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We test the 1U version of the fanless Everything homelab node to find a $300 8-core system with 4x 10G ports, 5x 2.5GbE ports, and SATA JBOD expansion. This makes a great pfSense, OPNsense, Proxmox VE, Debian, Linux, TrueNAS, Ubuntu, or other box. One can even customize it with ECC memory and multiple drives. With an 8-core Intel Atom C3758R it can even handle a few virtual machines and containers for a VM or Docker host.
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- iKoolCore R1 N6005 Review: • This CRAZY SMALL 2.5Gb...
- Intel Core i3-N305 Fanless: • Best EVER Fanless Mini...
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- Beelink EQ12 Pro with i3-N305: • Intel Core i3 N305 Min...
- Example of setting up Proxmox VE with OPNsense/ pfSense: www.servethehome.com/topton-i...
- ASRock 4x4 AMD Ryzen 7 5800U: • This AMD Ryzen NUC Alt...
- Three 6x 2.5GbE Fanless Systems: • 3x 2.5GbE Fanless Fire...
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Timestamps
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00:00 Introduction
02:15 External Hardware Overview
06:19 Internal Hardware Overview
10:53 Performance
13:32 Power Consumption and Noise
15:44 Key Lessons Learned and Customization
20:30 Wrap-up

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@RemyL75
@RemyL75 5 дней назад
This is the first time that I actually beat STH to finding and buying a product LOL. But yeah this one works great.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
Yea, a bit slow on this one. It was tested a few months ago and this video was actually recorded in May pre-baby STH.
@RemyL75
@RemyL75 5 дней назад
I bought the fan less unit a few months ago and was thinking of getting a second one and literally stumbled across this one a few weeks ago and have had it for about a week now. The fan less one will now be my Truenas Scale test box with 4 drives using a 8087-to-SATA cable and a 4-bay enclosure. The 1U is my new pfsense box (fan less unit was the pfsense box, but all I had to do was backup from old and restore to the 1U and it worked without issues). Thank you for the recommendations.
@fumes007
@fumes007 3 дня назад
Link please? Looking to replace my protectli proxmox host
@arraybytes7214
@arraybytes7214 День назад
Same here, got mine in February. Have had issues with the SFP+ ports with DAC cables, could only get it working with fiber. Not sure if it is an issue with proxmox or not.
@0xKruzr
@0xKruzr 20 часов назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo congrats!
@chaosfenix
@chaosfenix 5 дней назад
It is crazy how this thing is a lot more powerful than the UDM Pro Max while costing half the price. It infuriates me that businesses still put 1999 Gigabit Ethernet on higher end gear. Our wired connections are now bottlenecking our wifi 7 connections. 2.5Gbps should be the bare minimum on any networking gear going forward.
@udirt
@udirt 5 дней назад
to be fair, 1999 gigabit was most likely fibre and a full-length syskonnect adapter.
@Alan.livingston
@Alan.livingston 5 дней назад
Vendors always doin the bare minimum they think people will accept.
@Xondan
@Xondan 5 дней назад
You are forgetting that you are not buying only the hardware with the UDM. You are also buying the Software and the UX. That also cost money to develop. Yes, i find my UDM Pro SE lacking in Some Points as only 2.5GBit RJ45 LAN Port, would have loved 10 Gbit, so have to fallback to SFP+, 1 Sata drive only. But that was never the point of the machine. I'm more than happy with its capabilities and the price is more than just. Also my greatest complain the lack of snat /dnat just got resolved.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 5 дней назад
but you can get RGB switches from them, they are clearly better right
@gowinfanless
@gowinfanless 5 дней назад
@@Alan.livingston But,will people really accept it?
@1armbiker
@1armbiker 5 дней назад
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for at work. Time to buy a dozen.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 5 дней назад
"I'll buy the whole stock"
@BrianThomas
@BrianThomas 5 дней назад
I like this unit. Looks like aa good Christmas gift for me.
@throwaway3756
@throwaway3756 5 дней назад
I got one of these a few months ago. It's been a great little box as a firewall.
@superb3113
@superb3113 23 часа назад
What firewall software did you go with?
@throwaway3756
@throwaway3756 18 часов назад
@@superb3113 Opnsense. It's alright but I find the configuration to be unintuitive. Sometimes the rules don't apply the way that I feel like they should.
