It's a blast to ride! It was a bit rough getting it assembled with the minimal instructions and the shipping job wasn't the best by FedEx. But Ride1Up's support has been good. I think they even updated the specs on it since my torque sensor (I think it's only a cadence sensor now). I can keep up with tandem bikes and much stronger riders without a problem!
I recently bought a Lmt'd and a Core 5 from Ride1up bikes. We are enjoying them both. The Lmt'd is better because of the torque sensor, and front suspension. I can put it in the top peddle assist and can ride at 5mph up to 31 with a nice smooth feel. It's a great bike. The Core 5 is great but the sensor is all on or all off. You have to pick the power assist (0 to 5) to go the speed you want. It's like if you have it in power 5 and peddle real slow, it will just take off to 20 mph. It's not a big deal, to just pick a lower power. It's a great bike and a great value. I think they both look awesome. Most ebikes look weird. Ride 1up look so normal, half of the people, don't know they are electric assist.
Thanks for the review. I'm looking at buying a Limited but don't find I lot of reviews where they actually ride the bike. I have a Bose system for computer speakers and with your chest-mounted camera, I can hear your heartbeat.
@@bernievassallo3336 I love it. Perhaps my favorite purchase in the last few years. I have the model with the torque sensor. Some models of LMT’D have a cadence sensor. I prefer the torque sensor as I am coming to ebikeing from a cyclist perspective and feels more natural to me. I have heard people say that the cadence sensor feels more powerful because whenever you are moving the pedals you are getting full power right away. However, I use my gears like an analog bike and I have never had any problem with hills. In 2 years I have put just under 6000 miles.
@@davidverzwyvelt1962 mostly just wear and tear maintenance such as break pads, tires, and a broken spoke. The only odd issue I had about a year ago was the torque sensor. The bike began to occasionally “surge” when pedaling but with no real torque applied. It would even accelerate when pedaling backwards! I contacted ride 1 up and they were very helpful. I was able to install the replacement torque sensor bottom bracket myself. I have no experience as a bike mechanic. Other than that it still works great and I still use it.
Thank you Ryan for the update and tests. That was pretty impressive and seems like the new controller makes a big difference. The LMTD is still high on my list and number 1 for a hub-drive. I'll keep tuning in to see if you're able to get your hands on a mid-drive for comparison. Again, much appreciated. In addition to the Dost, I'm also very interested in the Rize RX.
Yeah thanks for taking the time to review this bike for us and post it. Like others have said, not too many video reviews of this bike so it is much appreciated. I will place my order this week and order the rear rack you recommended. Impressive stuff all around. Good work!
The thing that limits the top speed is not the torque sensor or assist level. Its the top gear. At level five, in the highest gear you can reach almost 30 mph. If you could use level 5, but with additional gears your potential speed is unlimited.
The 100Nm torque output is one of the highest I’ve found for an ebike hub motor. Torque is what you want for hill climbing and acceleration. You need enough torque to overcome the force of the total weight of the bike and you on a slope. Smaller wheels help with hill climbing and acceleration due to their greater mechanical advantage at the cost of top speed capability. Assuming the motor delivers enough torque to overcome the slope of the hill, power is what determines your top speed climbing the hill. If it lacks sufficient torque on its own, you have to deliver the rest.
I'm glad they are improving this! Something else to consider that may result from this change: I hope this didn't cause any issues with shifting. If the motor stays running when you stop peddling to shift, then there might be extra wear on the gears. Lots of mid-drive bikes will "clutch" by sensing you're shifting and letting up on the motor. The lack of brake motor disconnect along with this new change might cause extra wear if you're not especially conscientious when shifting
I'm pretty sure that this issue is only an issue with mid-drives. There is no extra tension with the rear hub motors since the motor isn't driving the chain. The cassette is always freewheeling so you don't need to worry about when you shift.
