The $25,000 Jeep That Could Turn The Company Around! 

Jeep already builds a $25,000 Jeep, its called the Wrangler. Look, when you continue to use the same parts, same engineering, year after year those costs go down. The Wrangler with a simple gas engine should be available for sale at $25,000. The suspension is the same, the axles are the same, the body panels are the same, and you don't need to incorporate loads of technology. Basic seating surfaces and a soft top that only costs them $500 to make. Mismanagement is the reason the Wrangler costs $70K.

Come and see the new $25 000 Jepp today! Starting as low as $42 800 !!!!!!! 9.8%apr. Seriously how can you still trust announced prices years before launch, it's always 50% more when it hit the street.

The wrangler should be the $25k Jeep that saves the day.

What will help Jeep is putting out a quality product at an affordable price.

Stellantis is in trouble, not just Jeep. They have 14 different brands.....too many to maintain. Stellantis MSRP's in the US are running $10K higher than the industry average. My prediction is that Jeep and Ram will end up with new owners after Stellantis fails. Tavares is just not cutting it.

Axed the beloved Hemi, Challenger, Charger, and TRX. Raised prices on everything. Didn't release a new Dakota or mini trucklette to fight the Maverick. Didn't put the 392 or Hurricane engine in the Gladiator but DID take away its diesel option. Let the Bronco beat the Wrangler on value. Spent MILLIONS on developing/promoting the RAM REV Concept only to have 90% of its features axed on the production model. Amazingly these things didn't improve sales 🤔

Problem is if they put out something new for $25k and there's any sort of demand, dealerships will jack the price up so it's no longer a value to most.

Jeeps are to expensive and that's why the Jeep is having issues

All new car makers are convincing me that I really don't need--or want--a new car. I far prefer my used ones!

I purchased both kids Renegade Trailhawks for $24k out the door. Jeep already had a $25,000 vehicle...but those Stellantis idiots got greedy and did this to themselves. (For the haters...the Renegades are 4 & 5 years old without a single issue.) I still contend that the Renegade & Cherokee should have stayed and the Compass should have been axed.

I seriously doubt this will help Jeep in any way.

Don’t they already have such compact SUV like Compass and Renegade??? Which they jack up the price way above 30k which no one buy? 😅

They should have kept the Renegade and worked on powertrain performance, efficiency and quality.

What they are trying to charge for a Jeep is completely insane..haven’t seen any discounts in the north

As others have said, they need a cheap base Wrangler. Not this thing...

The only way to turn them around is quality control. Their parts are junk and they know it.

Dealerships don't see a 25,000 jeep. A base model Wrangler should be around 25-27 max. The pentastar is long in the tooth. The prices for lower trims don't really equate to anything breathtaking in terms of improvement. It shouldn't it's a base model Wrangler that has got away from it's core buyer.

“Let’s build another crossover!” “Brilliant!” - Some dumbasses in a board room

You highlighted one of the underlying problems and may not even realize it. The dealership pricing model is just gross and vague at best. They are filled with salespersons who are trained more on sales tactics than the actual vehicle they're selling. One reason I prefer Tesla and Rivian is the transparent buying process. The traditional dealership model is a hot mess. I feel anxious, on guard, and defensive everytime I walk into a dealership. Doesn't matter the brand.

like i said before i love my 2023 trailhawk renegade,i did put the 1.3 turbo through hell a few days ago.i went from home in nv to slc utah, round trip 430 miles,outside temp 101 degrees going back and forth across salt flats at sustained speed of 80mph.engine rpms were 2600 at 80mph stll had pretty good power left,average mpg 27.4 so im happy with that and the fact it didnt blow up.i did have the breakin oil changed the next day 3270 miles,it was 1/2 qt low,mechanic said was to be expected with the temps we are having,but i think for longitivity i will be changing oil every 3=3500 miles which for me is twice a year.all in all very happy with stubby

Those aren't Jeeps they are a rebadged Fiat

Jeep is slowly becoming an unrecognizable brand to me. I look at the Wagoneer and Wagoneer S and i ask where the "Jeep" is. To me Jeep has always been Rugged Utility, not posh American Luxery. Keep Jeep starting prices below 50,000. Keep them as simple as possible with utalitarian styling. Swap the grill of the Wagoneer and Wagoneer S and rebadge them as Chrysler products. Make Chrysler the American Luxery brand and Jeep as the affordable rugged SUV brand. If they want, they can make a new Wagoneer based on the current one, but stripped down with function in mind, rugged plastics instead of posh soft touch materials, make sure the cargo area is designed to be used for messes. Obviously moving upmarket with Jeep, in particular the Wrangler, has worked out poorly with that cliff of a sales drop off. There Stellantis, I fixed your self inflicted issues and revived your minivan life support brand as well.