@flahiker
@flahiker 5 дней назад
how ironic, I was just looking at this system as I wanted the qotom unit with 4 10GBIT ports that you reviewed in Feb but in a 1U case. I am probably going to pick one up this week :)
@nitronaf
@nitronaf 5 дней назад
i cant seem to get the sfp+ to work in 10gb in proxmox. just a warning since I did actually buy the qotom.
@tactoad
@tactoad 5 дней назад
I got really excited when I saw the AST2400 chip onboard but too bad they dont use it as BMC. Its more useful then a console port.
@daninmanchester
@daninmanchester 5 дней назад
It's just a shame they don't do a slightly larger version that would allow a 3.5" drive. I could whack my 20TB drive in it and run it as a mini server with all my media , CCTV, etc, then cluster it.
@larsla
@larsla 5 дней назад
I had to add a fan to the "fanless" version because it was very unstable otherwise. I DIYed a connector for the spare SATA power port and connected that to a fan speed controller and then on to a 140mm fan screwed into the heatsink fins. I 3d printed a new bottom cover with vent holes and have it standing on the side. Instead of 60C+ CPU temps I now see 40-45C and it hasn't crashed since. But with that and 32gb ECC memory and 2x2TB NVMes it runs Proxmox (after some NIC driver patching) fine with a virtualized router VM and some containers for services. Also added a 2.5" SATA drive for Proxmox backups and screwed that into the 3d printed bottom cover.
@intrax2tv
@intrax2tv 5 дней назад
So 'fanless' is FAKE... Nice setup!
@mikel2700
@mikel2700 5 дней назад
did you follow a post for patching?
@gutschke
@gutschke 5 дней назад
There is a fan connector on the board. Why didn't you connect to that one instead?
@larsla
@larsla 5 дней назад
@@mikel2700 It was somewhere on the ServeTheHome forum. I can't post links here but search for qotom-denverton-fanless-system-with-4-sfp and you should find the thread. I installed it as a DKMS module so that it stays even during kernel upgrades.
@hatbabe
@hatbabe 4 дня назад
That's a little disappointing. More disappointing is that means their fanless isn't necessarily fanless, and evne ther rackmount, fan model isn't because that vent will just blow straight into the top of whatever is racked up underneath it. Guess it's time to get out some metal bits then a jigsaw before getting started with it.
@RLFWE1
@RLFWE1 5 дней назад
That SFF8087 port would make this unit pair nicely with ye olde HP microservers and allow them to be used as 4 bay SATA expansion boxes, bypassing their elderly motherboards.
@stevekristoff4365
@stevekristoff4365 5 дней назад
cute little system but with a fan on the BOTTOM they need their head examined. it's a rack mount unit so there is no way to get any air INTO the system when mounted. fan should be on the back. Also would really love to see a Xeon D series here for a firewall appliance (C3758R is just to slow for application inspection) and they need to fix ECC support.
@nathanabird
@nathanabird 5 дней назад
I too am concerned there was nothing said about if having the fan on the bottom caused issues which I'm expecting it would
@magnawavezone
@magnawavezone 5 дней назад
...and no forced airflow inside the case. Can't imagine those 10G cages are going to cool properly at all with 2 or more 10GBase-T and no forced airflow. Seems like flipping the board upside down and some side to side airflow would be a much better design. [front to back better but side to side is fine for this low thermal load]
@headlibrarian1996
@headlibrarian1996 5 дней назад
@@magnawavezone The 10G ports are SFP+ so cooling assumes fiber not 10G-BaseT.
@headlibrarian1996
@headlibrarian1996 5 дней назад
I assume this box is powerful enough to do 2.5G IDS/IPS + firewall on one port at full line rate and support 10G on the LAN. Not powerful enough for 10G or multiple 2.5G on the WAN side most likely but broadband at that speed is hard to find in the US. Would make a nice front end for an internal Ubiquiti network running a virtualized controller. One of the posts on this video mentions what working ECC sticks they used.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 4 дня назад
​@@magnawavezoneor they could have added a big-a$$ heatsink in the back like mikrotik did, considering it has such low depth. Would've added costs but made it silent
@hxx888
@hxx888 4 дня назад
Just what I need! Thank you sir
@realandrewhatfield
@realandrewhatfield 4 дня назад
Of course a later CPU might be nice, but the one piece missing is a real BMC. To put these anywhere, an out of band management interface would make this so competitive!
@MattHudsonAtx
@MattHudsonAtx 5 дней назад
Really dig the new Key Lessons Learned section. That MBA is really paying off! 😊
@HiSk0L
@HiSk0L 5 дней назад
well thanks for finding out for me that I can't run to a SAS expander. would have loved that feature to make a small NAS box that connects to a large disk array.
