Tested: HTC Vive Review 

I really suggest waiting a while to see a price drop. I feel this will have the same effect as many early adopter products have and that's being overpriced. It'll probably follow the path of bluray and flat screens and drop in price.

+arthos4551 obviously it will fall in price - economy of scale ... but that means you have to live without until that happens. and actually the next gen will likely be the same price, just even better. so you could pick up a DK2 cheaper now used ... I have been using the Vive DK1 for 4 months ... I would never want to miss that time :D

+NeonR3D or you can buy and use it for a few weeks and return

NeonR3D same

@@arthos4551 Hi I am from the future, and the price has dropped $599

very true

+Joey R (SmokeyNYY) very false

+Sean Wan by design the Atari was more boxy and didn't really fit on your face no matter what the experts say

Zac Magnum Wow it is an analogy. Wasn't meant to be literal.

+Joey R (SmokeyNYY) an analogy is when you compare two things without using a simile.

+PhanaticGamer 11:00 too lol

+PhanaticGamer Note to self, don't recording additional dubbing in a cave :P

+littlefrank90 yeah vr is something that deserves the time for detailed conversation.

Me too, I can't believe I just watched the entire hour. REALLY want to try it now. Great review!

What joystick?

+CinePhil101 Yes there is. :)

+lednerg That's definitely true. It also has superior head tracking, something the Oculus Rift really does a poor job at. I've recently used the PS VR now and must say that's not that far apart from the OR, which is insane when you compare the cost.

+magzire look up elite dangerous, and live for speed.

+peacockj08 elite dangerous is not much of a flight sim

WeeWeeJumbo True, but it's still kind of a similar concept.

peacockj08 yes - yes, fair enough :-)

+magzire Elite Dangerous on the Rift DK2 was stunning, I mean amazingly awesome. VR really makes you feel like you're there, the sense of size and scope, it's really difficult to hype it too much when it's done well. I more than once found myself reaching for controls that didn't exist. It's really hard to oversell how great the experience is. For racing I played iRacing which is a hardcore sim and again it's quite amazing. You find yourself judging distances like you do in real life, by distance and sense of speed as opposed to memorisation or following any race lines. Elite is way more impressive, but if you have a wheel setup iRacing with a Rift makes you feel like you're legit driving around. The downside on both is pixelation - the resolution of the screens will need to greatly increase before you don't see that, but honestly it's not normally a big deal. The one place it actually is a bit of a big deal is with stuff like iRacing because you can't always see far enough ahead to make accurate judgements on when to brake and turn, etc. The final products bump the resolution specs up a bit more, but we're still a few years from stuff looking real. But it's not about looks, it's about feeling, and it feels real. Which is another concern, motion sickness will be a big issue for a large number of people. Not a majority, but a sizeable number none the less.

Only if I can ride a Ostrich. Haven't done that since I was young.

Don't think schools are willing to pay for 10+ devices that cost 800 dollars each.

+arthos4551 Did you not see how much the LA School District paid for the failed ipad program? This is no different. They could at least roll out a small program. This is exactly what the future of education needs(opinion!)

+A.D.Dudes We arent talking about just one item purchase. We are speaking about high end PCs that are capable of VR and the headset itself. I have never seen a high end PC in a public school unless it was for a special teaching. Thats at most 1800 dollars for each setup. Thats alot more than a iPad. I think what would work is a deal with schools like Dell does. Unless a price drop in headsets or high end PCs happen I don't see this happening any time soon. Also to clarify I'm talking about multiple headsets for a class not just one shared set.

+arthos4551 Definitely see your point regarding the initial expense. However, I could see them buying a few headsets + high end computers and adding them to a lab. Make it a part of extra curricular activities. Possibly working with the PC makers to create a subsidized package.

A.D.Dudes agreed. I remember in my old elementary school we only had a few computers so only a few people got to use it each day. That's how I could see this working.

+KyroSkee couldnt with this you can only move in a pretty small space like 6 by 5 foot or 16 foot so you can only move in a certain area. would be cool but you would also need an omni treadmill

+TheJarmag I'm pretty sure you can use htc vive sitting down if you download a mod that makes it so you can use any game sitting down or buy it on steam and play it on cinema mode.

that doesn't really solve the problem....

Sorta does, although sadly you cant move around. :/

+TheJarmag An official update/ sequel, and then a fan made HTC Vive version say otherwise.

