@@altt-check1-2 literally has no effect. Treaty of Lisbon ratified 2007, UK was in the EU in 2022, UK was still using the pound 15 years after treaty was signed. The pound was never going to be eliminated while the UK was (and is) still the home of one of the most important financial cities in the world. The only reason the pound if powerful at all is because of London and it’s use as the main forex trading city in the world. Nearly 40% of all currency trading happens in London. That’s twice as much as the next largest city, New York. London trades more Euros than every other European city combined. This is why the pound wasn’t going to disappear, not until the UK becomes too small to make an impact on it: own, which Brexit has actually helped accelerate.
@@Ozymandias1 Are you kidding!? William Haig literally had two books in alphabetical order he'd bring to parliament and mad libs style he'd pick two random issues to throw at Tony Blair and unleash a fury attack of "where is the revenue from.... THE VAT TAX going to!" random combos In order to create maximum confusion in Blair. Some of the best parliament fights we've ever gotten.
@@agnel47 She didn't claim that he said that. She just pointed out the hypocrisy of caring more about the wealth gap instead of caring about how people are actually doing.
@@agnel47 No, he literally said it's worse off relatively for his constituents than it was in 1979, which is just a flat out lie. Everything else is statistical manipulation to serve a political purpose. Follow me here. In any time of prosperity, the gap between the rich and the poor widens because the poor can't get much more poor than nothing, so if the poor stay on the relatively low end of wealth - and I emphasize relative because poor in Africa and poor in Britain are two entirely different kinds of poor and the poor in Africa are much closer to the rich than the poor in Britain to their respective rich - but the rich are capable of creating a more abundant production of wealth than previously, you create a widened gap of what is possible, and it is very far from the case that increasing the gap is dishonorable or immoral; it is very often the opposite if such a thing can create jobs and secure necessities for more people than a previous time. In other words, you essentially are always arguing for a reduction in the total abundance of a nation, region or system when you are arguing for a gap reduction from rich and poor in a capitalist free market, and when you do that, you are definitely always arguing for the rich to be poorer, which makes the poor yet poorer still. It's just hard to recognize that until you unpack the sewage crust that is the "wage gap" statistic. What you call those who prosper from capitalism without becoming rich is in fact the middle-class. What you call those who for one reason or another fail to assimilate into the system are the poor, and surely they need help all the same as they are people who simply are not succeeding for one reason or another. The problem with comparing it to socialism is that the rich in capitalism can be compelled to pay greater amounts, and they can more than absorb such costs with free market principles, and in doing so can absolve much of the burden from the poor without ever having to directly offer them charity, but in socialism they cannot be compelled to pay greater amounts because the rich in socialism are those who govern themselves, and they will not dictate to themselves lesser means. They can only dictate to others, but inevitably they will nationalize, socialize or whateverize a business and essentially make it owned by the government, until there is no middle man to dictate, at which point collapse is inevitable due to the hubris inherent in all human governance systems.
Honestly I dont care what you think of her politically but the way thatcher was able to handle herself doing battle with these men, both within her party and the opposition is admirable, especially when you remember this was the 1980s and that there were no other female cabinet ministers aside from a brief stint from 1981-3. She never made herself a victim. She never complained about "the patriarchy" or "sexism". She took the hand she was dealt and worked tirelessly to build herself up.
Absolutely true, she was at least the equal of any male politician at the time and quite often far superior. Love or loathe her you have to respect her.
@@globalist1990 yet, you are here? She was very well respected by other global leaders, held herself with dignity and was an ambassador for the UK. Is this true for any pm since? I can't remember any! She handled herself pretty well in my opinion
@@kingsrd1 the witch is dead. Sid Vicious did more for the UK outside the country than her. Do you mean all the greedy ghouls that would gladly be bumed to get a nod of approval from her?
Regardless of what you think of Thatcher’s policies, she’s one outstanding speaker. She’s the type of person who could say the most ridiculous thing but she says it with so much passion, inspiration (and a bit of humour) that I’d agree with her. No wonder she was considered the most powerful woman in the world
I think the exact opposite is the case, I totally agree with her political positions, but when I hear her speak she really sound to me like a person I would never said any trust into she speaks so loud and so aggressive as if she would have no self-control, and it seems to me that she does not have any ability to self reflecting as well
Wow you're a big fucking dumbass. I would agree with anyone who can succesfully convince and manipulate people! I am literally being manipulated and I love it!
