Great review, very nice machine as I have one and love it. One correction, leave the head of torch "locked in", they all swivel around 360 degrees while locked. If you do it your way by unlocking to swivel, you then risk it popping off if you turn too far, especially with the water cooled torch. Also keep the rubber o-ring greased to prevent tearing. Cheers.
Spent 15 years at work using the magicwave 3000 amazing machine I actually first learnt tig on that set. If I ever have the money to buy the 220i I'm so getting one for my home shop. Nice video very well formatted and clearly presented
I have had the pleasure of using many different tig machines at my places of employment here in Australia. Fronius are by far, The Best Tig welder i have ever used. On AC nothing compares to it. I currently use a Kemppi Mls 230 mastertig that an $8000 AUD Tig machine and its AC is rubbish compared to Fronius. Seriously you dont know how good they are till you try one. Everybody may hate the torch but i actually like them. Job mode i use to do AC Pulse fusion welds on 3mm 5052 Aluminium tool boxes 2000mm long welds full penetration. then as you go around the corner flick one of the levers and switch up to the next job mode as you change from an outside corner to a lap joint. This is where the key card comes in perfectly once you've dialled in those pulse settings you don't want nobody going in and changing them. They still have access to the saved modes but cant change the particulars of the modes. Now Fronius send me a welder and i rubbish on Kemppi and sing your praises more.
@@chris_b_liven they make one of the best Mig welders too. For ally anyway. TPS2700 and TPS270i. Im an Aussie too and thats all we use. We build boats and have about a dozen welders. One non fronius that sits in the corner all day haha
Our company bought this machine 2 months ago and it's the first one ever sold in NZ. Great machine by the way the smallest water cooled torch and so flexible
through digital weld...the main fronius distributor in NZ....this machine was not available in NZ so they flew it from Germany for us....it was $11000. the torch itself was $1000. software upgrade an extra as well where you can get more parameters to play with
I bough a Miller Dynasty 300dx back in 2002 , and it was all this back then , probably the first inverter to do all of that !!!!! This was auto 3phase or single phase 100% duty cycle !!!!!!!!
Love your presentation, very well explained and the most important part is your camera settings, are awesome actually I can see clearly what you're doing , not like other videos that I have seen where you only see a very intensive arc light, and nothing of the job been done, thanks you really enjoyed.
Most of the equipment I have is 20+ years old. My stick is 100lbs or so. Never seen one like it. Never had it to full power even on 1/2" and 5/8" steel plate. And I'd say it would run near full power all day. It looks like a industrial welder. I'd like to upgrade my 120v mig go a good but not expensive tig. Something I can weld aluminum and other more difficult to weld matereals, ( hard to weld with what I have). Great video!!
After watching your reviews on the AHP and Primeweld 225 machines I choose the Primeweld for 2 big reasons. 1 In your review you had said you would opt for it to start out with because of it's capabilities and 2 after reading other reviews of both machines the Primeweld had best/least customer service complaints. It was a close call but I am thrilled with the Primeweld and even more stoked about the super flex lead. So much better then the manual gas valved torch and lead for my dc only Vulcan One Pro 220. Money well spent and Thank you
Really good video. Thanks. I'm not native English speaker, but i get every single word.. very good pronouncing. Not every youtubeurs are so well speaking
This machine looks pretty awesome. With a price tag of a little over $6000AUD, it had better be the best welder on the planet! I nearly fell over when I got the quote. Oh, that's without specking up to the more advanced features.
Please make one more video of this Magicwave ! Show more of the AC settings, and what you like to use welding aluminium. Keep up the good work ! Thanks.
I absolutely love the build quality and the features are awesome. I wish a company would come out with welding machines with the same build quality just striped to the bare minimum with features. I'd pay premium for superior built quality machine but all the additional features (synergic, pulse, stich, multi-process, etc.) just make Fronius machines unaffordable for me. I still would love to own one.
I understand what you mean, but by comparison, what they have included (with the quality) vs the competition is very affordable. It's thousands less by the time you stack up other features and functions. It would be cool to see a very entry level with very high quality machine though. Maybe they'll be the first to do it.