They can't build a reliable $100k Jeep and they think they can build a $25k one?

I drove a 4x4 Fiat Panda in Italy. It was buzzy, small, manual windows, 6 speed manual transmission, and frankly a lot of fun to drive. It had a smaller turning radius than my wife’s Prius, and soaked up cobblestone roads like they were glass smooth. But that kind of thing won’t sell anywhere outside of Quebec in North America.

You guys just tested that electric UTV with 100 miles of range that cost $37,000...i doubt dodge can build an EV and sell it for 25k.

Interest rates are up. Jeep prices are in the stratosphere. People simply can’t afford the asking price anymore!

Remember these Jeeps are badge engineered so Hybrids and electric power is already availabl;e across the stellantis brands. Peugeot 2008 and 3008 are the donor vehicles for Jeep... Opel... Vauxhall and Citroen.

8:00 gotcha everybody halfway through the video 😂

If they made something like the old Suzuki samurai with body on frame with a small 4. Cylinder and 6 speed manual as well offer 5-speed auto transmission they would sell !!! just offer 2 models but keep it simple no extreme bells and whistles .. just Air conditioning Am FM stereo, simple cloth seats no electric crap and manual windows but of course they would have to keep safety airbags and such but I think something like it would sell!!!

Definitely need to get out a compact pickup truck

Ask me if I feel bad… 😂 They did this to themselves. I’ve said this before but merge Dodge and Ram, stop trying to make Jeep/Wagoner a luxury brand. Fiat can be killed in N America. Chrysler is the only one I’m not sure. I could see them making it a high end trim level but if they want to make it a separate brand they have to invest. Or Kill Maserati and Alfa and rebrand some of those models as Chryslers.

All jeep has to do is make a usdm suzuki jimny copy the formula to a tee and I’d seriously consider getting one

Give us a de-contented Wrangler at a low price. No screens, roll up windows, manual transmissions

The issue is not the Renegade. The problem is Stellantis pricing across the board. Idk why you are making the whole argument about the Renegade.

I have a feeling its just gonna be a rebadged hornet

The wrangler used to be affordable. Now it’s crazy expensive but the parts are basically still the same with a cheap interior so idk what they’re thinking lol

Well 50g for a basic jeep is going to be its downfall. Learning a lesson from the success of the maverick and making an affordable jeep again is a great idea.

The Compass was supposed to be a cheap vehicle, then it sold more than expected and price went up. Make a Compass with a V6 and a transfer case for 25K and they wouldn't be able to make enough.

14 car brands that are wonderfully reliable for downhill travel.

Hey guys... quick comment from myself... I really enjoy your show by the way. The Renegade was a great stepping stone into higher-priced Jeep products. I am a Wrangler -Grand Cherokee guy, I have two of each in my life and use them the way they were intended. Us seasoned Jeep guys knew the Renegade was a little turd... BUT... like my five children have said..." we are just getting by and saving money for a four-door Wrangler for our family"! Keep a cheapy out there Carlos!! Geeez

I agree with what others have said. If Stellantis offered a stripped down, 2-door, basic Jeep Wrangler for $25,000, they would probably sell them faster than they could get them off the assembly line. But as long as people are willing to keep paying higher and higher prices for them, why wouldn't Jeep keep raising the prices?

Ditch the luxury crap and all the tech and go back to the basics, the jeep we used to know and love.

The wrangler no A/C, no radio, no safety features, just a plain Jane 4x4 should be 25,000. 27,000 with AC

No way Jeep can made a cheap version without falling apart in two years

In my day Jeep's were not everyday drivers, family cars. They were recreational niche vehicles. No one ever thought of a CJ with 30k of electronics.

