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That Time Nickelodeon Ruined The First Two Winx Club Seasons 

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0:00 Intro
3:01 A Haphazard Translation
11:23 Blander Characterization
14:56 The Animation Got Worse
19:19 The Music Slaps Tho
24:02 Season 2 Got Butchered
27:41 We Did Not Need This

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@THE_ENBEEZE
@THE_ENBEEZE 2 месяца назад
I HATE when people shit on the original animation and say that the animation in the specials look better when it really doesn't. Plus the first 3 seasons looked SO MUCH better in the early 2000s than it does in the special and later seasons in the 2010s.
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
To be fair. The voice acting in cimalune wasn’t the best. Some voices were great. But some were just really bad. I feel like Nickelodeon did a good job with the voice acting. But I’m biased because it’s the one I grew up with. And I honestly love the specials. Even if they did cut a lot of stuff out.
@ellentaylor6883
@ellentaylor6883 2 месяца назад
In my opinion the puppet animation in winx is not the worst translation I've seen from traditional animation. That would go to the later seasons of Arthur. That makes the winx puppet animation look like miyazaki in comparison.
@strawberrymins
@strawberrymins 2 месяца назад
I couldn’t agree more with anyone on this round blue planet I’m so sad they’re not continuing with it
@KarsonSquad
@KarsonSquad 2 месяца назад
real
@theduchessofdarknessofficial
@theduchessofdarknessofficial 2 месяца назад
Hate me bc the voice acting and animation was refined vs the old one
@darkbloom6276
@darkbloom6276 2 месяца назад
the fact that the design of Dark Bloom was massacred too 😭
@K0KUDOU_LOVER
@K0KUDOU_LOVER 2 месяца назад
FR LIKE WHERES THE SHARP WINGS AND TIARA? AND HER MESSY HAIR
@greenstarlover1
@greenstarlover1 2 месяца назад
PFPs check out.
@llysehislop
@llysehislop 2 месяца назад
​@@greenstarlover1 username too
@NezukoKamado-li3fv
@NezukoKamado-li3fv 2 месяца назад
Like she still looked good, but man, they did her dirty 😭
@R.P.Pyotrsovich
@R.P.Pyotrsovich Месяц назад
@darkbloom6276 Oi! As an American with Autism who spent his childhood watching only Game shows like Press your Luck, Pyramid, Wheel & France's Anime Code Lyokô* (*sometimes), and as a former subscriber of yours, I haven't even heard Of Winx club til the October of 2011 & I see the 16th of that month as a special Day for me. You don't have to be THAT nasty about 2011 Dark Bloom.
@Elysia_Sunny
@Elysia_Sunny 2 месяца назад
Not to mention the complete AUDACITY to remove Season 1 Palladium and just use the season 2 design
@DarkDevilMason
@DarkDevilMason 2 месяца назад
it bothered me so much seeing the girls using the season two outfits in season 1, since i already had seen the original italian version.
@MelonTartVA
@MelonTartVA 2 месяца назад
@@DarkDevilMasonplus making Magic Winx into Charmix. As someone with a massive stickler for continuity, that drove me up every wall in my house.
@DarkDevilMason
@DarkDevilMason 2 месяца назад
@@MelonTartVA true, and what they did to dark bloom
@leena75
@leena75 2 месяца назад
@@MelonTartVA some not-OG fans still call the basic transformation (magic winx) "charmix" and it angers me so much, and they will argue that its the correct name smh
@crimson1194
@crimson1194 2 месяца назад
Justice for Twink Paladium
@joeljohansson3615
@joeljohansson3615 2 месяца назад
Clicked faster than riven throwing his boomerang
@77fearnot77
@77fearnot77 2 месяца назад
I will give credit, when it's due and this, this is hilarious 😂😂😂
@chenillesagoe6348
@chenillesagoe6348 2 месяца назад
Jojo Siwa is that you 🤣
@Laef_dream
@Laef_dream 2 месяца назад
And once again season 2 got ROBBED (seriously guys what the hell….)
@cierandelle498
@cierandelle498 Месяц назад
I love Season 2! Nick did a disservice by condensing it.
@brandyloutherback9288
@brandyloutherback9288 2 месяца назад
Basically, Aisha is the Jasmine of Winx Club, but even better, they have many similarities, locked in a palace their whole lives, isolated, desperate for meaningful connections, both are pretty badass, and they're both rebellious Princesses, not to mention they're both beautiful, and capable! Her and Stella are my favorite Winx members!
@Dr_Doomfans01
@Dr_Doomfans01 2 месяца назад
And since both of them have middle-east/arabian theme design, I can see the connection here 🤔
@Cookie-mc4us
@Cookie-mc4us 2 месяца назад
Removing princess Amentia and the whole downland arc is criminal! Season 2 is my favorite season and that subplot was the best Stella and Brandon story ever
@mmgs1148
@mmgs1148 Месяц назад
S2 is my fav too, I really like the plot, people like s3 because of enchantix and shit on charmix for being too simple, but i love it. It was nice to have something in the middle between basic transformation and final form
@asmaaziz9677
@asmaaziz9677 Месяц назад
LITERALLY cuz we were all rooting for them so hard after season 1 especially cuz they'd drifted apart after stella found out that brandon wasn't an actual prince. And in the whole underworld arc brandon redeemed himself and proved he truly loved stella and would never let anyone else take her place, its just :']]]]]
@Legend_Evve
@Legend_Evve Месяц назад
season 4 is my fav season for some reason
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 27 дней назад
I mean, Season 2 was done dirty so badly. A lot of Musa’s story arc is in this season aside four because of her close friendship with Leila. It’s criminal how Nick basically shoved Tecna, Musa and somewhat Flora to the sidelines for Stella, Bloom and Leila to take center stage
@simply_chillcakes
@simply_chillcakes 2 месяца назад
Can you imagine missing 5 minutes of the 4th special on cable TV and you immediately lose where the plot is going-
@Dulce_Doodles
@Dulce_Doodles 2 месяца назад
Harmonix was a pretty redeeming transformation for nick
@lemonyvee
@lemonyvee 2 месяца назад
too bad it was pretty short lived : ( tbh i think it looks better than sirenix
@Dulce_Doodles
@Dulce_Doodles 2 месяца назад
@@lemonyveeSo true. Harmonix deserved better.
