TF2: The Power of the Cloak and Dagger 

Since the cloak drain is based on your speed, moving around crouched actually gives you more distance for less charge, with the tradeoff that you're slow of course, but that can be very useful when you only have a sliver of cloak left and need to get out of a sticky situation.

C&D is, unfortunately, a watch that's so much better at getting in the opponent's head and reminds you that spy is a support class. It helps make distractions and making the enemy paranoid on multiple threats even when you aren't necessarily one. Stuff like that helps the team but doesn't get noticed on the kill feed so often gets unnoticed.

The CaD is so perfect for being sneaky and messing with players it's unbelievable

I always loved the CaD, and never really understood the “stay still forever” part. Personally I used it to become the ‘Boogyman’ essentially. Sneaking into their back lines, popping out of cloak in a disguise, killing a player or sapping building before fading into the shadows only to reappear at random times to ensure they never catch their breath. The normal spy is the assassin, crippling the enemy with precise blows (Medics, Enginners). While I choose to instead increase the inherit spy fear to 1,000, killing randomly, at random times with no rhyme or reason. A medic watches me decloak thinking I’ll kill him, instead I kill his soldier and disappear. He watches me kill a engineer next, his paranoia increases and he loses focus until I kill him next. #GiveTF2PTSD

One if the biggest beauties of the CnD is it lets you hide right where the enemy just spy checked. Seriously, if you see a rocket fly into a corner from a particularly pissed soldier GO THERE, he'll never find you unless his paranoia has shattered his brain so much that he double checks his work.

A friendly reminder that this 0:43 is only true up to normal walking speed. Once you’re going faster than normal, it stops draining faster. Cloaking immediately after a stab using the Big Earner results in a few moments of added distance for the amount of cloak you get, making it decent as a way to give the watch a bit more mobility.

Just like a lot of people's spy psychology videos, my favorite thing to do as spy (that you can't really do as any other class) is to harass other players (specifically one or two, usually the best performing ones) so much that they become paranoid. Once paranoid, they begin to underperform. Spy is the only class that lets you effectively grant a debuff to one or more enemy players that lasts even for a few minutes if you switch classes.

Honestly a TF2 youtuber having their loadout rantsona actually lipsync to what they're saying is a really appreciated touch.

I used to play comp long time ago and this thing was extremely useful on some maps, normally as a spy you would need to wait until push or distraction happens in a comp game because otherwise its a suicide to try and kill anyone, so you would wait somewhere near ammo/hp packs and on some maps they are far away from choke points, this is where cloak and dagger comes in, you can stay close to choke and react very quickly when push happens.

The Cloak and Dagger is good for messing around with the enemy team, making voice lines at them, while making them question where the voices are from.

Im huge fan of ghost spy Being hidden alot of time, picking singular targets

i once used the C&D to spray a wall next to an engie nest, then watch him panic spycheck around him, finding nothing, relaxing, and then i just did it again and again.

LEAFS! 5:56

I feel like the cloak and dagger and your eternal reward would be a great combo if it wasn't for that god forsaken cloak drain

From my point of view, the Cloak n Dagger is just usually better on defense, in particular when you are near the enemy's spawn. Because if the enemy team is struggling to get out, you kinda have to wait. But most of the time stock does the job just as well otherwise. And if you're on offense, you can usually just sit on an engie's dispenser to have a more predictable cloak n dagger. Most players don't really check there for some reason.

Most Spy players forget this watch exists _(including me)_ and am glad more RU-vidrs are talking about it, like Soundsmith with his recent video Loved the bit at 4:34, reminded me of LazyPurple's hiftp demoman vid

3:50 you missed a perfect opportunity to use the metal gear ! Sound effect

4:45 this definitely has to be the CNDs biggest strength. The ability to just, not give into spy's most common routes and hot spots is great! But at that point you might as well use stock and the Le' Tranger...