I currently have 2 Jeep Renegades: a 2021 Trailhawk for my wife and a 2022 (I think its an unlimited) for my son. I LOVE the 1.3L turbo engine (so far.) Its got plenty of power for this vehicle and it gets roughly 30 MPG going 70 miles an hour down the freeways (on a 45-ish mph road going straight it creeps up near 40mpg.) There is plenty of room inside (I am a pretty big guy) and its easy to get into and out of (as I get older, this becomes a BIG DEAL.) Overall, I like them, but do have some worries and some dislikes. First is the assembly quality on my wife's car. It had issues the very day we took it home that the dealer blamed on loose cable connectors (he mumbled something about "that little computer on wheels.") We also have continuing issues with the panoramic sunroof (I think its been in the shop at least 3 times and maybe 4 for issues and it was delayed getting shipped to us from the factory/body shop after we ordered it for weeks.) So far, the 2022 has had no QC issues. Next is the CRAZY BAD decision on where to put the fuse for the power adapter/lighter socket (it might make an interesting show to have you guys try to replace this fuse...it is REALLY hard to reach.) Lastly is the big question: "Will this tiny turbo engine be reliable long-term?" Both vehicles have low mileage (46K for the 2021 and 26K for the 2022), so time will tell. I hope they do, but got the extended warranty on one and will get it for the other too, just to be safe. I also am VERY careful about oil change intervals and feed them only high octane gasoline.

If they quit trying to compete with G wagons, they’d probably sell trucks! Jeeps are not luxury cars, they’re middle class toys

I couldn’t imagine paying $60k-$100k for a Wrangler when it really should be around $30k at its highest or $40k for the off-road variants. Inflation and markups are ridiculous now and cars are just gonna gather dust.

Stellantis is running all the American brands into the ground

Stellantis is the reason that chrysler products have been in a decline for years they don't make quality and reliability a priority

Wonder if they could do a hybrid with the "Toyota AWD" style axle motor that works off the batteries. Not a real AWD but good enough to use domestically like an axle lock option to get people out of a tight spot in say winter.

Had a 2020 Wrangler, now have a 2023 Gladiator. Love them both, they are both very fun to drive. I'm all for cheaper Jeeps to keep the brand going.

Jeep! Make the Penstar v6 Great again! They literally can stick that V6 in any version of the Jeep. May a NA, Turbo, And Twin Turbo for the various trims. They use the crap engines and people get turned away!.

The world needs some 10k reliable vehicles. Toyota, looking at you...

The drivetrain was always the only reason I hated the Renegade. The size was perfect for all kinds of uses but an unreliable engine with an even worse transmission is a deal killer.

I drove a Renegade as a rental and I loved it. Yes it was the power train that kept me away from buying one.

It will never happen. I live in Canada and was looking forward to buying a Fiat 500e for a daily driver. For over a year, the Dodge dealership has been practically spamming/harassing me with emails trying to sell me Jeep products that I just kept on deleting, but didn't mark as junk because I was waiting for when they would finally have a 500e to test drive. The just recently got one in, and aggressively wanted to book me in for a test drive. When I was told that they were selling for a whopping $43K+ for a sub-sub-compact, with shit range--especially for our winters, I marked their emails as junkmail. For a little bit more, you could get substantially more vehicle in size, features, and double the range from: Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, maybe even Chevrolet. Stellantis has a shit reputation for reliability, while selling their economy brands for luxury vehicle prices. People are not idiots and their dropping sales should be telling them that.

Hard disagree on Renegade. My father had a '22 for 1 year. It was decently roomy and the cabin wasn't too noisy, everything else was not impressive. The ultimate kick in the groin was that it got terrible fuel economy for what it was, and unlike the 2.4 Cherokee, the Renegade ran on *premium* fuel. Paying $0.80 more per gallon rendered that car a terrible choice. Fuelling up once a week, that alone was costing him an extra $40 a month. As far as an EV saving a company, that's a bit of a moonshot. Never say never, but even Hyundai who has been advertising their EV lineup heavily managed just 12k sales Q1 of this year, and they have 3 different models on offer. Considering Toyota is still selling absolutely every hybrid they can build, I guess I'm a little confused why everyone else is still going so hard on EVs. Seems like building a few hybrid models might be better at keeping the lights on.

What they should do is just make it a PHEV-only option, but do it like the new Ram Charger (just scaled way down). That solves every issue. Even if they have to price it higher, it would qualify for EV incentives, so that wouldn't even matter. It would have tons of power, because we know pound-for-pound motors have more torque than engines. They could keep margins higher by focusing on economies of scale by limiting the power-train options to just one. It would get plenty of range do the gas generator. It would be a killer off-roader with a dual-motor setup. And it would help them flesh out this technology more, which no one else is doing.

Even if the Wrangler's weren't overpriced, Stellantis would still be seeing major headwinds with increased competition into the segment. Buyers now have more options with the Bronco and the cadre of offerings coming out from Toyota.