This was 30 years ago, when it was ok to hold a different opinion to the Left without being called a Nazi, and both sides could shake hands after a debate.
This was ALSO Americas Congress before the radical leftists and their media shills took to destroying ANYONE who didn't go along with them. The ones who stood for truth, didn't do enough to STOP the traitors who wanted ALL of our destruction,.so they could have their "one world government".......which will destroy EVERY single country. We don't WANT to be a " global society" with a "one man leader dictator". He will NOT have ANYONE but himself to answer to, and THAT is dangerous.
@@dede4004 left and right fucked up this world hand in hand, no side is innocent in this matter, both have been radicalized and emotions have taken over common sense. Both sides operate with mass hysteria, one side threatens with global warming, the other with migration. Both are real problems, but they only use them to gain political advantage and don't really want solutions. I pray that moderate politicians take back the control on both sides, otherwise our world is pretty much doomed.
@@82habbal30 The leftists are full blown socialists, which is the absolute worst of the sides. The death count of socialist policies in the past hundred years alone are already in the hundreds of millions. Capitalism related deaths doesn't even come close.
@Cian McCabe "cultural backwash from the states" this shit started in Germany/France and has spread to the whole of the west from marxism to postmodernism they have spread like cancer I swear any idea spoken in german is by default a bad idea
I think it’s more this comes from era where people could disagree with each other and not think the other person was evil/bigoted/retarded for having a different opinion.
Jim Callaghan apparently one said to her "I must congratulate the Right Honourable Lady for being the only man in her cabinet." Thatcher replied "That's one more man than you've got in yours"
I normally dislike the throwing around of gender and identity politics around for clout... but I'm not ignorant to the fact that it must have taken courage and unshakeable will on Mrs Thatcher's part to as you say, hold her own in a room of men in that era especially. Kudos to her and you for bringing that up.
A narcissist surrounded by yes men kept in power by a sycophantic media and a disorganised fragmented opposition. She couldn't have asked for it easier
They still do all the time in UK, in the US the moment University professors started teaching that words equal violence and their weak-minded students believe it, it was all over...
They are all having a laugh here because she's just announced she is stepping down as PM. Most outgoing PMs have this kind of banter. The idea that they weren't as c*ntish to each other back then as they are now is a myth.
Socialism needs to be shot down with ill humor. Look at what Hilter did with socialism. It is a tool of war and conquest which fascists use to seize power and step into communism.
Honestly though, why can't Europe be a federative republic? It would be the richest, most powerful nation on the planet. Frankly, we talk so much about the rise of China, but how did they do it? By building a united "civilization state" out of two billion people. And now they seem poised to define the next century, while Europe is again torn by petty nationalistic squabbles.
@@damshek lol no, european union is effectively in a civil war already, and the conflict grows which each more authoritarian step, making it federaation would reasult in total colapse of it and id happily contribute, as a czech i wouldnt stand one filthy french in my country as my peer
I must agree with you, Miki. The sooner the undemocratic edifice that is the EU collapses, the better it will be for the rest of us (which of us wants to see a fourth reich) . I'm a proud Briton who likes his European neighbours, but doesn't want to be dictated to by them. Incidentally, describing the French as 'filthy' might be a bit strong, old chap. Best wishes, SeriousCuillin.
@@smellslikethinice1107 The only people who resented her were lifetime losers who never bothered to make something of themselves and expected others to rescue them. Envy is a bitch isn’t it.
Being a horrible person doesn’t make you strong, it makes you weak. Having the guts to stand up to what is put there by billionaire overlords to keep the masses down and say no to oppression and poverty is strength. Funnily enough, Thatcher doesn’t represent feminism or strong and independent women as many in this comments section seem to think. She represents a woman who is a member of the establishment, doing what the establishment want, while disguising how sexist the establishment really is. She was a good puppet really (both in real form and in her Spitting Image form). That’s an utmost sign of weakness, wouldn’t you say?
@@SH-ii6uo nope! Genuine right wing politician, deep in her heart, well aware of her cause and responsabilities. She was great because of her integrity and ambition without any of feminist of sexist bullshit flags that today hide incompetence. She was earning respect everywhere, including Russia despite her fight against the left. A true politician understands responsabilities, risks, sacrifices and has a vision. The ones who think they can put equal everywhere or, shouting bs and things like "he works because he is a white man" and other crap like nowadays, that "politician" is just fishing for stupidity, getying some votes and will never get things done well. I am very much against feminism for example and I have to tell you I bow to this woman. And that, not because she is "impressive as a woman" in politics, no, but because she was exactly what she had to be to fill up her positions - an excellent politician
SH99 She rebuilt the country from when it was one of the worst economy’s modern U.K. has ever seen to one of the best economy’s modern U.K. has ever seen. Isn’t that a sign of strength?
