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[TF2 15.ai] The Mercs Argue Over Fallout NV Factions 

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@SwoleSorcerer
@SwoleSorcerer 2 года назад
Part 2 is up. The Mercs Argue over Fallout 4: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7gWCohjkG5g.html&ab_channel=ToTheMax
@ammarslhim7934
@ammarslhim7934 2 года назад
Medic is based
@nuclearmonster8084
@nuclearmonster8084 2 года назад
I will litterally pay you 30$ if you make this exact video but with dark souls covidents
@SwoleSorcerer
@SwoleSorcerer 2 года назад
@@nuclearmonster8084 15.ai is down again so we're unfortunately going to have to wait another eight months
@nuclearmonster8084
@nuclearmonster8084 2 года назад
@@SwoleSorcerer Bad RNG name of the game bro
@ha2vard27
@ha2vard27 2 года назад
elijah ending best ending
@afruitshopowner3307
@afruitshopowner3307 2 года назад
"The entire fanbase of a 11 years old game" the video.
@nillynush4899
@nillynush4899 2 года назад
At least it is stuff you can debate about, try having deep convos with a yearly EA sports consoomer... it can't be done.
@bee2bee880
@bee2bee880 2 года назад
I mean, Team Fortress 2 has a 14 year old fanbase. Surprised there isn't more TF2/New Vegas stuff considering there already was a crossover back in 2010.
@ooee6383
@ooee6383 2 года назад
Politics for zoomers
@teajoy436
@teajoy436 2 года назад
Lmfao, ok, fallout 4 zoomer
@Blank55600
@Blank55600 2 года назад
Yeeeeep
@Bean_Can_
@Bean_Can_ 2 года назад
Scout is into the think tank as a faction because the stealth suit is his girlfriend. And that is exactly why he is the only correct one.
@paulvallee6600
@paulvallee6600 2 года назад
Honestly I see him more as being apart of The Kings or Powder Gang. Kings being with his egotistic ‘bad boy’ personality and Powder Gang being ‘cause he’s most likely gonna get his ass arrested from the NCR due to his idiocy or something along the lines of that.
@darkraiking555
@darkraiking555 2 года назад
SCOUT IS LITERALLY ME
@davemiller638
@davemiller638 2 года назад
He was so sneak you didn't even see him in the video
@ALV694
@ALV694 2 года назад
Maybe spy will be a Chinese fan boi bcoz of the almighty Chinese stealth armor
@redhood7650
@redhood7650 2 года назад
@@ALV694 no that's spy
@formerctgovernordannelmall1452
@formerctgovernordannelmall1452 2 года назад
The way everybody bursts out laughing when Demo calls NCR a “well functioning democracy” absolutely killed me
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq 2 года назад
i'm surprised that nobody laughed at medic since well he's defending Kaisars Legion
@Clarkamadorian
@Clarkamadorian 2 года назад
@@The-jy3yq well they were all annoyed at him, since listening to a Caesars legion guy is more annoying and stupid than funny and interesting. At least for me personally
@AvgSchizoid
@AvgSchizoid 2 года назад
@@Clarkamadorian cope and seethe that Caesar is the best option for the wasteland
@frostbite5081
@frostbite5081 2 года назад
@@AvgSchizoid Yes Man, throw this guy next after you're done with Oliver
@Clarkamadorian
@Clarkamadorian 2 года назад
@@frostbite5081 yes man is also pretty decent I suppose, way better than Caesar and his legion of slavery
@BrandonCuringtonOfficial
@BrandonCuringtonOfficial 2 года назад
This is ironically a more peaceful debate than anything in r/fallout
@TheDarkOtter
@TheDarkOtter 2 года назад
Never before have i been so offended by something i 100 agree with
@LiveseyKnight
@LiveseyKnight 2 года назад
imagine actually using reddit lmfao
@DarkfoX9001
@DarkfoX9001 2 года назад
because reddit fucking sucks
@SneednFeed21
@SneednFeed21 2 года назад
@@DarkfoX9001 >use r/fallout >say you like the legion because they have cool armor >perma banned for racism why do I even try
@jyrese117
@jyrese117 2 года назад
no r/fallout is an echochamber it only becomes rowdy when somebody disagrees
@Buttnut88
@Buttnut88 2 года назад
"Medic my chin is receding just from listening to you" fucking gold
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq 2 года назад
2:40
@ryanthemostwantedfurry1281
@ryanthemostwantedfurry1281 2 года назад
i'll steal it and use it.
@sneedfeedandseed2410
@sneedfeedandseed2410 2 года назад
this made me giggle like a madman
@sethbangard5194
@sethbangard5194 2 года назад
I thought he said “my hair is receding” because Caesar is bald
@genelearnsenglish4242
@genelearnsenglish4242 2 года назад
@@sethbangard5194 I thought he said "gene", as in "the number of my chromosomes is getting smaller listening to you"
@night1hal1
@night1hal1 2 года назад
The only thing that could have made this better was the Scout interjecting that the Brotherhood was the best major faction, and all the other mercs getting pissed at him when they realize he's talking about Fallout 3.
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 2 года назад
Waiting for an extended version of this video with Scout interference
@chadasmr8304
@chadasmr8304 2 года назад
Hahahaha
@Flamme-Sanabi
@Flamme-Sanabi 2 года назад
Or 4.
@dinoluka11
@dinoluka11 2 года назад
@@Flamme-Sanabi Fallout 4 BoS was unironically the best version of the Brotherhood we got tbh. They're not shitty cookie cutter good guys like in Fallout 3 nor are they pathetic mole-men cowering in a tiny ass bunker. FO4 BoS was pretty decent.
@mccs4452
@mccs4452 2 года назад
I can see Pyro being the one to side either with the Big Mt. or Elijah
@piotrkozowski2180
@piotrkozowski2180 2 года назад
To be fair the best and only canon ending in the game is idiot Courier locking himself in the Sierra Madre Casino.
@thatstrangeguy292
@thatstrangeguy292 2 года назад
The Chad ending.
@EmperorAmbrose
@EmperorAmbrose 2 года назад
@@thatstrangeguy292 perhaps a *schizo* idea?
@jamesverner9132
@jamesverner9132 2 года назад
i died with the kromer
@cookieninja_1396
@cookieninja_1396 2 года назад
I legit done that run just now
@karamanid
@karamanid 2 года назад
Thats Legion ending since without Courier intervention, Legion would win.
@swordguy6368
@swordguy6368 2 года назад
Y’know it’s fitting that Glados would choose the ending with the AI.
@dragonfell5078
@dragonfell5078 2 года назад
Two AI dictators with an army of robots... I N F I N I T E T E S T S U B J E C T S
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen 2 года назад
Her saying "cope and seethe" shows how butthurt her hypocritical robot ass is.
@DrMFoster7
@DrMFoster7 2 года назад
I don't really even think endings where you can just fill in the blank should be an option for these debates. The courier isn't a definate character, they could be any kind of leader based on any kind of playthrough.
@MajinObama
@MajinObama 2 года назад
Maybe she likes him flushE
@brok56
@brok56 2 года назад
@@dragonfell5078 free side and The strip becomes a breeding ground for test subjects and vault 21 turns into a test site.
@Gazzitas
@Gazzitas 2 года назад
Soldier passionately talking praise for the Enclave made this video for me.
@NurseAmamiya
@NurseAmamiya 2 года назад
Shouldn't be any surprise. Enclave is all about America after all.
@NobelTheKnave
@NobelTheKnave 2 года назад
The Virgin Brotherhood of Steel vs the Chad Enclave
@NurseAmamiya
@NurseAmamiya 2 года назад
@@NobelTheKnave let's fucking goooo!
