Here’s an American made unbelievable value on a bender in stock and ready to ship www.jmrmfg.com/collections/tube-benders/products/jmr-raceline-tube-bender The Amazon tube bender has been out of stock for a long time now.
I was lucky and grabbed one the Amazon benders on you recommendation after your video. I really appreciate your bringing it to our attention. It's everything you said it was. I also grabbed a couple of used dies off of Ebay for a reasonable price. I haven't finished setting it up, getting ready for winter here, but I am modeling it after JC Custom Metal Fab's on here. Thanks, a lot for you time and effort.
@@jake-hy2zb that’s great. For the price it is definitely hard to beat. I never used it with the mechanical lever but the air over hydraulic has been great. I’ve all ready used the engine stand for a engine. I’m glad I used the engine stand for space savings. Thanks for the update.
Companies could make a killing down here in NZ or Aus with these benders, they want about 2.5k US without dies which puts it out of the game for most people and it sucks as you have to rely on others which just ups the cost of building even basic things and with added taxes on importing stuff its just crazy. Honestly i don't care were stuff is made as long its quaility and they have good support - even baileigh now makes stuff from china. Thanks for the upload and review
@@TrailTime. No doubt….Sometimes you buy the best because you need it or want it and other times you get good enough because it’s the best you can do until something changes. Many times it’s turned out just fine for me. I think you mitigated the risk just fine. You can always update the video with the good or bad as you do more stuff with it.
I had my local welding supply/tool store order it for me. I know them very well and I got a great price. Here is a link for a Woodward Fab die on Amazon. Any of the Woodward Fab dies will work with this bender. A few guys have commented here about other brands also working. I did a 2nd video with dimensions. Maybe that will help checking to see if other dies will work. www.amazon.com/Woodward-Fab-HECWFBDT112X5-tubing-bender/dp/B07CZS1XNK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3I848VA1MK6HF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0W57zCe5W-7UuKvoFLKvoP0xheXRuLO_N7-T0Y1CmeGGQn1zAOb8wZWYETx_2Nry5hwojyFfH7eZumTOmgw-bIq6i1E2qUtn3KJy2gFQeqcyjxDlcJ0eGgh-jUawQVExRabg96AOan0Adb1aqxYgj6RTm46Yrhq_hQr4ZeUzWFPrb7vqn3Ly5WLnHo83OWjSy_ju6J_9C2Z-4o6RYGsPzw.8HEzmAWDSUKOmTS5wJNId9Ja3VAXjhj9jUgMQzVPJpM&dib_tag=se&keywords=1.75+woodward+fab+die&qid=1717766275&sprefix=1.75+woodward+fab+die%2Caps%2C259&sr=8-3
What model clamp did you order? What part of the clamp isn’t fitting? I put all the measurements in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zRFfZOhE4og.htmlsi=1YMi6ne5aywjuS_A
Not sure my first reply went through. I got the JD2 model 32 clamp. The diameter of the thread in bungs is too large for the top/bottom plates of the bender.
The clamp I ordered was the WFB2 for the Woodward Fab bender. Did you weld the clamp up yet? The swag off-road guys are really good to deal with. I’m sure they can swap it out for you.
It’s not high quality. I have this 209 bender and the arm has ALOT of play in it. I had to weld several plates to it so it didn’t slump. Also a company named Grizzly offers dies that work for this bender for a fraction of the cost of Woodward fab or any other die
Interesting, you have my attention. Is it the center pin insert bushing that is worn out? Everything else is 3/4” steel bolted together. I’m not picturing much that could be sloppy other than the bushing to have any play. I’m not using the mechanical arm though. That went to the scrap bin in day one. I went straight to the hydraulic ram. Thanks.
@@TrailTime. That’s exactly what it is. The bushings aren’t an exact fit around the pin nor inside the hole they go in so there is so much slop that the arm hangs at a pretty decent slope as it sways through the bend. I added some plates and drilled the holes to be more exact around the pin, plus added some spacers to the mechanical arm to make it more tight. It’s a lot more tight and level in action than it was. I’m going to be making a lot of compound bends so I need it to be tight.
@@RELAXnRENOVATE this is why I started the video talking about JD2. When a cheep knock off company is selling stuff quality control issues are always a problem. I may have gotten lucky with mine the clearance on the center pin are tight. I don’t know how long it will last (especially bending.188 wall) the Jd2 says their model 32 is good for up to 2” .250 Wall DOM. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@TrailTime. I thought about the effect a hydraulic ram would have on the stability of the swing arm. It seems like having it mounted stationary is what gives a normally sloppy sway arm a little more rigidity. That might be why you didn’t notice it since you discontinued the mechanical arm right away. Anyways…check out the grizzly bender. It’s the same as this 209 bender but with inexpensive die sets. That company offers a 1.5” 180 degree 4.5” radius for under $300.00. The other companies are around $500.00 for that specific die. Seems high quality so far. It’s worth checking out
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Trust me. I’m always the last guy to recommend a foreign anything. I was spending so much money on Jeep parts when I bought this bender I had to save some money somewhere. I tried to start this video, giving Jd2 the credit they have earned.
The benders are mass produced plasma cut flat plate.......absolutely no reason that "American" is literally double the price for exactly the same pieces made with the exact same process.........