@CheapSushi
@CheapSushi 5 дней назад
Did you guys read my mind? I was literally on Amazon looking for something like this, with just enough ports for my needs and a decent value ($).
@userou-ig1ze
@userou-ig1ze 5 дней назад
The only thing it really needs is just a better cpu, with zenarmor you max it out pretty quickly
@concinnus
@concinnus 5 дней назад
Problem is, while the successor C5*** chips had higher performance, they also had equally higher prices and TDPs.
@dohmarau
@dohmarau 5 дней назад
@@concinnus intel pro 155u/165u would be great alternative. lower tdp than this atom plus more performance
@concinnus
@concinnus 5 дней назад
@@dohmarau For home use, even a 12*5U chip is great (as long as you're not on an OS that has issues with E Cores) -- Protectli uses them. But for people who want Supermicro-features-but-cheaper, no.
@gowinfanless
@gowinfanless 5 дней назад
@@dohmarau Better to use 165U which is faster and easy to make a 1U solution
@dohmarau
@dohmarau 5 дней назад
@@gowinfanless That was my conclusion too! 15w TDP standard, 28w peak, can be scaled down to 9w in BIOS, comes with 20 pcie lanes instead of 9... i hope your next 1 RU device has the 165u
@0xKruzr
@0xKruzr 19 часов назад
I love how much I/O this thing has. It's approaching my ideal for a "perfect homelab Proxmox/Ceph cluster box" -- enough cores and RAM to support OSDs, boot from SATA and have two NVMes for OSDs, plenty of at least 10G networking for Ceph inter-host and client traffic. Not taking advantage of the AST2400 as a BMC sucks, though, as does PCI Gen 3 x2 for the NVMes. For $100 more the Minisforum MS-01 still holds the crown for this I think.
@computersales
@computersales 5 дней назад
Look neat. Having a dual power source function would be cool feature to add. Even better would be PoE power support. I am surprised they didn't make the chassis out of extruded aluminum.
@marktackman2886
@marktackman2886 5 дней назад
This is something we can finally recommend!
@nadtz
@nadtz 5 дней назад
I *just* bought myself a new router, if I had known about this I might have spent a little more and grabbed it instead. Heck I might get one anyway just because Qotom actually followed up with a rackmount version.
@MichaelGrnne
@MichaelGrnne 5 дней назад
Would the 12VDC work as redundancy? Try to switch off the AC while the 12VDC is on.
@init_yeah
@init_yeah 5 дней назад
Looks good
@Renderman-Official
@Renderman-Official 5 дней назад
Excellent product! Hope they will produce a N100/N200/N300/N305 version of this, that would meet all my performance needs!
@gowinfanless
@gowinfanless 5 дней назад
We have made the 1U with Intel N100 and i3-N305 which be reviewed before
@Renderman-Official
@Renderman-Official 5 дней назад
@@gowinfanless Excellent! I will go check those out. Thank you.
@InFeXIoUs1
@InFeXIoUs1 2 дня назад
​@@gowinfanlesslooks great. If only you ditched the 2 1 gig ports and made all 4 2.5g.
@illstateofmind
@illstateofmind 5 дней назад
Wow, I bought this 2 months ago, and now there's a video for it.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
Yea. Baby STH came :-/
@illstateofmind
@illstateofmind 5 дней назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideoI get giddy every time I see a new upload from you.
@TheChadXperience909
@TheChadXperience909 5 дней назад
The fan in the bottom basically makes this a 2U; not a 1U. Maybe if it were in the front or side, but you're not going to be able to stack this unit and still have airflow. Edit: I guess, you could place it above your patch panel, which isn't very ideal, but at least you aren't wasting a blank. Also, it might make sense to mount upside down, and then you could place it below the patch panel. I guess, that's OK as a router/firewall, but not a VM host, and especially not a HA cluster.
@lguildbz
@lguildbz 5 дней назад
What app are you using to monitor the statistics of the unit?
@hpsfresh
@hpsfresh 5 дней назад
Plan to buy one. As far as I know it also supports ecc
@newstandardaccount
@newstandardaccount 5 дней назад
These look to be pretty awesome but damn - I wish there was some type of distributor here in the US. On both Amazon and Aliexpress, you're looking at $40 - $50 for shipping.