@silverbloodborne9495
@silverbloodborne9495 2 года назад
I don't know why but the enclave sounds so real then actually fucking governments politics
@JackDelta
@JackDelta 2 года назад
God bless the Enclave; God bless Rick May!
@kobold7466
@kobold7466 2 года назад
the best ending is just killing every single NPC you find and systematically depopulate the wasteland until all thats left is you WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN
@SwoleSorcerer
@SwoleSorcerer 2 года назад
Snipings a good job mate Be polite, be efficient, have a plan to kill everyone you meet
@Matt-td8xw
@Matt-td8xw 2 года назад
*Fallout Dust intencifies*
@neonoire539
@neonoire539 2 года назад
Ah, a father Elijah associate
@MrG-zn6gh
@MrG-zn6gh 2 года назад
Pyro would support it but would just see it as the world turning into a magical paradise
@mateusrabelo7890
@mateusrabelo7890 2 года назад
Ellijah stan?
@RRRIDLEY
@RRRIDLEY 2 года назад
Every merc's stance actually makes perfect sense relative to their character. Medic: "ends justify the means", approves of morally-questionable methods (such as slavery and razing towns) if the dictator in question is effective & makes demonstrable progress. I don't need to tell you why a Teutonic man who lived through the 1930's - 1940's could potentially believe this is the best way to move forward, never mind his other habits (use of living people as test subjects, etc.) The medic is absolutely the most" in his element" when taking drastic measures to turn the tides of battle, as demonstrated in his Meet the Team video and in-game, which is similar to how Caesar rose to power. Heavy: believes in disposing of all major powers acting in the Mojave, returning power to the smaller tribes, and then eventually using the remnants of said powers (Yes-Man taking control of House's robotic army) to bring everyone to the bargaining table. It makes sense for a man who lived through the respective reign of a Tzar, the Bolsheviks and the Soviets to resent overbearing power (as all of those caused some degree of widespread suffering) and instead put his faith in smaller groups of ordinary, localized people. Sniper: bases his entire career on his own skillset ("you don't need friends if you never miss"), causing him to either miss or ignore the benefits of cooperating with the Mojave's residents. Sniper is a solitary guy in general, it makes sense he would believe in using surgical precision to decide what's going to happen, regardless of what anybody else wants. Being so divorced from a raging battle also gives him more time to thoroughly scrutinize everyone involved. Engineer: similarities between the pair using robots to defend themselves aside, it makes sense the Engineer would care less about moral quandaries (taxes, slavery, etc.) and be more interested in the wasteland's practical problems. Both he and Mr. House want to envision a bigger picture, derive a solution from that and use what's at their disposal right now to slowly accomplish it; ideally, via advanced technology (and making peoples' lives easier through it.) Demoman: it's very subtle, but Tavish puts a lot of faith in tradition; he mentions churches, God, hell, etc. in-game, and he sticks to his family trade, supports his mother, etc. outside of the game. The NCR is among the oldest and most stable of the wasteland's societies, so it makes sense that the man would side with whatever faction has the most firmly-rooted and longest-lasting values (as even outside the context of the NCR, they greatly resemble pre-war America.) Soldier: is a jingoist, supports jingoism. Soldier is also the sort of guy to stop paying any attention once he finds the most "American" faction, wherein he'll immediately believe that faction is justified in everything they are doing and the best possible option in every scenario. All he's really missing is a set of X-01 power armor.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 2 года назад
Soldier is literally that one guy you meet in Megaton who does nothing but listen to Enclave Radio and balks at the idea they may be lying.
@93camping
@93camping 2 года назад
With such an indept analyzes. May I ask what endings you think Spy, Pyro and Scout would pick, based of their own personalities and backgrounds?
@frankhorriganfromfallout2
@frankhorriganfromfallout2 2 года назад
Soldier is right btw lol
@redline841
@redline841 2 года назад
Even better in the sequel where he just likes Enclave to start shit
@frankhorriganfromfallout2
@frankhorriganfromfallout2 2 года назад
@@redline841 yeah I like the enclave for that reason as well. It’s preety funny for people to make a 10 page essay about why the enclave is bad And then I just respond “it’s a game dude”
@threescoops8672
@threescoops8672 2 года назад
My god, the constant talking over each other, the obscure insults, the self righteousness about a fictional world. You sir have perfectly encapsulated what an internet argument would sound like in real life, and you used AI generated TF2 voices no less. Truly brilliant.
@furiousfinch1587
@furiousfinch1587 2 года назад
Soldier briefly gets hyped for Demo vs Sniper and goes "awww" when Engineer interrupts.
@ihategoogleplus5308
@ihategoogleplus5308 2 года назад
“He can die in the game, you drunk shit! The Legion continues on without him!” The frantic, angry way Medic says this line gets me every time.
@404BYTE
@404BYTE 2 года назад
I like how each factions are so good people are bickering over it until this day.
@levicordle8936
@levicordle8936 2 года назад
Fr
@GodittoC
@GodittoC 2 года назад
69 likes, make a wish!
@Thobeian
@Thobeian 2 года назад
Gonna be real, the arguments for the are always pretty laughable to me, and just signal that the person making it wants to be a fascist. Every other faction makes so much more sense and has way more facets to consider in whether it would succeed or fail: House’s narcissism, the NCR’s many conflicting interest groups, and the interplay between many of the factions of the Mojave that you have to convince to help you in the wild card ending. Caesar is basically LARPing as an emperor when the only thing that separates him from the tribes he conquered was how meticulous he was in erasing their culture, and a basic understanding of logistics.
@theshambler6814
@theshambler6814 2 года назад
@@Thobeian you sir have failed to realize the point of this comment… congratulations.
@joshuabacker2363
@joshuabacker2363 2 года назад
@@Thobeian The NCR is the least sensible and most dead--end faction of them all, the only reason they have any popularity is because people relate them to modern day political ideologies, which have failed the NCR so far that even that dumbass Caesar can recognize that they're just another dictatorship in practice. House, the Legion, and Yes Man are the only real competing parties in the mojave, with viable futures ahead of them.
@Buddy.Boi.Jacoby
@Buddy.Boi.Jacoby 2 года назад
0:15 "We are having a deep philosophical arguement on the morality of slavery" got my ass crying.
@mannyperez6096
@mannyperez6096 Год назад
Your what?
@Antonio-132
@Antonio-132 Год назад
@@mannyperez6096 Medic thinks Caesar's legion is the best faction
@CaptainRex-rx2me
@CaptainRex-rx2me Год назад
HE FUCKING THINKS WOT?!?!
@koshavinka2995
@koshavinka2995 2 года назад
2:08 It actually is perfectly in character for Heavy to hate faux-liberating dictators since Canon Heavy Is enemies with the USSR, who were just that
@staples9897
@staples9897 2 года назад
well not really heavys father was killed by the red army and he was put in a gulag by them but he escaped and thats as much as we know about heavy and the ussr. he never really states his opinion on them i mean it would probably be bad but we dont really know
@koshavinka2995
@koshavinka2995 2 года назад
@@staples9897 One tends not to be fond of the people Who kill one's father, imprison and torture one's family and then pursue said family for years, forcing them to take refuge in the cold middle of nowhere
@staples9897
@staples9897 2 года назад
@@koshavinka2995 like i said it would probably be bad but we cant really just assume something and call it true. We can theorise but we cant be definite
@koshavinka2995
@koshavinka2995 2 года назад
@RU-vid Bot Oh yeeesss
@joseaca1010
@joseaca1010 2 года назад
@RU-vid Bot what do you mean? Everyone in the team is clearly american!