Torque sensors make all the difference in my eRiding experience as well. Thank you for sharing. Assembling my daughter's Ride1Up 700 this afternoon and can't wait to see her big eyes light up when done. Curious where you purchased those aerodynamic mirrors? All the best, Bob
Here they are: amzn.to/3kpZSIf (affiliate link). Hafny sent me a whole bunch of mirrors to test out and I am a huge fan of them. I did a video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dOxQ64eTyOQ.html
Seems a lot smoother and maybe even quieter. Ride1up has great customer service. I contacted them about the new controller and they are sending me one as well. I have an issue with the 21h error and the motor disconnecting. Supposedly the new controller will fix that. I'm still curious about the screen. I know that the controller is the most important part and according to them there's not much difference either way. I just feel like there's more settings in the new computer over the smaller one. Like the ability to customize the percentage of assist for each level of assist, changing the speed limit etc.
Yeah sorry about that Randall. I noticed this as well. I had it positioned all of the way up on my chest harness but I must have been riding more hunched over.
@@davoncci Hey David, I have no experience with Juiced directly outside of trying to get a bike to review. Check out one of their unofficial Facebook pages - I'm sure you will find some opinions on customer service: facebook.com/groups/346854629160136
I have a Juiced CrossCurrent S and I think it is a "Best in Class" for this type of ebike. The pre-sale customer service was outstanding, HOWEVER the post-sale/warranty was so bad to resolve a warranty issue. (It is still a not solved issued after 1.5 years of going back and forth with Juiced) I now don't recommend Juiced Bikes anymore when ask because of this experience. That's what led me here to the LMT'D.
Thanks for the update. The odds are good that I'll purchase a LMT'D now. My 77 year old friend purchased a Dost Drop so I have been riding with him and getting his feedback. His big complaint was the 750 watt mid drive motor was too powerful and pulled too hard in PAS 1. We change the PAS settings from 5 to 9 and also went into the display and changed a setting from 3 to 0. I forgot what it was called but had to do with the sensitivity of the torque sensor. Seemed to make a big difference. So the Dost cost exactly $2800.00 and no tax. Maybe being from Canada? The LMT'D with probably be $1950.00 with tax. That is still a $850.00 savings. I also like the feel of a rear hub over a mid drive. I'm not doing any serious off road riding and would like to pass on the wear and tear on the drive train. One other question is how do you like the Cafe handlebars? When I finally decide to order I will use your link.
How does the power (torque) compare btw the 500 and LMTD? I want to buy the 500 but am worried about hills in my area (San Diego suburb, nothing extreme but I live in a hilly area). How does the torque compare btw the two models?
@@exxekhan hello Asif… I live in San Diego as well off of 94 & Euclid… some big hills. Did you end up with the ride 1 up limited ? If so how is it on those hills
@@bernievassallo3336 I got the 500. The torque/power is fine. No problem. However, the mechanical brakes are totally inadequate. I replaced them with hydraulic calipers to be safe. They shouldn't sell an e-bike with mechanical brakes.
You can hear it but it really doesn't bother me. I guess I don't quite understand why people are concerned about the motor noise. It's an ebike after all. Louder than some motors but not loud enough for anyone to hear you coming from behind.
I have a Ride1up 500 Series and I think the motor is a little loud sometimes, but I only worry about it on bike paths that also have pedestrians. I sometimes will cut the assist down to 0 or just coast past them because Class 3 eBikes are not technically legal on all bike paths.
Thanks for the update. I am waiting on my LMT'D to ship mid- September as well. Was told it may or may not ship with the new controller and if not I would get one sent to me. Did you happen to get the model off the new controller? I am curious if there are any connections that could be leveraged to connect a headlight/taillight as per the 700s. By the time I get mine, it will be late Sept early October, and will need some lights as the daylight fades to Fall.