@T.a.y.g.o.d
@T.a.y.g.o.d 2 месяца назад
I'm the only person who likes sirenix 😢😅
@pandaworld8166
@pandaworld8166 2 месяца назад
@@T.a.y.g.o.d nah lol, top 3 for me
@Dulce_Doodles
@Dulce_Doodles 2 месяца назад
@@T.a.y.g.o.dalthough I may prefer Harmonix more i do like some aspects of Sirenix. Like the cursed angle and some of the spells like Aisha’s Naiad’s attack and especially the song.
@BuizelCream
@BuizelCream 2 месяца назад
Imagine if Nickelodeon really did include Aisha in their Winx specials from the beginning. She must've had a roommate, and who it could've been. The fight scenes would've been rechoreographed to make Aisha contribute something. Added dialogue and basically making her the most proactive protagonist. These requires a lot of work, I realized typing this down. I see why Nick just did the lazy route instead.
@Superlad9494
@Superlad9494 Месяц назад
If Aisha was in the specials from the start, they could have had her start off with her original roommate, Francis and then pulled a season 4 midway through where she now was with Stella...and that remains the case today...and that causes chaos.
@Igorcastrochucre
@Igorcastrochucre 2 месяца назад
I'm forever stumped at the "forever girlfriend" bit. This is the stuff they were trying to get away when they ditched 4kids.
@Superlad9494
@Superlad9494 Месяц назад
and 4kids really didn't edit this as badly as they edited everything else on their block aside from the unedited Shaman King. Sure some plot points were shuffled, but at least we got something enjoyable out of it.
@humanintelegence
@humanintelegence 2 месяца назад
13:36 "walking backwards is irrational. I'm Tecna" WHAT?
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
Tecna.
@peropero2208
@peropero2208 25 дней назад
Like, her original introduction was 10x better cause it was her kinda being amazed that "Varanda" (Bloom) was apparently from Calisto and she slightly nerded out
@laurimarbaez6314
@laurimarbaez6314 2 месяца назад
All of the specials fail in their own way, and what I’m about to mention is just one of many problems ofc, but one thing I personally can’t stand as a Flora girlie and a Florelia stan is how the 4th special handled Flora and Helia’s relationship, especially when you take into account the continuity of season 3. Since the 4th special very clearly shows them having a crush on each other, but never actually shows Flora confessing (and by extension completely erasing Flora’s character arc of overcoming her fears and insecurities)…are we just supposed to assume that the two of them got together off-screen soon after they met. Cause its not like Nick omitted their relationship in season 3. Its very clear that, just like every version of season 3, in Nick’s version, Flora and Helia are very clearly in a relationship by S3, so when exactly did they officially get together in the nickelodeon timeline?😭
@Duckiana
@Duckiana 2 месяца назад
"this is my friend flora" -helia
@laedollchick
@laedollchick Месяц назад
That was such a great part of her character AND how she got her Charmix too!😭
@natbatlightwood5288
@natbatlightwood5288 2 месяца назад
'Is that the best you got witchypoo.' ... 😶😶😶 Okay i know 4Kids made mistakes when they had the show, but we can all agree that they nailed the trash talking in battle. Even 4Kids Bloom could never salvage a line as bad as 'that the best you got witchypoo.' It sounds like something a 6 year old on the playground would come up with.
@greenstarlover1
@greenstarlover1 2 месяца назад
I died inside from that line 💀
@natbatlightwood5288
@natbatlightwood5288 2 месяца назад
@@greenstarlover1 Same. Like i had to replay so many times to be sure i'd heard it correctly. Again i know they weren't perfect but the way 4Kids wrote Bloom and the way her actress voiced her absolutely dragged Icy for filth, Bloom in these specials just feels so juvenile in terms of dialogue. Like i'm not a fan of the cinelume dub (i just never clicked with the new voices) but even that dub did better than 'is that the best you got witchypoo.' 🤣🤣🤣 Like i know writing is hard, especially dialogue, but there had to be a better line than that surely.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Месяц назад
Same. I don’t get why everyone hates on the 4Kids dub, especially when its the one that got a lot of English speaking fans into the series. Yeah it definitely made a bunch of stupid and unnecessary changes and the studio itself was notorious for absolutely destroying various anime, but I still think Winx Club was one of the better dubs. Like, people who say Nick had the best voices forget how cringe the dialogue was in so many episodes to make it “‘more kid friendly” I still find it hilarious 4Kids actually did sneak in some adult jokes like the Trix calling each other b*tches and Stormy even calls the Specialists boytoys in an episode
@laedollchick
@laedollchick Месяц назад
The dialogue and line deliverance is what made 4kids😭 I can’t even watch the original English version because it doesn’t have the 4kids insults or slang lol
@AASDAM
@AASDAM Месяц назад
@@laedollchickHey i’ve gotta question, by any chance do you know who the singer is from the S1 intro for the 4kids dub? I’m doing a multilanguage and I can’t find the singer’s name!
@Monsicorn
@Monsicorn 2 месяца назад
Something else weird about this. Bloom doesnt have her season 1 outfit when she should in the specials
@lasloapollo4312
@lasloapollo4312 2 месяца назад
Maybe it was too ugly and basic.
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Месяц назад
Am I the only one who didn’t like her season 1 outfit? It always looked like she was wearing pajamas to me. Sorry. Maybe I just am picky about clothes.
@aubreeofarc
@aubreeofarc 8 дней назад
I actually miss it. It made her look like an ordinary girl just discovering her powers, figuring out the problems, acting like a teenager, and being herself. Also, the outfit gives me the early 2000s (the crop shirt top, flared jeans with stars at the bottom of each side, and her wedge heels), which I luv and feel.
@guidopierro4193
@guidopierro4193 2 месяца назад
FINALLY someone who talks about how bad the nick specials are.... what I hated the most is how they did not sumarize the second season, but they completely changed it
@CryogenicPlanetGraceauria
@CryogenicPlanetGraceauria 2 месяца назад
First of all, I think I am one of the few Italians to follow you constantly 😂 Suffering is also shared for us. The only thing that is saved, and will be saved, is our dubbing, which is always excellent and iconic 🙏🏻✨ A short sad story: a Winx-themed musical was recently supposed to take place in Casavatore, but it was cancelled because the truck where the costumes, musical and stage equipment and other objects were all stolen.
