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I was thinking the same thing as I saw vehicles go right by without stopping! It is a dog eat dog world but thankful there are still real humans with compassion that stopped and ran to give help!
If people aren't involved in the wreck, other people have stopped, and they panic in emergency situations it's honestly better if they just keep going because they are only going to make a bad situation worse.
Not everyone wants to be scarred for life, I get it but I think that’s a valid thing. You’ll never get that out of your head and it will affect you for life.
What would you suggest be done? Put a jersey wall the length of every hiway in America? How would you ever make a left turn? People just need to pay attention, and be held accountable when they fvck up.
As a firefighter I can say that it is best that some people DO NOT stop to help. We had a rule that you do not become part of the problem at hand. As I was helping a driver out though a windshield of a utility truck he had rolled over a woman in flip flops enters the scene with good intentions but cuts both her feet on all the glass in the road. She just became part of the problem. Some resources now went to helping her. The good hearted people who are stopping to help are in a degree of shock as to what they have just witnessed. Their thinking and response is effected by this. Some people will do exactly the right thing in this situation though most will not. The folks driving by may be best for what has happened. Some folks know they can not contribute to this accident. Keeping going may be the best thing for those that do know what needs to be done.
If a vehicle is on fire and there a lots of kids in it, which is the case here. No one driving by knew if the bus was or we ould be on fire. They needed multiple people to remove those kids from the bus. I disagree with you. They should have stopped to help. PERIOD
Respectfully… Only medical/trauma professionals should be moving people in an accident like that, unless they’re ambulatory on their own. And even then, your adrenaline is pumping and you don’t realize how seriously you maybe injured. I agree it’s very frustrating to watch someone drive by an accident like that but it was probably for the best… A well meaning person with no medical or trauma medicine experience could injure someone by moving them when they’ve been in an accident like that. They could cause someone with a neck or back injury to be paralyzed or someone with internal bleeding to bleed out faster resulting in their death. I’d listen to the Firefighter…
If they are unable or unwilling to help, then they should have just pulled over to the side of the road. By driving around the accident they are in the way of people and vehicles coming to render aid, and creating traffic congestion and delays.
@@MM-km5zf ‘IF’ the vehicle was on fire… But the vehicle wasn’t on fire, thank you Lord. But don’t think for a minute that, ‘IF’ you hurt someone moving them from an accident scene, as well meaning as it may be, the victims insurance company will come after you. Unfortunately, that’s the world we live in today… I trained with SF medics and combat medics in the Army and was a Red Cross certified CPR, First Aid and Safety instructor. People don’t realize how easily you can further injure someone if you don’t know what you’re doing. Not to mention, possibly injuring or incapacitating yourself adding to the complexity of the scene once the professionals arrive. I definitely think you should stop and render the aid you can. Just be smart and ‘IF’ you can wait on the professionals, then wait…
I just saw this on the news again and they mentioned the bus was filled with 41 kindergartners and a 5 yr old and the another driver died. Then they went on to say the cement driver admitted he had done cocaine and marijuana earlier that morning. WTH is wrong with people? I recall when I worked as an unemployment adjudicator and this person attempted to get unemployment benefits because they were let go and the employer claimed they were using drugs which was discovered after he had an accident while on the job driving a city truck. He was already on his final warning and was in a last chance program. This guy was 25 yrs old making over $100k per year and bought a house when he was 21 yrs old. When his test results came back it was positive for drug use. As much as he tried to plead his case that he had not used any drugs the tests do not bring back false positives because we do a hair test. This guy was unable to stop doing drugs in order to save his employment. It was the most frustrating case to manage. He must have been addicted to marijuana because that is what it came back positive for. I felt bad for the guy but he was denied benefits. He was driving this huge public works truck and could have injured someone besides himself. SMH.
Unless something had changed I was simply going by what the news had reported at the time. There was an adult killed in another vehicle yes? @@JoeV-k5r
Who told you that urine tests are 100% accurate, they absolutely can be wrong, and just because something is "in your system" means nothing, marijuana stays for 30 days. You're done being hi in a few hours.
@@crudedickweed260 In this situation the truck driver would have had his blood drawn and the sample would have been evaluated through GCMS, and that's 100% accurate. I won't be surprised if he's charged with murder instead of vehicular homicide.