I hope so. You're right they are affordable when you add the features and functions. I'd just wish they made one that didn't have those features and functions (cause I wouldn't use them) to keep the price down. No one makes simple machines anymore. The ones that are made simple are junk build wise. Fronius definitely has caught my eye because of the build quality. No one is making machines as tough.
@@tonybaggett1984 as a fronius daily user and owner, I have to say that quality is very high level, except for the cooling unit pump, wich is pretty cheap
I just bought this maching and I'm a big newbie to Alu welding. I see you played around with the wave forms on AC. Could you possibly make a video that explains the different kinds a little bit more?
Two companies id buy from is HTP I love thier Pro Pulse and Invertig 221 and fronuis interests me. I think HTP is better priced but I can’t really compare the machines since I only own HTP machines and not fronuis. Good video brother, keep up good work
Hell yeah man, that's a plan. Would love to check out those fronius machines and even better collab, ill be in touch with you about that. Its insane that those things have some amazing adjustments. Adjusting EP and EN and changing each wave is crazy cool.
The 221 is an amazing machine and in my opinion the best value. I know as soon as I buy one, Stel, who makes HTP, will come out with a newer version, probably led screen like this Fronius or the Pro Pulse. Lol so I'm waiting. Fronius is out of my price range for now, but great technology and quality.
biaggiwins if you’re looking for 220 amps I would buy it now. They won’t be changing that machine anytime soon. But I think you might be correct on the next one but it won’t be 220 amp.
I recently sold my Miller Syncrowave 250DX mainly because ever time I turned it ON it doubled my Electric Bill and had issues with it popping 60A C/B on heavy material. I bought this Fronius Magicwave 230I. Great machine, way more settings and adjustments than I know how to use. Smooth arc. I paired 230i with Miller Coolmate 4 water cooler and CK230SF Torch. I didn’t want the BIG Fronius Torch, since I never had hand controls on a Torch, I figured I wouldn’t miss out. First project was to make ZT Fab custom welding cart.
@@Joeak74 i think it is actually: the best part is that you get your firmware periodically updated and they add new functions and programs over time. I was able to manually weld 2 pieces of 1/10 mm thickeness alluminum foils, with no copper base under it, with good results, for a particular application, using 10 khz pulse and ac freq maxed out; it' nuts
Best have some very DEEP pockets to have this lil machine. 4200.00 to 4800.00 as of today. Makes the miller machines look like an affordable alternative lol
A base line Dynasty 210 with nothing else is just $4k. Add a pedal, clamps, leads, etc - it goes up. Then add functions and features that the Fronius has that the Dynasty doesn't (that means buying a bigger Dynasty - not the 210). Now you have a $7k machine that still needs to be upgraded to match capabilities. Suddenly you're over $10k to do what this machine does. I think the Magicwave is a better investment.
Ask Miller haha they dont HAVE to include all that. Dynasty 280DX $5500 and nowhere near the features of the fronius. Ide LOVE to own one but I just cant drop $4500 yet of my own $. Everlast 325EXT will do just fine until I'm loaded or youtube famous and they send me one for free lol
Isn't everything you mention at the beginning (the frustrations) exactly what Fronius does? You need to spend another £300-£400 to unlock all the functions.
Sooo… this welder DOESN’T come with all options enabled like you implied at the beginning of the video. It’s extra (a lot) to be able to vary the pulse duty cycle?! Glad it comes standard with time and date though. 🙃
Ok its great that Fronius is in US but where are retailers selling this model ? and pricing I have herd that the unit you demo is msrp $6100-6500 WOW this way out DIY where are the dealers ? Thanks
John Versluis You can find an online dealer at shopweldingsupplies.com/pages/search-results-page?q=magicwave+230i And walk in www.fronius.com/en-us/usa/contact#!/contactconfig/%7B%22contactSelectbox1%22%3A%22Perfect%20Welding%22%2C%22contactSelectbox2%22%3A%22US%22%2C%22contactSelectbox3%22%3A%22Sales%20and%20Service%22%7D
I really enjoyed this video. The Fronius i230 looks great. Is the CK Worldwide tig welder on this units level? Is there a third option I should be looking at?