@Gnitset
@Gnitset 16 часов назад
They have a bug in the hw-design on the motherboard for the sim-card slot. According to the spec a pin is supposed to be pulled to ground when no sim is present and left unconnected when sim is present. It does it the other way around. I had to remove a surface mounted component to get the 4g-modem to understand that there actually were a sim-card installed.
@mys721tx
@mys721tx 5 дней назад
It is really surprising that Atom has a built-in X553 NIC for the SFP+! I was doing napkin math and wondering how 4x PCIe 3.0 (~30Gbps) is going to work with 40Gbps there.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
That is what these are designed for. We have reviewed the C5000/P5000 series with built in 25GbE.
@thegeekno72
@thegeekno72 4 дня назад
It's the same motherboard as the fanless one, I bought the fanless couple weeks before its own review and when they released the 1U unit, I asked them if I could buy the case/PSU combo, which they did sell me, I just had to move the motherboard over to the other case ! Haven't soldered the leads of the PSU though, still using the barrel plug unit...
@kingneutron1
@kingneutron1 5 дней назад
I would buy this in a HEARTBEAT, but Proxmox 8.x has a broken ixgbe driver in the 6.x kernel series! If they had used something other than the X553 10GbE SFP+ ports, this would be an instant sale. I already bought the previous desktop version and it works great, but I have to keep the Proxmox kernel at 5.15 - otherwise no 10Gig-E!!
@intrax2tv
@intrax2tv 5 дней назад
Seems @larsla (see commment above) did some driver patching and has it running in Proxmox 8.x !
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
I brought it up with Intel more than a month ago.
@thetux0815
@thetux0815 5 дней назад
Would be nice to have 2 of them in a 1U chassis (probably without the internal PSU)
@stevekristoff4365
@stevekristoff4365 5 дней назад
just a longer case would be needed and a 'proper' cooling design to have the fans in the back so they're not blocked when the unit is mounted. But yes two in 1U would be nice for a small redundant build.
@pism0549
@pism0549 4 дня назад
I just want to make sure that I understand the wrap up about those 10gb ports. I would want to use this as my main firewall running opnsense and an Omada controller LXC inside Proxmox connected to my 10gb core switch. Am I right in understanding that I can't connect these 10gb ports to the switch?
@colinstu
@colinstu День назад
I wish they'd put two of these in this 1U case. Would be nice to have hw failover in 1U space.
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 День назад
Colin, now that just makes too much sense. 💡
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 День назад
Only thing that doesn't make sense is the location of th fan intake for a server rack. Stack a bunch of gear on top of it's self and you don't have any flow.
@louwrentius
@louwrentius 5 дней назад
I wonder what the idle power usage would be of there units, ideally with a few 10g modules. ❤
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
You can get it to the 20-30W range. But then maxing the CPU will only add
@kingneutron1
@kingneutron1 5 дней назад
My desktop version pulls ~33Watts with 2x 10Gbit and 4x 2.5Gbit ports populated (plus a fan on top running off the usb2 port)
@danagoyette7932
@danagoyette7932 5 дней назад
What kind of throughput can you route through it if you put an SQM rate limiter (fq-codel or CAKE) on the interface that'd be acting as a WAN? If you gradually adjust the rate limit up, does the actual throughput reach the configured rate? Some ARM machines can't even do 1 gigabit with SQM. On my 1-gigabit home network connection, I run OpenWRT on an x86 box with an Intel X550, with a 2.5-gigabit link to the cable modem and a 10-gigabit link to the LAN switch. I've seen some places say that gigabit internet doesn't need SQM, but I still see a huge improvement when I go from SQM disabled to SQM enabled, with it set a bit below my max steady-state upstream and downstream rates.
@thetux0815
@thetux0815 5 дней назад
I'll be receiving my new pfsense box with 4x2.5g and 2x 10g sfp+ ports im the mail by the end of this week. Powered by am intel n100. Wonder how they stack up in comparison. Would you go with the n100 or c3558 for a pure pfsense / opnsense with 10g?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
C3558
@AzN_devil
@AzN_devil 5 дней назад
the n100 is fine for switching applications but dont bother using it as a router + firewall (pfsense) unless your wan link is slow... my n100 maxes out when torrenting at around 35MB throughput
@ronwatkins5775
@ronwatkins5775 4 дня назад
Im looking for a SSD/NVME NAS with 25GB SFP connections. The NAS needs to have a high level of redundancy/backup for critical data. It should be about 20TB in size. Wondering where I can find some sort of comparison tool or utility which will help me locate something like this?