True, the camera is not 360 or even 180 degrees. Also, if, say, 10 cars normally pass that point of the road every minute, and if every one of those cars stops, then over the course of 15 minutes, 150 cars will have stopped. In 30 minutes, the number will rise to 300 cars stopped on the road. Is it a good idea for 300 cars and all their occupants to be clogging the road and blocking emergency vehicles? Probably not. The pitchfork people are so d-u-m-b.
@@damirzanne Did you want to say something intelligent? Enough people clearly stopped; it's handled. More people and emergency responders might take even longer than 30-45 minutes. You will not provide a new skill that is not already there. Move along and watch it on the news, quit being selfish.
PLEASE keep in mind that some people are but physically able to help, have no idea what to do, can't handle the sight of blood, injuries, etc, have children in their car, have to be at work on time or they'll be fired or written up( some employers don't care!!!) so better off that some people drive by and call 911. Others that are capable PLEASE stop and help
Good points. Maybe they went further up the road to stop traffic and keep the area clear? If traffic backs up, it can keep rescue workers from making it to the scene.
I would bet both houses and my annual salary that not one single person has ever been fired for being late using the excuse "a school bus flipped over and I stopped to render assistance".
@@joesmith9216 lol you'd drive by an overturned bus full of kids and say "not my problem not getting involved". you're an absolute coward. you dont have a man in your entire family.
Thats not the worst thing you could have done, you are an untrained civilian that likely would have just been in the way. I can't judge you for knowing your place.
Quite a few people stopped to help which is good. Not EVERYBODY CAN stop. Cluttering up the area so emergency vehicles/choppers can get to the site isn't needed, a lot of patients so a lot of EMT's needed. Very sad circumstances, thoughts to both the families.
As a retired redimix truck driver it would behoove the ISP to take special interest in all these operators due to the fact so many concrete jobs are being done at midnight with those involved not getting the hours rest needed and possibly using stimulants or drugs to keep going. Especially the pump operators, most are coming from one job and have just enough time to set up for the next. Condolences to the families who are effected from this tragedy 🙏
We have a redimix concrete business just outside our central OH village and their drivers are the biggest traffic violators as I’ve personally seen them blow thru red lights and as a firefighter, have been on several accidents involving their trucks.
And then 1st responders would have been able to reach the scene of the accident in a few hours rather than minutes... you clearly haven't quite thought this thru friend. 😕
@@michaelshrader5139 that highway is 4 lane with shoulders. Trunk drivers know how to set in place for emergency vehicles. Who knew if children would start running out in the road. Sorry for you that I do think and have been in similar situations. Tho never with a school bus full of children.
Lionel Hutz: In our defense your honor my client smoked pot last night got a few hours of sleep and was high on cocaine that morning when the accident occured. In complete honesty he also refused a blood draw at the scene. I rest my case.
30 years ago a cement truck driver fell asleep and went through an intersection and killed at least 5 to 7 people. I remember it like it was yesterday nothings changed.
For those who commented that other cars should have stopped as well, I would like to point out as one of the commenters here said this will create a big problem as traffic has to flow as much as possible. Otherwise, rescue might be difficult. If enough people stopped to help that should be enough. More people doesn't mean more help. It can cause completely the opposite intention
Careful, we dont see the other side of the bus or past what the camera sees. They could have pulled past to park safely past the bus, then come back to help.
@@blondbear2-- Indeed, current _"best practice"_ is to do exactly that: Pull past the scene, then as far over to the right as safely possible. This helps ensure that emergency responses are not impeded upon arrival, and that you are able to leave after giving any necessary statements to police. That said, it appears that some of these drivers were not planning to stop.
@@iamjackscompletelackofsurp9606 That's 1 possibility... I'm sure investigators will check his cell phone activity log to find out. Driver could have just as easily been sleepy however. We really should wait and see what the investigation finds before claiming any reason for this accident. I'm just saying.