@nilsk4720
@nilsk4720 2 месяца назад
The worst thing about this truely was, that once these specials were released Nickelodeon even in countrys where they always had the rights to air winx on their channel, most of the time just skipped through season 1 and 2 with these specials for reruns, making for like a few years the only way to watch season 1 and 2 with DVD, since they ignored there existence
@IsaacKlauser
@IsaacKlauser 2 месяца назад
Luckily this doesn't happen anymore. Several dubs have come out after the Nick seasons, and they dub the first 2 seasons, they don't use the specials.
@ping4d064
@ping4d064 2 месяца назад
i only like the specials as a way to rewatch season 1, i like to get through it quickly cause it feels so weird to not have aisha ALSO WTF DID THEY DO TO STELL’S SCEPTER?????
@Naruto.Shippuden463
@Naruto.Shippuden463 2 месяца назад
Idk
@honestlyboringperson
@honestlyboringperson 2 месяца назад
More balls
@Raggiefoul582
@Raggiefoul582 2 месяца назад
weird unnecessary change
@jakeform1160
@jakeform1160 2 месяца назад
What is awful about season 2, they got rid of Aisha character arc. To be clear: Who is Layla (Cinelum) ? Layla is a princess of Andros, who overcame her inner demons and she's really good friend. Who is Aisha (Nick)? Aisha... is just Aisha. Also she's the princess of Andros (maybe, If she even told it in 4th special)
@JuanGomez-ke5py
@JuanGomez-ke5py 2 месяца назад
Yeah basically Nickelodeon character growth to now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
At least Nickelodeon gave her the correct name. Layla is not Aisha. Aisha is Aisha.
@Superlad9494
@Superlad9494 Месяц назад
​@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll well Layla's a backup for when localizations in certain countries don't allow Aisha....particularly in the middle east. Or else she gets a name meaning "Water Fairy"
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Месяц назад
@@Superlad9494Hmm. Did not know that. That’s honestly interesting. 🤔😌☺️😁
@Superlad9494
@Superlad9494 Месяц назад
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll also in some countries Bloom and Musa aren't immune to name changes either.
@WILFORDCLUX
@WILFORDCLUX 2 месяца назад
Specials 1 and 3 were flash/puppet animated while specials 2 and 4 were actually hand-drawn. Though you can tell that the hand-drawn ones were rushed, especially 4, which doesn't hold a candle to the corresponding season 2 scenes when you compare them. ❤
@DekaNovelist
@DekaNovelist 2 месяца назад
I am so glad you made this video. I had nothing but burning hatred for the Winx Club TV Specials because of how Nickelodeon cut a LOT of important storylines from the two seasons. What was the point of creating those two TV Specials instead of re-dubbing the first two seasons, which makes me sad since i love the voice acting in the Nick Dub. Season 2 got the worst treatment since it cut a lot of interesting storylines such as Hallowinx, Aisha's backstory and Musa's emotional conflict with her father 'cause that's one of my favorite episodes, and I was so confused that it was not added in the Nick version.
@BratzRockAngels
@BratzRockAngels 2 месяца назад
Same here. I would've loved Nick to just dub season 1 and 2. It was my favorite dub growing up for seasons 3 and 4.
@DekaNovelist
@DekaNovelist 2 месяца назад
@@BratzRockAngels The voice acting was the best part of the Nick Version.
@artomapoan2338
@artomapoan2338 2 месяца назад
@@DekaNovelist Worst....They casted very untalented and flopped VA cast
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
@@artomapoan2338Yikes my dude. Bad take.
@artomapoan2338
@artomapoan2338 2 месяца назад
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll You are bad to say that thing. I am good :)
@missvanillacchi
@missvanillacchi 2 месяца назад
im so glad i grew up with the RAI version
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
The story for it is great. But some of the voices? Some were really not fitting. Especially Musa. Seriously! Why did she sound like a 89 year old women?!
@gian7288
@gian7288 2 месяца назад
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll OG Italian version voice acting says hi Which ppl always forget and attribute to Rai English instead
@IsaacKlauser
@IsaacKlauser 2 месяца назад
​@@gian7288Exactly - Rai Musa in S3 in particular sounds almost identical to Musa in S03 Italian dub.
@idontsm0ke
@idontsm0ke 2 месяца назад
​@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll bad take lol
@mmgs1148
@mmgs1148 Месяц назад
Yeah, getting rid of the actual charmix and calling magic winx "charmix" cant be forgiven.
@theesolarian
@theesolarian 2 месяца назад
why couldn't they just dub the first two seasons 😭
@Naruto.Shippuden463
@Naruto.Shippuden463 2 месяца назад
Idk
@pandaworld8166
@pandaworld8166 2 месяца назад
would've pushed back the 5th season too far ig and they wanted to air that since it was new content
@idkkkk7588
@idkkkk7588 2 месяца назад
​@@pandaworld8166Yeah but changing the artstyle this much probably took a lot of time as well. They could have easily dubbed the first four seasons in less then a year judging by the time it took them to dub just season 3.
@BlueBlazeKing
@BlueBlazeKing 2 месяца назад
⁠@@idkkkk7588probably didn’t want dub an additional two seasons
@josheh8286
@josheh8286 2 месяца назад
I remember reading somewhere that they felt the season 1-2 animation looked too old as it was produced in the early 2000s and nick really wanted to make the animation more modern + it seems they felt their seasons 1-2 outfits were too out of fashion at the time the specials came out.
@princesspid9471
@princesspid9471 2 месяца назад
Your take of just including Aisha since the very beginning in the Specials is actually really good, like season 2 doesn't have much plot that is ultimately too important for the general plot of later seasons and they could've at least had the 45 minutes remaining run time to at least include a portion of all the character moments.