4:00 You should also be aware of what your team is doing, as you'll have a much easier time taking out players when they're busy focusing on them. Additionally, this'll help your team as well since you can take out vital targets such as Medics, Heavies or Demomen, getting rid of ubercharges, damage sponges and sticky traps.

I have about 173 hours on tf2, and I'm VERY used to CaD. It just gives you infinite cloak, and i LOVE THAT. Edit: I don't play spy anymore. I don't even play TF2 that much anymore.

4:18 "no pain no gain mfs when i backstab their entire familly (they didint gain anything)"

One thing I'd like to point out is that using the spy-cicle with this watch helps against pyros trying to hunt you down. You can tank the first flame particle that touches you and stay invisible, allowing you to take advantage of hiding spots that they've already checked. Great video as always!

The Cloak and Dagger, L'Etranger and Spy-cicle are a very great combination to get behind enemy lines without getting spotted once. And if a pyto spots you, the Spy-cicle is a great one use "get out of jail" card. :^)

1:26 the entire enemy team left their position to hunt the most annoying and hated class "Spy". For a moment the prime purpose of living of the red team is hunt him down! Spy, one of the most fun to play, but annoying to play against :)

Jontohil2: says l'étranger at 1:39 All of french people that are watching his videos: *Laughing intensifies*

You could've made the final joke so much better by adding "Or does he (leave)?" and playing a backstab sfx! It's also a great video!

I'll be honest, I've primarily used the C&D for as long as I can remember ever playing Spy. I think it's because I'd often run out of cloak when trying to get in, and diguises don't really work when you're clearly running _into_ a base instead of out toward the combat. Being able to never be visible once the whole way in helped, although I *would* get in those traps of 'waiting for the perfect moment' (which did work sometimes, usually with engineers), but oftentimes I'd just sit there for a long time. Nowadays I'm smarter than that, I try to be more aggressive, and take advantage of the old tactic of "go to corner that they already checked" to avoid being caught after I get a stab/sap/Diamondback crit/whatever.

The Cloak and dagger in my opinion is your own personal cashino. you can either wait until the perfect moment (Never) or take a gamble and decloak stab and then cloak again

To learn the enemies habits, we must know what the enemy is up to. As an engy main, I’ll use this knowledge against spy and maybe if I play him once

5:10 i learned this on my own and after a lot of death its now an instinct to use 100% of my cloak to run away from pyros specifically, i will run to the other side of them map if it meant so, but i have to add for some reason stopping doesn't always work especially against scouts....

amazing video and I love the pizza tower music that plays at 3:21

I think a good way to buff the C&D is to make the de-cloak sound quieter. The weapon is already intended to reward you for being patient and if this change was made it would help let spies using it stay hidden. In short it would trade off mobility and patience for stealth and the ability to quickly and quietly move from A to B without getting detected (if your good at spy that is)

CaD is amazing at escapes, Its my main watch and I wouldn't be able to tell you how many times I end up cloaking right in front of a player only to stay in the same area and watch them chase nothing. There's also those tense moments when players know you're staying in the same area but can't pin down exactly where you are.

i love the cloak and dagger sm

As a cloak and dagger spy, I didn’t start out like the intro. I went “if I tap W, I can technically sneak into the base and get backstabs and have infinite cloak!” I still do that. Also, I use the l’étranger and YER to become the infiltrator

As soon as I got the Cloak and Dagger, I didn't touch the default watch again. This video taught me a couple new concepts for me to work on. Thanks

SPY HAS A GUN?!?!?!?

A hidden benefit of the CND when paired with the yer is that you can disguise while cloaked. While this still saps your entire meter, it doesn't straight up barr you from disguising while cloaked, which can avoid the smoke trail of normal disguising.

4:29 “I didn’t see you at camouflage practice today private!” “Thank you sir!”

BTW, on cp_orange it's VERY useful to wait in the middle capture point

Cloak and Dagger, L’etranger, and stock is an amazing combo.