in the audio all you hear (aside from the crash sounds) is the bus driver screaming briefly I actually saw it first with no context and had no idea there were 2 fatalities, it looked fairly tame. Shows how unsafe school busses are, what with most of them having no seatbelts (or at least most didn't when I was in school 2003-2016)
It's absolutely amazing the number of accident reconstructionist, attorneys and medical professionals commenting on this video, that are frankly very wrong😂😂 First of all if you pay attention to the video the bus driver had less than a second to fully react, and they did start to react so trying to lay blame on the bus driver in any way shape or form is actually very disgusting. Secondly there's not enough video to be able to tell for sure who actually did stop and who didn't stop . And the fact that you're making judgments about people you don't know anything about tells me that you're a horrible person at heart. If you're not medically trained or a first responder, the best thing you can do is to dial 911 and call for help. You don't know if those drivers that you assume drove on or even capable of helping. They could be elderly there's any number of reasons why they didn't stop and justifiably so. And very lastly but very importantly, it is not a crime to drive past an accident scene. There is absolutely no duty to stop and render Aid at an accident scene if you are not involved in that accident. The statute people keep trying to throw up only applies if you're actually involved in the accident. So if you're not a trained first responder, or at least calm and rational you probably shouldn't stop, because you're just going to get in the way. And the fact that so many people are commenting so many disgusting opinions really really makes me sad, that there are so many horrible and hateful people out there
My husband was a 25 yr veteran with our local police department. He never stopped when there was an accident and people were assisting. He said without proper training, which he didn't have, you never offer medical assistance because you could do more harm than good. It just opens the door for a lawsuit no matter what you did or didn't do.
It's obvious the cement pump truck driver was driving distracted. As many if not most are on Texas highways. What's unbelievable is the 3 vehicles that had to weave around the crash to get wherever they had to go.
Reading some comments on here, it seems a lot of people don't seem to know that by stopping you are making it harder for the Emergency workers to get to the scene and do their job.
All those who are complaining about those not stopping, just give it up. You sound silly. There were plenty of people who stopped. Those who didn't were only going to be in the way. When you congest an accident scene it only makes it more difficult for emergency vehicles to reach the victims. Let's be real here
Buses like to get stuck on train tracks ever try to run down the aisle and unbuckle 50 kids in 30 seconds. The school buses typically will absorb the impact enough for you to walk away from 99% of accidents as long as it wasn't going faster than the mandated 55MPH. Even in this case almost everyone that wasn't in the impact area walked off the bus with minor injuries.
@@greyfox78569 Worst case scenario would be in the event of fire. How do you unbuckle 40-50 kids and get them off the bus. It almost seems like a catch 22 situation. Either way could cost lives.
@@brianmcdonald6519 I actually did school bus training kids are way more likely to be run over by the bus, or a car passing recklessly than killed on it, by like 10,000% ratio. Your kid is safe on the bus, the second they step off it different story.
For all of the comments about people not stopping, take a step back and breathe. You are assuming that each of those people are fully functioning healthy adults. What if a person has a heart condition, is diabetic, a cast on their arm etc? The road is not conducive to have all those vehicles stop. I myself have days where it’s tough making it up a single flight of stairs. While I would stop I would be more likely be in the way than be helpful. My vehicle would be just taking up space, as would I.
Thank you, I've been posting the same thing. I mean some of those people may have been elderly and knew that they would be of no help. Some of them could suffer from PTSD and know that they would be of no help. There's literally thousands of reasons why they didn't and probably shouldn't stop. And one last reason, I spent over 20 years working as a paramedic, and I can't tell you how many bystanders I saw a guy get injured because they were trying to do the right thing. And unfortunately I even saw a fellow first responder lose her life because of people not paying attention
Reading the comments about those vehicles that went around the bus wreck and left... y'all, it is NOT a requirement that ANYBODY and EVERYBODY that witnesses an auto accident has to "stop and render aid"! IF you aren't a part of the accident (as in, your vehicle you are driving was not a part of the accident you just saw or otherwise came up on), you do not have to stop or render aid. If you are a 1st responder, then it may be your job or duty to stop and render aid but again... the law in Texas to *my knowledge* only states that a driver must stop and attempt to render aid IF you were a part of the accident. What some other people are saying in the comments here, is just ridiculous.... you can't require every motorist on the road that sees or comes upon an accident to stop immediately and attempt to render aid by state law, the 1st responders would never be able to reach the accident scene if that were the case! smh! 😕If you aren't a part of the accident, and you have no 1st responder skills to help the victims of an accident, then by all means get out of the way!
The first vehicle (the black truck) yes... one questions why they wouldn't even slow down. They need to be found and taken in for a 72 hour evaluation to determine if they are a danger to society (they are) or not. As for the other vehicles (the truck w/ trailer, semi) there were already a LOT of vehicles stopped so it made little sense for them to just further clog things up.
@@amzarnacht6710are you serious? Found and taken in for a 72 hr evaluation to see if they are a danger to society just because they didn't stop . I think your the one who need to do the 72 hr evaluation .
