
@@TheScottShepard well, you can have it 😂
@mylifeonlegendary4490
@mylifeonlegendary4490 5 часов назад
There is new technology for cheaply recycling solar. Plus I'm sure the average car burns the equivalent of a few large panels every few weeks.
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
Nobody needs a motorcycle that is wider than a Hummer H1.
@elertus
@elertus 10 часов назад
Got my reservations Got AZ ☀️! ٩(˘◡˘)۶
@clarkleakins879
@clarkleakins879 3 часа назад
It seems the nay sayers are ever present. Similar negative statements when the Tesla Roadster arrived. Prediction of DOA. Yet they thrive. Design, Performance, Efficiency, demonstrating a compelling case for adoption. Unique, currently nothing similar available. This company has completed adequate engineering, must begin production ASAP.
@audio_tron
@audio_tron 10 часов назад
Climate Change? Lmao.
@TheScottShepard
@TheScottShepard 7 часов назад
@@audio_tron it’s a thing happening to Earth, where you probably aren’t from.
@audio_tron
@audio_tron 6 часов назад
@@TheScottShepard you are washed
@TheScottShepard
@TheScottShepard 6 часов назад
@@audio_tronwashed? Hey that’s hip. I can dig it, brother. I wash you too, but with reverse osmosis water from my solar collector.
@mylifeonlegendary4490
@mylifeonlegendary4490 5 часов назад
Climate denial? Lmao. (See I can do it too) What's your point?
@ericwheelhouse4371
@ericwheelhouse4371 8 часов назад
1:51 wow maybe that was the point of it smart guy. It’s 3 times more efficient than Tesla. Most commuters don’t need more than 1 seat. If you’re buying more groceries than this car would carry you either have too many kids or you’re just insane. Brother is basing all his data on Mormons and soccer moms.
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
Tesla M3 is a car. And it is safe. Aptera is a motorcycle. And its a deathtrap in case of an accident. And it will be more expnsive than a Model 3.
@vic321344
@vic321344 3 часа назад
@@bgeery For that the 25 billion profit is quite good.
@Molishious
@Molishious 4 часа назад
My issue with this is the implication is that the car you see here can get enough energy from the sun to charge the battery and drive for 40 miles. My understanding is that they don’t really have a prototype that does that. So you really just have an electric car. I’m waiting for a video that shows a car that actually runs on the sun and can go 40 miles.
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 4 часа назад
It will never avg 40 solar miles/day. He plain said the avg is 30 in southern CA and 23 in most of the country.
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
The solar yield is just 100Watt on a sunny day. That drives you nowhere.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
An electric car 3x more efficient than any other electric car. Oh, the horror!
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 4 часа назад
@@vorg_ it's not 3x, not even close. They are trying for 2x and so far not able to demo it. It has half as many seats, 50% more wheel tracks, cost the same. Maybe saves $200/yr in kWh. Small reward for all the sacrifice.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
@@artsmith103 Sorry to burst your bubble miles per kWh is not an exponent scale. The Aptera is 3x more efficient than the best Tesla in real life testing. You also don't seem to understand the cost of maintenance. Just the time cost alone of even changing a tire on a tesla costs more than $200.
@ricarellan
@ricarellan День назад
Like an updated version of The Dale by Liz Carmichael
@aeromtb2468
@aeromtb2468 5 часов назад
should be good for europe
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
Aptera cannot be registered in europe. Too wide.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
Too wide but maybe soonish.
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 3 часа назад
​​@@vorg_ 2026 before hope of USA deliveries. Don't hold your breath for model 2. Why do you think Aptera designed a trike incompatible with European market?
@Cakebattered
@Cakebattered 10 часов назад
Next year?? Yeah Right!🤣
@HanginInSF
@HanginInSF 14 часов назад
Criminals are using that method to open car doors all over the City. They are just hitting the window a bit harder.
@WillHasManyHobbies
@WillHasManyHobbies 13 часов назад
I hope that is not how you open the production doors. I prefer a regular door handle or one like Tesla.
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 13 часов назад
You're obviously not very bright
@smokindauberdoo4208
@smokindauberdoo4208 11 часов назад
You still have to unlock 🔓 it
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
Finally a good shitpost. +1 from me.
@2cartalkers
@2cartalkers 16 часов назад
My projection is that they had better get a product into the market soon or they will be a dead player just like Fisker. Within a year the Chinese cars will come into the USA through Mexico and maybe Canada, and when they do they will out-market, out-engineer, outperform and offer very good, high quality vehicles at a lower price than Aptera. Speaking of EV's, whatever happened to Canoo?
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 13 часов назад
Up 5h1t creek without a paddle?
@ScottOstr
@ScottOstr 12 часов назад
I could see that. They could ship all the parts from China and put it together in Mexico. It could be a crazy-cheap four-wheel two-seater and sell in the States for under $25k.