A $25,000 Jeep Avenger gasoline or e-hybrid? That would be fantastic! Even if low horsepower and front wheel drive. Absolutely fantastic!

When the Renegade Trailhawk was first announced, I was very excited! Then I drove one - my excitement disappeared! At the time I had 2 kids & a dog + stuff and it was just too small for all of us. However, it was the lack of power - I had to say 'No'. I bought a V-6 Dodge Durango instead (which I love)! I had high hopes for the 'baby Jeep' - it just wasn't going to work for us.

When are we going to start holding these auto makers to their word!? They always say that they’re gonna sell a cheap car for a certain price and it’s NEVER true!?!?

TFL never really understood the Renegade Trailhawk and I don't think their current ownership of one is going to change things all that much on that score. Until TFL bought one, every time they had Renegade Trailhawk (RTH) content, they had to b**** about the "lack of proper low range gearing they alleged the vehicle to have. That allegation isn't true. A '73 Bronco with 302 V8, C-4 automatic transmission, and 3.50:1 ring and pinion gears on 30" to 31" tires can handle the majority of open, legal routes on BLM and Forest Service land. I know, because I had one. It had a mechanical gear reduction in low range and first gear of 20.4974:1. That is augmented by the 2:1 torque multiplication of the torque converter for an effective potential torque multiplication of 40.9948:1 Now, most of the time, in running trails, I'd be running in law range of 2.42:1, but not in 1st gear. I spent more time in the 1.48:1 second gear, where my mechanical gear reduction was 12.5356:1 but the effective torque multiplication potential was down to 25.0712:1 When I still had my Bronco, two of my uncles when back to flat-fender Jeeps, buying WWII relics. I enjoyed running trails on them in spite of often trying to grab a lower gear that wasn't there. The MB and GPW have 25:1 torque multiplication in compound low. That's why they felt like running my Bronco in low range and second gear. The ZF 9 HP transmission in my RTH is geared thus: R 3.805:1 1st: 4.7 2nd: 2,842:1 3rd: 1.909:1 4th: 1.382:1 5th: 1:1 6th 0.808:1 7th: 0.699:1 8th: 0.58:1 9th: 0.48:1 The total span of ratios is 9.808:1 and the average ratio step is 1.330:1 Let's see if TFL's constant claim that the RTH isn't geared low enough for off-pavement use has any foundation in fact: 4.33:1 Final Drive Ratio X 4.7:1 First Gear = 20.351:1 mechanical redution x 2:1 torque multiplication potential from Torque Converter = effective torque multiplication of 40.702:1 in first gear. 4.33:1 FDR X 2.842:1 Second Gear = 12.30586:1 X 2:1 Torque Converter multiplication = 24.61172:1 My RTH in first and second gear is close enough to my Bronco in first and second gear and low range so that if I would be in second gear and low range in my Bronco, I'll be in second gear in my RTH and if I'd be in first in the Bronco, I'll be in first in the RTH. TFL used to say that the RTH wasn't geared low enough for off-pavement use because it didn't have a true low range. Math, which doesn't like, says they were wrong. And TFL is still spreading fiction in this video. Young master Mica seems to have the idea that the ZF 9 HP ia a fragile thing. TFL doesn't mention that the unit has a torque input rating in excess of 350 ft/pounds and they never mention that Honda, Nissan, and Land Rover have used the same transmission in their vehicles. Jeep customers certainly did complain about the transmission shifting too slow, too fast, and hunting for gears. They're really complaining about a software problem and not the hardware. The samme transmission was used in Aura models and some of their owners had the same complaints Jeep cusomers did, for the same kind of reasons related to algorithms and not the hardware. TFL says "if you want to go off road, get a Wrangler." Been there, done that, in a TJ.. I don't miss it. At all. Young Mica complains about the buzzy 2.4 Tigershark but it's a smooth-running thing compared to a pushrod OHV Jeep 2.5. My RTH will get to 60 from a stop in 9 seconds or less. My TJ took about 15. My Bronco took 12.5. Right off the showroom floor, my RTH did Slaughterhouse Gulch without much fuss or drama. I picked that trail as the maiden voyage because it's about as tough as any I run in Arizona and New Mexico where I do most of my trail running nowadays. I think the RTH was pretty close to being the perfect tool for people like me who run trails as a means to an end. I run trails that go someplace I want to go in order to do something besides getting my kidneys bounced on a trail. I wanted something that could get up to 30 mpg on the long highway slogs I have to drive in order to get to the trails that take me where I want to go and be capable of handling the majority of trails in stock form with no mods beyond swapping tires. A Renegade Trailhawk might suck at rock crawling, but as what you younger people call an "overlander," I think the thing is pretty fantastic. The only thing stopping it from being perfect are algorithms that conspite to cut engine output under specific circumtances in order to keep me from breaking the drivetrain. Eruo spec versions owned by Italian friends in Italy don't seem to have that problem.