@@amzarnacht6710 yes, at least if the person would have slowed down, but it seemed that they were rushing to prevent from being held back because of the accident : (
As a professional truck driver for the last 27 years, I want to offer what I saw in the video and give my perspective. First, this a sad tragedy and what I am going to say isn't meant to diminish the tragedy at all. 1. As a professional driver, we are taught to look well ahead, and anticipate the actions of others and the possible outcomes. This includes oncoming lanes especially when there isn't a center divider to mitigate crossing into opposing lanes of travel. In effect, we play the "what if" game all day. 2. I can fit my 8 and half foot wide semi all the way over that fog line and be just fine. I am a Texas truck driver and I've had to hit the shoulder to avoid head on collisions far too many times. The bus driver recognized the hazard far too late, didn't move far enough over, hit the brakes hard, turning the steering wheel, which guaranteed the roll over. I clearly wasn't there, nor do I have access to any information from the DPS Troopers doing the investigation. However, with the number of miles that I have traveled, I feel fairly safe in my assessment. What remains to be seen is, was the driver having a medical episode, driving distracted, or did he/she fall asleep and drift into the opposing lanes of travel? Driving is a full time activity that requires full time attention. You need to pay full attention, otherwise you may end up paying a terrible price.
@@ulisesorozco7939, thanks for telling us you don’t know what a professional driver is, without telling us. Every CDL is looked at as a professional, that’s why we are held to a higher standard. Come talk to us when you can can get the burger and cheese centered on the bun.
Thanks for the info but the bus drivers had milliseconds to anticipate the truck moving into his lane. No one drives thinking bozo is riding in the middle or still moving to his opposite lane. Again, it happens in milliseconds. The truck driver could have done better. By resting if he's tired pull over. If he is texting, he will have two deaths hanging over him. If he was distracted, eating, etc. he failed miserably. No excuses. (I usually watch my distance with 18 wheelers but now it will be everyone. I have been driving myself many miles at odd hours. God's grace.) RIP
@missgramirez4446 I interesting fact: When cops retire, they are often asked to consult as accident reconstruction specialists. Why? The reason is that they have seen the same or similar accidents thousands of times. 1. I studied law enforcement when I was in college and had a lot of really cool classes like how to conduct a collision investigation. 2. I've been driving large trucks for 27 years. I recognize hazards even before they become hazards so I can avoid them. This is what is called anticipating a driver's actions. 3. The bus driver didn't have milliseconds to react they failed to react. The bus driver is responsible for other human beings in his/her care. Consequently, that bus driver needed to be looking far enough in advance and preparing for what they would do if someone cut them off, lost control, or came them head on. BTW, I have had every one of those scenarios play out in front of many times. 4. Learning to see bad scenarios before they happen is how to keep from being in those scenarios.
Stop trying to get attention for yourself by trying to be as provocative as you can be, inder the guise of "caring." There is ZERO reason to write a comment like that, other then to try to bother people even more. Its gross. Its disrespectful.
People bitching about people driving by are fools, you call 911, your not a first responder, you move someone with a broken back you'll paralyze them, let the professionals do their job.
True, but holding C-Spine can save them from being paralyzed or save their life. If someone is bleeding, holding pressure could save their life. If they are going into shock, holding their feet up can save their life. If they are not breathing, CPR can save their life. Figuring out who is injured can save the firefighters and EMTs time. Gaining entry to the bus can save time later. I've had some training. Including a mass casualty bus collision. Step 0: assess safety. Step 1. Figure out who is walking wounded. This can take as little as 30 seconds. Step 2: gather a few of these or bystanders as volunteers. Step 3: assess each remaining patient as to status and what they need. Assign a volunteer a volunteer to do what is needed. Hold C-Spine, pressure on a serious bleed, CPR, Keep them calm... This will take a few seconds per patient. And, no, what I've said here is insufficient for training purposes. One of the guys I used to work with is an ex firefighter, and carried an amazing first aid kit in his car - including a couple of air splints and a dozen neck braces among other things . One accident I stopped at had another person that also stopped that was a volunteer firefighter from a different town. He had extraction tools, a backboard and a neck brace available for the driver. Each person has their own skills, abilities, and disabilities.
People so quick to judge people driving on. Yet aren’t there or have any clue of that person can handle that type of situation or even help or hinder. Stop judging people y’all don’t know.
