[TF2] Bad Weapon Academy: Neon Annihilator 

Valve: gas is non-conductive so sry no crits for u Also Valve: gas is a liquid so naturally it can extinguish burning players

⁠@@able_archer01”gas is a liquid”

​@@Pike2Three minutes

​@@Pike2 They are American, that's what Petrol is called there.

Fun fact, that's actually a bug. It's supposed to work with the neon annihilator but it must have been an oversight. Apparently they are trying to see if they can make it work

Some section of the othrr plr maps are also great when you just want to get kills and ignore the objective

Banane bay still is very underrated, both as a plr map and a dm/no objective map.

tf2 fans after getting told the game has more than 6 maps

Has it ever occurred to you that you can just do funny DM while part of your team still does the objective?

How many payload race maps are there anyway? I renember in quickplay there were like three.

And tried to play it off as a “bugfix”

Wait what

It is a bit hard to notice, yea

⁠@bigdapramirez6157 9:35

We should make this the top comment

Damn, that's crazy

no shit /lovingly

wow

BRO REALLY????

No, water buffs soldier too much

@@d0tline468 But it's hard as hell for soldiers to accurately shoot with rockets in water, unless it's a direct hit or beggars.

@@norrecvizharan1177 It's really just hard as hell to accurately shoot in water in general

Yeah

I thought that was a medic on your cross

honestly fair trade, you do something cool as hell, pyro does something cool, then sends you to hell

burning on the top half, wet on the bottom half

@@Aussie_Axe now I can rest. Thank you.

I did not expect FSOAFS to talk about the most controversial dinosaur to ever be discussed and compare that to a funny virtual item

Holy cr*p samdaman?? Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

@@2NDSEATEROFMOTHORCOUNCIL hiii!

anyone know what game that footafe is from? :o

​@@JackO_kidplosion well, he is a honorary Audi, so...

Agree :)

yes sir

Aagreed

Yep. Noticed it immediately.

That soundtrack is amazing

This is why it's one of my favorites. You can surprise people with instant death!

i always wondered if this was the case glad its confirmed

Always really fun to play semi-pyroshark in the pipes of 2fort. You can jumpscare people pretty well that way.

@@xXTomokoKurokiXx A weird bug happens on 2fort where you can sometimes still krit someone with it on beaches in front of each base lol.

Considering the only ones who can take advantage of this are enemy Pyros, you pretty much don't need to worry about that.

You could follow up with the shotgun

@@bruschetta7711 that violates the pyroshark code, which states that one must dedicate their playstyle to way of the shark

why in the world would you wanna make it hidden??

the problem is that enemies underwater also take significantly reduced knockback, which means that you get basically normal knockback on submerged enemies.

Upward is still better, but banana bay is definitely the most underrated

anyone remember cactus canyon? map was awesome

make a hammer with a battery attached to it (with duct tape) and powering a small shark light on the head, so it keeps that electric hazard theme and hammer theme at the same time

@@maigue5077 a hammer with a battery attached. you mean the powerjack?

it would obviously be a neon hammer, very electric

@@maigue5077 "a hammer with a battery attached to it (with duct tape)" That's literally just the powerjack.

one day ago?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I don't see what he's saying in that clip

​@@godlyvex5543 "because that weapon needed to be more useless apparently" (the gas)

it got fixed! eat your heart out.

Better than stock axe and third degree too Man, pyro basically has 3 useable meeles

If the Gas Passer gets the recharge of 60 seconds or 750 damage(WHAT THE FRAK?!) for MVM mode and PVP mode Gas passer has 30 seconds and 300 damage recharge or 45 seconds and 450 damage recharge and counts as "wet" for the Neon Annihilator, that would be an immense improvement for both Gas passer and Neon Annihilator. I am of the opinion that a situational weapon at least needs to have a complementary stat or item to make use of it(Ex Jarate and Bushwaka combo would not work well if there was no Jarate), so the Neon Annihilator with my Gas Passer improvements would be good. If the Gas Passer Gasoline effect also gets very difficult to get rid of, plus "firing" modes you change by Pressing R when active that is Gasoline Cloud and Gasoline Bomb(50 damage fire attack, no damage falloff, Rocket AOE and does Gasoline Afterburn) that would make the Gas passer very good. Sharpened Volcano Fragment and the Sun on a Stick aka RIFT items need to have some upside. I suggest alt fire does ranged fire attack. Scout gets a flare gun stats firebolt and the Pyro a Dragon's Fury Stat fireball with a meter to fill up. this simple change makes them a bit better, plus Scout gets some form of complementary stat on the SOAS to make use of it's upsides better. I also think that you start off empty and refill with 30 seconds or doing damage or when burning, holt alt fire to extinguish other players for 20HP and 10% charge. This makes both RIFT items much better then before. Third Degree, give it 20% less damage and no random crits but the upside is hitting foes can siphon 20HP of health and overheal(as in, instead of HP on HIT, you take 20HP with every hit, AND siphons the medibeam Medic's health meaning you can do 40HP on hit) and alt fire is using your 35HP to do a minicrit damage attack. Would this make it better? stock axe, I would make all stock melees do something. Stock Shovel and Kukri, alt fire is a meter that when holding alt fire is charged up for a minicrit swing. Stock fireaxe, alt fire is hold alt fire to charge up a meter that when full is a minicrit swing that also does afterburn. Stock Wrench is third hit does mnicrits. Stock Bat does Daze effect that lasts 3 seconds on every 4th swing and minicrits(Daze is a 20% debuff for movement speed, reload speed, rev up speed, firing speed, swing speed, switching speed) and put Daze on Sandman ball to make it better. Stock fists, on kill, gain plus 15% faster movement speed that stacks with other things(I also think a new core Class Passive called Rushing Slav where you switch from main damage dealer aka Minigun for plus 15% that stacks with other speed boosters as a upside would work well). Demoman, Stock bottle does 25HP on taunt press R to switch to a Bottle smack taunt kill, broken bottle does not give health has 30 second recharge, also Caber gets 30 seconds recharge to make it better. Medic, alt fire is a Disciplinary action mechanics injector syringe that gives 20% HP that can overheal and press R to self heal. This was a lot of things. What do you think of this?