Pretty simple. Make a FWD 2.0T Wrangler, with All season tires, none of the offroad stuff. Either uni-body or body on frame (depending on engineering for having a soft top). Keep it below $30k for the person who never goes off road but would love to be able to drop the top and get the ‘Jeep Vibe’. Good stereo, god headlights, make it your city/beach/suburban Jeep that doesnt cost what the Sahara costs. 😎😎😎😎

The 1.3T was fine in the Renegade the issue was is that STL refreshes some of their American line less than the Japanese do. When the 1.3T was introduced a decent refresh should have been done. The Renegade was left to die on the vine.

At the risk of showing my age, I remember when I joined the military 30 years ago there were a lot of E-1 through E-5s that drove Wranglers. Granted not all of them were new but you could get a used Wrangler in the earl 90's for a really good price and when you are a lower enlisted service member you are making VERY little money. However even the used Wrangler market is out of control. If I had to guess this new Jeep is in direct response to cheaper vehicles like the Trax and Trailblazer doing so well for Chevy.

I commute 124 miles round-trip per day. If there was the option of an electric AWD Jeep that was rated for 300 miles per day for $28,000, I would order one right away and just charge it at home every night. I would keep the old Ford F-150 for towing and hauling though.

Crazy thing the Renegade Trailhawk had stock more off roading protection than the new $70k Toyota LandCruiser.

The Europeans have never, and will never, understand Jeeps or the American consumer.

Jeep is in a tough spot bc interest rates suck and they haven’t dropped their pricing. Stellantis is possibly the worst ownership company in history.

I agree on the Renegade but every time I priced one they were eye wateringly expensive, that's what killed it.

This is simple economics. They mark up the models people want to stupid prices then wonder why no one buys them. There is no reason for a rubicon to cost $60k. There is no reason for a wrangler sport to cost $44k. They are using build techniques that are old and cheap. People want wranglers so they mark them up. If you want to sell them just mark them down. You don’t need max profit on each car if you’re selling 10x as many of them for much lower prices.

I have an 11 Grand Cherokee I bought in 2023 (needed a vehicle, my newer car got written off, didn’t want high payments) and already put a few grand into it, if Jeep wants to do better, make their vehicles more reliable and cheaper

The 2.4L with the 9-speed is reliable. The reason it gets negative ratings is because of the decisions that make it reliable. It has hard shifts because it uses more reliable dog clutches. It's buzzy because it uses the more reliable port injection. The reason Jeeps are statistically more unreliable is because how people use a Jeep. My skid plate was bent because I skidded it on a rock. Not something you will do on comparable vehicles. My wheel bearing wore out because of a 5" lift and 37" tires. Once again not something other vehicles encounter.

I'm NOT in favor of an electric Renegade. I just drove 584 miles, one way, to get to a seven-mile stretch of dirt road leading to my campsite in the Lincoln N.F. in New Mexico. A 240 mile range is USELESS to me. I could do this trip because I got 25 mpg with three adults and gear in my 2015 Renegade Trailhawk, while also towing a fully-loaded M-416 military cargo trailer. A couple of fifteen minute fuel stops were part of a nine-hour drive. In a 240 mile EV, that drive would have been one hell of a lot longer. My "fairly unreliable squirrel" has been fantastic and totally reliable for 153,000 miles. Electric might work when you live in Boulder and have things like the Switzerland Trail at your door step. It does't work for people like me who have to get through a crap-ton of Texas first before I get to the BLM and Forest Service land in Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona I want to recreate on. If there was a 2024 Renegade Trailhawk, I'd buy a new one tomorrow. Electric isn't going to work for me.