There were no professionals on scene the moment the accident occurred. There were a few folks who witnessed the accident but opted to keep driving. I can never assume their reasoning and it’s a free country ~ but damn
Our Hearts and Prayers are with the Hays CISD parents, their children, the grieving families who lost their loved one on that tragic day and the school bus driver. May the little angel and man who lost their lives forever RIP 🙏
It seems more people are angry a truck drove by than the guy who caused the accident by not paying attention, it's wild. You guys act like he's just as guilty when he did the right thing. Cause I would drive by too. I'm not a first responder, that's a 40+ passenger bus, wtf would I do but get in the way? Think and use your brain.
well since you would g contribute to lifesaving measures, by all means - keep driving. But driving through a crash scene can also be considered a crime if you destroy any evidence needed in an investigation. Turn around before you drive over any of the good Samaritans who were trying to help!
THERE IS NO REASON FOR THAT TRUCK DRIVE TO BE IN THE LEFT LANE. UNLESS HE IS TRING TO SPEED PASS. WAS BOTH HIS HANDS EVEN ON THE STEERING WHEEL, 9 and 3. Surely the truck had cameras.
Some people have to go to work or they will get fired or maybe that have an emergency too(take semi truck drivers.they never stop for anything) but I agree
@BigAmericanDream if they'll be fired for that then that means they're habitual bullshitters. It's not their 1st or 2nd time being really late. They'll eventually be fired, might as well not be a shit human being and save some lives. If they fire you for that? Eeeaaaasy way to make a news story and get a better job from those who see the story.
damn the looks like the cement truck driver must have fallen asleep, this highway always terrifies, leaving to work in the morning going to austin i never know if the oncoming traffic will swerve in my lane... ugh and losing a child no less..
Gob blessed everyone involved in that crash, hope and pray everyone made it out alive ! But, why do some people think that everyone needs to stop and help ? Sometime you're just in the way. Plus we don't know if the people that just kept driving had a broken leg or a medical condition. Now did we ?
You are required to stop! Failure to render aid is a criminal charge. Furthermore, as a CDL driver, I'm required to stop if it is safe for me to do so, and help to the extent that I can. I am required, at a minimum, to report the accident, relay what I see, and get resources rolling. I am to stay on the scene until help arrives, give my statement, and not leave until I am released. There are a lot of people who are operating motor vehicles illegally and won't stop for fear of their own consequences.
A lot of people suggesting everyone should have stopped. Would you expect everyone on the roadway to park right there creating a possible pileup situation? And what if 100 motorists did stop to help? Now you have vehicles parked everywhere, obstructing incoming emergency vehicles, and 100 people running around yelling. The vast majority of whom are not trained in first aid or CPR. So really what would be the practical purpose of everyone stopping to “help”?
I don't know exactly what caused that truck to Veer over into that oncoming Lane. However as a professional driver myself I can tell you this these new trucks when you hit the gas pedal it does not give you power immediately, you are only requesting power, and that makes these trucks deadly. I was taught if you have a blowout, in order to keep the tire from dragging you off the road or into oncoming traffic, you go to full power, however these new trucks will not give you that power when you need it, they need to outlaw this BS with these computers taking away the driver's ability to control the vehicle safely, this will happen more and more often trust me, the Cummins engine in particular is the worst for this. Take your foot off the accelerator put your foot back on count to 10 before that thing will even begin to give you power back
That sounds like the couple of trucks I drove with variable vane turbos. When you let off it dumps all the pressure out of the turbo and takes several seconds to build it back up. That's one reason I liked the older twin turbo cat engines. You had power whenever you needed it.
Good Samaritan laws protect anyone that helps someone injured as long as they stay within general knowledge or if their training exceeds general knowledge, they stay within their training and the volunteer accepts nothing in return. In your case, the school system was afraid of lawsuits, but they could also be sued for failing to allow anyone to help. I may not be an EMT, but I have enough training to cope till they get there. COR, first aid, wilderness first aid, building and vehicle evacuation, and mass casualty events.
@@johnmcleodvii Not all jurisdictions have good samaritan laws. And multiple lawsuits are on the books for well-intending 'good samaritans' getting successfully sued because they either caused additional problems (i.e. causing additional injuries in the course of a rescue, etc) or they failed to save someone's life (i.e. they were CPR-certified and did everything right but were unable to save the casualty). People are petty and always looking for scapegoats when there sometimes isn't anyone to blame. Obviously there is someone to blame in this event, but that isn't always the case.
@@davidkeith3920 All 50 states and the District of Columbia have good Samaritan laws. Some countries (most of the EU) have duty to aid laws on the books. Duty to aid is actually stronger than good Samaritan laws. Duty to aid says you can be taken to court for not stopping to render aid. But not all countries in the world protect volunteers that attempt to help. Where there are good Samaritan laws or duty to aid laws, lawsuits against the volunteers should be extremely short.