@kristof7341
@kristof7341 2 месяца назад
i really feel like people just say these specials are better animated just bcs they stay on model most of the times (well these are puppet animations so it would be wierd if they didn't) but like these look lifeless, everyone moves the same, they have no real facial expressions, transformations are boring and are all the same if you ignore the color of the background and sparkle effect.png
@jaimemijares4419
@jaimemijares4419 2 месяца назад
Mmmm no, no really
@Naruto.Shippuden463
@Naruto.Shippuden463 2 месяца назад
Who else didn't like the shadow of Phoenix special at all? It was just bad. We only watched it for Keke Palmer
@DekaNovelist
@DekaNovelist 2 месяца назад
I hated The Shadow Phoenix TV Special with a burning passion. They removed a lot of my favorite moments from Season 2. I don't know why those TV specials were made in the first place.
@Naruto.Shippuden463
@Naruto.Shippuden463 2 месяца назад
Nickelodeon could have done so much good for Winx club if they had more time
@akiinmoonlight79
@akiinmoonlight79 2 месяца назад
Time wasn't the Problem, it was competent writting
@That_1GayTheaterKid
@That_1GayTheaterKid 2 месяца назад
Theatre kid brain rot has corrupted me. I read this wrong and thought it was a Hamilton reference 😭
@albrtw
@albrtw 2 месяца назад
No, they couldn’t..
@naolucillerandom5280
@naolucillerandom5280 2 месяца назад
Well, they've had it in their hands for like 15 years now, and look at what they did
@leena75
@leena75 2 месяца назад
they literally spiraled down every season with their plot lines, so HOW? ;-;
@Bloom-z8n
@Bloom-z8n 2 месяца назад
Music is nice though..
@harmonetheanimationaddict4419
@harmonetheanimationaddict4419 2 месяца назад
Theme song’s definitely a bop.
@Bloom-z8n
@Bloom-z8n 2 месяца назад
I recommend listening to epic instrumental versions of this.​@@harmonetheanimationaddict4419
@wendywhalims1257
@wendywhalims1257 2 месяца назад
A lot of background ost in specials was taken from s4
@bananabutter8162
@bananabutter8162 2 месяца назад
True dat
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
Heart on fire! Will forever give me goosebumps in the best way! ☺️🥰❤️🧡🔥
@emuanon34
@emuanon34 2 месяца назад
This is the Winx Club I grew up with and I still associate the characters with these voices. These videos helped me understand what was going on behind the scenes and what happens after season 5 because I fell off it because I moved to another continent and they didn’t have Nick.💀
@SnowFlower-ih7yf
@SnowFlower-ih7yf 2 месяца назад
One of the biggest issues of these specials are that they tried to make Bloom the "main, perfect character whose friends are just there". The writers at Nickelodeon didn't wanted to understand why they work together and why everybody loved the original show. From season 5 until today they tried to make Bloom the "foundation" of the show, a person, who can be a role model for little girls, taken away her personality and her little quirks that made her unique, but not just hers, but everyone's as well, turning them into "shadows of their former self". The specials could have been so much more, not just rehash of the first two seasons, but a great chance to introduce each and every girl, their worlds and their interests and their role in the group, that changed their life for better.
@Daryl-2009
@Daryl-2009 2 месяца назад
Honestly, I can kinda see why they cut Tecna trying to be emotional from the Seaon 2 special I mean, what introvert leads with something as powerful as: "Walking backwards is irational, I'm Tecna."
@leycylinappiah5503
@leycylinappiah5503 2 месяца назад
Man the flash animation that started in season 4 pissed me of and got worse from season 5. It felt like they were lazy to properly animate.
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 2 месяца назад
Still wondering about an AU where Disney and Iginio didn't have that despute and if they collabed together instead of Nickelodeon.
@candy_ribbons
@candy_ribbons 2 месяца назад
They could’ve done what they did with miraculous ladybug (which ironically was also sidelined by Nick) Disney + magical girls just works
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 2 месяца назад
@@candy_ribbons The difference is Disney+ and Nick distributed ML while Nick helped produce seasons 5-7 (and consulted on season 8). I doubt Disney Channel would've thrown WC to Disney Junior, and given the animated shows they were airing at the time, I doubt they would've made seasons 5 onwards so vapid--though they might've tried to make it more similar to W.I.T.C.H. This is assuming they did this around the 2010s like Nickelodeon and wasn't the main distributer of the OG series.
@candy_ribbons
@candy_ribbons Месяц назад
@@OpticalSorcererI think winx could’ve found a good home on Disney XD (weird choice probably but I watched star vs the forces of evil all the time on there and that show was significantly girly while still kicking ass) maybe airing there after premiering first on Disney channel
@Superlad9494
@Superlad9494 Месяц назад
​@@OpticalSorcerer maybe not, but at least Disney Jr. actually had decent programming that was more in line with PBS Kids than Nick Jr. at the time. Actually better than Disney...PBS would have worked...and since PBS loves Canada...the Cinelumè dub wouldn't have ended and it could have remained getting more along the lines of the adaptation of Adventures from the Book of Virtues with a side of their other Book related programs, as that would be in-line with the friendship lessons from Winx. PBS would have also gone all out with the tie-in stuff for their education angles...just by having Arthur, George, Buster, Francine, Fern, Sue Ellen, Mr. Reed, Brain's cousin (the mother, because there's no way that any voice of Aisha will ever not be cast as a soccer mom in anything...she's too good at it!) from Sinikah and Mrs. Crosswire get together to work on some sort of surprise for Muffy and they imagine themselves as their Winx counterparts for a joke on the Cinelumè voice cast since 🎵"that's just the thing to doodlie-do-do!"🎵 PBS also would have found a way to actually put everyone in the club in a fun new way tied to their health/activity promotions as well. Bloom- art Stella- beach Flora- gardening Tecna- research in both book and tech because she's the Brain (not to be confused with her good friend Alan "Brain" Powers.) Musa- jam session Aisha- gym Roxy- pets Daphne- family relations
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer Месяц назад
@@Superlad9494 I'm not an expert on PBS, but given their style of programming, Winx Club would probably have been seen as too dark for their audience (particularly the first 3 seasons), as well as lacking enough educational content since it was fantasy. Assuming PBS decides to extend the series (which I'd see as unlikely; they'd probably cut it loose, especially if their reputation takes a dive for having a show purely for entertainment), I'd imagine a lot of the fanbase would see it as ruined if they tried to steer it towards their own style. An educational WC show could work as a spinoff, but not necessarily a continuation of the main series.
