TF2: Soldier Has A Secretly Broken Combo... 

Holy shit I am stupid

hey it’s their fault for not putting any spaces in their name

@@elmaxoTF2 the max

@@elmaxoTF2 lol

@@elmaxoTF2 you are playing the liberty launcher the way it was designed, and just saying, this is why the reserve shooter is in the same set Edit: this did make me wanna get the whole set tho

The issue is that it still does the damage of 4 rockets. What this means is you're dealing less damage less quickly and in turn end up firing more rockets. In a combo like this the Air Strike getting up to 8 rockets with a smaller damage penalty is better.

@@Buglin_Burger7878 think of it like this, this works really well with the panic attack as it has a faster switch speed the same as the rocket launcher the only downside of ths weapon is it's damage but because it has one more rocket you can combo more with the normal rocket launcher it would deploy slower and you would combo less the rockets are also unusual as they are faster than normal stock rockets but slower than the direct hit so this really throws off the airblast of the pyro with the shotgun you counter him it also deals less self damage when rocket jumping so it's like mini gunboats it's a combo weapon and you saw the damage it deals when used with the panic attack basically getting over it's big downside of less damage in all other aspects it's better than stock

@@Buglin_Burger7878 I fully agree, there is one minor issue, getting a kill with the shotgun instead of the rocket won't put an extra rocket in the clip, but that's easy to work around.

Swapping weapons would only increase the time between shots, which would make you run out of ammo slower. I don't see how this strat makes it any easier to run of ammo, it's not like you'd be reloading any Rockets midfight while you're swapping.

​@@ziggle5000 Yeah that ones on me, "run out of ammo" as in not have any currently loaded ammo, and needing to reload/switch to melee.

Oh your right! The Reserve Shooter and the last weapon of the airborne armaments was... The Market Garden! Both involve switching weapons to do devastating dps! I agree. But maybe put it at like, 10%? Dunno.

@@smickothesmickest exactly what I was thinking lmao. Great minds think alike.

@@TiredLowBrass8048 coincidence? I think not!

Liberty launcher also looks really slim so it should be atleast 15% faster to change to it

Oh gosh I fear this idea

So, revised video when?

ah, now i understand the combo loads more now!

As a juicy extra, rocket jumps deals less damage to yourself

extra rocket literally does nothing only slows down your damage

@@LazyBuddyBan damage < ammo to spam make me feel gud

Once we find a weird glitch that causes both jarate and milk to cause enemies to spontaneously afterburn. Shit we're back to square one.

Jarate + shiv is kinda busted

I remember 1 pyro doing w+m1 while a scout ran literally inside the fire with the sun-on-a-stick and they killed the entire team

Go on medieval mode and have a friendly pyro use the sharpened volcano frag

@@Goldenleyend o-o

that means more people will use liberty launcher, you know how to airblast stock and direct hit rockets becuase people use the launchers a lot, but not many pyros can easily airblast the liberty launcher, because almost nobody uses it, then because of that you'll airblast all rockets, it works

imagine if they start using this with direct hit

@@egekahraman8985 that's exactly what I'm scared of

Even more fearful is the recently popularized engineer tech with short-circuit jumping which rivals FoN and flare gun jumps.

Be scared pyro be scared But this shit is old and it was like this since the tough break update and only old timers know about this

true. if I got killed by a cow mangler charged shot I would definitely uninstall the game. the laugh would also send me into a deep depression

@@adamlmao6893 Exactly. Charged shot kill + Schaudenfreude = -20% sanity to your opponent

genuinely lol'd

@Leeloo_the_fox Even better on Hightower. You just send it all the way across from your spawn door and wait for the killfeed.