@@0927kira Simply put, it's a way for the EU government to sneak in and start taking over member states, effectively taking away their sovereignty and creating a federal government to rule all members. 1 government, 1 currency, 1 Army etc... just like they are trying to do now and the reason I voted to leave. Pretty much like Hitler, but without the bloodshed.
Yeah, she also predicted that Germany would have a place of power in Europe after reunification. It's why she asked the Soviets to station more troops in East Germany and tighten their control on the country.
Tears missing that marvelous woman. Loved here here in the States. It seems like even her opposition admired her despite their disagreement. She was tough but never unkind and that sort of graciousness earns the respect and a reluctant affection in another. We could use her now. When could we not?
what was marvellous about her? never unkind? you know what she did to this country? she did not admire anyone that was not of financial value to her. she trampled on all those people
@@SailingCloseToTheWind Yes. She saved your county. From a previous version of the likes of you, apparently. How Britain's arc before and after her isn't a lesson to you, I cannot fathom. But then, the appeal of stealing from the productive by pretending its justice will always have a following. These are the "useful idiots" their ideological leaders depend on. Sad.
You do realize what she is saying right? She is giving a horrible debate that makes no logical sense. The wealth distribution is the largest problem with Western society, and some of the socialist policies will ease the gap. The poor will not get poorer, they will just have more opportunities to obtain wealth and will have more social services. This will be paid by the government through taxation on the top 10%.
@@carlosb1 Absolutely right! she was never a feminist she see's people not males/females, bame or anything else, in fact she was not liked by feminist's one bit, she did take the free milk off the school children though :(
@A Cuba isn’t entirely a mixed economy which is what I would suggest. I’m saying adopting SOME socialist policies, not all. A mixed economy between socialism and capitalism is entirely beneficial
She was su utterly narrow minded and stupid in regards to Europe. She never understood that a many reasons Europe can only survive qhen united and acting accordingly. She was a nationalist, ideologist, and deliberstely always split society and accelerated the moral and economical decline of tbe Uk.
Sdm 9137 She roasted nobody. Corbyn was around at this time and did on multiple occasions give her a hard time. Thatcher was a bitch and that’s all she’ll ever be. She didn’t roast anyone, she was just horrible and when a better argument was presented, she wouldn’t accept it and instead resorted to the kind of response more comprehensible to the lower minded Tory thralls who still sit there and clap like seals at her, without understanding how silly and school playground level the response really is. She put words in people’s mouths, presented no facts, and merely insulted people with no basis.
As someone coming from a post-Soviet East European state I have a lot of respect for a stance she took, this is what we looked up to when we wanted to join the West not spineless clowns and socialists we see today
It is a pity that humanity is no longer able to produce such a great politician as Maggie Thatcher: with sharp and crystal clear principles, with a VISION (to bring down communism), strong and decided, but with decency, education and wit.... I miss her very much. I also miss Ronald Reagan.
They rather keep the poor, poorer, as long as the richest don't get richer. This pattern of thought remains to this day. This woman is an inspiration to the 21st century
@@Freedomon832 Lmfao, I do see the truth: She was born into wealth, married into wealth and she was a criminal and warmonger. That's exactly why people like her should never be in power.
She has a point. Only the rich will get richer because of their resources and influences. The poor people can get out of poverty by striving and working hard without the assistants from the government.
It's required in the rules. An ordinary Member of the House of Commons is referred to verbally as "the honourable." If a barrister (a courtroom lawyer) he is called "the honourable and learned". If a veteran (or current member of the armed services) "the honourable and gallant". If a member of the clergy "the hounourable and reverend". If a member of the Cabinet (or of the opposition's Shadow Cabinet) or in some other way a member of the Privy Council he is "the right honourable". In the House of Lords, the three lower ranks (earl, viscount, baron) are "the right honourable", the next highest (marquess) is a "most honourable", and the top rank (duke) is a "most noble".