Good job showing the hill b4 the climb. The limited is a good value. Though they should have automatic motor shut off on the breaks. A good safety factor. I was laughing cuz I think mid drive is more simplistic with the motor isolated, the rest of the bike is a regular bike. Ignore the motor and its a regular bike all around. And let's face it, most people will not be working on their motor, hub or mid drive. You thought a hub drive motor was more simplistic. LOL! Everyone has a preference and opinion. It's all good. I like hearing about your opinions. Good vid bro. R1U has some good bikes for the value. Then I started to think about improvements. Then went with Dōst Cope.
I do not have the automatic motor shut off on my current E bike. All you need to do is stop pedaling for the motor to stop or take your finger off the throttle. Kind of like driving a car where you take your foot off the gas before hitting the brake. To me it just seems to be another device that could fail and keep the bike from running. But if the display had cruise control you would need a brake cutoff system just like in a car.
Yeah, I think it all depends on the rider. Many people are very comfortable on ebikes and there are also people who might not be as confident. For some the motor cutoffs fool proof the bike, which I think is a good thing.
Does it limit the sped to 28 MPH? What if you speed down a hill or something like that? It seems like when you tried to go faster, you were not able to, even though you tried.
From my recollection the motor cuts off at 28 mph meaning no more assistance. Of course if you're going down hill the motor isn't going to slow you down so you can achieve higher speeds.
I'm not sure if any updates have been made with the Core-5 yet. My guess is that being it is a cadence sensor there is less to fine-tune. The Core-5 comes in at an incredible price point and I'm hoping to do a full review in the coming months.
It really depends on the use case. If I could only have one it would be the RadWagon for its versatility. Most fun would be the X-Class. All depends on your preferences.
This was a great video and super helpful. My LMT'D just shipped. I wanted a torque sensor and after watching your video I'm pleased with my decision. Question: What camera setup did you use for your video? I've got a number of lengthy rail-trail trips in Michigan planned this summer and would like to get a good video setup. Keep up the good work!
Glad it helped Alfred! Enjoy your new LMT'D! Check out this video for what I use to film: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WglM7XMTc2g.html
@@bernievassallo3336 Several thousand miles on plenty of trails around the US, both paved and unpaved, some with huge elevation (to the sun road in Glacier this past June). Love the bike. Torque drive is very close to pure riding experience, assist helps my knees not blow out, gives me much more distance. Fantastic quality bike that has been a life-changer for me.
Hello. May I ask what weight range are you in? trying to gage the torque of the motor, going throttle only pulling you up on what seems to be a steep hill at 14mph, which is amazing.
I noticed they don't ship with torque sensor anymore. Why? How is the bike with just PAS cadence? Dou you ever have problems with chain coming off front ring to inside when in 1st gear?? Thx
He talked about it a bit in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NpsqJZYIc4g.html There is nothing wrong with a cadence sensor, it is just a different experience. I've ridden both and while I prefer a torque sensor to get more of a workout I ride cadence sensor ebikes all the time. I did not have any issues with the chain popping off.
Thanks for the video. I'm looking to purchase the LMT'D XR. Does the new controller come with these newer bikes or do you need to add it and install it as you did?
Where did you get those mirrors. They are sweet. Could not find them in your links. I have ordered a LMT'D and my wife a 700ST. Will your mirrors fit on both? Where can we get them?
Both are great ebikes. Aventon has the benefit of being in dealerships and the Level.2 has different frame size options for riders. But Ride1Up is a couple hundred dollars cheaper. So if you are an average sized person or on a budget, the Ride1Up might be the better option. But neither is a bad ebike, and both companies are great.
As long as the bike doesn’t have a free wheel it should have the appropriately splines on the rear to accept a SRAM cassette. I would call Ride1up to confirm. You would really want a HG freehub body to work with sram axs.