As a school bus driver, watching this video is chilling. First, I have to disagree with the "biblicaltruths ..." assessment. What I see from the forward looking dash cam, looks like the concrete pump truck not just crossing the centerline, but sideswiping the bus just ahead of the rear axle, performing what could be called a head-on or oncoming pitt maneuver. Remember, the oncoming cement pump truck landed on the side of the ro occupied by oncoming traffic. The driver of the truck never recovered control of the truck, but continued and crossed the path of any oncoming traffic before he rolled (based on the post-accident photos I had seen).
Two people were killed. *A 5 year old boy* & a man that was driving behind the school bus. This is why states like Florida FOR EXAMPLE have seatbelts on all their busses to protect passengers riding from harm in flipovers and big wrecks like this.
Unless you have some type of medical, mechanical, physical, or life saving experience or equipment, you shouldn't stop at a crash. However, that black truck that immediately sped around the wreck was just reckless
It's simple really. Because we have as voters and parents have not demanded it. An executive order by POTUS could likely fix this with the stroke of a pen. If Biden did it tomorrow, Fox News and MAGA would be whining about states rights tomorrow. Sad damn truth.
There are in Texas. Check Beaumont for a start, which bought SafeGuard seats after their tragedy. Of course, the seatbelts don't work unless you use them.
there are many articles out there with this debate, and the general consensus is that seat belts wouldn't add any amount of safety to an already safe school bus. There's too many issues ranging from students not being able to take them off, to students not keeping them off. We're already struggling with students standing up or switching seats while the bus is moving, we can't ensure every kid wears a seat belt. Also, compartmentalization isn't a law, it's science.
I witnessed one where a driver lost control, turned sideways and headed to an embankment on the right, flipping the car. Big rig driver applies brakes causing large cloud of skid smoke, stopping just short of the car on its roof. I drove past, parked on the shoulder and stayed in my car. Behind about a dozen exiting their vehicles to assist. As it turned out I was the only one to call 911.
My initial reaction was the same thing, but we don’t know that they didn’t have an infant in the vehicle, that they’re disabled, etc. Sometimes the best thing people can do is get out of the way for the people that CAN physically help.
I remember watching a video of the Joplin, Missouri tornado. Some man wouldn't get out of his vehicle to help because he was afraid he might see somebody badly mangled. Even first responders use their response time to mentally prepare themselves for the difficult job they are rushing to. Some people have the courage to help in them to help and some don't. And it's best they stay out of the way.
Careful, we dont see the other side of the bus or past what the camera sees. They could have pulled past to park safely past the bus, then come back to help.
@@kazithecanecorso2724. Wow! Your ignorance is astounding! She is letting you know that she’s around children everyday. She invests a lot into children on a daily basis. She’s expressing her heartfelt empathy and compassion for what just happened. And your ignorant, shameful, arrogant comment is contemptuous. Why did you feel that you had to comment like that?
Here in Pheonix, AZ the ubers have no drivers, its all automated, they should implement this for all commerical operated trucks. It will save lifes and save companies money.
The fact the entire bus went to a barrel roll and they almost never have seat belts, I cannot imagine what was it like in the interior. Prayers to all these people.
Like the first asshat in the pick up that clearly seen the accident happen and then even drove on the wrong side of the road to get around it and continue on. What a douchenozzle !!!
Careful, we dont see the other side of the bus or past what the camera sees. They could have pulled past to park safely past the bus, then come back to help.
@@blondbear2 You won't convince me that first Black looking Ford Pick Up pulled past the bus and parked. The angle alone tells me he kept moving on. However, I'd love to be proved wrong and would like to know that humanity is better than that.
For all of you idiots saying the bus driver is: Old, slow reaction, ect... Semi(concrete pumper) didn't cross the line until 0:43 1\2 sec... Collision @ 0:44 1\2 seconds into the video! 1.0 seconds is not enough time for the reactions all of you are saying what should have been done. The pulling to the right is exactly what time could have allowed to happen. The pump truck driver is totally at fault. Whether inattentive, phone, medical issues or whatever. Hard to say. But I slow-moed the video & it looks like the driver has his right arm up towards the center of the cab(adjusting radio, grab drink, pick up phone! Who knows exactly). As far as the "Black Truck" everyone is hollering at... Do you know if he stopped on other side & helped out? No! Stop being a Karen! The pickup w\trailer & semi flatbed shouldn't stop! Because they will be BLICKING access to scene for EMS personnel! So all of you keyboard warriors & Monday morning quarterback's really need to think about your words before you type it out. None of you honestly know what happened unless you were really there. I know there's going to be some asshat who says they were there(but lives 1500 miles away)....