@Cakebattered
@Cakebattered 10 часов назад
Exactly. $35k is the luxury automobile category in China. Chinese EV makers are already selling CUVs and four door sedans in the low $20k price range. Check out Xpeng's MONA M03, it starts at $19k US. By the time it releases, and it won't be 2025.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 7 часов назад
Neither Harris nor Trump is willing to or has the political power over unions to allow that to happen. We're in an age of tariffs. We'll never get Chinese cars en masse here unless they are Chinese designs built in the USA. Not in the next term anyway.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
Your projection is entirely ignorant of automotive development timelines but we appreciate you shitposting nonetheless.
@aeromtb2468
@aeromtb2468 5 часов назад
$35k what happened to $25k price???
@vic321344
@vic321344 4 часа назад
It was a pre covid, pre inflation estimate. And the 35k is also just an estimate. It will be around 40k+ if it will really be sold.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
trump inflation. Where have you been since 2020?
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
​@@vic321344 I doubt that. That's some aussieman dream. As soon as it goes into production they will get the funding from the state and fed alone to sell the cars at a loss for 10 years.
@ryanl6316
@ryanl6316 4 часа назад
$35K is 400 mi launch edition. The 250 mi will likely by $29K, but hopefully the price will go back to 25K in the future
@HansCSchellenberg
@HansCSchellenberg 11 часов назад
😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣
@NewsKaAchaar
@NewsKaAchaar День назад
why don't they make a simple cheap car
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 16 часов назад
It IS a simple & cheap car. It fuels itself... do the math
@madmotorcyclist
@madmotorcyclist 16 часов назад
I read somewhere that government regulations alone add over 40% of a cars cost.
@gr8dvd
@gr8dvd 14 часов назад
The body shape is the Morelli ’tear-drop’ from the 1950s and pressed carbon fiber, for aero efficiency and optimal weight/strength. So very simple. The presses are largest ever to produce body-in-carbon (aka BINC) & cost $30M… tooling only, no labor or materials included. Aptera’s website has a calculator so you can adjust mileage/yr, Solar gain (free fuel) to see gas equivalent comparison.
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 13 часов назад
@@EarthCreature. You're a simple person if you think that silly trike is even a car.
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 12 часов назад
@@gr8dvd A little more detail: "The body shape is the Morelli ’tear-drop’ from the 1950s" Morelli based it on a 1947 algorithm, but 50's is about right. He didn't use outrigger wheels, though. "and pressed carbon fiber," Morelli didn't specify CF, which is irrelevant to his design. "for aero efficiency" It gets that from the shape. "and optimal weight/strength." It's a contributor to the fuel efficiency rather than aero efficiency. You meld two concepts into one. The ditched composite had better weight/strength balance and the CF had to have a beefed-up metal frame and a roll cage to match the strength of the composite at a weight disadvantage. Hardly optimal. "So very simple." So very deceptive. "The presses are largest ever to produce body-in-carbon (aka BINC) & cost $30M… tooling only, no labor or materials included." There is no evidence the presses costed $30m, but it is clear that the ditched composite was massively cheaper. It's only revealed drawback was a slow time to make them. Ironically, you could make plenty while the CF parts are being shipped. "Aptera’s website has a calculator so you can adjust mileage/yr, Solar gain (free fuel) to see gas equivalent comparison." No evidence of accuracy, and never trust something put out by the same people who want to sell you something. Only gullible f0015 would do that.
@namenotshown9277
@namenotshown9277 День назад
All their claims are based on predicted data, there is no real data available, they made up some numbers that came up with 40 miles range on solar, but its never been shown in reality, their numbers when you look into them seem to be exaggerated and not achievable. They have never had a prototype with a battery bigger than 10kwh so they have never driven long distances, you could say the numbers they give are fake wouldn't be too much of an exaggeration. They have never tested a full size vehicle in a wind tunnel ( they took photos of it in a wind tunnel though), the cd of 0.15 was from 2006 vehicle and done with early cfd analysis. They still use that number, they wont say what newer cfd ananlysis gives for cd ( aerodynamic drag number), so its probably alot higher than 0.15. They estimate 10mile/kwh efficiency, never proven or shown to be possible in a real world scenario............maybe one day they will actually show the real data.
@mike4157
@mike4157 16 часов назад
Aptera is currently building production intent vehicles that will be able to provide these real world performance numbers.
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 16 часов назад
You're completely wrong. They spent a year testing solar gains on their vehicle panels. Their "projections" aren't optimistic numbers. They're conservative. Think before you speak
@madmotorcyclist
@madmotorcyclist 15 часов назад
@@EarthCreature. There is a blender app to simulate what you get from the solar cells on an Aptera.
@madmotorcyclist
@madmotorcyclist 15 часов назад
Slight correction: Not predictive more accurate term is simulated data. The simulated aerodynamics were validated in wind tunnel test. As for crash tests that is coming to validate the simulation.