The 130 HP electric system in the Wrangler 4xe is fast and responsive, I'm guessing 100 HP in a pure lighter EV would not be an issue. Especially since this would be more of a city runner than a highway long hauler. Must offer a sunroof

If any brand in the group is in dire need of new car models, it's Chrysler. They've discontinued all their cars except the Pacifica, and even that is probably not doing well sales wise because people want SUVs and not minivans. Create new premium models for Chrysler that can compete with Buick, Acura, Volvo etc., then revive Dodge as a performance brand with not just the new Charger, but also with a new Durango. As for Alfa Romeo and Maserati, they need to improve the interior quality of their cars significantly. In all, the entire Stellantis group (in North America) has been known for building good looking (sometimes) cars with great features at the expense of reliability. It will take a long while (pretty much forever) for them to regain people's trust.

A Copy of the new Suzuki Jimny would have been the best thing. Solid axles, manual transfer case, and just enough tech to pass safety standards.

every car customer i have ever met: what I really want is a pos ... but just a cheaper pos

This company cant help themselves. The HORNET was suppose to be the 25K Crossover and now look at them.... 45K MSRP and they have the HIGHEST days supply of any unit on the lots.

Jeep Avenger in the EU in petrol version is FWD only and that is why Dacia is killing it over here. The Duster is unbeatable and with the new version Jeep just doesn't stand a chance for people who want to do some light off-roading. Jeep should just copy Dacia if they want to have any success or copy it and make it better by giving us low range on it. That would be killer.

Remember, when the Renegade first came out in 2015, the big draw was, as Roman said then, "The MPG is going to start with a 3, and the price is going to start with a 1." THAT was the best thing. I think it was $18,995 for the base spec 2WD Sport. You could get into a compact, relatively efficient, relatively capable Jeep for $20K. But company decided that just wasn't expensive enough.

The problem with jeep that they increased their prices in some cases about 50% the last 4 years. The renegade used to sell with incentives about $17k . Stelantis will never make a reliable vehicle simple because Peugeot Citroen and Fiat were never known for reliability

I don't want an electric jeep, not even for $25,000.... BUT.... you are right , that electric would have solved the powertrain issues. 100%.

I have a 2020 renegade and this vehicle is perfect for someone with no kids. They need to bring it back electric

What can save the day? A reputation for reliability, and reasonable prices. There'd be a 4xe in the driveway right now IF those were different. And people talk about the Toyota tax? 🙄

Tavares needs to start paying more attention to the American brands if he wants to see positive results, can't get more profits if he is not investing in new models for Jeep, Chrysler, Dodge and RAM

The problem is Jeep hasn't been in the ditch for years. Jeep was moved to a luxury brand abandoning its affordable off-road market

I wish TFL and other media outlets would quit being nice and call out Stellantis for their blatant price gouging and raising prices WAY past what's reasonable. No one holds their feet to the fire. A 2 door base Wrangler is a $40k vehicle after taxes. This is absurd.

The avenger is brilliant. They're everywhere in Europe and they are really great looking.

Make a sub 28K USD wrangler with solid front and rear axles, standard triple lockers, sway bar disconnect, skid plates vinyl/cloth interior, no need for infotainment radios or anything else except any government regulated safety features, optional hybrid optional turbo/supercharger for high altitude markets

I was just in Italy and saw a few of these on the road and they honestly looked great.

Exactly bring back a $20, 000 with the 100k warranty not a $100,00 price it's not a condo

The only thing that will save Jeep is for Carlos and the parent company to quit sabotaging them. Coercing/forcing dealers to take $80k vehicles into inventory when they already have a surplus of overly priced vehicles. It's mind-numbingly stupid.

A $25k Jeep? It would be as rare as the original "$19,995" Maverick hybrid or "$35k" Tesla Model 3, which the companies heavily promoted, but did their best to avoid actually selling.

Jeeps are expensive for what they are. They feel like a budget car but have a luxury sticker price.

So they're saying a 25k Jeep is coming, but they already have a 25k Jeep? What makes you think this new one will actually come in at 25k 😂

Tommy, why didn’t you talk about the Avenger 4xe they released a few months ago that adds AWD and has the cool Trailhawk styling? They introduced the concept over a year ago and just introduced the production version overseas. I’m confused as to why you didn’t include any of that information here. I’ve been trolling all the Stellantis posts about bringing the Avenger here because it’s exactly what I would buy and feel is missing in the U.S., especially with the Recon probably going to be over $50K and the Wagoneer S Trailhawk well over $70K. This would be ideal and perfect timing for those of us who want a smaller, affordable off-road-oriented EV and are anxiously awaiting the Rivian R2 we have reserved!

I want a Jeep without all that technology. I want a robust inline six engine, 6-speed manual transmission, seats, doors, windows, A/C, radio. That about wraps it up. And it should sell for no more than $20,000.