There's still a possibility that they're... 1. calling 911 2. Have a disability like Vasovagal syncope, where they pass out at the sight of blood, or extreme emotional stress. And would be unable to help or be useful if they stopped, and just be in the way. 3. They had their own child/ren on board and wanted to keep their distance from their witness of the accident, while also potentially doing #1. But yeah, there's only a few other possibilities that would make that action okay.
That’s terrible 😞 I’m just keeping those families in my prayers that lost there loved ones that day they cement truck should’ve pay attention matter fact he should lose his license because what he doesn’t know he’s killed a little boy and the bus driver I’m thankful for our law enforcement officers ems. And other people that helped with terrible accident
Kudos to the people who offered immediate assistance!!! The insensitive, ignorant, arrogant ice-holes that drive on by with an apparent "not my problem, I have someplace else I need to be" attitude are disgusting. No, I have no tolerance for people who see others in desperate need and do nothing.
I have no tolerance for people to jump to conclusions, so if it's an 80 year old grandma she is an "insensitive, ignorant, arrogant ice-hole" ? or a 16 year old new driver on thier way home from school? someone who is late for work and may lose their job because their work dosen't care what may have happend on the way in? get over yourself
Concrete truck driver was operating on 3 hours of sleep. Smoked marijuana at 10pm then woke up at 1am for his shift and consumed cocaine in an effort to wake him up.
I'd say so. That's an NTSB requiremnt for any CDL driver. The bus driver too would have had to have been tested also. It's the Federal law. And it's typically a blood draw, not a urine test. They'll even test for perscription medication, especially in a fatality accident.
@@jimbeam2705 I'd have to agree sir. Though not their fault, there was time and plenty of shoulder to scoot over and turn it into a close call rather than a fatal accident. You'd think a bus driver would have some DEFENSIVE DRIVER training and know how to handle such an incident considering all the lives they have in their hands. However, I'd still hate to throw some guilt onto that driver. I have a feeling they feel it anyway. They too have to realize they could have avoided it.
@@jimbeam2705 Like almost all drivers bus drivers aren’t going to be perfect. We don’t know anything about their personal life or what they might’ve been going through. Plus they likely feel enough guilt as it is, let’s not pin the blame on them, at least until we know further details.
FYI, in Texas, it is a second degree felony for failure to stop and render aid. Punishable by up to five years imprisonment, up to $5000 fine, and suspension of drivers license. I hope the license plates of those vehicles that didn’t stop are legible on the dashcam.
No, it isn't FYI! If you are not *involved* in the accident then you have no legal obligation to stop or attempt to render aid in Texas. If you have proof otherwise, please post the applicable state law... I got my info from an attorney I had to retain after I was involved in a wreck in Porter, TX in 2003, and I asked my attorney about just this thing after 2 "witnesses" came up well AFTER I was involved in an accident claiming to have seen everything (even though they had not been there till almost an hour after the wreck, and didn't even know which direction the 2 vehicles involved in my wreck had been heading when they collided). I pointed this out to my attorney, who told me that nobody has any legal obligation to stop or render aid in Texas unless they were actually involved in the accident. Otherwise, can you just imagine the chaos that would ensue if EVERY vehicle like on I45 in downtown Houston had to stop and attempt to render aid every time there was an accident there??? 1st Responders would never make it to the accident scene!
@@michaelshrader5139 The crime of failure to stop and render aid under Tex. Transp. Code § 550.021 is charged as a third-degree felony if it can be proven that serious bodily injury results from the accident. A conviction for a third degree felony carries between 2 and 10 years in jail and up to $10,000 in fines. The crime of failure to stop and render aid is a second-degree felony if it is proven that death results from the accident. A second degree felony in Texas is punishable by 2-20 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.