Even if it is hard it's vr! Why not? Even if it takes three hours to set up in the end it will be worth it.

What? Check 16:20, the eyes are clearly left-right, like normal.

+IronwolfSOF You still need to be in view of a basestation.

+DubstepEditzz I'm in the same boat as you - this is going to be the slowest month of my life...

I'm a year late but how's the VR going?

2 yearslatebuthowis the vrgoing?

+Seggins Productions No. You will be moving

+Seggins Productions That thinking is insanely flawed...

It's about the 360 degree rotation which the vive is capable of. The minimum space for walking is about 1,5x2m - that's enough to have plenty of fun. Or you just use the standing version, than you have also 360 degrees of freedom.

+Seggins Productions There is a standing option in the setup phase, although some games do require room scale. Steam should add a logo/filter to indicate that. Either way, you're paying 200 extra but you're getting the motion controllers and the second lighthouse. I think it's unlikely that the Oculus Touch controllers are going to be cheaper than 150 so I doubt you'll have any monetary gains. Also keep in mind that the Vive has the Chaperone system which is also just handy if you want to sit down or take a drink. On the other side, Oculus has a smoother experience right now. The hardware is more polished and is easier to set up. When it comes to content, they're both surprisingly solid. Oculus has Valkyrie, Lucky's tale, Chronos, etc while Vive has Hover Junkers, Tilt Brush, The Lab and a bunch of other stuff on Steam. I recommend you choosing based on those factors because you're spending that 200 by the end of the year anyway on Touch controllers.

Niosus The oculus lineup is way better for gamers. The vive misses the "big game" to play. My vive arrives in the beginning may, I hope there is something kommen the next few weeks

Except that Valve isn't concentrating any efforts on adding support for actual regular games. All of their efforts are on custom games made exclusively for the device, with ridiculously limited game design and gameplay.

I kinda got the same idea watching this movie hardly any games and mainly tech demos. They even use the 2d black character cut out thing for multiple "games"

+barti xanti Game creators spend years and millions of dollars developing titles. It's understandable that they want to see if this new tech takes off before investing the time and money.

+WarpRulez Valve can't add support for 'regular' games. Their older games like portal 2 and half life 2 already work in steam VR. They can't add support to games by other developers. I don't know what point you're trying to make here.

MrSquishedsquashed Citation needed. I can't find a single reference anywhere that Portal 2 supports the Vive (or any other VR headset for that matter). Valve doesn't seem to be interested in adding Vive support to _any_ of their existing games, nor promoting the device as a platform for any existing games.

+KangarooBeard Yeah, it's a shame this is the last video Tested will ever do :(

+Fawesum it is a shame :(

+KangarooBeard Eve is exclusive for Oculus for now.

+AntonAntonov Dam totally forgot excuse that blunder then! I heard some talented people are already getting Lucky"s Tale to work with the Vive and are having some great success, just having problems with nailing the head tracking.

Except that the Oculus Rift is concentrating on actual games, while the Vive is concentrating on ridiculous "physically walk around your room" technology demos that have no future. The only thing that can save the Vive is if third-party game developers add support for it to their actual regular games. So far it seems that Valve is not interested in actual games.

WarpRulez What a ridiculous assertion. Valve commissioned the f'n thing, why would they not be interested in making "actual games" for it? Anything the Rift can do, the Vive can do too. The Vive can just do more, that's all. It's a better product.

+WarpRulez Its called testing concepts

What do you mean?

haven't heard that one before

Huh

the lamest joke to be up voted, ladies and gentlemen.

JordyT1998 too salty to handle my memes

pie189​​ it was not a meme, it was a shitty pun. And it was played, so horribly, I threw up

+Decenium Its like Obi' s voice ..."use the force Luke" LOL

war thunder with the hand controllers

And then realize how much worse it feels having it above you.

i never did hang it lol

Yup, also you might be surprised at how much stuff is in the Vive box. They are very generous with all the extra stuff they give you - wall mounts, two USB charging cables, AC charger, surprisingly decent earbuds. It's a nice package (that's what she said).

XD

What the fuck are you talking about? PSVR is $856 while Vive is $500 on amazon. Not to mention HTC Vive is objectively better anyways. Before you tell me I'm wrong, I took the price of the PS4 Pro, the camera and the headset as to assume the person looking to get into VR has a PS4 (let's face it, the number of people with a PS4 Pro compared to the number of people with a PS4 is currently very small). If someone already has a PC they don't need to buy a new PC to get the Vive.

