I really like the new one. The sound is brighter and sweeter but still having a mellow quality. The old bell after the new one sounded much duller, like the sound was deadened somewhat. I would LOVE to see a visit to Marigaux!
WOW!! From the first few notes of the Strauss I immediately fell in love with the sound of the new bell. FANTASTIC! I hope they'll make it available for my Altuglass oboe as well, which I wouldn't trade for the world. Thank you Marin, and thank you Marigaux for continuing to improve instruments that are already as close to perfection as it gets.
Surprizingly, I find the old one sounds warmer and more lush. But that could be because of my office head-set : I need to listen again with better ear-phones. What you said about the balance and tuning is incredibly important.
Sorry, but I prefer the old bell. No.2 seems to sit a little sharp and the C on the staff and the lower notes aren't as warm. Bells make a difference for sure. I use a Howarth bell on my Lorée...
I like the new one better It is richer, darker. After listening to the two, I don’t like listening to the older one due to a harshness, in the video anyway. I could hear a difference.
Listened to the first recording and thought the new one sounded alot better, in the second recording i was sure the one i liked better was the new bell again..and it wasnt. I think for the average listener wont make any difference atall, the most important thing is how you feel when you play with it, even if it makes you feel 0,1% better and more confortable its worth it.
Totally agree, I personally had to write down which one is which because I personally didn't always recognize them in the recordings, they are pretty close. I prefer the new one mostly for making it easier to play on it and the very slight improvement in the sound.
Hi, in Strauss and Bizet I prefer and recognized the new one, but in Ravel and the last one I chose the old bell. Anyway in the first and second extracts I notice a difference only in the low notes which have more resonance, not too much in the upper register, but it seems to me that with the new one you have more feeling. Finally I think you play fantastic. Best regards
This is a case of your open personal preferences, you know your own sound concepts. The new bell projects more, but both are capable of mellowness . i am a Clarinetist for many years and have different barrels which produce varying tone qualities. Bells on Clarinets, especially Bakuns vary somewhat , but not as much as Oboes. Oboe is more demanding than Clarinet and ease of playing and holding the Oboe are quite important, but ultimately it's the sound that dominates. The thicker Bell would be noticeable, especially since the keys on an Oboe are higher up than on a clarinet. My first time here, you are a gifted musician. Cheers, Frederick "Rik" Spector
My impression is the new bell adds echo to the sound, which makes it more suitable for a certain repertoire. These romantic pieces shine and are more lively. On the other hand I guess I would choose the old bell for baroque. Would love to hear your thoughts on this. I’d love to make a trip to Paris with you 🇫🇷
These are some observations you have, I would agree that the old bell one has a bit more direct, bright and piercing sound that would be suitable for classical and baroque music.
Love your videos, nice to have someone say and review what we’re all thinking… also i really like your whole playing/setup, really beautiful sound.. in the strauss excerpt i actually preferred your original bell but the rest it seemed the new one was a bit richer ? Tempted to ask you to review a howarth oboe but i don’t have spares i can send🥵
New bell seems less piercing and more mellow. Nice sound. 2 grams may not sound like much, but it's at the very end of the horn, so influences beyond what you would expect. I play a Bulgheroni Opera, and think THAT is the loveliest oboe sound!
It does influence it quite a lot, it's balanced differently. I would be happy to try Bulgheroni. Also would like to believe that the loveliest sound is produced by the player rather than the instrument.
@@BeyondOboeHard to disagree, but the Bulgheroni has clearly made me a better player! I actually got the instrument from the workshop near Como about a year ago, a wonderful experience.
That's incredible! and the new one definitely sounds a bit richer I always assumed that each instrument was made from a single piece of wood as a unit, so there would be a similarity in the material and the fine alignment of the bore, but is that not the case?i
Thanks for your comment. What you say would make sense but actually no, the head joints and bells are separately selected to suit the main big part. If you get lucky you can select all of them yourself and yes it's a bit too much choice 😅
No they don't do cocobolo. I asked then for it, the answer was they will not, because the dust of cocobolo wood might affect the health of their workers. Also, it is hard to find the new bells in grenadilla. I have been Wartung for 8 months to get to try them.
Best instrument? I wonder if there was such thing. It seems to always be an iteration away from. I own a Püchner and Mönnig and the next day disproves my opinion about them. But what is better than to be happy with what you have 🍀
I totally agree! I respect the German made oboe like Ludwig Frank, Mönnig and Puncher. I played on Mönnig for a few years and it was super stable, cracking is not really an issue (you never know) and the mechanic is so well made.What I said is that overall for me personally Marigaux is the best but there is no such thing as "The Best"