​@@segadoeswhatnintendont don't forget the hot hand

The Volcano Fragment has an upside that actually applies on every map tho.

The Volcano Fragment has exactly 1 upside: It's the only way for Pyro to actually *Pyro* in Medieval Mode.

something like a pressure washer so it can actually deal damage too, that would be dope

@@novarat4089 90%-100% damage redunction though

It's even more absurd considering that Sniper has Jarate+Bushwacka, not only invalidating but reversing what is supposed to be the biggest if not only weakness of the longest range class in the game, while Pyro has one of the shortest effective ranges of all the marcs, second perhaps only to Spy, which is also arguably the weakest class in the game.

The Eyelander barely changed as well. The Powerjack changed a lot, but it has never been garbage either. The backscratcher is also an underrated, yet consistent melee option.

Yes but it's another problem. Ubersaw being so good makes every other option not worth.

Market gardener

Sure, direct upgrade (with only 1 good option to compare it to) is good

The solem vow is actually pretty good to use. Knowing the enemy health is really good when you need to choose if to retreat or attack.

It's fun finding other Pyro Sharks and chilling in the 2Fort sewer and just playing the taunt

Stun mechanics fucking suck 💯💯💯

How to tell someone plays to much 2fort

@@adversarry I haven't play TF2 in a long while. I thought it was common knowledge.

It’s very situational and pretty much only “useful” on maps with a lot of water, but even then you’re better off with other melees that provide more use

@@abitofananimator5716 see, this is my problem. Pray tell, what melee provides more use? All of them are situational as all hell it just depends on what situation you want to cover. The homewrecker, powerjack, third degree and yes even the Neon Annihilator all have situations they're great in. but otherwise why would you ever pull it out even at close range when you literally have a primary designed for close range?

​@@lilsunny7399that's why the powerjack is pyro's best melee; it provides a function that is useful without having to be used as a melee weapon.

But is not usseless anymore, thanks Lord.

It's not a *huge* change. Getting the gas is hard enough and the crit combo is ironically not as good as the jarate + Bushwacka combo. It's serviceable and fun to nick a Kunai spy with so there's that.

@@NeonBlueLight despite it not being the biggest change, the fact of the matter is, it STILL changes how the gas passer can be used to a noticable degree

@@vinbo1082 Yeah, it's a small subtle change that makes it go from *comically bad* to at least *situational* I do think if the gas passer had a smaller holster speed increase, it might be decent to use with the Neon Annihilator. Otherwise it's more like a backstab mechanic for Pyro.

@@NeonBlueLight Yeah the gas passer arguably needs a fair cooldown reduction, and to make the Pyro spawn with a full meter for this thing to be useful still. In that event, it could be a very useful support weapon to help lock off areas (as no-one wants to go through a gas cloud in a highly-contested area) and also for crowd control situations like where the enemy team is all stacked up on the cart.

@@JeffarryLounder Me personally, the gas passer should have a weaker version of the explosion in MvM if it's attacked with Explosives or fire damage. Say maybe 40-50 damage from explosion + afterburn. And it might be worth while. Or just give an overall fire damage vulnerability, for the love of god. Being doused in gasoline's not healthy.

No, that is a testament to how few maps YOU play on. Not others lol

@@casperryborg4869 I mean sorta? Maybe? I play on zero maps because I don’t play TF2, I consume TF2 content, so all of my knowledge comes from watching videos, and certain maps are more popular for content creation. But I suppose that my not playing on any maps does have an impact so yes, you are technically correct.

Same

Still makes more sense than his plans to make In Defense Of videos on GRU and Flying Guillotine

Banana bay?

Evolution.