@remonjules
@remonjules 2 года назад
This is actually so amazing. The characterization of each merc, legitimate arguments presented that belong in an actual discussion about FNV, and the humor. 10/10.
@bruhman5829
@bruhman5829 2 года назад
yeah I did not think this would be so well put-together
@RecordedMercury
@RecordedMercury 2 года назад
A fuckin magnum opus of a video.
@crusadr_4966
@crusadr_4966 2 года назад
Love how Demoman and Soldier on opposite sides of the pre-war America, Scout would probably be too busy trying to install sex mods
@solidchocolate2884
@solidchocolate2884 2 года назад
And then giving up when it gets too difficult.
@Vexelator
@Vexelator 2 года назад
"SCOTT WHY DO U HAVE A MOD CALLED FEMBOY COURIER?"
@RecordedMercury
@RecordedMercury 2 года назад
Scout would the type of fucker to have Veronica as a follower and give her a dress and post about it on reddit.
@Chimeratech_O.D.
@Chimeratech_O.D. Год назад
Gotta get that Red Luccy.
@naenae2350
@naenae2350 6 месяцев назад
Pregnant sunny mod
@windwind3170
@windwind3170 2 года назад
>at least NCR is a well-functioning democracy >everybody laughs Fools, the corruption and inefficient bureaucracy is a sign of a working democracy. Working as intended.
@somegoodsoup7008
@somegoodsoup7008 2 года назад
Also taxes
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 2 года назад
*even more uproar laugh* True tho.
@fiendish9474
@fiendish9474 2 года назад
"NCR a functioning democracy" >President Tandi.mp4
@TheBreakingBenny
@TheBreakingBenny 2 года назад
Tandi will be rolling in her grave, won't she. Even Aradesh feared this.
@Tabby3456
@Tabby3456 2 года назад
Scout: NCR: Neutral Karma (would pickpocket/kill for sunset sarsaparilla star caps) Soldier: NCR (if not for Enclave): Evil Karma Pyro: Independent: Evil Karma Demo: NCR: Good Karma (Powder ganger/Boomer Sympathizer) Heavy: Independent: Good Karma Engineer: Mr. House: Good Karma Sniper: Wipe the Slate Clean (independent): Evil Karma (With father elijah) Medic: Caesar Legion: Good Karma (if only the old world blues ending where the scientists of the Big MT take over the mojave existed in the current game) Spy: Mr. House: Netural (or even evil) Karma
@yapflipthegrunt4687
@yapflipthegrunt4687 2 года назад
Oh god the think tank ending. Romans on the moon.mp4
@TheMarg0r
@TheMarg0r 2 года назад
@@yapflipthegrunt4687 We're Romans on the moon we carry a pilum but there ain't no slaves so we tell tall tales and we sing our Roman tune
@5kN9
@5kN9 2 года назад
not sure how well the powder gangers and the NCR go together considering that they are opposing factions but it makes sense for demo ig
@Tabby3456
@Tabby3456 2 года назад
@@5kN9 i was referring to him as a sympathizer, not in alliance with them.
@Matt-td8xw
@Matt-td8xw 2 года назад
I think the spy and engeneer would totally go for mr. House, but the sniper with elijah dosen't make any sense to me.
@henrybadger785
@henrybadger785 2 года назад
*Engineer being the most reasonable and siding with house is so in character, I love it.*
@reptiliannoizezz.413
@reptiliannoizezz.413 2 года назад
Funny that in my first run I sided with House and Engie is my fave class
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 2 года назад
🎶Cause in heaven🎶 🎶The house always wins🎶
@redninja0078
@redninja0078 2 года назад
@@rejvaik00 Ah, a man/woman of culture as well I see.
@kainthedragoon8081
@kainthedragoon8081 Год назад
Yea in most of my runs I side with House
@ohmygahdbilly
@ohmygahdbilly Год назад
House fans explaining why they let a boomer make all their choices for them
@PRIMALPRIME1
@PRIMALPRIME1 2 года назад
This is actually written pretty well, it makes me wanna buy New Vegas.
@TheJoazzz
@TheJoazzz 2 года назад
Clunky graphics and movement aside, you won't regret it
@The-Enclave
@The-Enclave 2 года назад
@@TheJoazzz Mods can solve that
@rubedog961
@rubedog961 2 года назад
What? You haven't played New Vegas!? *beats you to death*
@MnemonicHack
@MnemonicHack 2 года назад
@@rubedog961 No, you can't beat him to death! If you do, that's one fewer person who can play NV!
@henrycrabs3497
@henrycrabs3497 2 года назад
@elmehecano6837
@elmehecano6837 2 года назад
I can't explain why but the delivery of Medic going "HE CAN DIE IN THE GAME YOU DRUNK SHIT" is the best part of the video
@BlueBedouin
@BlueBedouin 2 года назад
Its just such a real moment
@gadielgonzalez2755
@gadielgonzalez2755 2 года назад
Is there no option to just not pick a faction and let things run their course while I live a peaceful life as a farmer with my cyborg doggy?
@SwoleSorcerer
@SwoleSorcerer 2 года назад
I just want to grill for God's sake
@afruitshopowner3307
@afruitshopowner3307 2 года назад
I mean, without Courier intervetion Caesar would have won.
@afruitshopowner3307
@afruitshopowner3307 2 года назад
Ngl tho, i wish there was an option to stay truly neutral.
@virtualtools_3021
@virtualtools_3021 2 года назад
@@afruitshopowner3307 there is, its the kill everyone option
@afruitshopowner3307
@afruitshopowner3307 2 года назад
@@virtualtools_3021 Yeah but you will have to do the Yes Man ending. (And you will also and end up being hated by both NCR and Caesar's Legion) What i meant in my comment was that you could have just avoid siding with any of the main factions and deliver the platinum chip to Mr House.
@SteveAdmin
@SteveAdmin 2 года назад
The only true faction is the games protaganists and theyre army of companions.
@SuperNormalMan
@SuperNormalMan 2 года назад
Indeed. Why hand over control of New Vegas when you can just keep it yourself? The other factions can have a piece of the pie, if they ask nicely.
@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195
@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195 2 года назад
Me and my companions are the bane of the Legion
@Mabra51
@Mabra51 2 года назад
*their
@manbruh2145
@manbruh2145 2 года назад
@@SuperNormalManindeed. Why pay tax for ncr when you can overthrow them and make them pay tax for you instead
@SteveAdmin
@SteveAdmin 2 года назад
@@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195 we do a li- no. MASSIVE TROLLING
@WTFisTingispingis
@WTFisTingispingis 2 года назад
Soldier being an Enclave fanboy is absolutely in-character of him.
@kirbly2854
@kirbly2854 2 года назад
My favorite part is Definitely demo calling the NCR a well functioning democracy and then everyone else in the room laughing there ass off
@Flamme-Sanabi
@Flamme-Sanabi 2 года назад
Same.
@handson4580
@handson4580 2 года назад
you cant have democracy without intense corruption! it comes with the package
@CheeseYourself
@CheeseYourself 2 года назад
The AI's delivery on "Medic, Caesar is a fucking psychopath" is so realistic omg
@TheInSaNeTenno
@TheInSaNeTenno 2 года назад
That’s pretty much /v/ in general.
@knightshade2654
@knightshade2654 2 года назад
>no Indian FO3 fan Close but no
@user-ur1us7ps7q
@user-ur1us7ps7q 2 года назад
DONT REDEEM FALLOUT 3 REEDEM FALLOUT NV THANK YOU
@heresy8384
@heresy8384 2 года назад
@@knightshade2654 SIR DO NOT REDEEM
@commietearsdrinker
@commietearsdrinker 2 года назад
They did my man Demoman dirty. He would know the NCR *isn't* a perfect democracy, but rather a better alternative to anarchy and dictatorship or even maintaining the status quo.