@MostSaneSimp
@MostSaneSimp 2 месяца назад
Yassified to death sounds so funny
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
That sounds like an attack you use for bad reboots.
@raw086
@raw086 2 месяца назад
Sad that this was actually a lot of people 1st introduction inti the show so much is skipped out that is brought up in season 3 luckily we have RU-vid so fans can go enjoy the show the correct way
@JalenMai
@JalenMai 2 месяца назад
i feel like the experience turned out to be the same or at least similar, i grew up with the specials and i legit thought Season 3 was Season 1 as a kid. The only things I missed out on were the Brandon and Sky switch and the character development that happened with season 2 but I feel like i can attest to the fact that the feelings of tuning in every day to see which winx would earn their enchantix was universal regardless of the dub.
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
That’s a little self entitled. There’s no correct way. Everyone experiences shows differently. And we should respect that. Not discriminate them. Some grew up with Nickelodeon, some grew up with 4kids, and some grew up with cimalune. Nothing wrong with that.
@raw086
@raw086 2 месяца назад
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Not discriminating the reason the special exists because Nick was lazy and wanted to rush out the story quickly before the season 5 premiere but the correct way to watch the show is to watch seasons 1-3 you miss out on so many great character moments and development for the other winx the specials is literally just “Bloom Club”
@raw086
@raw086 2 месяца назад
@@JalenMai Yes I’m glad nick brought a bunch of new fans to the show but you guys deserved so much better between the strange airing schedule very few reruns and random hiatuses I surprised kids were able to keep up
@frenchhufflepuffie83
@frenchhufflepuffie83 2 месяца назад
Until I got addicted to your channel, I had NO IDEA they had done this lol. That's probably because I'm not from an English-speaking country, but I also discovered that the specials were also dubbed in my language, and I'm so confused because I know I have never watched them
@SpecsTube
@SpecsTube 2 месяца назад
Only positive for me was the updated animation. Given I grew up with the original versions, I honestly have never watched the specials. I knew of them but ignored them because I didn’t feel the need to watch them and I’m so glad I did.
@TitanXecutor
@TitanXecutor 2 месяца назад
Also you would think redubbing the first two seasons means a quicker and easier way for Nickelodeon to make money. The show would last longer on their network and if demands are popular enough, then they make new seasons
@MelonTartVA
@MelonTartVA 2 месяца назад
Sadly they were more determined to rush out seasons 1-4 for the word premiere of season 5
@Monhamd1000
@Monhamd1000 Месяц назад
Nickelodeon is still falling apart as we speak. And as a editor, i could put the time on making a restored version that includes the Nickelodeon voices.
@Medbrat99
@Medbrat99 2 месяца назад
One thing I really love about winx specials. That's what they made Darkar a fake Avalon. This made Darkar a much more interesting calculating villain. Not just ":THEeViL LAUgh dude" and fix the plot hole with Avalon 's complete disappearance after he delivered Bloom . I want this to become a canon for the original series
@Medbrat99
@Medbrat99 2 месяца назад
Even from the point of view of the plot, it can be interesting to beat. Like that Bloom's certain infatuation with Avalon is explained by the fact that the essence of the Dragon inside her was drawn to the essence of the Phoenix inside Darkar, which she unknowingly felt
@WILFORDCLUX
@WILFORDCLUX 2 месяца назад
It did introduce a new plothole though. The real Avalon didn't exist in the Specials but he does appear in season 3 among with the other teachers (not with any dialogue but still).
@StephDilimia
@StephDilimia 2 месяца назад
​​​​​​@@WILFORDCLUXYeah and Darkar's entire ordeal is that he lives in the shadows. He literally commands the trix like 8x in the season saying they must NOT show themselves at Alfea and most of the time the trix stay undercover. Darkar NEVER leaves his citadel because his powers essentially contradict it. He is the SHADOW phoenix. Coming into sunlight does not make sense for his character. Darkar always sends allies or creatures to do his bidding, because staying in the Shadows is his power, origin and is what makes him stronger. Becoming Avalon does not make sense as he makes it VERY clear he and the Trix must not call attention to themselves and stay low. Darkar walking around in Alfea would completely contradict that and by extension break most of the season.
@jaimemijares4419
@jaimemijares4419 2 месяца назад
​@@StephDilimiaDarkar Is too much better in the specials
@StephDilimia
@StephDilimia 2 месяца назад
@@jaimemijares4419 Darkar is not better in the specials lmfao. He's a husk of what he once was, a threatening villain.
@SnowWolfAlpha
@SnowWolfAlpha 2 месяца назад
They got rid of the season 1 outfits too!
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
Honestly I might get hate for this. But some of the season 1 outfits didn’t look good to me. I’m sorry.
@sailingthemwebslmao
@sailingthemwebslmao 2 месяца назад
Fun fact, these specials were my introduction to the Winx Club series
@nicoleportnov3724
@nicoleportnov3724 2 месяца назад
Me too
@winifredeghrudje9427
@winifredeghrudje9427 2 месяца назад
Cool 4kids was for me even though I found out they censored it lol
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 2 месяца назад
Same! The specials were my childhood!
@harmonetheanimationaddict4419
@harmonetheanimationaddict4419 2 месяца назад
They’ve got problems, but the specials are still pretty nostalgic to me.
@thatxiaosimp
@thatxiaosimp 2 месяца назад
oh yeah same 100%. they sure as hell aren’t perfect but they’re nostalgic as can be
@churroverse
@churroverse 2 месяца назад
i like the original 4 seasons way better than the specials, but i do like to put on the specials in the background while i do work from time to time. i also like to watch these specials + the nick dubs of seasons 3 and 4 if i’m binging the show as a whole, because having the same cast makes them feel more like the same characters in the same journey.