I contacted Fronius once inquiring about price and dealer availability, more than a year went by they never got back to me. Needless to say no dealers for this exist in my state. They rarely ever have these listed anywhere online to buy. I'd rather give money to USAWeld or STEL, at least they aren't afraid to show prices online.
Man, stel Is italian and I'm from italy; i'm a welder and i tried both the stel and the fronius mw2200: there's no comparison. Stel Is a nice machine, but the fronius Is totally in another level. Then i have to Say that in Italy the stel Is not that cheaper than the fronius: the mw 230 i costs 3300 euros (machine Only), while the stel costs 29xx euros. I've Heard in usa the htp Is quiet cheaper (same as the stel) and the fronius Is around 5k: well it's a bit pricey, but in my experience Is defenetly a Better machine.
@@raulduke85 hi,man. Thanks for the comment. As an Italian welder, what do you think about cebora brand comparing to fronius and stel. Thanks in advance
@@Abu_Daud i only worked with a old cebora tig welding machine , pretty small, 180 amp peak current and it was a dc machine only: it was a nice little welding machine; but I don't know anything about the current models and honestly I don't know anyone using theese welders😅 Stel makes good welding machines, but I'd say that especially on 3phase welding machines stel don't stand a chance against fronius, not cause it's bad, but just because magicwaves have more features (now the Iweld has a lot more) and if I have to spend 8k for a stel, I'd rather spend 10 k for a magicwave. Sorry about cebora but can't help about it; but if you are interested in italian brands I can tell you that CEA brand with the model matrix produce a pretty nice unit👍🏻
I would love to test out one of those machines. I just can't find anything in the USA. I'm not sure they are even available here, but if the opportunity presents itself, I'll see what I can do.
EWM might have serious trouble with the American power supply. As far as I know they used to run only 220v at single phase power supply or 400V on 3 phase power supply.
Does anyone have a fronius cu600 cooler? I'm building my own cooler for a magicwave 230i and I've already figured out how to turn on the pump and fan but I need a few pictures of the cooler harness to figure out how the flow and temperature sensor and coolant level are connected. Can anyone help me because there are no pictures or diagrams on the internet?
I’m debating on 230i vs everlast325ext... which would you recommend...I’m a disabled single father sooo im not wealthy...would truly value your expert opinion
@The Fabrication Series We want to purchase this machine, question is, gas or water-cooled? As the water cooled version is about 1000 usd more, on the other hand might as well....? It seems the torch does get much hotter with AC welding, for Alu, which we want to do a fair bit of. Please let me know what you think. Thanks for your help and for the great videos!
Off topic, but would appreciate your pro opinion /advice. I'm a retired welder /hobby guy. I'm going to buy a stick/tig welder. Looking at Everlast 160 STH. Anything comparable that you prefer in that price range ? Why ? Thnx. Ps. Love your vidoes
@@TheFabricatorSeries i have seen you have mentioned the fact that After your review they include the pulse pro package with no additional costs: Is this an offer for U.S.A only, or the same offer Is worldwide? I'm an eu customer😁
Fronius is a Great machine but $10,000 is a bit steep, Had both Fronius and Kempi reps display the ACX 2300 and 2200 Magicwave, I found Kemppi overall better, besides, I can buy Kemppi for $6,000. Both great machines but in the end a good welder can make anything look great.
ewmism Not sure on Australia pricing but there is a facility in Melbourne www.fronius.com/en-us/usa/contact#!/contactconfig/%7B%22contactSelectbox1%22%3A%22Corporate%22%2C%22contactSelectbox2%22%3A%22AU%22%7D
Kick ass review on a kick ass machine, but unfortunately Fronius' seem hard to come by. There was another review on a simpler Fronius awhile back, and while I really wanted that welder, it was nowhere to be found.......unless things have changed.....