@HellbirdIV
@HellbirdIV 2 года назад
He did say "functioning democracy", not "perfect" - sure, maybe he's playing up the actual competence of the NCRs political system, but he does admit it's far from perfect. He's right, of course - democracy is worth the cost in corruption and general bumbling ineptitude.
@badasscrusader
@badasscrusader 2 года назад
@@HellbirdIV I still think independent is better because 1.the legion can go burn 2.ncr needs to worry about itself not expansion 3.if you unite the tribes that's a force to be scared of plus more stability,also the courier would have to be the leader with no one to lead the tribes they would just splinter back into chaos
@HellbirdIV
@HellbirdIV 2 года назад
@@badasscrusader I think the main reason people still to this day talk about which faction is the "best" one is that none of them are actually "good". Regardless of which ending you go for, every option has some positives and a lot of negatives. It's about picking which one you personally think is the most ... "okay".
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 2 года назад
@@HellbirdIV The way Cass puts it always stood out the most to me regarding the NCR: Everyone has a bad opinion on the ground of the NCR, and most the people who has the strongest opinions come from it. However it's one of the few systems where those bad opinions might actually mean something - Ceaser naturally will not listen to critique, bought into his own hype by this point, and House will no doubt fill his board room with his own Yes Men (no not that one) once he has the capital and military to secure his place. Flawed as it may be, the only pre-existing system that theoretically has a way to improve is the NCR via it's elections and the people's voices. It won't fix stuff overnight but it has hopes to fix itself, which is more than can be said for House, Ceaser, or the Courier building a new system out of unknowns and fanfiction.
@slyseal2091
@slyseal2091 2 года назад
@@gratuitouslurking8610 Yep, the capacity and expectation of self-regulation is what caused most places where people are educated to turn into democracies. It's also half of the Mr. House argument, that because he is the natural high-tech choice, it's an eventuality for him to be abdicate or be overthrown by more sensible people - with the upside that at that point, they're either an interplanetary society (if house is honest) or a 2nd world country (if house is just a money grub). And that also works as a counter-argument to the Legion, that if and when it's leadership crumbles, you'll still not have made any progress as a society, and when said leadership turns to democracy, you got the NCR, minus 200 years of progress and infrastructure, and when they turn into technocrat reformers, you have House, minus 400 years of progress and a leader from the age of true first world countries.
@MoskHotel
@MoskHotel 2 года назад
Soldier: “Medic thinks Caesar’s Legion is the best faction.” Demo: “He focking thinks WOT?!!” Gotta love Demo’s reaction 😂
@user-DrKritz115
@user-DrKritz115 2 года назад
He sounds angrier about that then the morality behind slavery
@destroyershy96
@destroyershy96 Год назад
0:20
@MacobstonProductions
@MacobstonProductions 2 года назад
Valve : They don't need a tf2 show. The People : Fine I'll do it myself.
@patrik9328
@patrik9328 2 года назад
I want to hear them argue about factions of Command & Conquer next
@warsharkproductions6550
@warsharkproductions6550 2 года назад
Yeah me too, good game series.
@lautarogomez9711
@lautarogomez9711 2 года назад
Don't hate me for this...but the brotherhood of Nod is for me
@warsharkproductions6550
@warsharkproductions6550 2 года назад
@@lautarogomez9711 Nah man the brotherhood of nod is awesome, the best villains in the franchise!
@lautarogomez9711
@lautarogomez9711 2 года назад
@@warsharkproductions6550 "oh really?..
@mrschizo2837
@mrschizo2837 2 года назад
Long live the brotherhood. Kane lives.
@luilui5780
@luilui5780 2 года назад
Pyro would definitely go for the Elijah ending
@alexsandresixarulize8616
@alexsandresixarulize8616 2 года назад
why does pyro need red cloud when he can burn everyone with his flamethrower
@elysiankentarchy1531
@elysiankentarchy1531 2 года назад
He'd/She'd/It'd probably think that the Cloud being spread is actually just spreading sunshine and rainbows.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 2 года назад
Pyro would get as far as Primm and the guy who usually spawns with an incinerator, before cavorting across the wasteland endlessly spreading sparkles to anything he crosses.
@dragonhunter4592
@dragonhunter4592 2 года назад
0:30 _"The difference they are making is not a positive one."_ That sudden jumpcut to concerned Heavy just slaughtered me like a group of Great Khan civvies trying to escape Bitter Springs. Also... _NO GODS OR KINGS! INDEPENDENT VEGAS!_
@AgustusSinclairCo.
@AgustusSinclairCo. 2 года назад
While chaos ensues when picking Yes man, it only lasts for a few weeks before returning back to normal only difference being no win for NCR or Legion.
@AgustusSinclairCo.
@AgustusSinclairCo. 2 года назад
Though we don’t know what could happen depending on the couriers travels in Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues, and Lonesome Road.
@kobold7466
@kobold7466 2 года назад
@@AgustusSinclairCo. my headcanon is an independent courier just basically lets yes man do most of the actually governing and checks up on him sometimes while they just gamble and drink and runs\ around the dessert collecting tech and nicknaks to deck out their room
@Mabra51
@Mabra51 2 года назад
If you upgrade the securitrons before taking care of Mr. House the ensuing chaos is greatly reduced.
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq 2 года назад
@@Mabra51 yeehaw massacre
@marley7868
@marley7868 2 года назад
let's not forget yes man with no input from his boss decideds to make it so he can give himself the power to say no and make his own choices so that ending is kinda laiden with "oh the passive aggressive guy with true admin access is probably planning a coop and is gonna do whatever the fuck he wants"
@Florescentia02
@Florescentia02 2 года назад
I think that the fact that people can even have these discussions is a testament to how amazing NV is. The fact that i see myself siding with all factions in certain circumstances is really amazing. This isnt fallout 3 where it's just "BoS good enclave evil"
@SuperPerry1000
@SuperPerry1000 2 года назад
Or Fallout 4 where "Institute bad, BoS bad, Railroad good(?), Minutemen...uh...Settlements?"
@Florescentia02
@Florescentia02 2 года назад
@@SuperPerry1000fallout 4 is an entirely different beast Minutemen are stupid idiots and i cant say whats already been said a thousand times about them Railroad are also dumbfucks BoS while flawed, actually has an idea for the future. Its just that FO4 never explores that side of them Institute seems like the only option that would actually benefit the commonwealth, but they also got a bunch of problems that they never mention Basically, bethesda saw what obsidian did with the faction choices and tried to do it but fucked it up by making them idiots and not going into their flaws like NV did
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 2 года назад
@@SuperPerry1000 BoS is the best faction in fallout 4 and its not even a contest.
@sneedfeedandseed2410
@sneedfeedandseed2410 Год назад
its also a testament to how badly NV fans need to touch grass.
@coachlombardi9657
@coachlombardi9657 4 месяца назад
​@mojewjewjew4420 I don't want to start anything, but I think the Minutemen is the best faction since they are technically the "nicer" faction of all of them with the BoS being second because of their power armors.
@pattygee7267
@pattygee7267 2 года назад
Not only did you manage to get the characterization of every merc spot on, but them all yelling over eachother and somewhat agreeing with the others points is just perfect.