@calvinvanbalen2664
@calvinvanbalen2664 2 месяца назад
Tbf season 3 and 4 may have better animation but also worse animation, compared to season 1. You can just tell they took more time with drawing the first season. Yes there are a lot of small errors, but overall it looks on point. Season 2 and season 3 start out great but in both the later half have some rough looking episodes especially season 3. Season 4 just looks weird in the beginning
@mmgs1148
@mmgs1148 Месяц назад
In s3 you can literally see Blooms butt in her enchantix form 😭
@Nancydrew301
@Nancydrew301 2 месяца назад
*at the beginning* i-is that stella's scepter? *by **4:00* get that scepter out of my face! O.O what is that?! And they did change Bloom's outfit....where's season 1's outfit? ;~; i'm glad I was busy moving into my college dorms during the release of these things..... By the time I got settled in, figured out how to use my first laptop and had access to TV again, this was over and the new season was out. I didn't realize the network liked screwing things over until LoK
@heathed4945
@heathed4945 2 месяца назад
I remember the specials being advetised and watching it in secret. Family was very "traditional" Ig ie fairies are for girls what are you queer? Little did I know at the time i was lol. Was so excited for Aisha bc she was new. I'm happy that the cinelune dub was on Netflix in the mid 2010s so I could watch season 1 and 2 without the huge amount of cuts they made in the specials.
@Zenfrogn
@Zenfrogn 2 месяца назад
I agree, i hate the new transformations, too. They won't even transform. They are just swimming around in glitters while already in their fairy forms.
@MelonTartVA
@MelonTartVA 2 месяца назад
And calling it Charmix instead of Magic Winx. I am a massive stickler for continuity and that drove me up every wall in my house.
@superbanimegirl1408
@superbanimegirl1408 Месяц назад
I can understand if the Nickelodeon isn’t for everyone, but one thing is for sure is that I personally grew up with this dub- it was my gateway to Winx Club and even as an adult who can see the discrepancies brought on by Seasons 5-8, it will still be my favorite dub. The cast in that dub is just too nostalgic and perfect for me that I can’t imagine watching Winx in any other dub than that one.
@homabasiri2218
@homabasiri2218 2 месяца назад
7:02 ´Getting the s6 energy ready i see´
@Amber-ny9qu
@Amber-ny9qu 2 месяца назад
Try watching "A better schedule for Nickelodeon's main block" by Evan Rosman.
@WILFORDCLUX
@WILFORDCLUX 2 месяца назад
So is there any way the Specials could've worked better? Should they have thought of a more natural retelling of the story rather than rushing through a selection of unaltered scenes? Any ideas? 🤔
@gregorywiederecht
@gregorywiederecht 2 месяца назад
Well, for starters, they probably should have given themselves more time. Maybe if the specials had been 2 hours each, they could have fit in more of the character moments. The season 2 one definitely needed more than one installment, for sure.
@raw086
@raw086 2 месяца назад
Would’ve been better if they just dubbed seasons 1 and 2
@BlueBlazeKing
@BlueBlazeKing 2 месяца назад
@@gregorywiederechteach special is an hour without commercials, with season 2 getting a second special
@GigiM_winx
@GigiM_winx 2 месяца назад
Winx club burst into colours in the world. Only for s6 and kinda s5 to put them back in closet.
@screamingwhales4031
@screamingwhales4031 2 месяца назад
Season 2 has been my favorite since childhood, so imagine little me's utter disappointment when i found out they were summing up all those episodes into ONE special. Because uh. No sapphic Musa x Layla shenanigans or Red Fountain concert?? This baby bi was not having it.
@mmgs1148
@mmgs1148 Месяц назад
S2 is criminally underrated by the fandom
@HaldjasHelina
@HaldjasHelina 2 месяца назад
I was already 16 when this came out and thus I don't really have childhood nostalgia related to it, I remember being quite upset about the butchering of the first seasons. Great video! I never noticed the great soundtrack so thanks for pointing it out!
@Naruto.Shippuden463
@Naruto.Shippuden463 2 месяца назад
Nickelodeon killed it with the soundtrack
@neptuneplaneptune3367
@neptuneplaneptune3367 2 месяца назад
...wait why is Sky cheating trash? Yes he was engaged when he was dating Bloom but dosnt he make it WARY clear he has NO intrest in Diaspro and wasnt it a arranged marriage he had no say in?...ore did the german dub change that too make him more likable?
@IsaacKlauser
@IsaacKlauser Месяц назад
This person grew up with 4Kids, I grew up with Rai and I remember it going like how you described it here.
@tokisaki_Kurumi_Xo
@tokisaki_Kurumi_Xo 2 месяца назад
The Winx be like: YOU’RE MY SPECIALZ
@cylland5060
@cylland5060 4 дня назад
Omg bloom's first transformation was in the simulator?! They cut so many good battle sequences!
@Chomuskue
@Chomuskue 2 месяца назад
Hello unicorn if war love the video. Kinda wish you made this one when you were still releasing your winx documentary series . Still great vid
@vonterriojones
@vonterriojones 2 месяца назад
Please do a video where you rank the voices of the trix and another one of the specialists.
@moriko-chan1059
@moriko-chan1059 16 дней назад
where can I watch the og version? I have a version where winx even hadn´t a meaning in the dub
@thatangstychick5789
@thatangstychick5789 Месяц назад
What are your thoughts on the winx club English channel being rebranded 😭
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Месяц назад
Very good question!
@poppycartergraphics120
@poppycartergraphics120 2 месяца назад
Okay but where can I watch the original (pre-Nickelodeon) episodes because those are the ones I had on DVD and I much prefer those 😭
@lenelene3488
@lenelene3488 2 месяца назад
On RU-vid lol
@The00qa
@The00qa 2 месяца назад
Lol the Nick version doesn't even exist in my mind. The only canon Winx material are the first 4 seasons, and I only watch them in Italian because the voices are consistent and fit the characters well💪 All the English dubs are a bit of a trainwreck. The only watchable one for me is 4kids because plenty of care and passion went into it despite the unnecessary edits.
@the-nina-beans88
@the-nina-beans88 Месяц назад
18:47 Why does musa legs look like the knee joints are on backwards?
