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TESTING THE RED GEMINI 

Transposition Films
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Want to download & play with some of the raw footage from the Gemini? Grab it here: tfil.ms/geminifootage
We just got a brand-new Red Gemini and took it out for a spin for a couple nights! What an incredible sensor - can't wait for the dual-ISO upgrade. We did grade the footage, but didn't denoise at all because we found the grain - even at 12,800 ISO - quite pleasing.
Thanks to Claudia Piotrowska and Hillary Young for coming out for the evening and James Healey for helping out with his lights & lenses.

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@_olliewashere
@_olliewashere 6 лет назад
Such a dope video and Great shots. I will probably get 4 of them ;)
@dxkaiyuan4177
@dxkaiyuan4177 4 года назад
RED: lets capture some nice suble shadows at night RU-vid compression: haha NOPE nice try
@PraveenKumar-fs6of
@PraveenKumar-fs6of 5 лет назад
BEAST of low light !!!
@DavidKatz
@DavidKatz 5 лет назад
Cool footage thanks for doing this
@brianmerlen6747
@brianmerlen6747 6 лет назад
thank you so much for posting this! please more low light tests esp vs arris and other reds?!
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
Hoping to do a test comparing it to our Epic-W, yes!
@joshhill9754
@joshhill9754 5 лет назад
so is all the banding and artifacts from youtube compression????
@BatBFilms
@BatBFilms 6 лет назад
Great Channel
@SYKER
@SYKER 6 лет назад
Thanks for sharing. These shots DID sold me as a music video maker mainly and a low light lover ;)
@pacosstudio412
@pacosstudio412 4 года назад
Have you ever try to use HDRX in low light mode?
@mattcoale3617
@mattcoale3617 5 лет назад
Thanks for this. Very helpful. I'm shooting with this camera next week in very low light. I'm breathing a sigh of relief.
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 5 лет назад
glad to hear it!
@dm.b7560
@dm.b7560 5 лет назад
In 5K iso noise in the shadows, at 12K even more....if we have to denoise anyways, is it worthy?
@andrewbabu4878
@andrewbabu4878 6 лет назад
Wonderful looks good for low lighting👍
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
it really is remarkable.
@NativeEarthlingAI
@NativeEarthlingAI 6 лет назад
Why is the fire green tinted?
@smoak888
@smoak888 5 лет назад
so when i first looked at your low light samples, the first thing i noticed it did not look that much different than the my scarlet w at those iso values. when i downloaded your files and placed them in redcine-x and looked at your metadata, it appears your files were not in the Low Light mode....so you were not really using the gemini's capability. could you please confirm and retest?
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 5 лет назад
smoak888 this is one of the very first Gemini’s that was only “low light” - it didn’t have dual ISO/LL switch. We had to send it back in for a free upgrade once that capability became available.
@divil2273
@divil2273 4 года назад
this was a sick video
@raredreamfootage
@raredreamfootage 6 лет назад
Is it worth shooting RAW with such high iso in low light? Would there be enough color data to work with when grading ? Would it be more efficient to use an A7Sii?
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
raredreamfootage as per my other comment, raw provides you with all the color data hitting the sensor, instead of throwing it out while compressing the footage, like an A7Sii would. More efficient to use an A7Sii... certainly in terms of file size, yes. You may be able to get an even higher ISO looking cleaner than the Gemini with an A7S. Remember, though, this is a digital cinema camera, and Red makes cameras more suited to lit and controlled scenarios. The Gemini is a big help to doc filmmakers and the like though!
@kollywoodkingss5304
@kollywoodkingss5304 5 лет назад
I tested it fantastic in low light mode
@TLFILMS
@TLFILMS 2 месяца назад
oh yeah
@ItsDPMikey
@ItsDPMikey 6 лет назад
I'm sold
@smoak888
@smoak888 5 лет назад
i wouldnt be yet...when you download their files, it looks like it wasnt captured in low light mode....
@jesusbautista4956
@jesusbautista4956 6 лет назад
Whats the song playing on the city section?
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
This one -> artlist.io/song/4207/gravity
@benwaardenburg
@benwaardenburg 6 лет назад
Neat.
@woolenwoods665
@woolenwoods665 5 лет назад
could u please tell me what background music did u use for this video?
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 5 лет назад
Glass Jaw (Bob Hart), On the Way (Ian Post), Gravity (Stanley Gurvich)
@woolenwoods665
@woolenwoods665 5 лет назад
@@transpositionfilms thx!
@tomsamuel4211
@tomsamuel4211 6 лет назад
How did you colorgrade the footage? Any lut used?
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
For the Gemini footage, we used this -> truecolor.us/news/red-to-alexa-lut-package/ For the b-roll, shot on an A6500, we used a film print emulation LUT included in Resolve, after having transformed the Slog2 gamma to a standard cineon curve using Resolve's color space transform OFX.
@tomsamuel4211
@tomsamuel4211 6 лет назад
Transposition Films thank you!
@iancarberry1829
@iancarberry1829 6 лет назад
Do you find that LUT actually looks like Alexa? I'm considering getting it.