Hello Justin. I'm considering a new tig welder. I've been looking at the Lincoln Aspect 230 AC/DC. Habe you demo'd one of these welders? And if so, how does it compare to the fronius magic wave 230? I would greatly appreciate any info you can offer. Thanks James
That was a great question that ide like to see answered. The aspect is over $1500 cheaper and just a few less features. And Lincoln you can have repaired locally. Idk though, I dont hear anyone boasting about their experience with the Aspect on the internet. That's why it's a fair question
@@DCweldingAndArt I went ahead a bought the Lincoln aspect 230. Oh My Gosh! This is an unbelievable welder! Super smooth and stable arc across the board! I am very pleased with this purchase especially that its an American machine. Yeah its assembled in china but is designed in America with American technology. If it breaks i can take it down the street and have it fixed in a week. Buy American! 🇺🇸💪
@@JesseWright68 Yes. The Lincoln aspect is assembled in China, and hope that will change? However its still designed in America with quality standards that must be met and fulfilled in order to produce an American made Quality machine...
Professional level machine. ( 5 grand price!) If you are just starting out you can easily spend 6 grand to have everything you need. (gas, regulator, rods, etc) You didn't show it doing low amperage welds on thin materials.
For a beginner looking for a new tig setup I’m looking at the HTP 221, the AHP Alpha200, this Fronius or what I’m really looking at is the Everlast 255EXT. Any suggestions? I can go up to the Fronius price range if I really need to but I don’t want to if I don’t have to. Thanks. Love your vijeo’s!!!
A bit late suggestion but as a beginner I don't think you should buy a fronius: I mean it'not smart to spend 5k for something you don't even know if you like. I'd just buy a decent made in china welding machine (like the everlast) wich is a lot cheaper and at the end of the day would get the job done
4800.00 only for you super tig-ers ;] as i would never use all that but its supperdupper cool it`s like the ultimate nerd welder or gamer pc i like both but need nether 1 i do not reckon
@the fabrication series. So I got mine finally. My only problem is it keeps throwing low flow code and shuts me down. I've tried cleaning it out, no kinks in the hose I've changed all the settings and parameters. Everything you can think of. Is there a trick to it or have you had no issues with flow? Any tips? Thanks Justin
hey Justin ,i enquired about this machine from the Fronius rep here in Australia and As usual here in Australia were we are ripped off for everything he quoted me nearly $8500.00 to$ 9000.00 for this machine when it arrives here. i realise this is a quality machine but really . Come on Fronius cant you help us aussies out a bit better than that , so the little guy can afford one ?
in Canada the Fronius Transteel 2200 multi process machine is 3600 Canadian maybe you should look at that one , may be a better price for you could be close to our price.
That's all in distribution. It's unfortunate that prices fluctuate so much based on the demand of a region. I know of so many tools that are crazy expensive once they cross the pond to you guys. I'm sure it's frustrating..
Hi Bruce , i also enquired about the Transteel 2200 and even that was quoted at $5500.00 to $6000.00 and the Transteel 2700 was $7500.00 to$8000.00 depending on what package you choose . Thanks for your reply though i appreciate it . Cheers Troy
Hi Justin , just trying to buy decent tig gear here in Australia is impossible which is why i buy my CK gear from the USA . But for my Aussie comrades that don't know now there is a guy here in Tasmania ( Australia ) That is selling Weldporn, Furick cups etc and pretty soon will be supplying gas lenses , His name is Marcus at WWW.OZWELDINGSUPPLIES.COM.AU . He is also on IG as well . Marcus is an awesome guy , welder owned business just trying to help us Aussies out so the more we support him the more chance we have of getting more and more gear here in Australia . Justin its not just welding gear thats expensive its everything here .Any how keep up the great work mate i really enjoy and appreciate your time and effort to make your videos , been watching since you started in your garage . Cheers from Australia Troy
Steve Sanders They are located in Melbourne www.fronius.com/en-us/usa/contact#!/contactconfig/%7B%22contactSelectbox1%22%3A%22Corporate%22%2C%22contactSelectbox2%22%3A%22AU%22%7D
Hey, great videos man, Greetings from Bosnia and Herzegovina... I was wondering if you could do some videos on Kemppi units, Kempact 253/353A or the X8...
Have you tried clicking any links or maybe Google (if you dont want to click links)? We dont put prices in videos because they might change. Announcing "as of this date" makes you click links or search anyway...