Outside "Downing street"the day she was moving into the palace She read a short novel by SAINT FRANCIS OF ASSISI 🇮🇹 This novel was about joy armony, peace, love etc. FANTASTIC🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣AMAZING UNBELIEVABLEj
Damn right. Thatcher was supremely intelligent and had grit. What I would give to see a modern woman of prominence now. Kamala is the BEST the left had in their shallow quiver. By the way, Kamala means "horrible" in Finnish.
How incredibly British! High energy, high risk but exceedingly classy and witty and restrained. Canadian politics are dumb and fake and so provincial compared to this. And what a force she was, standing up there commanding attention and staying on top. Remarkable! No government is this competent anymore.
"Well, she's going to be the governor...!" What a witty line. THEN Thatcher's response of, "What a good idea!", made the whole thing 10x better. She was truly naturally born to politics, "I'm enjoying this!" really says it all. Each question thrown at her wasn't beat around the bush but answered with due diligence and intelligence. Even her opponents can recognize this. The U.K. desperately needs a Prime Minister with a sense of duty to the nation as, as she did ultimately course-correct the U.K.'s downward spiral. Mind you, the Conservative Party in the U.K. nowadays is a complete shadow of its former self, how disappointing given that they boast the likes of Churchill & Thatcher.
I love the British parliament. They're basically insulting each other but they're having a good laugh about it at the same time. Contrast this with the US Congress, which is loaded with a bunch of prima donnas who take offense at the slightest suggestion they might be wrong about something.
Try the parliament of South Africa.... its a total joke!!! THIS, this is politics! anc,eff, da, all of them, and if I may quote Boris..... "a bunch of Supine invertebrate protoplasmic jellies,” ...
Troll Slayer she is the only reason your pound is not even lower that the Bulgarian coins because of her economic policies which attracted investors from all over the world
I love the way she laughed when they said ‘Nah she’s gonna be the Governor’ and both parties are laughing together. It’s so much better than the Parliament nowadays.
Great leader and honourable Baroness. To serve to one big nation and to have all of those problems every day, just imagine how hard is it. Rest in peace big Maggie ❤️
I absolutely love how the brits have their parliament set up, racous, loud, everyone laughs and cheers for what they like and boos what they dont, and even the prime minister sits down amongst her peers and others ask her and each other direct questions and interject and everybody sits close so as to have a flowing dialogue, really good show of democracy and being able to have your voice heard, yall limeys keep it up here here i say!
Love your comment but feel compelled to point out a minor error in your comment. Britain is not a democracy. It is legally a constitutional monarchy that is in essence a constitutional republic. America is also not a democracy but a constitutional republic.
+Donald Grab them by the pussy Trump - You're statement, that *_"American democracy is a joke"_*, is built on a false premise. America is not nor has it ever been a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. There's a critically significant difference between the two. One necessarily leads to a tyrannical majority oppressing the minority whilst the other is just about the best god damn way of avoiding such a heinous scenario. Furthermore, I'll hand you a blank check if you can find the word _"democracy"_ mentioned even once in the American declaration of independence or the American constitution.
Yall quit it with the arguin amongst each other, i will turn this comment around we'll head back to the house and everyone of yalls gettin a whippin, i mean it
Appart from being semicircular, the atmosphere is much more negative here, as debates are basically personal attacks between the different parties, instead of actually discussing important stuff. Also, turns are much longer here, which leads to the politicians just dismissing the interesting and more controversial questions, in order to focus on throwing shit back to the other groups.
Stormwatch153 Yet countries such as Greece, Republic of Ireland, Spain and Italy are losing out massively to the single currency. Exchange rate means nothing - it constantly fluctuates. Once Britain leaves the European Union the pound will mostly likely gain more again on the Euro.
Absolutely awesome that I found this. Thatcher made politics interesting. As an American kid during the Reagan years, I watched as much of Thatcher as I could on the 24 or so channels (CNN). I always read about her in the politics and world news sections. Now we have the internet. How awesome. I suppose this is why the British still use the pound, right here. 3:22- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rv5t6rC6yvg.html
broadstreet21 strength for what purpose and reason from what perspective though? I can’t get over how the British idolise a couple of her character traits and completely ignore the horrible politics that she championed!