Wait a second, I thought the torque sensor was so that the motor can match the power that was input? Does it literally just flip the motor on and off when it senses torque above a certain value???? That's not what I wanted at all. I am siting here after just having placed an order for this LMT'D bike. Ugh
The more power you put into pedaling the more output you'll get from the motor. Sounds like this is what you're looking for. A cadence sensors simply senses whether you are pedaling. Check out this video for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NpsqJZYIc4g.html
@@EbikeEscape yes that's what I'm looking for. So if it matches your torque, why was it jerky? I had a few cadence bikes and those would jerk ON as soon as the motor sensed you were moving the medals. And suddenly off a second or two after you stopped. I don't understand why you had the experience you had. And if the new controller fixes it why is the jerk now only "better"?
which handlebar version was that? the euro or the riser? i'm thinking about buying one but since it's a new model i may wait a year or so instead so i'm not a beta tester.
@@bernievassallo3336 Hi Bernie. I have a Juiced Biked Cross Current X. It's a good bike, but I realized that I'd rather have a fat tire bike, so I'm keeping my eyes open. Not desperate for the change but will probably make it at some point.
Ryan, what's the top speed on this LMT'D on throttle alone that you have gotten? The Ride1Up says throttle alone tops out at 20mph for LMT'D(I have my doubts, as they want to keep it technically legal as an e-bike). I've heard people get up to 24mph on throttle alone with their Ride1Up 700 bikes.
Hey Steve it maxes out at 20mph so at 20 the throttle stops working. However I'm told that the new revisions allow you to throttle up to 28mph as long as youre pedaling.
@@EbikeEscape OK. Forgot to ask for all your Ride1Up bikes. Is it easy, to ride Ride1Up bikes with pedal assist off(have the motor on, but at PAS 0)? Had heard it was much harder to do with rear hub motor e-bikes, compared to mid-motor ebikes.
@@Steve-yo5jn I personally don't think it's hard to pedal but that's going to be highly dependent on the rider. The added weight makes it harder but not significantly so. I would imagine lighter mid drives would be easier
Do you feel like you are actually propelling the bike with your legs. I need some assit but I want to be able to get a workout as well. What's your thoughts?
@@EbikeEscape Thanks soo much for your reply and content. I believe after 2 months of research I've decided to make my purchase today. I am placing my order on the Aventon Aventure. It seems to be an Awsome All around bike and it's pretty well known. My Local bike shop will be happy to work on it. Not to mention it's A class 2 with opinions for a class 3 when I'm out in the city. I saw one review that mentions this bike is also a class 1.. IF that's true it going to be a great ALL AROUND bike. My wife and I are super excited to start a new hobby and meet some amazing people. If you don't mind I'm happy to use your link to make my purchase. Also if you sale your bike escape tees I'll purchase those as well. Just provide me with the link to purchase the bike and possibly a tee shirt would be awesome! Keep doing what you do dude it great information!
Does the 500 have enough torque/power/battery for a hilly suburban neighborhood? I'd like to get the LMTD but the 500 is more in my budget. Please advise.
@@EbikeEscape I watched all your videos. I'm really doing my homework bcz I bought a bike from Costco and immediately didn't like it (fat tire is not for me). So I want to make sure I choose correctly this time.
Many of our rides are under 20 miles so I simply charge as needed. Plus, the range is so dependent on how much you are helping the bike as well as terrain. I'd say the 30-50 miles from Ride1Up is pretty accurate. I did 30 the other week on a combination of crushed gravel/road. Pedal assist 2, going just under 20 mph. I maybe had another 5-10 miles until the battery was depleted.
@@davoncci The RipCurrent S is $700 more so I do believe the LMT'D is a better value. A lot would probably come down to whether you want a fat tire ebike or not. The huge battery is also nice on the RipCurrent S. For me personally I'd have a hard time spending over $2,000 on an ebike. Around $1,500 is the sweet spot which is why you see me talk about numerous companies in this price range. I think the LMT'D offers some better performance for a few hundred dollars more. For most people though who are just getting into riding again or don't know how much they will use it I recommend spending less. You can always upgrade down the line if you find you are using it quite a bit. I'll be reviewing the Core-5 and the 500 Series in upcoming videos. I am very interested to hop on some truly budget-priced ebikes.