@sovietonion._.3888
@sovietonion._.3888 2 года назад
*Meanwhile Scout: I think Father Elijahs ending is the best Pyro: *umph*
@kittentothefaceinc
@kittentothefaceinc 2 года назад
One of the most convincingly real conversations ever written
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 2 года назад
Even tho I hate Engy as class, but he's so Based for choosing Mr. House
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 Год назад
🎶 _Cause in heaven,_ 🎶 🎶 _The house always wins_ 🎶
@Gookwear
@Gookwear 2 года назад
This is literally like the every day in the fallout community
@unknownsoldier007
@unknownsoldier007 2 года назад
Brotherhood of Steel: Well that went well, all the other factions are gone now and we didn’t even pull a single trigger. Time to resurface and collect more technology!
@LOMLERINO
@LOMLERINO 2 года назад
Gotta go with mr.house bos
@Gamer-ry6xy
@Gamer-ry6xy 2 года назад
If Yes Man likes when we destroy the brotherhood then we all like it.
@mylles1112
@mylles1112 2 года назад
First of all, no factions, just one man, and when the man rules the house, he is more capable of win
@gunswinger3110
@gunswinger3110 2 года назад
I'm with Heavy, if you're playing a high level high karma courier and smoothed things out with all the tribes plus switched on the securitrons then an independent vegas would be a better option for the mojave
@badasscrusader
@badasscrusader 2 года назад
But heavy said he didn't want to lead which would mean no leader means it would just fall back into chaos,courier would need to be the leader just to keep everyone together
@gunswinger3110
@gunswinger3110 2 года назад
@@badasscrusader I reckon the sheer idolized status of the courier in a high karma high rep independent run would keep the tribes from causing much chaos. It's probably my favorite ending since it leaves the true outcome of an independent vegas dependent on how you played your character. In Heavy's case, it might send the whole region into chaos... or things will surprisingly become civil.
@neon-rc6lc
@neon-rc6lc 2 года назад
Yes but during the end of yes man he says he's going to adjust his personality setting so he can think independently don't you think he'll do away with you the second he does that unlike you yes man will live forever you won't so by that logic if you side with the full NCR and go full moral character if you fix the corruption help out the army and free ever and annex everything in the name of NCR the Mojave has a better chance of lasting long and peaceful
@nadrewod999
@nadrewod999 2 года назад
One of my big issues with the YesMan ending is that the AI is already self-upgrading by the time of the Second Battle of Hoover Dam: give him a few years without anyone able to control or contain him (such as House keeping YesMan's AI from infecting most of the network, and Benny keeping YesMan as much of a locked-away secret as possible), and The Courier would quickly become nothing more than a figurehead. With the Legion, you would at best be treated as a "Courier"/"Agent" like Vulpes. With the NCR, you would merely be on par with the other mercenaries that the NCR occasionally hires to help protect their roads. With Mr. House, you can be his most trusted protégé as well as his most capable "fixer"/"negotiator". With YesMan, it's unclear who would be the boss and who would be the subordinate, or even if you'll eventually be nothing more than a figurehead/slave.
@ultra-papasmurf
@ultra-papasmurf 2 года назад
@@neon-rc6lc I'm pretty sure one of the big boy devs released a statement saying it is intended as him limiting who he takes orders from (so someone can't just waltz on in and use him to coup you like you did to benny) but since its not clarified in game you can see it as anything
@brandonweavers4656
@brandonweavers4656 2 года назад
This is so good. The moments when they somewhat talk over each other while trying to make their own points is so accurate to a bunch of friends arguing over stupid shit.
@efarys1918
@efarys1918 2 года назад
Pure fucking gold man. Absolutely brilliant
@ZephanyZephZeph
@ZephanyZephZeph 2 года назад
Heavy would want a militant Followers of the Apocalypse for his version of the independent ending.
@natethegreat1305
@natethegreat1305 2 года назад
This is gold, my god this is fucking wonderful, I love this.
@Sgt_Robo
@Sgt_Robo 2 года назад
The thing with independent vegas (my personal choice) is that its morality and effectiveness depend entirely on your personal courier. The ending is really only there so you can make your own headcanon for how the Mojave would develop. It's pure fanfiction fodder and I love it.
@heat-seekingattackfrisbeem5878
@heat-seekingattackfrisbeem5878 9 дней назад
It only in the game a fallback so you have a ending no matter what you did in game
@mikiczm3248
@mikiczm3248 2 года назад
"Independent" Mojave is the best option. Since your Courier can just do anything they wish for with their robot army and no other factions left to stop him. And since it's technically you making choices on what to do after, it can be everyone's best ending.
@Bacxaber
@Bacxaber 2 года назад
The problem is, Yesman betrays you. He talks about being reprogrammed to be more assertive, AKA he'll be able to say no to you. He'll be in charge, not you.
@theepicone100
@theepicone100 2 года назад
@@Bacxaber According to one of the lead developers, this was actually him reprogramming himself to only listen to you. Did you forget Yes Man follows literally anyone who talks to him?
@whyudoit4009
@whyudoit4009 2 года назад
@@theepicone100 to be fair, yes man still changing his code is still kinda scary.
@theepicone100
@theepicone100 2 года назад
@@whyudoit4009 IT is! If it weren't for the lead developers confirming that it wasn't as bad as it sounded i'd probably think that too.
@whyudoit4009
@whyudoit4009 2 года назад
@@theepicone100 LIKE IF HE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT, what if a crazed maniac before the courier told him to cause a technological singularity. "Oh fuck."
@l3wismoreman9227
@l3wismoreman9227 2 года назад
I don’t know which factions to support in Fallout New Vegas as they each have a cool backstory to them but in my opinion I was going for Mr House
@geoDB.
@geoDB. 2 года назад
Legion
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 2 года назад
🎶Cause in heaven 🎶 🎶The house always wins 🎶
@Iron_Arnie
@Iron_Arnie 2 года назад
The main factor in choosing a faction is your friends future
@High-Pie_Chop
@High-Pie_Chop 2 года назад
thats what I hate and love about fallout nv
@GenocidalSquid
@GenocidalSquid 2 года назад
And that is why I will NEVER go to the Legion. New Rome can burn with Caesar for all I care.
@kronkrian100
@kronkrian100 2 года назад
Yes, which is why NEW Rome will prosper and the Legion dominate. Legion bros 4 life. AVE.
@xannydave609
@xannydave609 2 года назад
The lot of them laughing at 3:21 is probably the best audio sample I have ever heard in my entire life
@roderick04
@roderick04 2 года назад
I find it hilarious that demo seems to react more angrily at the fact medic supports the legion than the fact they were talking about slavery.
@evanlandis990
@evanlandis990 2 года назад
Heavy, you have my support. With out power and influence combined, we can drive out NCR and Legion. We could finally have time to heal the Mojave. First the people, then the earth. Then the full of the west, instegrating the NCR and Enclave under our healing project. Finally we move east, free Legion slaves and keep moving untill the entire US is at some resemblance of peaceful order
@SwoleSorcerer
@SwoleSorcerer 2 года назад
A Russian saving the United States is the ultimate plot twist
@boburkeen
@boburkeen 2 года назад
I'm with heavy on their
@evanlandis990
@evanlandis990 2 года назад
@@boburkeen this?
@CMB505
@CMB505 2 года назад
Yeah, Heavy and (to a much lesser extent) Engie's motives and ideas are probably the better morally good options. Fuck the NCR and the Legion.
@evanlandis990
@evanlandis990 2 года назад
@@SwoleSorcerer his family were counterrevolutionaries so they were against communism.... Also heavy has an intelligence of 6 or 7
@sleepy-fc6rf
@sleepy-fc6rf 2 года назад
Hearing GLaDOS say "Cope and seethe." is a spiritual experience I never knew I needed.
@gahmuretvanbegonia994
@gahmuretvanbegonia994 2 года назад
this is one of the best 15ai vids i've seen
@ivan_the_bunny
@ivan_the_bunny 2 года назад
I was hoping that Scout would come in and be the peacemaker, making the more than agreeable argument that all factions are good choices for different reasons. It just depends on what the player feels is the right choice for the Mojave, and that at the end of the day, Fallout New Vegas is still just a video game where you can make your own decisions and still have fun.