@@theheartoftexas That only applies if you're involved in the accident. I thought otherwise too before looking into it minutes ago. "There is no good Samaritan law in Texas mandating that witnesses render aid, even in emergency situations"
FJM Concrete pumping truck... The bus driver could have avoided the collision entirely if they had better reaction / attention as there was plenty of shoulder and plenty of time to see it coming... According to court documents, 42-year-old Jerry Hernandez was the driver of the concrete pumper truck that crashed into a school bus full of pre-K students last week and admitted that he only got three hours of sleep the night before, and he consumed cocaine the morning of the collision, and marijuana the night before, according to court documents. So this was DUI of Cocaine, manslaughter... In addition, the employer can also be liable for his operators exceeding driving hours per day without rest... Texas' current hours of service rules include the following: A driver must have 8 consecutive hours off duty before beginning a shift. After 8 hours off duty, a truck driver may only be on duty for 15 consecutive hours. Drivers may only stay on the road for up to 12 consecutive hours. A person may not operate a motor vehicle if the person's alertness or ability to operate the vehicle is impaired for any reason, including fatigue or illness, to the extent that it is not safe for the person to begin or to continue.
I think the bus driver probably thought the truck was changing lanes until it got near the centerline. then its 1-1.5 seconds to the correction and almost immediate impact. thats about as fast of a reaction as you can get.
Hold to hold a company liable for non rest if they are using timesheets. The time is provided, but the driver didn't observe the rest period. Additionally if he's using drugs that might be hard for the company to determine on a specific time: cocaine doesn't last long in the system, but the marijuana does last longer in the system for detection purposes. I would bet this driver is relatively new to the company.
What I see is the bus driver was not at fault but he or she didn’t take any evasive action, the truck would’ve side swipe the bus if the head on collision would have been avoided
It is easy to say this from your keyboard. But it happened in milliseconds and the bus driver probably didn't expect that truck driver to keep coming towards him. Sometimes drivers like to ride the lane real close but when it happens so fast sometimes you don't have time to react quicker.
Actually you're very wrong and your assessment. A quick review of the video shows that you really first see the oncoming truck at about 43 seconds. At 44 1/2 seconds you can definitely tell they are coming across the center line. At 45 and 1/2 seconds is when the impact happened. The bus driver had less than one second to react, and yet they did react by moving to the right as much as they possibly could. You also have to remember this is a large vehicle and you can't Jerk it around like you could a car or pickup truck
@@missgramirez4446 I have driven tractor trailer for almost 34 years, and several million miles on my belt, I don’t see things from a keyboard, I don’t expect drivers to react or understand my point of view, I speak from my own experience, when you are on the road constantly you have to expect the unexpected
Have ever driven a school bus? One cannot make a radical movement or you will roll it, especially when the tire leaves the pavement, even a 2 inch drop from pavement to dirt is a significant danger.
@@katatbatI drive school buses, transit buses, and have driven various other commercial vehicles for most of my adult life. This accident could’ve been prevented by the bus driver, although they clearly aren’t at fault. I avoid accidents like this almost daily driving down tight roads in North Carolina. At the point where the truck started to drift over the center line the bus driver could’ve cut the wheel to avoid contact. I hate to be a Monday morning QB but it definitely could’ve been done. This does not say whether or not the bus driver may have been tending to an issue on the bus and looking in the student mirror at the time of the collision (which is why it should be federal law to have bus monitors on board every school bus to deal with students while the driver drives).
#Austin American-Statesman; This is all very upsetting. Thank you for telling the truth and giving us these video facts. The Bus driver herself was like a driver in an Indy Car Malaya. She took the absolute correct evasive action, saving so many of these Kids lives, and her own. Please make sure she knows it. I watched it in super slow motion, and at 400 Yards out she moved right 2 inches... 3, inches, 4, 5, and 18 to 24 more keeping from a much more massive impact. Make it pay for her America... she moved over about 4 feet after seeing him half a mile out, closing rate 120
I can't get past the idiots that don't consider the possablity that they stopped on the other side, or might have been someone physically unable to do anything
One of the worst 911 calls I’ve taken in my career. Hearing the kids scream and people yelling about the injuries and bus roll over. Later I took a call from the deceased drivers mom looking to see if he was involved since he was late picking his kids up. I hope the driver of the cement truck gets life or worse. My heart breaks for all the kids and families.
I am flabbergasted at the ppl driving by a badly wrecked SCHOOL BUS!! What is wrong with ppl?! Are they in that big of a hurry that they're willing to let children die? Ugh.. disgusting
looks like bus driver had a few seconds to try & avoid him but was too late😢 no matter the situation, no baby should have to have lived this after having such a fun day.. i honestly think the law enforcement should always stop them & check on the drivers to make sure theyve had enough sleep & arent driving on 0 sleep..