@VaticanTop
@VaticanTop 5 дней назад
Is this or the Minisforum MS-01 better for a 10gb router with OPNsense /pfSense?
@m6kzt
@m6kzt 4 дня назад
The ms-01 is way way better this doesn't even come close.
@abb0tt
@abb0tt 5 дней назад
Okay, point us to the ECC option 🙌
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
In the listings they have a few compatible modules. Also, I believe you can ask them to upgrade when purchasing.
@jorper2526
@jorper2526 5 дней назад
Nemix 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2666Mhz ECC Ram is working fine in mine.
@Gnitset
@Gnitset 17 часов назад
Im running 2 Kingston Server Premier 32 GB 3200MT/s DDR4 ECC CL22 SODIMM 2Rx8 Micron F - KSM32SED8/32MF in my fanless version
@Warrigt
@Warrigt 5 дней назад
Is this fan noise related to being ran sitting on a table with no gap for air to escape?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
We ran the top one with the bottom off but present as well to validate.
@44Bigs
@44Bigs 5 дней назад
Years ago I moved to an Edgerouter because of the excellent throughput when using hardware offload, but I guess this would probably be fine as a 1Gbps software router?
@iviaimer1
@iviaimer1 5 дней назад
I have 5Gbps ethernet, are there any good options for a router/firewall that allows 5 or 10gbps ethernet? The options i have found are very expensive. Also running 10Gbps nics in 2 PCs, everything else on the network is 1Gbps.
@mctscott123
@mctscott123 4 дня назад
The meanwell is super nice, but I'd gut it and 3d print a slot for a dell psu, it should be sweet.
@Galileocrafter
@Galileocrafter 5 дней назад
Is there anything affordable out for those Atom P5000 / C5000 series CPUs ? Would love something like that for even higher performance and newer QAT.
@rokiesato
@rokiesato 5 дней назад
this is the first time sth shows something thats actually cheap for what you’re getting. a comparable solution would cost over $500
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
I mean we showed the fanless version of this at around the same price many months ago
@kopspijker3515
@kopspijker3515 5 дней назад
Given the external input and an internal PSU. Can both be used at the same time?
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 4 дня назад
E.g. for a battery ups to avoid power loses, yeah
@rtm38
@rtm38 4 дня назад
Great poweshell gui software, can i know whats is this?
@jonathanchang4894
@jonathanchang4894 5 дней назад
if you plug in both 12v and PSU, does it essentially act as redundant PSUs in that if one fails the other one keeps things going?
@xt0
@xt0 5 дней назад
most likely
@brack86svo
@brack86svo 5 дней назад
So you can't hook the SFP+ port to switch using Pfsense?
5 дней назад
I'm using the non rack-mount version and unfortunatly I don't achieve 10gbps over SMB. I have a fast enough NVMe installed and as OS I'm using OpenMediaVault which is based on Debian. Maybe this is related to the bug you mention in the video at the end.
@magnawavezone
@magnawavezone 5 дней назад
samba needs a lot of single core performance [at least to saturate 10G for a single client]. I'd guess the cpu is lightly insufficient being an gen older e-core.
5 дней назад
@@magnawavezone Yeah, that sounds reasonable. If I remember correctly, I also did an iperf3 test and could achieve 10 gig on one side, but the other side was only about 4-5 gig.
@coinbird44
@coinbird44 5 дней назад
Here we go again! 🤓
@trendingtopicresearch9440
@trendingtopicresearch9440 5 дней назад
Does 18.6Gbps routing capacity mean that when all 4 10Gb ports are used, the effectively run at half the speed?
@ecybernard-com
@ecybernard-com 5 дней назад
You asked what I wanted to see. I want to see a real NIC SPF+ 4 port NIC like the intel 700 series that just works of out the box with proxmox etc. Even after the latest upgrade to proxmox 8.8 the intel 553 nic still doesn't work properly out the box. I still have to recompile 5.20.3 and fix compilation errors to get the 553 NIC working!!!
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
Put it in the video but I made a formal request to Intel and followed up but no response
@ecybernard-com
@ecybernard-com 5 дней назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Intel has released driver 5.20.9 which at least compiles and installs. However I can only get gigabit speeds from it and not 10 Gbps
@m6kzt
@m6kzt 4 дня назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Think you should have made it clear that the x533 will not work on Linux 6 kernels out the box, try testing with latest proxmox 8.