@JuneieBack
@JuneieBack 2 месяца назад
Say what you want, the 4 specials are what got me into the franchise. I knew of the show on 4kids but never was interested in it. Then when it came to Nick, knowing that they were specials got me into it with no need to watch full seasons. I think it’s sad they didn’t dub the first two seasons but it worked to get people into the show. Plus this voice cast is still my favorite.
@cyberhero5559
@cyberhero5559 2 месяца назад
Same, the specials are literally what got me into this show.
@candy_ribbons
@candy_ribbons 2 месяца назад
Same, they don’t hold up but I still love them
@BratzRockAngels
@BratzRockAngels 2 месяца назад
I grew up with the both the Nick and Rai dub. The Rai dub for season 1 and 2 and the Nick dub for season 3 amd 4. I wish Nick just voiced season 1 and 2 fully instead of making specials.
@IsaacKlauser
@IsaacKlauser 2 месяца назад
The Nick Dub is pretty solid imo. It's my second favorite after RAI.
@mmgs1148
@mmgs1148 Месяц назад
Idk if it was good for the show, because when nick took over, it went downhill. A lot of plot holes like Bloom never using her healing again, the mess with "what is the final form" and the messy plot with Daphne
@cookiekiller9478
@cookiekiller9478 4 дня назад
I really enjoy watching your videos about Winx Club, since it keeps me in the Fandom as a whole and often gets me to rewatch the first 3-4 season (usually only up to 3)❤ As a matter of fact, I have taken a look into the different english dubs and I must admit, I much prefer my Main language German as a dub. Maybe it's nostalgia or maybe something else. Still. Thank you for making me rewatch this show on almost a monthly bases. 😂❤
@yungf_86
@yungf_86 16 дней назад
I was waiting for Thomas to talk about the Charmix and Magic Winx. Like how dare Nick remove Magic Winx, and make Charmix into their first transformation instead if a booster that comes with thuer own Charm and bag.
@DeBlauweOlifant
@DeBlauweOlifant 2 месяца назад
I must say I find this video quite, overly negative and I think you misunderstood the point of the specials. It was not to update the animation, the goal was to reintroduce the show to an american audience. This had to be done as quickly as possible so that they could launch season 5 globally. When there’s less time, obviously they will have to focus more on the main plot and side plots will be cut. I actually really like the specials, it’s a great way to quickly introduce the series to a new audience. The quality in terms of animation (I would say that it’s even better than season 5 onwards) and soundtrack is actually really good too. You can also tell that they really put their bets on the project given they had famous actors to do the voices. It could’ve succeeded if they didnt reduce the target audience for the following seasons that much. It’s weird to have the specials be for a 12+ I would say, audience and then have the actual production they did with Rainbow be dumbed down to unicorns and rainbows for nick junior.
@jaimemijares4419
@jaimemijares4419 2 месяца назад
Yeah, the specials are really good
@pinkprincess6136
@pinkprincess6136 2 месяца назад
I love the 4 kids version more than the Nick version because I grew up with the 4 kids version but I like the Nick version too. I don't like the flash animation but I like how pretty it was for the Nick version especially for the charmix transformation. I also love the music for the Nick version.
@rjdarr06
@rjdarr06 2 месяца назад
I don’t understand why they couldn’t call the transformation magic winx. There was more than enough time to throw charmix in season 2. Since the plot was butchered, it could’ve been a Sailor Moon S thing where the fairy-pixie bond spawned the charmix power.
@mmgs1148
@mmgs1148 Месяц назад
The saddest thing is that people who were introduced only to the specials, will argue with you that the correct name for the first transformation is charmix
@sadienw127
@sadienw127 Месяц назад
holy crap this explains SO MUCH for me! i didn't watch winx on TV, i watched uploads of episodes and the movies on youtube. one time, i came across what must have been the first and second specials, and i was SO CONFUSED and I also hated it lol. why is stella just bringing bloom to alfea like "yes she is a princess actually" ?? i didn't care enough to watch any of the other specials because i had already seen the first two seasons in full. i didn't know anything about the network transfer because i was a kid, so it just seemed random and weird. anyways thanks for answering some decade-old questions i forgot i had haha
@StarPichu12
@StarPichu12 Месяц назад
i need "I might commit a felony" sing song as a text tone, that was amazing
@raymondcox8581
@raymondcox8581 Месяц назад
when will you finish the winx season 6 rewrite
@Nameless_mixes
@Nameless_mixes 2 месяца назад
I love how despite how often we debate whether the Cinelume or 4Kids dub is better, we can all agree that nothing is as bad as the Nick dub. Also, I’ve been rewatching the first 3 seasons (I know, what else is new?) and I absolutely prefer the original animation over the HD versions. Maybe it’s the nostalgia influencing my preferences? Idk. It just feels like it has so much more charm!
@TheCrispyChip
@TheCrispyChip 2 месяца назад
Always get so pumped when u upload!
@queenietisdom4681
@queenietisdom4681 2 месяца назад
While I have grown up with the nick version, I didn't even know that there were more episodes to winx until I saw the RAI dub. As most as I love the nick dub with its pros and cons, it did condense a lot of crucial things.
@shineyydesigns7696
@shineyydesigns7696 2 месяца назад
I feel conflicted because I grew up on Nickelodeon Winx and I remember really liking Molly Quinn as Bloom. Her emotions comes out more when Bloom actually gets to be angry, like when Bloom regains her Dragon Flame and does that loud growly battle cry before she transforms.
@jayjaybulldog9180
@jayjaybulldog9180 Месяц назад
I used to love the Winx club whether if it’s animation is on Nickelodeon or 4kids tv. Even the songs when they transform are really smooth and heavy. To be honest I like the fact the storyline in the franchise different version shows that the characters especially the protagonist bloom can be used in situations that’s similar to the 4kids original in the first two seasons that can be more serious in a 4K style than how they were tone down in og 2D style, but It sucks the fact that Nick and rainbow didn’t do the same for the rest of the later seasons.
@Serbian_mapper11
@Serbian_mapper11 24 дня назад
When season 6 rewrite?
@Calipup
@Calipup 2 месяца назад
In Winx club rainbow spa did daphine transfer the power of the dragon flame to bloom or was bloom just born with the power of the dragon flame
@KUROFEYMURPHY
@KUROFEYMURPHY 2 месяца назад
These sessions give me life and validate my feelings. Even if they didn't the content always slaps and brings joy.