​@@Tumbleflopbro got into phasmophobia terminology

for me atleast, the libbylauncher was NEVER meant to be a primary (same with the degreaser), it was supposed to be a combo-centric weapon (like the degreaser), which is best used with a secondary together, preferably a shotgun (just like the degreaser)(also hence the itemset {see also: The Airborne Armaments} having a combo-centric shotgun) (the difference between a secondary shotgun vs a combocentric shotgun is that the secondary is used as a backup, but the combocentric one is used as a primary {See also: Demoman having "2 primaries"}.) tldr: libby never was good for standalone, but strong with a combotype playstyle. (like the sodapop+fan, degreas+axting/flare, dragonsfury+scorch, oldsandman+oldcleaver, cleaver+wrapassassin)

It's really fun. It's probably the reason why I have a thousand kills on my Liberty Launcher

@@Ludwig_Perpenhente wow

@@AnnaSue81 is sodapop+ fan fan O war?

@@aSmallGreenDot ya

The faster projectile speed helps too

@@shapied Yes but no, cause you mainly want to use this close to mid-range with the shotgun. It does help but not particularly much in this combo.

@@aereonexapprentice7205 I’m kinda scared that if I start to get good at this Combo then I might ruin my aim with other classes/primary’s

tldr: the only noteworthy upside liberty launcher has is slight rocket jump resist. for A LOT of debuffs

My hot take is that it should receive like 20% faster reload speed. That would be actually useful, since you will reload a full clip almost as fast as Stock does (Unlike now where you take 0.8 seconds longer to get the equivalent amount of damage in your clip). This would still keep LL's DPS below stock when not reloading, which I think is an important aspect of the weapon, but it would mean that LL will have a solid chance to actually be able to keep you in extended fights longer than stock, unlike now where you empty your tank as fast as stock mostly.

Who's "they"

so should i use stock or liberty?

I also figured out this combo by myself several months ago (before this video). I sorta just figured that it was a well known strategy, but apparently I was wrong.

So you didn’t actually figure out this combo. You just used the panic attack in an mge.

i used original + panic attack and it gave me a lot of crit kills compared to before i think i found a new favorite loadout (with whip included)

LMFAO

@@taureon_ whip or escape plan are basically required melees, every other melee except in some specific situations zatoichi is useless, unless you are a trolldier and then market gardener too

​@@ЧылгычыОндар-ю1о Don't even have to trolldier to market garden, just have to be good at rocket jumping and recognize a good pick. Especially if you see a good high ground position and an enemies already there, a market garden can help you just win the fight before you start one

Air strike and beggar's bazooka soldiers: pardone?!?

but the liberty launcher makes it shine sure it's really good on it's own but this combo is really good

The low clip size of the Reverse Shooter is nullified by the extra rocket of the ol' Liberty Launcher. The low damage of the Liberty Launcher is nullified by the extra damage of the Reserve Shooter. It's a dynamic duo of combos that only the enlightened have figured out.

LL shines with the buff banner or kritz'd medic making it a much larger explosion direct hit

The launcher in this doesn't really matter, but what you want is the Panic Attack for the superior switch speed.

@@kubaGR8 I know. It's fast enough that technically you can fire it between shots without slowing down rocket firing speed at all. I just refuse to use unlocks against other players.

@@schniemand unlocks are what everyone can have. Refusing to use them is merely restricting yourself for no real reason (unless you happen to play only in situations where stock only is the best, which is doubtful)

@@schniemand sweats when any weapon other then stock is viable(wtf actual fun?)(tf2 is just csgo with rocket launcher)

@@user-25352 i don't care

no way, heroin buddies

Such as air shots

@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 if you count basic calculation based prediction as a skill then yes it’s as skilled as all of snipers primaries are not Edit: I used are not instead of aren’t, so I edited it to avoid any confusion on my stance Edit 2: ok back to are not now that I thought the wording through…

@@GoodlyData86596 ???