@alizard7617
@alizard7617 2 года назад
What and pyro is in corner going full Elijah grindset mode?
@Scatmanseth
@Scatmanseth 2 года назад
That’s what makes it so good, the writing allows for this. When there’s no universally objective best outcome you’ll have debates like this for decades. Same thing happened with Deus Ex.
@noxer5589
@noxer5589 2 года назад
@@alizard7617 I believed that was what sniper was saying
@gooberman172
@gooberman172 2 года назад
bad
@sparkyboi4387
@sparkyboi4387 2 года назад
@@atomicbezerk7718 the NCR has some flaws, it doesn’t mean that the other factions are perfect, that’s for sure, but saying that the NCR is the best faction is just wrong
@Y-4.
@Y-4. 2 года назад
Pyro in the corner talking to Father Elijia about gassing everyone and everything over lunch: Da fuk they doin over der?
@snappingshrimp235
@snappingshrimp235 2 года назад
This video is beautiful, accurate and well crafted.
@jeezesteeze2536
@jeezesteeze2536 2 года назад
2:20 "Christ sniper im surprised your not a Caesar femboy"
@SwoleSorcerer
@SwoleSorcerer 2 года назад
To be fair they already wear skirts into battle
@NerfMaster000
@NerfMaster000 2 года назад
You know, the mercs shouldn’t really care about House being a half dead guy with a machine strapped to him to keep him alive considering that they’re on the payroll of one in canon.
@FunkBastid
@FunkBastid 2 года назад
The German idolizing the Roman larper, and Soldier simping for the Enclave is so on-brand
@tylertheultimatebadass87
@tylertheultimatebadass87 2 года назад
*Pyro muffles something about Elijah. Entire team goes apeshit*
@viperbuzzard01h84
@viperbuzzard01h84 2 года назад
"god bless the enclave! god bless America!" -John Henry Eden
@DrunkenCoward1
@DrunkenCoward1 2 года назад
"The Legion will be split if Caesar dies." Just like the Macedonians were after Alexander died. Guess what, it turned out great. Fucking magnificent even.
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 2 года назад
Yeah if I remember correctly 🤔 even egypt went 2 centuries of Ptolemaic rule
@Scatmanseth
@Scatmanseth 2 года назад
Independent ending is fanfic-Tier and a cop out, change my mind
@jessalaguicia7088
@jessalaguicia7088 2 года назад
I think something similar. To me, that ending it's the maximum expression of power fantasy: "Look at me. I am powerful enough to rule everything by myself! I have no clue how to do it but i can. How do i know? Because I killed house after hurting my feelings, I killed Caesar because he is bad and i didnt joined the ncr because reasons!!. I'm BADASS and UNSTOPPABLE. I'm the most persuasive and dangerous creature of the wastelaaaand *Monkey screeches* " Mere power fantasy kids. Aka PEASANTS.
@SSD_Penumbra
@SSD_Penumbra 2 года назад
Compare that to; - A faction that has slavery - A faction that is basically a robo dictatorship - A faction with the worst of all; *taxes*
@jessalaguicia7088
@jessalaguicia7088 2 года назад
@@SSD_Penumbra Robo autocracy* Kappa
@kool1229
@kool1229 2 года назад
​@@jessalaguicia7088 My personal take on it is that independent is sort fanfic like the original commenter said, but I feel its in a good way. My personal favorite is independent, but I see independent as being the best possible ending or the worst possible ending. An RPG like NV is all about either putting yourself into a character or building up a character you want to play or be. I like to think about it like this: a good karma Courier with high or max INT and high Charisma/Speech would be truly want whats best for New Vegas. While they would be smart enough to do a lot on their own due to high INT, they would know they can't solely rule over NV. They would try and gather the tribes together to create a nation in the Mojave rather than being ruled by a corrupt government on the coast. With their intellect and social skills they would likely be able to accomplish that and help build a thriving nation, or at least alliance in the Mojave to do whats best for people rather than ruling over it themselves. A good karma, low INT I Courier I think would have good intentions at heart, but in the end fail due to being an idiot. They would be the ones to try and solely rule New Vegas and the Mojave and make dumb decisions. So while they have good intentions at heart, in the end they would ultimately fail and cause the collapse of New Vegas. An neutral karma Courier wouldn't care about the start of New Vegas. I think they would leave Yes Man to himself as he only wishing for a Mojave without a governing body and just want anarchy where strength is law. For evil karma Courier, I think it would be opposites of the good karma. A high INT evil Courier I believe would choose to rule over New Vegas themselves and successfully pull it off. With their high intellect they would be able to rule New Vegas as a dictator and stand unopposed throughout the Mojave. Hell, with high speech/charisma they may be able spout enough propaganda that people truly believe that they have the best lives compared to everybody and all over governing bodies are evil such as many dictatorships currently do. Anyone who opposed them would be crushed as an example For an evil karma Courier with low INT, I think they would choose to try and sole rule over New Vegas, but horribly fail/get overthrown. I think because of the idiot they are, they wouldn't successfully use their robot army and be overthrown. At the very least even if their robot army was enough to stay in power due to its power, there would be constant strife, fighting, and rebellion on unstable battleground due to them not being able to handle anything due to being dumb. In the end I would say that Independent New Vegas can range from best to worst all based on how you play your character and what they are like. Smart good characters likely wouldn't be power hungry idiots who just want everything for themselves. Dumb bad people would be selfish as hell, but they would fail due to being idiots. You could argue more toward it too where a high strength evil Courier would rule with an iron fist, which a high INT and high Charisma Courier might try and use propaganda, brainwashing, and even inventions from Big MT to maintain control. Its really up to who your character is and how their and skilled to shape the ending should they choose for New Vegas to be independent.
@sharoyveduchi
@sharoyveduchi 2 года назад
@@SSD_Penumbra a lot of people would choose one of those three if it meant not getting shot up by random raiders while traveling from place to place
@dinoluka11
@dinoluka11 2 года назад
You know you've made a good game when people are still having debates about its factions 11 years later
@user-cj4zk2ix4o
@user-cj4zk2ix4o Год назад
This is an amazing showcase of human intelligence going in the wrong direction
@isecream
@isecream 2 года назад
It's impressive how even past a decade, New Vegas has such complex lore that everyone is still arguing over it to this day. If only Obsidian had some more time...
@Flamme-Sanabi
@Flamme-Sanabi 2 года назад
I think not that it is about the lore, but the politics.
@user-yg7sh9fh2y
@user-yg7sh9fh2y 2 года назад
Engineer is the most civil one despite being a Mr house fan. That's rare cause every FoNV fanboy are basically edgy psychopath teens who are into politics. I remember the old times were people talk about how many bugs & glitches they could find in the game, such good old times.
@Fourtytwo4242
@Fourtytwo4242 2 года назад
I mean has a NCR supporter, he right, House is legit the best option, he had everything planned out, his goals are beyond our understanding, he is the best for the world, not just mojave. He not lying House would save all of humanity, has he the only one who can fix this hellhole we created. Like wise keeping a single leader in control until end of time removes the risks of "problems". Problem is I like the brotherhood of steel even though they are stupid so house dead.
@SneedsterSpeedster
@SneedsterSpeedster 2 года назад
"Every FoNV fanboy are basically edgy psychopath teens who are into politics." Written like a true r/fallout redditor, friend.