@spirelfoz1815
@spirelfoz1815 Месяц назад
Can you do a video on the worst and best battles of avatar and legend of Korra?
@Galistarwater
@Galistarwater 2 месяца назад
Urgh, I still remember the splitting headache I got from Nickbow's season 2 special because they tried to cram so much into 1 episode. Seriously, they couldn't bother at least stretch it out into 3 parts like season 1?
@Tyler2K7
@Tyler2K7 Месяц назад
6:45 You know how 4kids' Version of Winx's 17th Episode had Bloom (and the other winx) punished for sneaking into red fountain? Well Nick could've have done the same! If there version of episode 2 had musa introduce herself, why not do the same as 4kids?
@KalebAces
@KalebAces 2 месяца назад
The specials tho were planned out by Rainbow tho to quote on quote reintroduce fans to the series but in all reality they were just butchered down versions of the first two seasons leaving out any of the serious character development we got from those and from that point with S5 onwards it just got aged down and too chaotic
@JuanGomez-ke5py
@JuanGomez-ke5py 2 месяца назад
They wanted to make Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood
@xenaturner1244
@xenaturner1244 2 месяца назад
I don't mind the specials, but i get wound up with the fact they removed a transformation in the shadow phoenix and gave the name to their base form
@MelonTartVA
@MelonTartVA 2 месяца назад
Oh that drive me crazy too. I am a massive stickler for continuity and that drove me up every wall in my house. Charmix was its own transformation seated in character development. But they got rid of that here.
@xenaturner1244
@xenaturner1244 2 месяца назад
​@MelonTartVA Yeah, i wish that if they weren't going to actually use charmix, they just stuck to magic winx, or found spent the time to make at least 2 specials for season 2 so we at least get something
@KalebAces
@KalebAces 2 месяца назад
@@MelonTartVA OG charmix wasn’t a transformation tho more like a power booster that the winx had to obtain by conquering they’re greatest upsets however yea the name change for they’re basic form messes up all continuity
@MelonTartVA
@MelonTartVA 2 месяца назад
@@KalebAces fair enough.
@melodybloom3702
@melodybloom3702 2 месяца назад
ACTUALLY- Heart of Fire recently got an official release. It's extremely short, but it's available on RU-vid and is without all the sound effects in the way.
@lexis_trash4480
@lexis_trash4480 2 месяца назад
The winx learning how to converge their powers was my favorite part of season 2. Episode 12 specifically is probably my favorite... seeing that they removed every scene of them in their classes learning new spells or training destroys my soul
@aliabbasi7497
@aliabbasi7497 Месяц назад
Season 1 and 2 are uploaded on youtube on the official winx channel I think? With all tge different dubs ao take your pic.
@chaselyloveswriting2907
@chaselyloveswriting2907 2 месяца назад
I was 12 when the specials came out. And season 3 introduced me to the show. From there I became obsessed and snuck onto RU-vid to watch the rest.
@helenanagisa
@helenanagisa 2 месяца назад
damn, I never knew any of that, now I'm glad I watched 1st 3 seasons straight from cd-s with all the episodes on and never saw winx on nickelodeon at all X''')
@aurora4xabo665
@aurora4xabo665 2 месяца назад
One thing that annoyed me much was that while season 1 and 2 was on netflix, it was only for a short time for me, so only got to watch them once, instead of later on when you started going through the seasons.
@thehedgehoggamer8471
@thehedgehoggamer8471 2 месяца назад
*gigels* I MIGHT COMMIT A FELONY ~ Thomas Vasco 04/06/2024
@emilyalucard
@emilyalucard 2 месяца назад
I was actually okay with season 1 being divided into the three specials like obviously I'd prefer the full season but I thought the three specials were okay doing season 2 in 1:45 minutes special I have always thought was a bad idea though the guy that got to voice Lord darkar that was awesome he did a great job
@haleyfolk7018
@haleyfolk7018 2 месяца назад
Something that is honestly just now coming to me is that in the first episode Bloom essentially mentions that she has friends. But we never hear about anyone she knew outside of Mitzi until season 4 with Andy and then season 6 with Selina.
@andrewturner6806
@andrewturner6806 2 месяца назад
I have a video idea, Winx club continuity problems from seasons 1 through 4, might make for an interesting topic for discussion.
@strawberrymins
@strawberrymins 2 месяца назад
I swear winx still gives me a high whenever it’s mentioned or I see it 😂😂😂
@GlamixDollz
@GlamixDollz Месяц назад
Ok so I’m actually someone who’s a big fan of Winx and I actually was introduced to it by the tv movies back in 2012 when I was 6 or 7 . Those tv movies were actually pretty good for me as a kid and I actually was introduced to the season 1&2 till 2013ish and was confused originally by how different both versions were mainly due to the animation and outfits. Also by the voices sometimes from the different dubs since to me the other dubs made them sound older or too cartoony I liked how Nick made them sound like the typical teenager in the 2010s Looking back from the og seasons I can understand why they redid season 1&2 due to the animation as a kid if this aired I probably wouldn’t had been as interested since even though the animation was decent compared to other shows at the time it probably would’ve been so different to stand and also at the time it was early 2010s and fashion then was so crazy and modern that it made sense why they choose they’re season 2/3 outfits since it was most marketable at the time plus ngl I feel like they sorta covered the necessities although they did left out some story lines that I wouldn’t had learn till a year or 2 later. But overall I liked living this era mainly due to how Winx was pretty much sorta getting a lot of attention in the US.I actually had most of the jakks dolls at the time and the advertising was so eye catching that I tuned in to every release of the specials. I liked the transformations and music plus the fashion from the specials were pretty eye catching for 7 year old me.when I saw season 3 and 4 it was kinda confusing due to the change in tone like the specials and first 2 movies and season 3&4 had such a good storyline but I felt kinda weird about season 5&6 mainly due to how childish the story had gotten and mainly confused about them still going to alfea. But overall I liked the dub and specials I just hated how Nick wrote the later on seasons since the first early episodes they released definitely had a more exciting and interesting tone I really hope it gets better for the reboot this year
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