@joshhardin666
@joshhardin666 3 дня назад
the fan appears to be on the bottom of the unit, right? how does that work? - USUALLY with rack mount configurations (even the 2 unit configuration shown on this video), you're right up against the top of the server below... so how do you get airflow to that fan? - wouldn't it make more sense to do a front to back airflow (like most servers) or a side to side airflow (like most switches)? I'm afraid that if i buy this, i'm going to kill it by not having enough airflow to feed the cpu fan. is this concern warranted? I currently have the fanless version running pfsense to run my network (firewalling and routing between 4 10g vlans with a 4 port 10g sfp+ lagg to my netgear 10g base-t switch (that happens to have 4 sfp+ ports) and I was seriously considering selling it and picking up one or two of these 1u units instead. what do ya'll think?
@AndrewFrink
@AndrewFrink 5 дней назад
Are there m.2 form factor video encode/decode cards?
@guerrierim15
@guerrierim15 5 дней назад
Uh oh. I got the fanless version coming in soon and got 64gb of ecc rdimm memory to go with it. You said you were having issues with ecc memory though? Could you elaborate? I specifically got this kit: A-Tech 64GB Kit (2x32GB) DDR4 2400MHz PC4-19200 ECC RDIMM 2Rx4 1.2V Dual Rank ECC Registered DIMM Awesome video as always!
@Gnitset
@Gnitset 17 часов назад
I dont think it will accept reg-ecc. Im running 2 kingston KSM32SED8/32MF in my fanless version
@yourpcmd
@yourpcmd 5 дней назад
Make this with an N100 at the same cost and I'd put them in inventory rotation. It would beat many of the all SSD NAS appliances coming out at ridiculous prices.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
This trades the iGPU of the N100 for more physical cores (for vCPUS), QAT acceleration, 4x 10GbE, and more PCIe/ SATA I/O. Adding quad SFP+ to the N100 would mean you are not putting many drives on there
@DonaldMolter
@DonaldMolter Час назад
Oh man I kinda want one of these to replace my Edgerouter 4 box. It's been on my list to find a solid (while energy and cost) efficient platform to replace it with to get into Opnsense but haven't found anything yet. This may be the box I pickup to replace my aging hardware.
@LockonKubi
@LockonKubi 4 дня назад
I wonder if you could cram all that hardware into a 2u but half width device. That'd make a good fanned version for people who don't have a rack (easier to fit on a bookshelf or whatever) or put in a coupler to still mount two of them in a full width 2u space. Also maybe a bigger (and user replaceable) fan.
@ryanpek
@ryanpek 5 дней назад
Why is there no unit with proper back to front cooling. Who mounts a switch that the fan blows down in a rack ? Switches get mounted in the back of the rack so you can run cables. So air needs to flow front to back.
@rookie28604
@rookie28604 5 дней назад
The fan facing down in a rack unit is a bit odd and may cause problems in a full rack.
@hquest
@hquest 4 дня назад
For comparison, the Cisco Firepower FPR-1010 device runs on a 4 core Atom C3558 with 8Gb DDR4, 200Gb SATA SSD, and 8+1 1Gbps NICs (4x X553, 1x I211), so this device is more than capable to be a robust, enterprise grade firewall. Not for a datacenter, though, but for remote offices it can withstand a lot of abuse.
@AndreasS1891
@AndreasS1891 5 дней назад
Leider gibt nach wie vor keine einfache Möglichkeit nach DE (Germany) zu bestellen. Mit Umwege dann etwa 300+150 = 450$ für den Barbone :( / aber selbst über den Umweg klappt es momentan nicht nach De zu bestellen. Wäre Klasse wenn der Hersteller irgendwann auch mal in die EU / DE liefern würde.
@holeinthesest
@holeinthesest 5 дней назад
You should test if you can run these off of one of those POE ethernet splitters
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
It would need to be a PoE++ one
@dzmitryulasau878
@dzmitryulasau878 5 дней назад
NCA-1515A :) Brand new on eBay with 16GB ecc ram, sata ssd, WiFi, lte and fully functioning IPMI
@OS2tuxbird
@OS2tuxbird 5 дней назад
I prefer the CPU be an AMD Zen 3 😃 and RJ-45 that are multi-gigabyte (10, 5, 2.5, 1, 0.1 and 0.01Ghz). I suppose I have a long wait if ever 😆 Those "Mean Well" power supplies from Taiwan are very well designed and built (along with comprehensive documentation online). I've seen them used in mission critical VSAT satellite modems.