I grant the part of the Soviets and America , the war could not have been won without their assistance, but Sir Winston was a touchstone for the determination of the British people. Somehow I think neither of us were there at the time and can only judge through the prism of history.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings either way it takes power from individual nations and centralize it in a kind of federal government which i don't particularly like
@@Hjd10 lmao how is britains GDP doing ? How is your crappy military that was said to be "not fit for service and not capable of projecting power" your healthcare system is collapsing and half your country is striking 😂
@@0mon0zz I mean while she is against socialisme?? she begged the French president to join the EEC=EU socialist organization, so is there no hypocrisy here???????????
The one honest thing she did was die, and then she made sure she wouldn't pay for her funeral. She was as thick as 2 short planks and as tight as a shark's arse.
Agree with her or not, she was indeed THE Iron Lady. If Hillary had even an ounce of the wit, conviction, and personal touch Lady Thatcher had maybe she would have won.
George Rothschild If hillary had the character of margaret thatcher, she wouldn't even be married to the person she was married to and therefore she would have never gotten as far as she did
I reject your view. Both are a result of their work ethic, and if she were not to marry Bill Clinton, who is to say she wouldn't marry another influential man? it's the mind set I believe. I do not believe if Hilary had the views of thatcher she would not be in politics or have a career, both were in politics and both were professional lawyers.
Can you imagine how she would have dealt with today’s politicians. Growing up Thatcher was a figure of contempt where I lived, but as the years go by its true that her star shines brighter and brighter!
It was her last day in parliament so she had a full house. A formidable woman whether you liked her or not. Back in the day it was Reagan & Thatcher. Very soon it will be Boris & Kamala 🥱
A simple illustration: Start: poor 10, rich 50, gap 40 Finish: poor 30, rich 150, gap 120 Socialist: "The poor are 3x poorer!" Thatcher: "The poor are 3x richer!"
KalonOrdona2 If cost of living: start 20, finish 60 Then, start gap 10, finish gap 30 The poor are 3 x poorer Not a socialist, but society cannot advance if the less well off are left behind. She had some good ideas, but she went far too far!!
She's mischaracterizing the argument deliberately. Their gripe is clearly about the inequal distribution of the wealth, they aren't maligning wealth growth, but that the overwhelming majority of it is going to an overwhelming minority of Britons.
Laughter clears the air like nothing else. And Mrs Thatcher was Master of Her Trade. The House of Commons is small enough to be cosy and comfortable, not coldly impersonal like American or EU setups.
eh if it was a debate where it wasnt about being in a room of people who agree with you but only logical arguments could be made instead of her strawmanning, i dont think she could debate any intellectual in the socialist world. She probably couldnt debate successfully just a post grad. She strawmanned the socialist argument then fed off the crowd the whole time.
@@yadadi4438 I think capitalism has run its course and did its job but it’s time to move past it. Socialism is the only real, viable answer we have right now but if something else is thought up then that would be fine. The underlining issue with capitalism is allowing for the same relationship we had back with slavery and feudalism to still be allowed and promoted. Slave/master, serf/lord, employee/employer. Same game, different name. It’s time to not allow abuse of labor and for everyone to get what they earned and worked for.
Whatever people may think of Mrs Thatcher... she was a lady of remarkable intellect and such a fantastic speaker.. parliament was so good and entertaining...Thank goodness for recordings.
She was no intellect. Average intelligence but incredibly repetitive in her message. Like Hitler, she said the same thing over and over again, until people believed it to be true. Unlike Hitler nobody in Britain is bigger than the establishment and when she started to think that she was invincible she was gone.
I used to detest Maggie Thatcher but now I realize that she did more to help the poor out of poverty than all socialists and liberals and leftists put together. Socialism, communism, liberalism, leftism, whatever you call it, makes everyone poorer except politicians and dictators and civil servants and government apparatchiks. Neil Kinnock admitted that Thatcher had made the poor richer than ever and helped more people into the middle class than ever before. That's why Tony Blair adopted New Labour which decided to punish working class Brits who abandoned socialism by replacing us with mass immigration.
That's a loot of bullshit, they would be richer either way, the world was getting richer as a whole at that time. Anyways, socialism in norway and sweden prove her wrong.
BountyHunter7520 norway and sweden are socialist, and it's called the nordic model of socialism, use wikipedia at least, why do you need internet for anyways
lunghile theodore Because Margaret Thatcher is distorting the truth. Pure and simple. Socialism has never made people poor, it made some people poorer but all of the people generally richer by narrowing the living standard gap. warriorprince101010 Binding up Socialism and Communism with Fascism and monarchy shows your complete lack of even basic knowledge about this subject.