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
Ian Carberry you know, I’m not really sure - but I do know I really, really like the colours it gets me from a Red! Probably my favourite starting point for a grade at this point, and I’ve tried many things...
@iancarberry1829
@iancarberry1829 6 лет назад
Alright looks like I've got to try it out
@raredreamfootage
@raredreamfootage 6 лет назад
5:09 - Could you still have recovered the clipped highlights in this shot? I'm trying to justify using this camera for low light. This is the only reason why I would shoot RAW in lowlight is to recover highlights to avoid clipping like on a typical DSLR.
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
raredreamfootage yes, I could have graded it down to see more of the highlights. However, you can certainly clip a Red camera: raw is no protection against that. It depends how you expose, like any other camera. Reds do have a much higher dynamic range than any SLR’s I know of, so that should help though. The image quality of raw is much higher than any 8-bit SLR can give you, which is why you would choose it.
@LudovicoBettarello
@LudovicoBettarello 6 лет назад
👍🏻 t o p ❤️
@billyjick9627
@billyjick9627 5 лет назад
This or the Helium for shooting movies? Thanks :) Awesome video
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 5 лет назад
They both have their upsides! What are you shooting?
@billyjick9627
@billyjick9627 5 лет назад
I appreciate the quick response. Movie for Netflix and I've never worked with Red before, but your video really captured some amazing images. I've only shot on the Arri Alexa Mini the last year or so and was thinking of making the switch for budget reasons. Some of the crew already have Red accessories. @@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 5 лет назад
@@billyjick9627 Very cool. Alexa Mini does put out some great images. So many cameras these days will make beautiful pictures if there is skill and talent behind them!
@omarsaeed4545
@omarsaeed4545 5 лет назад
In 12k iso it’s showing noise in the shadow just watch the video on big screen
@dm.b7560
@dm.b7560 5 лет назад
Actually at 5000 ISO too...
@zhentaolai2188
@zhentaolai2188 5 лет назад
hi people!
@dmitryduma
@dmitryduma 6 лет назад
you use ISO LL ? or standart mode ISO?
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
CHUPO anything about 3200 has to be in LL mode
@ArtLA
@ArtLA 6 лет назад
dope video please upload in 4k
@ryanlschroeder
@ryanlschroeder 6 лет назад
this video is 4K. the 2160p option is available.
@ArtLA
@ArtLA 6 лет назад
ok cool I think its safari thats not letting me see the 4k option. dope video would you consider this camera over the Epic W 8k, i currently have that camera
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 6 лет назад
Art L.A. Yep - we have an Epic-W as well and we’d seriously consider upgrading if it’s the only one we had. Dual ISO and easier workflow/higher FPS at 5K usually trumps 8K for our kind of work.
@user-pl2cn4lh6g
@user-pl2cn4lh6g 6 лет назад
OMG....FXXXXXXXXXX
@Nemastic
@Nemastic 6 лет назад
Too much ISO.
@nexuscomm5916
@nexuscomm5916 Год назад
I downloaded the Raw clips and you really didn't test the low light capabilities of the camera. The clips show that they were shot using Standard mode. If you want to test Low Light you need to switch the camera to LOW LIGHT mode. So basically you should see a 2 stop improvement noise wise.
@ryanlschroeder
@ryanlschroeder Год назад
This comment was addressed already. This was one of the first few Gemini’s that was low-light only.
@yreyes1451
@yreyes1451 Год назад
@@ryanlschroeder If the camera was stuck for some reason in Low Light only mode then Gemini is not a great low light camera then...... As another commenter said, Noise amount looks very similar to Dragon at the same ISO values and thats not what RED claims. They claim a 2 stop improvement over dragon. I would say that the camera if anything, was stuck on STANDARD mode.
@RockstarCinema
@RockstarCinema 2 месяца назад
A Sony fx3 could do a better a job lol I do love the Gemini but Red in General suck in low light
@transpositionfilms
@transpositionfilms 2 месяца назад
lol - this was 2018. The FX3 was released three years later, in 2021.
@AlexDerrick_DP
@AlexDerrick_DP 6 лет назад
the shots at native ISO 3200 look OK. Everything higher doesn't have the organic look of typical red 800ISO footage. They just ripped the idea of a dual circuit from Panasonic Varicam but didn't take the time to figure out how to get the sensor texture at 3200 to look organic. That color noise does not look beautiful.
@kyleroberts9738
@kyleroberts9738 6 лет назад
Completely agree..not digging the way it looks at higher ISO's at all.
@AlexDerrick_DP
@AlexDerrick_DP 6 лет назад
Kyle Roberts good b camera for a Varicam
@kyleroberts9738
@kyleroberts9738 6 лет назад
I'd rather use the EVA1 from what I've seen. The big Varicam is amazing for sure!
@AlexDerrick_DP
@AlexDerrick_DP 6 лет назад
Kyle Roberts the Eva has the same issue as the Gemini. As the pixels go up the texture of the sensor becomes less organic looking and the size of the files also increase unnecessarily. 4k is the sweet spot. And yes the Varicam is a master camera.
@mgr5550
@mgr5550 4 года назад
Much talk. Little test.
@MisterDoge
@MisterDoge 5 лет назад
Red > Arri like if you agree
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