@conraadvandenberg
@conraadvandenberg 5 дней назад
What is the benchmark/CPU info program that you are using?
@Stev.3n
@Stev.3n 5 дней назад
Looks to be some type of custom Powershell script to pull those metrics and display it graphically. Can't find much more info about it unfortunately because it looks very handy.
@DavidNiedbala
@DavidNiedbala 3 дня назад
I have an extra 4bay USB C qnap and was wondering if I could use the usb c to add storage?
@YKSGuy
@YKSGuy 5 дней назад
Fan is in the wrong spot for a rack mount device.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
Agreed, the better option would be to make a larger heatpipe heatsink then blow air through the chassis. But that is a costly custom part for a sub $300 unit.
@YKSGuy
@YKSGuy 5 дней назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I would argue it defeats the point of asking for a rack design if you can't actually place something above or below it.. Same goes for that "Passive" one you reviewed a while back.
@phenry5083
@phenry5083 4 дня назад
Do the NICs support multi queue?
@OVERKILL_PINBALL
@OVERKILL_PINBALL 5 дней назад
Can this ATOM CPU drive storage performance enough to saturate a 10Gbps link? To me it doesn't seem like it would be a viable choice for fast storage. I could be wrong but I am guessing the performance would be similar to the performance you might expect from an external USB 3.0 drive and no where near capable of 10Gbps.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
Why? This is the same CPU in the TrueNAS Mini XL+
@OVERKILL_PINBALL
@OVERKILL_PINBALL 5 дней назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo This CPU can saturate a 10Gbps link? I didn't think an Atom could.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
@@OVERKILL_PINBALL Why would it not be able to? The Netgate 8200 Max uses the same Atom SoC and can forward over 18Gbps of traffic.
@HelloHelloXD
@HelloHelloXD 5 дней назад
16:51 are there any rack mountable versions of these?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
There is a 4-bay rackmount that QNAP has as well.
@HelloHelloXD
@HelloHelloXD 5 дней назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo great, thanks!
@ethanwaldo1480
@ethanwaldo1480 День назад
Just wish it had a PCIe x16 3.0 or 4.0 slot for 100Gbe, then it'd be perfect for a firewall.
@ProjectUnknowEddi
@ProjectUnknowEddi 5 дней назад
I mean... I still use a (not checkpoint anymore :P ) 1u with a G1820 as ASN router. Especially as I can't effort more then 1x 1G ports of carriers in the datacenter. But if they would offer me a free/same price 10g port uplink/IPX, that's a mashine that I would think about ^^
@JFlogerzi
@JFlogerzi 5 дней назад
Plex Transcoding would be my only concern. And the lack of cheap network rack depth SATA expansion bays.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
Plex you would do on another machine, not this one.
@JFlogerzi
@JFlogerzi 5 дней назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo boo plus I am to invested in unifi ATM 😉
@B-a_s-H
@B-a_s-H 4 часа назад
Which SFP+ 10GB (copper) modules are compatible with this? And how is the power consumption with 4 of those installed?
@MichaelDeBlasis1369
@MichaelDeBlasis1369 День назад
Noice!!
@syjeklye
@syjeklye 3 дня назад
What is that powershell system monitor @13:35 ?
@tivonh7075
@tivonh7075 5 дней назад
Anyone know a distributor in europe I can buy this from?
@w3isserwolf
@w3isserwolf 5 дней назад
What Programm is used for the Test in the background 15:16 ?
@Stev.3n
@Stev.3n 5 дней назад
Looks to be some type of custom Powershell script to pull those metrics and display it graphically. Can't find much more info about it unfortunately because it looks very handy
@TheChadXperience909
@TheChadXperience909 5 дней назад
The reason for the weak power supply is because there's no active cooling on the PSU. That means it's probably not such a good idea to install this somewhere that gets very warm... Like, inside a server rack. Considering that would also block the CPU fan, I REALLY wouldn't want to risk that. Especially, with all those 10gbps SFP+ cages. Plus, Patrick Attesteach suggests adding internal SATA SSDs? Ummm... I guess, he likes to live dangerously? I mean, in the studio, sure. But, a hot server rack inside a smart closet? Have fun with those waranty claims! Oh, who am I kidding? I've never heard of this company, and who knows if they'll honor their waranty.
@SpoonHurler
@SpoonHurler 5 дней назад
Would using an SFF8087 to esata based 1u enclosure be viable?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
Both are SATA so it should work, but I cannot recall seeing that cable unless you are thinking of just a SFF-8087 to 7-pin SATA breakout and then using a single lane?