I have a 500 Series from Ride1Up with the same throttle. I’ve test ridden a few other bikes that didn’t have it and I have to say it is a great feature. I use the throttle to get started all the time - especially at stoplights. It also comes in handy when I am rounding corners and concerned that a pedal will hit the ground.
There is no USB plug, but you could take out the controller and purchase a front light that would be integrated into the battery. No issues with assembly I did do a live unboxing if you're curious. The biggest challenge for most people is probably the front fork. Front forks come pre-installed on some other ebikes. But if you're handy and willing to learn it isn't too bad to assemble. Be sure to have a professional check it out first though both for piece of mind and warranty purposes.
We don't want a powerful bike to be subtle..That is what their other bikes are for..If you already have a mountain bike and you buy the 1000 watt bafang mid drive and buy a battery and install it yourself, the cost is 1,200 dollars and the performance and value is unbeatable, and anyone can do it, unless your an idiot, top speed is 35mph....
There are so many we are learning about new brands daily also. Ride1Up has been around since 2018, and makes one of the most affordable Mid-drive ebikes we have reviewed.
Well that didn’t take long for them to pull the crappy and cheap bottom bracket torque sensor model off the market, to never return again. When you only spend $15 more for a torque sensor than a cadence sensor, you know it won’t last. These bottom bracket torque sensors always fail ! The wire inside gets stripped. Bc the bracket pieces are sticking plastic and can’t hold up to the rigors of basic pedaling. Easily the worst design ever, and you would have to be bonehead stoopid to put a bottom bracket torque sensor on an ebike. Those are reserved for all the low IQ diy folks who think they can buy a diy conversion kit on the cheap and actually have an ebike that works longer than a few months. Lol.
I do not know much about the specific torque sensor so thanks for sharing your perspective. It performed fine when we owned it which was 700 or so miles worth. I hope someone else comes up with a nice spec'd ebike with a torque sensor for sub $2000.
@@EbikeEscape surface 604 has a very good one, like that used on the Stromer brand of ebikes. But they have had to keep raising prices the past 4 years, and are impacted in no small part by the 25% tariffs like every other brand. Biden needs to dump these Trump tariffs ASAP.
@@EbikeEscape I disassembled the Bafang bottom bracket due to what appeared to be excessive side-to-side play. That was partly due to excessive paint on the side faces of the BB shell. Due to the paint, the ribbon cable from the sensor had the shrink tubing scraped off one side as it was rubbing against an edge of the pass-thru hole. Luckily the insulation on the wires was still intact. The ribbon cable was also incorrectly folded against the sensor body. Two strikes against the company who makes these for Ride1Up. Ride1Up customer support gave me the information I needed to service it. After sanding off the excess paint and wrapping the ribbon cable with electrical tape to patch the hole in the shrink tubing and folding it correctly, it easily cleared the space between the sensor body and the BB shell and fed through the pass-thru hole correctly. The paint on the side face of the BB shell is what makes the ribbon cable run against the sharp edge of the hole. Ride1Up would do themselves a favor by asking their manufacturer to 1) drill a larger pass-thru hole and breaking its edges and 2) mask the side faces of the BB shell during painting.
I’m thinking about the Ride1Up limited but also the Juice line. Or maybe wait till next year with the new models since most are back ordered until at least September.
@@MrInnovativeMusic Good bike for the price. Was in my top 3 until I decided on a mid drive. Had some issues but seems to have addressed them. Only problem is, they didn't explain any solutions they found to address known problems. Just ignore it and fix what you can. Hope nobody noticed.
@@davidg426 i hoped they fixed them saw quite a few issues from a year or so ago that ppl posted online. I don't have 2700 with tax for a headache or throw away. I heard mid drives have their own unique problems what made you decide on a mid drive motor