@@GoodlyData86596 what fuckin' rocket science are you using to play tf2

@@thisdude4701 kinda late but it isn’t rocket science it’s just soldiers of every skill level subconsciously going “hey isn’t kinda weird how once someone is in mid air, they can’t change what direction the are going outside of turning left/right at consistent angles unless the have a double jump or a blast jump at their disposal” then they put one and one together and “hmmm now that I think about it all those times I have shot at peoples feet, they usually (“usually” doesn’t mean “always” contrary to popular belief) get launched straight into the air…” then the put two and two together “maybe I can combine those two observations together to nearly guarantee a direct hit on anyone I launched into the air by simply predicting were they will go because their movement is restricted in the air and thus their mixup/escape options are limited to the point where I can easily accommodate for all possible options and thus will be able to reliably predict/adjust-for their movement in air with a degree of guarantee that is simply not their when they are grounded resulting in me going for splash damage most of the time and only going for direct hits when I know I have enough confidence in where the enemy will move next, but with this new strategy now all I need to do in order to make someone’s movements very predictable is to launch them straight (roughly 70-110 degrees) in the air with a rocket at their feet to limit their freedom of movement this combined with the splash damage they took getting launched into the air, the direct hit, then the subsequent fall damage may be enough to reliably kill someone unless they can kill me first but even then if I aimed my 2nd rocket roughly right then fired the rocket before my death then I will still kill them” of course I’m only using this degree of explanation to point out what most soldiers will easily and subconsciously realize that you think would be so hard to 1. Figure out and 2. Put this realization into practice to raise their average k/d ratio by 3

Works with degreaser very well for that exact same reason same with heavy KGB for crits

Nah I'm doing it.

Yeah screw pyros

Thanks for the idea, I will now proceed to use this to exclusively target Pyro. I will have my revenge for every health kit wasted recovering from a single scorch shot.

This is why the best kind of play includes variety, I will proceed to teach this to new players to give them a brutal, but efficient way to learn flik combos as well as countering airblast heavy pyros, this is also good for us pyros, we get to practice the liberty some more!

@@nts0n that's...terrible to hear (the scorch shot part)

I haven’t touched TF2 in eight years, but somehow RU-vid keeps sending me these videos to watch. And now, after reading your comment, I think it’s time to get back into it.

LL + buff banner = 5 regular damage faster firing rockets

stock lover when someone use not spawn and become successful (he have/will copy the same load out but switch his primary to stock )

Haha whip goes brrrrr

a Woolen Sleevelet has a config/script for most classes where you click mouse one for primary and mouse two for secondary, just removes the pressing q for switching with just a button also for example with Soldier, you press m2 for shotgun, you press m2 to shoot as well and vice versa ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cRGW4a1K_Io.html

Yes.

he is doing that

the numbers are faster

I bound my mouse to have mouse wheel up select primary, mouse wheel down for melee, and the forward side button (near left-click) was jump. And then the side button closer to my wrist selected secondary. I was mainly a Degreaser Pyro and a rocket-jumping Soldier, so I needed fast weapons switch. You can just hold down left mouse during the switch, and the weapon would fire as soon as it was ready (no scripting or mashing necessary).

Yes but it’s not as funny

Has a little more sustain and is better for killing a small group of light classes one after the other but... Ya

Sounds like a skill issue to me buddy. One day you'll break out of the meta slave mentality.

@@FelipeJaquez The liberty launcher is literally inferior on a mathematical level to literally every single rocket launcher in the game. One day you'll break out of the contrarian mentality.

The liberty launcher is also useful for extending the combo out to midrange, because even if you are a god at prediction, sometimes that stock rocket is just too slow. Even if at midrange you're doing slightly more than chip damage with the panic attack, you're offsetting the Liberty's reduced damage and resetting the spread on the panic attack each time you cycle through

You mean the "Reserve Shooter" right? Rescue Ranger is the engineer primary that heals and grabs buildings.

@@toastman41000ml shoot. Yes. Lmao. Reserve shooter.

You would have to reload way more often, so probably not.

rescue ranger? that is an engie exclusive weapon

Reserve shooter and Direct hit both need more time for reloading compared to this and is more punishing when missing. This combo is a more appealing set since it's far more consistent to land, especially because of the panic attack. This is a more purely fun + skilled loadout than a Meta Loadout

The average soldier player is too used to hideously large blast radius of course their finally evolving

I forget I have a wireless mouse these days lol