I’m making a video next week titled using the $209 Amazon Roll cage tube bender. It will be the one to watch. This was a introduction to the bender. I’ll answer all the questions I get. Thanks for the feedback
Had one of these and wasn't very impressed. Lose tolerances and poor machining. Guess you get what you pay for 🤷♂️. Ended up selling it and buying the REV 2 complete bender from Swag Offroad. Couldn't be happier with it. I'll shell out a few more Biden bucks for a product made in the US.
Awesome video, I've been looking at some benders and for me just starting out I think this would be perfect! Glad it popped up on my recommended! Thanks for the info!
It’s crazy how fast and expensive used benders go for on marketplace in my area. I have been wanting a bender for a very long time. I almost regret not getting the JD 2 but this cheep bender works and I’m trying to put the money in Jeep parts instead.
The mounting clamps that hold the hydraulic ram to the bender only accept a 80mm outside diameter hydraulic ram. The only place that sells a 80mm ram is Harbor Freight, the rams that are sold on Amazon are 78mm and will not work with any of the Swag Off-road bender ram clamps. I should have explained it a bit better in the video. Thanks for asking.👍🏼
@@TrailTime. You explained it perfectly what I'm saying is tig weld inside the clamping area of the swag clamp to decrease the size of the opening from 80mm to 78mm best you can and grind it to fit
@@bassinshankles It definitely crossed my mind, I decided to use the 78mm air over hydraulic ram on my engine hoist. I get a lot more use out of the engine hoist and I really enjoy having it air powered now.
If only I didn’t say “Woodward Fab” a thousand times!! I cringe when I watch my videos. In my mind I feel like i said something great but then…..nope! Every time I think I have the music turned down in the edit it always feels to loud!! It happens to me almost every time.
@@TrailTime.if your editing software has a DB reading for individual tracks. Aim for voice to hit -10 on average and music to hit -25 on average or even lower if needed when there’s talking.
My questions are how thick are the bender frames? What is the max angle the dies can bend. Looks like 90* only. My JD2 dies are 180* and the frame is 3/4" thick. Also the degree dial is easy to read so no second wheel needed. Also what is the pin diameter? JD is 7/8" for all but the center which is fatter.
No heat. The .120 wall was easy cold. I definitely had my safety squints and a grin on my face when I was bending the .188 wall. I knew I was maxing it out.
Yes the WFB2 is the swag clamp I got and worked perfectly. If you ever need to do .188 wall thickness I’d strongly consider the www.swagoffroad.com/products/swag-machined-tubing-bender-air-hydraulic-ram-mount?variant=41836911722681
Awesome video brother. As an average guy, I have to pick and choose what to put my money into. I'm all about buying nice tools when it makes sense, but I'm not a fab shop so buying a 1k+ tube bending setup doesn't make much sense. This is great!
@@buggynutzoffroad5866 they also make a nice tube bender. Here are both links. www.jmrmfg.com/collections/apparel/products/raceline-degree-wheel www.jmrmfg.com/products/jmr-raceline-tube-bender
@@TrailTime. I live about 1.5 hrs from JD Square and they allow local pick ups. In your opinion is going the Amazon / Woodward fab rt still worth it if I can get a JD2 without paying outrageous shipping?
@@buggynutzoffroad5866 I’d definitely get the jd2. The shipping is what put me over the top on the decision. The Amazon one works well for me so far but I’d rather support jd2. My $.02
2” .120 wall would be no problem. I’ve only been bending 1 3/4” DOM. Both .120 and .188 Wall thickness. The bender will handle 2” with the proper die. I use adjustable roller stands to support the tube during setup while confirming the tube is in plane. Once a bend starts there is plenty of force holding it during the bend. After a bend i position the roller stands under the new shape and release the die clamp. The engine stand has no problem holding the weight.
I could have explained it better. The only part that is underrated is the Ram mount. swag off-road has a better one that’s rated for up to .188 wall thickness. The one I have is only good enough for up to .120 wall. Thanks for watching.
@@outdoorgrowin I’d recommend taking a little bit of the black oxide coating off of the internal diameter of your die, since it is obviously a bit too thick
@@hellapellanyc6465 18g is like 0.0478” wall thickness. Most of the dies manufacturers start their Recommended Wall Thickness Range at 0.058” and go up to .188-.250 or solid bar depending on the tube diameter.
I looked at some budget benders. How many of them are rated to bend mild steel tubing with 1.75 od and a minimum wall thickness of .118 per nhra? Not all of them. And that size you better be hitting the gym a lot and have a cheater bar 20 ft long to bend by hand. Even some of the larger table top units with a bottle jack don’t meet the requirement. I get if you are just building bumpers of light bars. But roll cages are about safety, not about being thrifty or cheap when your life may be saved by a good cage.
Definitely use the rulebook of the sanctioning body that you will be participating in. Bending .120 isn’t hard on a mechanical bender of this design. A 4’ leverage bar is more than enough for 1.750 x .120 DOM tubing on a mechanical bender.
Hello friend, I'm in Brazil. I already have the bending machine and I only need the hydraulic part that you show in the video. What is the price delivered here to my address in Brazil.
@@TrailTime. I'm not trying to be "one of those guys" talking out their... Just sayin, when your inching up on an angle it's a lot easier to get it right by hand. Once you go too far.. You're too far is all. Happy Wheelin!!