Cloak and Dagger + Eternal Reward is my loadout. I'm just playing Metal Gear Solid, to just appear out of nowhere, backstab the Engie and pretend to be that Engie, and do so by jumping on his structures It's perfect

You’re so underrated mate. You deserve way more than 20K subs

1:52 Disguised as Megascatterbomb

While i think the C&D is pretty good and has its uses, unfortunately my main knife is the YER so I'll run out of cloak very fast, why did valve add that downside...

3:05 as a lazy man who only wears one color once suggested, stairs may in fact alter reality to keep spies safe from anything short of a stray pipe or high sensitivity phlog who sprays randomly in every direction. Nobody checks stairs. Ever. Not even me, a semi-experienced soldier main who is paranoid of everything including my pocket medic.

It's worth noting that the Cloak and Dagger also has a louder decloak than stock, another of those hidden stats Valve added without telling anyone. So decloaking direxrly behind someone is even less practical.

My favourite part about it is accidentally uncloaking at the wrong time and then running to a corner, but get hit in corner then move around and watch as players go mentally insane as they spycheck places I was while dodging their attack

I immeadetely recognized the music at 0:24. Im just happy that another soul out there enjoyed that amazing game and its music. And if you didnt play the game, i will make you play it.

The C&D is also a great tool to teach people that there's other ways to escape enemies other than just running away. Obviously the C&D let's you stay in that spot forever but you can do the same once you switch to stock. Just need to to keep an eye on your meter, but otherwise you can escape with stock just as you would with C&D. Mostly.

These are fantastic lad, I hope a video about match ups come later, spy vs all classes and how to beat them/ escape from them, similar how uncle Dane did his engineer vs all classes video

i have pretty much always used the cloak and dagger over stock, and thats just because i thought the name sounded cooler when i was starting out. now im so stuck to it that stock feels like the unlock instead

i always remember objects on maps that nobody knew existed or had any purpose so i played medic a lot and for some reason they didnt see me. i even used a spell on halloween to get on a tree and heal my team but nobody cared to look up.

my first time using the cloak and dagger, i just ran around rhe map but once the cloak was close to being deader than my great grandmother, i just go to a safe spot and wait for it to recharhe once its atleast half full, i can run around the map for a small amount of time again i was able to get 12 backstabs total (i just startes using it) turns out i did alot of what you pointed out here

Thats my Favorite Watch. Why is that? Answer: President roosevelt used Watch and then he is vanish forever. Body never found it.

I always use stock when playing a more urgent gamemode like payload but in a more casual slow paced setting like CTF the shenanigans you can get away with using the Cloak and Dagger are unmatched. My favourite hiding strat with the CaD is to hang out in the room the enemy is spy checking and just follow them around moving into the spots they have already checked. Since small movements use almost no cloak I love just standing in the middle of a populated area making tiny adjustments to where I'm standing so I don't bump an enemy.

Clearly the best use of the Cloak and Dagger is to sit next to the Snipers and constantly swap your disguiises and spam voice lines. "The Sniper is a Spy!" "Yeah nice shootin' there." "Good work comerade!" "Spy among us..." "Mmm mmph!!" "POW! Haha!!"

1:20 haha

I think getting the Cloak and Dagger as one of my first item drops just completely fucked up how I play spy forever, but usually when I play spy I just do it to fuck with people and the C&D is amazing for that I also find that while I probably can’t land a stab to save my life I can evade a chasing enemy like it’s no big deal

I remember having an Engineer so indulged into spychecking me that he didn't even watched his buildings so it was getting destroyed by soldiers, demos and heavys everytime he set up. I even hit him with the red tappe recorder just to annoy him. He switched to Pyro and started spychecking hard but by that time i was already on a Sniper and other Engineer and since i was using YER there wasn't any notification in the killfeed for the Pyro to know if i was still playing Spy.