@Flamme-Sanabi
@Flamme-Sanabi 2 года назад
@@Fourtytwo4242X, he cares only about the people of the strip and his goals, not the suffering and uncivil humans, so that's why I don't like to side with him, imo.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 2 года назад
@@Flamme-Sanabi This. If House really wished to improve the lives of humanity and not just wring them for their cash, Freeside would not currently be a hellhole itself. There would be nothing stopping House from policing the slums outside Vegas like they police the inner Strip, but he doesn't. It makes his claims about reaching the stars sound hollow when he can't deal with his front porch. Yes the NCR has issues holding it's land and image but House doesn't have a lot of ground to cover and secure if his goals were truly altruistic.
@dogeprissy9850
@dogeprissy9850 2 года назад
I miss those bottle caps glitches.
@kekero540
@kekero540 2 года назад
Scout being like. “Idk dude NCR has some nice looking soldiers”
@Bacxaber
@Bacxaber 2 года назад
Scout would be pro-NCR solely because of Cpl. Betsy, despite the fact that she's not even into men.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 2 года назад
Scout would be the guy so busy getting Companion perks he'd forget to run into Benny.
@tangerina_g3618
@tangerina_g3618 2 года назад
There’s actually a secret ending in new vegas where a 5th party takes control of the wasteland that almost nobody knows about. If you ask Veronica everything about Father Elijah, you can later on in the Dead Money DLC unlock a special dialogue option that leads to the game ending and showing a secret ending where you and Father Elijah take control of the mojave wasteland. (Edit: there’s actually a 6th ending where the scientists from the Old World Blues DLC take control of the mojave wasteland)
@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195
@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195 2 года назад
Everyone we all know the best faction is the Rangers
@SwoleSorcerer
@SwoleSorcerer 2 года назад
Rip
@Peter_Turbo4
@Peter_Turbo4 2 года назад
Didn’t they get their nuts subsequently slapped by the Brotherhood, Legion and then NCR?
@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195
@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195 2 года назад
@@Peter_Turbo4 Rangers never fought the Brotherhood nor NCR
@knightshade2654
@knightshade2654 2 года назад
@@Peter_Turbo4 The Rangers agreed to join the NCR to further their strength, clapped Legion cheeks during the first Battle of Hoover Dam, and were an instramental part of the NCR-Brotherhood War. They also fought valiantly against the Legion in the ending slides regardless of what faction you choose.
@Peter_Turbo4
@Peter_Turbo4 2 года назад
That was a Rhetorical question Y’all fuckers never played Wasteland did you
@Bluesit32
@Bluesit32 2 года назад
Independent Vegas is the best choice because the Courier will get rid of any problems. The second best would be House simply because if he becomes...difficult, he can easily be removed. No forces are going to come and replace him once he's dead.
@arandomgreekfrombactria6302
@arandomgreekfrombactria6302 2 года назад
Only reason I do house is because I'm more comfortable with playing a Sigma male courier tbh XD
@natethegreat1305
@natethegreat1305 2 года назад
Independent new vegas is fucking stupid, house is THE #1 best choice
@Bluesit32
@Bluesit32 2 года назад
@@natethegreat1305 If he was such a great choice, he wouldn't be dead.
@Scatmanseth
@Scatmanseth 2 года назад
Why not just publish your MLP crossover while you’re at it? Independent is Matt Ward Tier thinking
@chesterstevens8870
@chesterstevens8870 2 года назад
Did you miss the part where Yes Man said he was going to rewrite his code to make himself more assertive? Independence in just nuspeak for "Robot Overlord" path.
@PrinceApollo117
@PrinceApollo117 2 года назад
The only thing bad about the NCR is having to pay taxes. ITS A NUCLEAR APOCALYPSE! YOU DON’T NEED TAXES!
@bruvaguren494
@bruvaguren494 2 года назад
Dont they have cities to upkeep?
@PrinceApollo117
@PrinceApollo117 2 года назад
@@bruvaguren494 the only 2 things that are really maintained are the strip and Hoover Dam. I’m aware that the NCR controls the dam. But why would all your tax money go to only one thing
@bruvaguren494
@bruvaguren494 2 года назад
@@PrinceApollo117 I meant settlements on the east coast. y'know, california
@PrinceApollo117
@PrinceApollo117 2 года назад
@@bruvaguren494 that’s mostly non NCR stuff, like vault city, and that dump known as sandy sands
@benjaminbarraza8972
@benjaminbarraza8972 2 года назад
They use the taxes to pay for things for the population like public education, public transport and clean water, also to fund the army. But they usually are subpar providing and with all the corruption they end up like they are by new vegas time
@RyujinRoninReach
@RyujinRoninReach 2 года назад
I’d like the mercs to discuss the best girl from evangelion
@yapflipthegrunt4687
@yapflipthegrunt4687 2 года назад
It would be scout arguing with people on the internet.
@bruvaguren494
@bruvaguren494 2 года назад
There's no best girl, only Kaworu
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq 2 года назад
@@bruvaguren494 but Pen Pen exists
@kronkrian100
@kronkrian100 2 года назад
All of them are overrated trash. There.
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq 2 года назад
@@kronkrian100 but what about evangelion air can't you date evangelion air you can so it is a girl from evangelion and it is the most underrated girl of them all
@WrongNumber76
@WrongNumber76 2 года назад
Glados is best hope for humanity
@TheDragShot
@TheDragShot 2 года назад
Truly a beacon of hope for the science of tomorrow.
@thepriorstone4064
@thepriorstone4064 10 месяцев назад
Demo getting more mad at the mention of the Legion than the slavery debate is the best part already
@GrimReaver
@GrimReaver 2 года назад
NCR and Legion are both modeled after nations that have failed and fallen, House only seeks the future while pushing everyone else beneath him and independence while it sounds nice means dealing with all the raiders, gangs and other nonsense that rise from such a society while having every other faction fighting you and each other for Vegas. And for the sake of Soldier’s argument, the Enclave have been defeated time and time again to the point of being nearly wiped out completely despite their superior technology, tactics and resources. Then there’s the fact it is all made redundant with Lonesome Road and the tunnelers invading the Mojave in less than a decade. TL;DR: All choices are relatively bleak with their upsides and potentially catastrophic downsides.
@DonSMDT
@DonSMDT 2 года назад
I mean if House makes it to space in a like 5 years
@alexsandresixarulize8616
@alexsandresixarulize8616 2 года назад
i mean houses securitrons can defend vegas againts tunnelers soo yes man or mr house
@kronkrian100
@kronkrian100 2 года назад
I don't think you can hold that against the Legion. Despite eventually falling, as almost all ancient civilizations did, bar one, the Roman Empire was one of the most long-standing, powerful and influential civilizations ever formed. I don't like the Legion, but it being modeled after the Ancient Roman Empire is not a weakness.
@mannyperez6096
@mannyperez6096 2 года назад
0:20 Medic thinks Caesar legion is the best faction
@Antonio-132
@Antonio-132 Год назад
He f@#$ing thinks what?!
@saitama3717
@saitama3717 4 месяца назад
0:22 ya welcome for @Atonio-132
@pedroalbornozramirez8895
@pedroalbornozramirez8895 2 года назад
3:16 this always get me
@fotppd1475
@fotppd1475 Год назад
I would love to see them argue over the best 40K faction/race or space marine legion too. It would be farting hilarious.
@jollyg6365
@jollyg6365 2 года назад
“At least the NCR is a well-functioning democracy” >Everybody else laughs The most accurate part of the video. True to Caesar.
@swolie
@swolie 2 года назад
Ad Victorium
@whoneedslegsorarms5770
@whoneedslegsorarms5770 2 года назад
Ave
@swolie
@swolie 2 года назад
@@whoneedslegsorarms5770 Hey, you ever wondered what plasma taste like? I could show you.