+Shadow For your argument to work, the PSVR buyer doesn't already own a console the headset is compatible with but the Vive buyer already owns a PC that's powerful enough to handle VR. So... what the fuck are *YOU* talking about?

***** The average PSVR buyer likely owns a PS4. and needs to buy a PS4 Pro to get PSVR. It depends on which platform you own. It costs more for a PS4 player to get a PSVR headset than it does a PC gamer to get a Vive.

+veiron1 The Rift's tracking needs a USB port as well.

+veiron1 To each his own

***** True, but then all I have to do is place it on my desk. Light boxes must be placed other places in the room, with a power cord connected. And then you have the base station. And no integrated sound. I have Sennheiser wireless headphones, but I will still prefer just having only VR headset on my head. I am not trying to diss HTC Vive, it i surely a great product. It is just not suited for everyones needs. :)

How is the VIVE gimmicky?

Agreed. The simplicity of the experience is much more refined. Plus the Oculus has all of their store titles + all of Vive's store titles.

Michael Hudgins - Oculus has about 8 exclusive titles right now (they say 30 because they count the Gear VR stuff as well), whereas VIVE has about 70 exclusive titles within the next 2-3 months in total.

+Simon Christensen Numbers within the next 2-3 months is a speculative point to make though. Personally, when I made my decision, I made it based on what I want to play when I first open the headset. It is what is available to me now. Right now, I would say (for me) there is no competition on which headset has more content and refinement (this may change in the future though). It is in everyone's best interest for both to succeed, so I hope plenty of people enjoy both platforms. I can't wait to see what Oculus brings with the touch, even if it is worse than Vive room scale.

Well, today alone, plenty of titles launched on Steam ready to be played with the VIVE. Besides, with Facebook controlling Oculus, I can't imagine why anyone would want to buy into the ecosystem they're trying to create.

+B Mo "Im starting to feel like this PS4 hype is going to crash... they have not produced any good REAL games for anything yet... we are still in the WII sports era." - B Mo at PS4 launch.

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You can do a hell of a lot more than gaming on it. Half of the people I know getting one not gamers and I don't mean porn.

+xwize Triple A content takes years of work. People only learning how VR actually works.

+B M It took a full year for solid games to come out on the PS4 and Xbox One what is your point?

+Gentleman This is more like a product presentation. It almost feels like an ad.

+Gentleman What is your definition of a review?

+Decenium Something that is more about the pros and cons of the system. About the price and usability, about its strengths and weaknesses, how it compares in different areas to competitors. Not a product presentation which only focuses on showing what it can do and what comes with it. What it can't do and what doesn't come with it is equally important.

Erwin Lommer well ... I think you need to see the review again because prior to actually playing with the device they went into everything and how ti compares to the competition soooo yeah

+Toamastar15 I need everything instantly!

+DesignVisStudios Or we need convenient videos which we don't have to take an hour out of our day to watch? For viewers who work full time and have other shit to do watching this hour long video is basically taking 20%+ of their remaining free time which is asking a lot for a single video. There's a reason shorter videos are typically more popular

This is an in depth review, they have tons of short videos on it so if you don't like it don't watch it..?

But we like tested and their content but its just so darn long and we want a quick review of what they think.

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+Molten ZAZ I tried finding the video source but couldnt, in it they were able to play in a space of 45ftx45ft. Its from either Node or BrandJLA, but again, i couldnt find in what video they tested this. Though then its less an issue of tracking and more so cable length. The Oculus currently allows you to add trackers in order to increase play space, and the Vive will be adding this feature. Though that 45x45 instance was only using the 2 provided Lighthouse trackers.

+Pawan Thapa you need a fairly high end PC it's all on there websites.

+Neddskorg Because I have both HMD on pre-order and I was wondering if I would unplug the Vive and Plug in the Rift into that box would it work hence my question. I like the idea of having an HDMI+USB3 breakout box at the front of t he PC, It would help protect the rear ports against cable pulls. I've not seen such a box on Amazon, etc yet.

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+Jerry & Garry There's a STEAM VR Test thing you can download on Steam which will run your computer to check if it's powerful enough.

+Heliu5W0rder it already has

Yea u can play sitting down games too.

Yes, but you need the sensors.