@SpoonHurler
@SpoonHurler 5 дней назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo my crazy thought was using those normally internal sff to 4x sata to basically create 4 pools of 1u external drives for cold, write once type stuff maybe. Probably just would need an esata to sata connector. Edit: This is a terrible idea. These enclosures are more expensive than 1u server chassis with 4 bays.
@mofoq
@mofoq 2 дня назад
wait, where's the link to the potential intel driver "errata?" 🤔
@jacksquat55
@jacksquat55 2 дня назад
Anyone else notice that the power connector should have been located on the back panel, not the front?
@SeaJay_Oceans
@SeaJay_Oceans 5 дней назад
Sweet.... but never heard of them ...
@ziozzot
@ziozzot 3 дня назад
So a connection to a switch doesn't work with proxmox =?
@ZoeyR86
@ZoeyR86 5 дней назад
I want a 2 or 3u with 1 pcie slot for a half height gpu and 5bays for plex / jelly
@BrianThomas
@BrianThomas 5 дней назад
What I'd like to see is a drive cage inside the box to support the 1 or 2 3.5inch drivers, so why make the user makeshift a way to make it fit? Give us a inexpensive solution that works nicely.
@gutschke
@gutschke 5 дней назад
The fan-less model has mounting points for 2½" drives. But the on-board voltage regulators might be too limited, and the lack of active cooling is a problem when you start sticking additional power-hungry devices into this computer.
@magneticshrimp7429
@magneticshrimp7429 5 дней назад
X553 has given me quite a bit of grief, but mostly only when linking to Mellanox/Nvidia based cards and switches (fiber and DAC). The X553 ports will lock up so hard even a reboot and even a poweroff/poweron through the BMC wont fix it, had to physically yank the power a few times to get the port back up.
@magneticshrimp7429
@magneticshrimp7429 5 дней назад
That is, AFTER moving it to a port it usually works with and it will stay borked. Gotta yank the power to get it back working with known compatible link partners.
@m6kzt
@m6kzt 4 дня назад
The ixgbe driver is broken on all Linux 6 kernels for the X533, sadly Patrick thinks it's just a few switches.. it's not, so there's gonna be a lot of disappointed and unhappy people buying these and stuff like Proxmox 8 with version 6 kernel won't bring these 10 gig ports UP, don't believe me go look at the proxmox forums or the kernel mailing list!
@1990Cookie
@1990Cookie 5 дней назад
Great, another one we cant ship to germany...
@matthiaslange392
@matthiaslange392 5 дней назад
why not? Years ago i bought two quotom fanless units directly from quotom, paid with paypal. no problems.
@Phil-D83
@Phil-D83 5 дней назад
Order it without the psu.
@1990Cookie
@1990Cookie 5 дней назад
@@matthiaslange392 If I go to AliExpress or Amazon, athey say they cant ship to my country..
@1990Cookie
@1990Cookie 5 дней назад
@@Phil-D83 @matthiaslange392 If I go to AliExpress or Amazon, athey say they cant ship to my country..
@g.s.3389
@g.s.3389 5 дней назад
can I put sfp connector in the sfp(+) ?
@deadlymarsupial1236
@deadlymarsupial1236 3 дня назад
Yes, you can put an SFP module in an SFP+ port, which is backwards compatible. Be careful with some brand equipment that refuse to work with other brand modules.
@davemorales1064
@davemorales1064 3 дня назад
U can use sata drives on sas backplane but not vs
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 дня назад
Not only the backplane matters, but also the controller
@casperghst42
@casperghst42 5 дней назад
Why on earth did they decide to put the power button on the back - it is an rack mounted box. And everyone find that coll..😅
@jwo7777777
@jwo7777777 5 дней назад
I have the small, fanless version. It chokes hard on paperlessngx.
@bartgrefte
@bartgrefte 5 дней назад
First of, whats running in powershell during the powerconsumption/noise bit? ..... wait, that whole system with 4 10G ports costs less than an Intel 4 port x710-DA4?
@biiiiiij
@biiiiiij 4 дня назад
would like to know as well
@waspoza
@waspoza 5 дней назад
What's the idle power consumption?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 дней назад
18-21W depending on the config
@waspoza
@waspoza 5 дней назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo thanks!
@willidriver
@willidriver 5 дней назад
I love this product. But has anybody go a clue, why it’s impossible to ship to Germany?
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