@spookyengie735
@spookyengie735 2 года назад
Ave True to Ncr
@yourpancreas2634
@yourpancreas2634 2 года назад
Ave, true to balding tribal dictator with a God complex and a severe case of "short sightedness" that believes enslaving the Mojave will save it. Just go join the Brotherhood of Steel and ignore the story until you get bored, better than choosing between slavery, enchanced slavery with added democracy, an immortal dictator, and possibly chaos in the independent ending. That's all I have to say, have a wonderful day and stop joining Ceasars Legion, just pick one of the others for once, try a strength build independent and blow everyone up, very fun, highly recommend.
@waffles6280
@waffles6280 2 года назад
Alright here's my best attempt at non biasedly analyzing all of the F:NV Factions 1. Mr. House Mr. House's argument is quite simple, he saved the strip, has run the strip successfully for a while (I can't remember how long exactly, but if you see anybody say it was for 200 years they are a liar, his systems were knocked out for quite a while after the war), and he has a plan for the future. His biggest issues are that he is a dictator (although it's not exactly like that's unique), not willing to compromise, and that he's not got the greatest past of being a good person (i.e. vault 21) 2. The Legion (The Legion really suffered due to the short dev time, so please excuse me if most of this is just guesswork) The Legion honestly probably wouldn't suck to live in, considering that it is incredibly safe for caravans, stable as hell, and probably has nil raiders in their territory at all. And life would be pretty comfy too, probably a forced stint in the military, but once you retire, a land grant and some free slaves wouldn't shock me, so you get a comfy life with no manual labor. (obv. unless you're a slave but no shit sherlock) (also the once you retire could just be a big if, it's hard to say) The issues with the legion (unless you like them for some reason) is the slavery, inequality, and massive amounts of blood and fire. And also don't forget the Caesar question, what happens to the Legion once he bites the big one? (naturally or at the hands of the Courier) I would say that the Legion wouldn't just fall apart immediately after his passing, maybe like a decade or two later, but if they lose the battle then it's a toss-up Maybe Lanius would be end up like Josh for his failure at the 2nd battle of the Hoover Dam, and without one man to take up leadership they might fall apart a few months or years after the battle, or the dam could be used as a rallying point, keeping the legion together for another attack. It's hard to say. 3. NCR Incompetent, corrupt, slow, bureaucratic, imperialistic (although that last one also applies to legion) Those are just a fistful of problems that the NCR has, and they're real obvious, so uh what does the NCR bring to the table? I would say that they aren't as obviously bloodthirsty as the Legion (Bitter Springs is more an example of incompetence than bloodthirst assuming Boone is to be believed), and are somewhat better to people than House, and that if the Mojave comes completely under their control, eventually they might have some say in governance. 4. Yes Man Oh dear god. iirc the only thing we know about yes man is that there's anarchy for a while, literally everything else is up to interpretation of your courier Wanna think your character institutes a fair and balanced democracy? Sure! Do you believe your character rules as a king of the Mojave? Absolutely! You think your character just fucks off and farms corn while the Mojave is 100% anarchy? Go for it dude! yadda yadda, you get the gist of it. Yes Mans upsides and downsides are whatever you want em to be, so they're hard to talk about objectively speaking. But common interpretation is that your courier ends up as just the dictator of the Mojave, so basically same issue as house and Legion just with a mailman instead. Sorry for inaccuracies or too much guesswork, I tried my best. (IMO NCR is the best option, but writing this out I could totally see somebody saying a House or Yes Man ending being best as reasonable conclusions. not the Legion though)
@bitterman7258
@bitterman7258 2 года назад
the ncr would be good if they werent changing so often, and also you know if they werent being lead by absolute incompetent dumbasses, but at least to me the ncr is the closest thing to a prewar government
@whyudoit4009
@whyudoit4009 2 года назад
@@bitterman7258 Ulysses would like a word.
@Flamme-Sanabi
@Flamme-Sanabi 2 года назад
Independant is my choice, I'd like to think that the Courier would build an anarchistic state with everyone able to live as they want, but everyone trying to invade, colonise, establish a goverment would be met with blood and fire.
@shotgunatthedisco6909
@shotgunatthedisco6909 2 года назад
@@Flamme-Sanabi Anarchistic Territory, FTFY
@Flamme-Sanabi
@Flamme-Sanabi 2 года назад
@@shotgunatthedisco6909 thanks lad.
@Cockburn2099
@Cockburn2099 2 года назад
If Engineer, the most intelligent character from tf2 goes for Mr House *IM GONNA PICK MISTER HOUSE*
@megalomaniacalHalide
@megalomaniacalHalide 2 года назад
I feel like engie picking house is out of Engie's hope that tech and science are an inherent good, rather than a tool that can be used for good or evil. That, and Dell's canonically worked with shadow dictators before via the administrator and gray mann, so he's not as opposed to them as Heavy or Demo.
@bearandthebull2372
@bearandthebull2372 2 года назад
@@megalomaniacalHalide Also house has the benefit of being openly honest with his intentions with anybody he deals with.You may get fucked over by him,but you can bet it'll be right in your face when he says and does it.No subterfuge,no lies,just "Help me,get paid big money,and take back vegas".
@Cockburn2099
@Cockburn2099 2 года назад
@@megalomaniacalHalide He truly believes that? Cuz in the game he literally use tech to kill others without having to move a muscle
@SolarPoweredEggs
@SolarPoweredEggs 11 дней назад
@@Cockburn2099 mann co gave him a shotgun fuck you expect him to do
@hiddendesire3076
@hiddendesire3076 2 года назад
0:42 Appalachia would like to have a word with Medic, specifically within firing range of their three silos.
@hiddendesire3076
@hiddendesire3076 2 года назад
3:00 I mean, the NCR’s treaty with the BoS and the Boomers is what I see as the best outcome, with Caesar being defeated and his forces talked down at the Dam to send them away.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 2 года назад
NCR with maximum allies may be a cakewalk in the final battle but seriously, tie all the tribes together and through each other's influence make the world better.
@butteredbutter
@butteredbutter Месяц назад
I feel traumatized after coming back from watching the fallout tv show and knowing that none of it ever mattered in the end. It was all for nothing.
@klaykid117
@klaykid117 2 года назад
Amazing work only thing that's missing is pyro giving a muffled speech and then a picture of Elijah and the wasteland covered in gas appears in the background. And maybe scout being the youngest trying to talk about fallout 4 and everyone instantly just starts yelling at him or gives him this completely blank look and he just runs away crying.
@maximusprimetv2912
@maximusprimetv2912 2 года назад
“Holy shit Medic, my chin is receding just from listening to you!” Fucking dead
@longlivetheknot4589
@longlivetheknot4589 2 года назад
This is probably the best video I've ever watched on the internet. Tf2 and New vegas are my two favorite games, so thank you so much for making this. I would marry you if made more like this one lmao
@corporalwolf7058
@corporalwolf7058 8 месяцев назад
Of course the giant with the large gun would say “Time for talking’s over”
@myleswelnetz6700
@myleswelnetz6700 Год назад
0:07 And I’d say he knows a little more about faction elitism that you do, pal, because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no living man could ever best him in the Ring of Honor!
@cupur
@cupur 2 года назад
need scout to talk about his think tank friends without his brain
@happymartin6778
@happymartin6778 2 года назад
Medic: Legion Fanboy Demo: NCR Fanboy Engineer: House Fanboy Soldier: Enclave American Heavy: Good Independent Vegas Sniper: Evil Independent Vegas.
@KnightRaven
@KnightRaven 2 года назад
love the smiling house image in this masterpiece of a video, thank you
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