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 13 часов назад
@@mike4157 They are two months overdue after predicting one that could drive. The prediction was as late as early July for end of August, and when I say overdue, I mean barely half built. The lying Chris Anthony said they were counting down in days rather than months and years.
@PigRipperLAW
@PigRipperLAW 10 часов назад
The math ain’t mathing.
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 10 часов назад
Yeah you're a dropout is why.
@mylifeonlegendary4490
@mylifeonlegendary4490 5 часов назад
It has what maybe the smallest drag coefficient in any vehicle. Most vehicles use more than 50 percent of its power to push air out of the way. Also the vehicle is mostly made of carbon fiber. Every part is designed to be very lightweight. Yet all the weight is close to the ground to keep it steady. What else doesn't make sense to you. I might be able to clarify?
@vorg_
@vorg_ 4 часа назад
Tell me you're an idiot without saying it explicitly.
@nitpoon7982
@nitpoon7982 5 часов назад
yeah right...lets see that drive around in chicago during winter 😂😂😂
@brendanhurd
@brendanhurd 5 часов назад
Don’t buy one then. It’s called market economics. 😂😂😂😂
@ryanl6316
@ryanl6316 4 часа назад
It will have a winter drive mode
@nitpoon7982
@nitpoon7982 3 часа назад
@@ryanl6316 😆😆
@vic321344
@vic321344 11 часов назад
Its not a car, it is a motorcycle. And the prototype they show has nearly nothing to do with the product intent vehicle.
@my2cents795
@my2cents795 11 часов назад
Aside from the drivetrain, the production intent vehicle is better in every way.
@acslater017
@acslater017 10 часов назад
You think they’re radically changing the product in 5 months?
@vic321344
@vic321344 10 часов назад
@@acslater017 Hopefully they will even be able to present a single production intent vehicle in 5 months.
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 4 часа назад
​@acslater017 What's special about 5 months to you?
@Daniel-z2j2v
@Daniel-z2j2v 20 часов назад
To expensive
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 16 часов назад
It fuels itself.. do the math
@aussieideasman8498
@aussieideasman8498 13 часов назад
@@EarthCreature. Still too expensive (I've done the math).
@vic321344
@vic321344 11 часов назад
@@EarthCreature. No it does not fuel itself. The solar yield is just 100W in best weather.
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 10 часов назад
​@@vic321344 You're clearly incompetent. It's easy to see you're not using all your brain cells & even easier to see their solar testing regimen
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 10 часов назад
​@aussieideasman8498 You're a proven, incompetent troll. You stalk Aptera progress & hate watch them succeed. It's hilarious
@Marine-oj6mx
@Marine-oj6mx 12 часов назад
Carries only two people. Very little luggage. Only 40 miles a day on solar (if it's not cloudy). Not to mention getting t-boned or rear ended by a normal vehicle and it's all over. For $35K?? LOL. I'd rather spend a little more and get a used Tesla 3 for less money.
@juliahello6673
@juliahello6673 12 часов назад
Lots of luggage. The cargo space is enormous.
@vic321344
@vic321344 11 часов назад
@@juliahello6673 Aptera has no cargo space, just a hat rack that turns into a guillotine in case of hard braking.
@greghelton4668
@greghelton4668 11 часов назад
@@juliahello6673yup. Has more luggage space than a model Y. @marine and @vic seem to enjoy saying things they don’t understand. Carbon fiber is 7 times stronger than steel and the solar panels will generate 700w of power, probably close to a 1000W if strategically faced to optimize sunlight. @marine, the average car Carries less than two people and drives less than 40 miles a day.
@vic321344
@vic321344 10 часов назад
@@greghelton4668 LOL. The carbon fiber body is not structural anymore, now it is a simple aluminium frame, where the plastic panels are glued on. The real yield of the solar panels is just 100W under ideal conditions.
@greghelton4668
@greghelton4668 9 часов назад
@@vic321344 you’re not worth holding a discussion with. Does anybody take you seriously?
@erich84502ify
@erich84502ify 12 часов назад
But sf has overcast and fog😅😂I'm sure it would do great in a crash with a cybertruck😅😂
@johnmcintyre1965
@johnmcintyre1965 День назад
DEATH TRAP of a car.
@NewsKaAchaar
@NewsKaAchaar День назад
why?
@RobertPatrician
@RobertPatrician 23 часа назад
@@NewsKaAchaar To move something of that size with that much coverage of solar panels, considering battery weight, it must be made of balsa wood and unicorn sparkles. That thing gets rear-ended by another car and it's going to be pancaked against the car in front of it.
@TheScottShepard
@TheScottShepard 21 час назад
@@RobertPatriciancarbon fiber and aluminum. It’s built like a race car to be extremely light and protect the occupants. It has substantial crush zones and the front wheels sheer off. Today’s cars aren’t the best possible way to make cars.
@LarryDickman1
@LarryDickman1 17 часов назад
You have no idea what your a typing about.
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 16 часов назад
It's safer than most vehicles, actually. You obviously don't understand anything about crash safety.
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