What I usually do when I run the cloak and dagger is disguise as a teammate until I'm near enemy lines, that way I have a full cloak meter when I'm going to go in.

I disagree with the running away part, It's just basically running to the opposite side with stock after motioning that you are going the other way, but worse. Any player with a decent amount of time will surely won't pick CAD unless you are playing comp.

I personally like using it it to make a random player go insane while I use voice lines. Specifically disguising as scout and spamming "Need a dispenser here!" (works best on an engie)

i once used cloak and dagger to very VERY narrowly sneak past a demoman in 2fort tunnels and backstab him, it was amazing, i was literally practically brushing against him, very slowly moving past

I find it funny how you said you were going to end the vid on the ✨L✨E✨A✨V✨E✨S✨ and not even two seconds later: also SPY HAS A GU-

Underrated? Me who uses it always as a thing to troll and gaslight enemies:

I would like to point out the the C&D is ever so lightly louder than stock. Not enough to be a downside, but I've had cases where swapping to stock actually screwed with the people who were listening to it.

the cloak and dagger is the perfect watch for cousing and controlling parranoia, you can stab someone, act like you're getting out and just sit there, wait, to stab again, if they become too parranoid, stay quiet, and then after a bit of time, strike again

I just started playing TF2 what spy gun and knife should I use when I get it from a random drop? Also how do I get the cloak and dagger?

Jonto unfortunately my Reddit account was banned, and it was for a stupid reason.

I used the Cloak and Dagger back during my spy phase (don’t worry, I’ve recovered since).

If you use the big earner and letranger you basically have infinite cloak

there is an unseen danger of using Christodoulou's music in a video: your viewers will begin to *V I B E*

If u crouch u can travel further without needed to stop to regen your cloak.

Cloak and dagger can also be used in ctf to go from your spawn to the enemy’s intel without decloaking

Yo, this video is good. But your intro sounded a lot like the skit from sound smith’s weapon stereotypes.

My favourite ting to do with the cloak and dagger is to mgs my way into enemy spawn and just be annoying

i just sneak around until im about to "decloak" in which i wait a little bit then sneak more

Finally someone liking it, I use it with the yer as to be able to gain more cloak without outing myself

Wow, if compared to your previous uploads this one has improved, first of all, the animation, camera work. I like the presence of progression

So you're saying 12 year old me standing in a corner for the whole round was on to something?

You did not just put The Ancient Gods soundtrack in the middle of a SPY video 💀

Tbh I basically use it just like stock except for when I get in a good position for decloaking and then I wait for a push from my team or the enemies to be busy, then I decloak, and go for a play.

tbh c&d is the reason i started playing spy and to me its stock

I have been using this watch for years and absolutely abusing it. It shocks me that nobody noticed how broken it can be

This guy is great, also cloak and dagger is hilarious on 2fort (even before the recent Sound Smith video) still really like this guy, coolest spy main I've seen

pizza tower music pog poggers pog tower pizza pizza music pogchamp

I almost forgot that spy has a gun, thanks for the outro reminder :D

04:10 when I look around there is no one when I decloak everyone suddenly appears

I like using the cloak and dagger because I struggle with cloak duration and suck at getting the perfect time for a backstab

4:19 No pain, no gain. ow.

Tbh, I think The YER, and cloak and dagger work well

I love your tutorials! I became a spy main because of you and hope for more vids. Love you!

You have a really good taste in music my friend (love that ROR2 OST :D)

this has been my main invis watch for months now! It just feels wrong to play with stock now. My favorite benefit is that it makes me nigh undetectable and unpredictable after i do my kills and saps, like no amount of pyros, mad milk, jarates and explosives can find me. Plus no teleporters allowed while I'm playing as spy >:)

The way you visualize these lessons is very helpful

It’s Better than the dead ringer 100%

4:40 feels like a lazy purple reference and im here for it

Under rated? I pretty much never use stock lol

can you do video about "deadringer is overrated" pls